Does /lit/ have any comic series or graphic novels that they approve of?Please don't make me go to /co/, and be suffered to shift through a bunch of capeshit
Watchmen (it's psychological and metaphysical capeshit so it's good)
Maus
Persepolis
Akira
Uzumaki (Junji Ito is a safe bet in general)
Tintin (also Asterix if you want more euro-comic fun)
Calvin & Hobbes
From Hell
Lone Wolf & Cub
Ghost World
Anything by Robert Crumb, as long as you're open to lewd and offensive satire (like real offensive, not just haha le anti-PC kid)
There's probably more I'm forgetting, there's a lot of great graphic novels worth your time, but it's late here and my mind is blank. Hope these ones will do for now.
>>7700302
Have fun, anon.
>>7700329
>it's psychological and metaphysica
this is what manchildren who read comics tell themselves
>>7700353
back to /reddit/ you go
Amory Wars is nice if you like space operas
>>7700353
But I actually read good literature. Looks like you need to go to your safeplace, tumblr, you faggot.
>>7700329
>Anything by Robert Crumb, as long as you're open to lewd and offensive satire (like real offensive, not just haha le anti-PC kid)
Did his depiction of niggers trigger you?
>>7700367
>But I actually read good literature.
Prove it right now. What's the last book you read and what did you think of it?
You have 120 seconds
>Hey guys everyone on my board is an insufferable autistic kid so I should be allowed to talk about it on your board okay
>>7700367
Times up. You don't read good literature, just like I thought. Don't post here again.
Asterios Polyp
>>7700380
I'm watching cinema, faggot.
dilbert
>>7700302
you're going to get lists of ok fiction (on the same level as fight club or american psycho) because you're asking lit and comic books are more about the art.
Here are some actually great comics:
Lose by Michael Deforge
Lint by Chris Ware
Eightball by Daniel Clowes
Arséne Schrauwen by Olivier Schrauwen
1-800-MICE by Matthew Thurber (heavy Pynchon influences on the story in this one)
Inner City Romance by Guy Colwell
Recidivist by Zak Sally
Big Questions by Anders Nilsen
Asterios Polyp by David Mazzuchelli
a lot more but these spring to mind
>>7700391
While posting on 4chan? While defending capeshit and picture books for little kids?
Wow, you're a bigger a pleb than I thought.
>>7700302
that 'graphic novel' is really, really bad. they're almost universally bad by the way. 'graphic novelists' are sad cunts who can't be authors and can't be proper cartoonists so they're a weird bastardization of each
>>7700406
I'm not defending comics. I responded to the wrong person whilst making fun of them for being manchildren.
>>7700302
Do you like pic rel, OP? I loved it.
>>7700302
BLAST By manu larcenet
unastoria by gipi
quaderni giapponesi by igort
stray bullets by david lapham
un drago a forma di nuvola by Ettore Scola (yes, the director)
-the hive by charles burns
-killing and dying by adrian tomine
-the collector by sergio toppi
>>7700414
how many have you read anon? seems like you have absolutely no knowledge of the form t b p h
>>7700371
>>7700380
>>7700353
> he hasn't actually read Watchmen
2/10
>>7700414
>that 'movie' is really, really bad. they're almost universally bad by the way. 'film directors' are sad cunts who can't be photographers and can't be proper theatre directors so they're a weird bastardization of each
>>7700329
there are various graphic novels which are great but not sure if lit is going to approve them,
here is a list of great manga since american comics are usually pretty shit.
>aku no hana
>homunculus
>20th century boy
>monster
>sanctuary
>tsumi no batsu; a falsified romance
>onani master kurosawa(synopsis is an joke but it progressively gets darker and better)
>blame(best example of how graphic novels should be done)
>dragon head(great psychological horror)
>berserk(dark fantasy at its best)
What are some good short manga series? I don't want to buy/read 40 issues
Watchmen looks awful, I really doubt it's any good, from what I've read.
