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Anyone have any poems or prose or quotes that helped pull them out of depression?
This probably gets asked a lot here, but if anyone could help out, I'd really appreciate it.
Asking for a friend.
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors...
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zorba might help.
my pill's dose has been increased today though, so don't mind me.
http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/let-it-enfold-you/
I think I figured it out. I was just taking a shit, thinking about people who treat YA literature as if it's on par with actual literature and how there is no argument against "It's just your opinion." Of course you could talk about the superior prose, story and skill etc but that doesn't really mean much. The thing is, a book like Harry Potter has no substance or soul. I mean, when Nabokov wrote Lolita, or Kafka wrote The Trial or any other example, they saw something they just had to capture. That's the mark of a truly great artist, they saw something...
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Cute cat.
My "opus magnus" or whatever they call it feels like a thing I need to capture, so thanks for making me realise how I felt about it. Ofc I already loved it, but now I know why.
>>7708453
>The thing is, a book like Harry Potter has no substance or soul. I mean, when Nabokov wrote Lolita, or Kafka wrote The Trial or any other example, they saw something they just had to capture. That's the mark of a truly great artist, they saw something in the world
>le artist must communicate something about the society meme
>>7708453
Not really, it just has to be good with a considerable degree of depth. Of all of the YA series lit could use for this type of comparison Harry Potter makes the least sense. As the series goes on its depth increases greatly, it somehow sidesteps PC bullshit, and JK Rowling studied the classics and makes ample reference to them throughout.
No they're not patrician(they're constrained by having to be readable by 12-17 year olds), but they're about as patrician as YA can possibly go.
A few times I've been around that track, so it's not just gonna happen like that 'cause I ain't no
>>7708450
took me a while to get it but I laughed all the same.
Did this pun deserve its own thread tho
we've been over this, its not pronounced like that, nerd (not that i have any clue how u actually pronounce the fucking shit, but pronouncing pleb authors' names isn't something i do often so no worries on my part)
I ain't no who-le-bay?
What?
https://bitchmedia.org/post/a-great-artist-kills-his-wife—now-its-just-a-quirky-footnote-in-his-history
What does /lit/ think of this?
>>7708432
Pretty sure he shout his wife playing william tell
>>7708432
>Leela Ginelle is a journalist, playwright and transgender woman living in Portland, OR.
Someone should play William Tell with her.
>>7708462
>her
Is poetry translatable?
Sometimes, depends on the poem
>>7708428
Some. What Pound describes as melopoiea is very difficult to translate, and is often lost in translation.
Are translations poetic?
Subvocalisation thread
"Subvocalization (also known as auditory reassurance) is a very common habit among readers. It involves saying words in your head while reading and it's one of the main reasons why people read slowly and have trouble improving their reading speed." - http://www.irisreading.com/speed-reading-tips-5-ways-to-minimize-subvocalization/
Do you subvocalise, /lit/?
I don't understand how I can read and not hear the words in my head - I thought that was called reading. Plus with better lit I need to slow down to make...
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working in urban education one thing i noticed is muslim women from south asian always subvocolaize so much they are basically vocalizing, they whisper while they read or at least mouth the words...why? because in awful islamic schools they make u read the koran all the fucking time and the only way to prove you're reading it and not staring at the pages is is to mouth the words as u go, even black guys don't suck at reading that much, reading is to get information, not perform a duty
>>7708422
>Here’s an example of what I mean. Think about when you are driving. When you see a stop sign, do you actually vocalize the word “STOP” in your head? You may have done so right now while reading the words in the sentence, but when you see a stop sign while driving you’re unlikely to say the word. You see it and recognize that it’s a stop sign automatically.
>tfw you hear the word STOP in your head
>>7708435
i reverse subvocalize: when i talk or listen to talking i can't help but imagine the text of it
Hey /lit/, what is the best translation of this book? Currently have the Ormsby translation and wanted to know if it's the best option before I start reading.
>>7708383
I'm actually a big fan of that Grossman translation, anon. I enjoyed it a great deal more than the Jarvis translation, at any rate, which was how I first read it.
Find samples of each translation and pick the one that you like best.
Is the Signet Classics edition of this good?
Looking for examples of great lit of the 60s 70s and 80s on or in societies that have just thrown off colonial oppressionor "oppression"or were granted autonomy.