>>7700542
I'm not the most knowledgeable but i can rec you nishikoa Kyoudai, Furuya Usamaru and some work from Inio Asano
>>7700550
kill yourself pleb
>>7700542
usually manga is a lot faster to read then your typical american comic ;giving you a example it takes me 1 hour to read 75 pages of american comic,while i can read 400 pages in 1 hour.so don't be intimated by the number of issues a manga has.
short ones that i can recommend are:
>dragon head
>uzumaki
>gyo
>akira
>Watashitachi no Shiawase na Jikan(pretty sad manga)
>aku no hana
>>7700571
works from inio asano are pretty bad,there is barely a plot in most of his manga
>>7700426
stray bullets is GOAT
>>7700571
It's tacky bullshit.
Grant Morrison is fantastic.
>>7700610
You've taken the scene out of context, anon, but nobody should complain if Watchmen doesn't interest you. To each their own, my man.
If you like hunter s Thompson, you'll love Transmetropolitan. Perfect example of an antihero.
>>7700615
Good choice.
>>7700302
The Sculptor
>>7700426
>-the collector by sergio toppi
Did you recommend me Sharaz-de several weeks ago? If you have, thank you, I loved it. Better than Collector, imo
>>7700675
As a general rule of thumb, to see if a comic or graphic novel is any good, check to see if it was written by an Brit. That's Warren Ellis, Garth Ennis, Grant Morrison, Alan Moore. If it's illustrated by Dave McKean, that's good too.
Unless it's written by someone French, Spanish or South American in which case it's probably brilliant but you're not going to be able to appreciate it because you're a pleb who reads comics.Read Uncle Sam by Darnall and Ruins by Ellis.
>>7700610
Taking the scene out of context.
But also a poor scene to make your point, because you can clearly see Ozymandias (the guy kicking the shit out of the other guy) is forcing that dude to face god.
One of us here doesn't know how to read comics, and it's not me
>>7700712
I just said it is a tacky comic. Can you read words also?
>>7700610
The ink is, I agree, ugly indeed (although Gibbons consciously chose that style), but the compositions, the details and colour are spectacular. The pages you posted are also a great example of Moore's and Gibbon's care and beautiful autism - that whole chapter is structured symmetrically and you posted its middle. Compare the left and right pages and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Give it a shot anon. It's a comic, it can't take you more than two days to read.
>>7700749
I have read it and found it tacky. I posted the page because that's what it looks like.
>>7700571
>le pleb calling redditeer
please don't sling that word around when talking about children's picture books, faggot
>zero posts of Ed the Happy Clown
plebs, the lot of ye
>>7700302
Pic related is in my queue, but toward the back. Is it worth moving up?
>>7700706
Sharaz-de is his best work, yeah.
Probably it was me, i'm here shilling european comics too often i think
Anyone read 'Zero' by Ales Kot? I had someone recommend that to me recently and I'm on the verge of picking up an issue or two.
>>7700302
FUCKING READ THIS POST
>A Contract With God by Will Eisner
>From Hell/Watchmen by Alan Moore
>Six Novels in Woodcuts by Lynd Ward
>R. Crumb's Kafka
>Uzumaki by Junji Ito
>Asterios Polyp by David Mazzucchelli
>Adaptation of the King in yellow and H.P. Lovecraft's stories (cant remember artist name)
Here by Richard McGuire
>>7700825
it's good
>>7700918
its fun
>>7700935
> uzumaki by junji ito
> junji ito
He's a quality horror writer, but so quality it made me have nightmares senpai
>>7700994
Quality, or "Quality"? he has both.
>>7700907
Any good site for download translated european comics?
>>7701026
eh, im from italy bro i dont know i read in their original language
fun home and maus are my favourites
I thought 100 Bullets, Y the Last Man, and the first couple arcs of Fables were pretty solid.
Frankly it depends on what you're looking for, there are a lot of different varieties of comics (Tintin isn't anything like We3, etc.)
I don't know any fiction writer who has managed to do what Morrison did in Invisibles or Moore did in From Hell.
True sometimes the themes are tacky and preachy, but what I mean is this sheer exploration of space and time that comic books allow a writer simply cannot be repeated in only written form.
Frank, Jim Woodring
Fun home, Alison Bechdel
Binky Brown meets the holy virgin mary, justin green
H G Oesterheld works (Mort cinder and El eternauta among others)
Many others mentioned in other posts
>>7700550
It's pretty good, as a comic. However it has plenty of fans that dismiss the more important parts of the comic, looking at ponts that are weaker, but irrelevant.
it's like shakespeare, in that it has many levels of talking to its audiences, from a blood and guts pont of view, to a formal technique one.