Traumatic stories from Africa and SE Asia a plus.
>>7708365
when you say "traumatic stories", do you mean you want books about countries that were released from colonial rule and were worse for it?
>>7708366
Yes but I wouldnt mind stuff about some rich son of a bitch after the Hong Kong handover either. I just enjoy stuff about 20th century africa.
>>7708365
That is a great fucking cover
critique my writing
The smell of rotting drywall and mildew circulates throughout my lungs. The cold air makes me shudder as i pull up the blanket i've had since I was as young as four. my blanket is warm but far too small to cover both my feet and my torso. Crash. Dads home, I try my best to not make a sound. The air is still. The smell booze and cheap cigars fill my nose. The door creeks and a series of mumbles follow. He believes i'm asleep, I wish i was asleep. I drift, and I dream, but i never sleep. I can never get my escape.
>>7708310
Not in critique thread/10
But also 4/10 writing
>>7708310
In all seriousness, it's YA-tier. It has no complexity or depth whatsoever.
Well, I'm not really sure what I just read. The story itself was really touching, and some of the imagery was striking, but there was an awful lot of WTF thrown in there.
Anybody read it? Thoughts?
I haven´t read that book of him but thats just Boris Vian man! He in personal and also his book are just WTF! I mean he wrote his first big book just because of a bet he made!
Okay I´ve been reading alot of philosophical shit lately. To name some: Platon, Marc Aurel, Epiktet, Hegel etc.
But thats all very theoretical and quit boring after a bit. Now I am searching for some good, mindsmashing and philosophical novels. Are there some you can recommend??
A good philosophical work should not be sensational, maybe read Zarathustra or something.
A Short History of Decay by Emil Cioran
>>7708249
Great suggestion! But I have read Zarathustra -and I am not a real fan of Nietszche!
What should I read, besides Benedetto Croce and Marx, before facing the "Prison Notebooks" by gramsci?
Mises, Hayek.
>>7708309
lol this forreal OP. Don't pollute your mind.
>>7708228
machiavelli the prince
Questions that don't deserve their own thread.
Couldn't find one in the catalog so I'm starting.
Which is the better edition/translation (for Meditations-Marcus Aurelius) ?
1. The Emperor's Handbook - Aurelius
Translators: C Scott Hicks, David V Hicks
2. Meditations - Aurelius
Translator: Gregory hays
Which is better and should be preferred?
>>7708224
but you started a thread to ask them
>>7708238
damn. you got me you clever fox you.
In one hour I can only read 30 pages of a book like C&P (in English). Not a native English speaker. Easier ones I manage to hit 50.
How bad is that, and how much WPM reading do I average?
I'm sitting among old and young people in this café.
In front of me is a tray, with a cup of coffee, and two sugar cubes on its saucer.
Soon they will go down into the hot coffee and struggle not to get melted.
I pick them up with my thumb and index finger.
Right above the round walls of the cup I let them go, both of them, and they fall into the coffee.
There was a plop, and at the same time a drop of coffee leaps upwards from the cup.
It's as if it had been resting down there at the bottom, waiting for vengeance.
Vengeance, because the sugar cubes sank down to the bottom, taking his place.
So now the drop is menacingly high above the cup.
Suddenly it turns around and heads straight towards me and my white shirt.
There's no escape.
The drop hits me right on my stomach.
I look down and watch as it spreads to the size of a thumbnail.
I have completely forgotten about the sugar cubes, which are lying down there at the bottom, getting their lungs filled with black coffee.
They're dying only to give me pleasure.
On the table is an ashtray.
There are five cigarette butts in it.
Together they form a terrifying mass grave.
...an unnecessary mass grave.
So I stand up and walk away.
Most lives end all too soon.
That's just bad, I'm sorry.
>>7708247
What about it is bad?
This whole thing is terrible but especially this line:
"It's as if it had been resting down there at the bottom, waiting for vengeance.
Vengeance, because the sugar cubes sank down to the bottom, taking his place."
What are you trying to say with this?
>They're dying only to give me pleasure
They are sugar cubes. I think they'll be ok
Are there any good books on how societies become 'evil' and why they war each other?
:-)
protocols of the elders of zion?
>>7708188
maybe something like brave new world, 1984, animal farm, farenheit 451 -not really war but more like a conflict in a distopia!