>>7700954
Thanks for the suggestion. The original shorter version that I found online is amazing.
http://wayback.archive.org/web/20100814190317/http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~jbass/courses/402/402_mcguire_here.htm
>>7701026
Bump
>>7701295
>I don't know any fiction writer who has managed to do what Morrison did in Invisibles or Moore did in From Hell.
Why is /lit/ filled with such plebs
Only good comic I've ever read was Don Rosa's duck stories
>>7701295
Jesus Christ it's like reading pleb 101
>>7701609
>>7701657
Please give me an example because it's literally impossible.
You cannot have an image be synchronous with text in a book. Books are a linear exploration of time by necessity. You cannot have two things happening at the same time.
Comic books show an exploration of space and time in a synchronous moment.
I mentioned the two works because they show this pretty well. The background is it's own narrative in both works.
>>7701708
Fuck off to your shitbox of a Marvel & DC shill board
>>7701718
example no.1 again literally impossible to be repeated in text only form. Since it's a page that combines textual narrative and exploration of text as as space.
East of West is a beautiful and intriguing comic. It's setting up a lot of lore in a really interesting future/fantasy setting but where I am up to it has not yet come together. A good one to watch.
>>7701767
hackman is fucking terrible as are most marvel dc capefaggot retard writers.
only the artist matters and in that dcmarvel superhero shit is pathetic compared to Möbius etc
>>7701850
East of West is Image.
>>7700302
Black Hole is in my top 10
For entry level artsy stuff I'd recommend
>The Nao of Brown
>Death Ray
>Jimmy Corrigan, the Smartest Boy on Earth
Ghost World game me feelsies :(
>>7701968
>gist werl gay me feelsies
fuck off
>>7702129
feels are universal!!!! i'm not alone in this
>>7701756
Cringe too
>>7702243
this is all the invalidation it needed.
.
Scott Pilgrim is still great
>>7700302
I love Sonichu. Even the part where he destroyed the 4Chan building and killed a bunch of random people.
>>7702129
>worst girl
i cut you faggot
>>7700395
this
Avoid graphical novels
Pic very much related
Read comics
From authors who can draw
Start with Paul Pope
>>7701295
jesus fucking christ
>>7700329
Good liest but I don't like Watchmen very much in fact I don't like most of Moore's work apart from Swamp Thing and From Hell.
If you haven't already, read Shigurui.
>>7702554
shut up, gay
>>7702610
>muh graphix novel
fucking inferiority complex is what it is
you think leo should get an oscar for sandman thing?
>>7702635
this is trying so hard to be edgy.
he uses words for effect, but the effect is weak
>>7701942
Fyucjubg retardm, Hackman 'writes it', god comics are condescended shit in paper form,
Joe Sacco does great investigative journalism. Footnotes in Gaza is not only a powerful read but an important historical document now.
literally: /lit/, the comic
1-800-MICE by Matthew Thurber
Travel by Yuichi Yokoyama
Powr Mastrs by C.F.
Asterios Polyp by David Mazzucchelli
Prison Pit by Johnny Ryan
Wonton Soup by James Stokoe
Peepo Choo by Felipe Smith
>>7700302
Fables is great
Transmetropolitan (and most of Warren Ellis' works) is brilliant
Anything by Manara if you feel kinky
Something by Hugo Pratt
Judge Dredd comics have their moments too.
>>7700426
>Manu Larcenet
Bloody YES
Also Joan Sfar, if you can stand his drawing style he is a great story-teller.
I like a boy and his dog. I don't know that it's top tier though.
>>7701708
here, text synchronous with image
>>7703430
Imho larcenet is on a completly other level.
i cant stand sfar
>>7700302
Lint by Chris Ware
Compact but uniquely composed and very economical in the sense that a lot of information is presented in few frames
It's real as fuck and borderline brilliant
Has anyone here read La Vie d'Adele?
The movie is excellent, but I wonder if the graphic novel is worth picking up.
