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From most patrician to least: Reading for:

themes > prose/form > plot > characters
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>>7784650
Wrong

Prose > plot = characters = themes

Though if you make such distinctions you are surely a pleb
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If by "patrician" you mean "desire to represent superiority", then yes, you're correct.

For people who actually understand art, it goes plot = character > themes > everything else.
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>>7784659
/thread

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I already know what the literary world thinks of Stephen King, and I mostly agree with Harold Bloom. But that's not the point, really, as I am trying to learn to write horror that people would like.

I thought it'd be best to start studying Stephen King's works to find out what he does that makes him sell by the gazillions. I read through wikipedia synopsis of his books and picked one that interested me - The Girl Who Liked Tom Gordon.

Pic related is the first two pages of the same. I read the first two chapters and it is all like one big useless...
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>>7784600
It's a big booku with characters being lengthily introduced and fleshed out and interacting, isn't it? Not a creepy short story which are usually better anyway unless all that fleshing out makes things more horrific.
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>>7784617
Where does your pic come from?
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>>7784635
tumblr

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Now that the dust has settled, what is /lit/'s consensus on BolaƱo?
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>implying the dust ever settles

newfriend pls go
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>>7784478
He's perfect
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>>7784481
>implying you are not made of dust and will continually rise and settle, that life is not a billowing series of circle, and that this thread isn't a beautifully desperate take on marking a fixed point on the continuum

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Hi /lit/, so a while back my friend recommended that I read some Murakami and following this my mother bought me Norwegian Wood for Christmas.
So far I'm about 200 pages in and in all fairness I'm not being blown away. I trust my friend's literary knowledge and taste as she's an intelligent and well read person but I'm not convinced here.
What does /lit/ think of Murakami in general and would you recommend any more of his stuff? Cheers.
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I wanted to make a thread like this too.

I see him getting shit on a lot on /lit/ but I'm nearly finished with WUBC and have really enjoyed it so far.

Is his other work just not as good?
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I read Wind Up Bird in 2012 and didn't care for it.
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>>7784429
Yeah, I'd been thinking about posting this for a while but i'm a bit of a lurking newfag so ya know.

I'll give it a go as I've heard pretty decent things and I don't want to just discard literature that is celebrated and important just because I disliked one text.

I'm just not convinced by it, the imagery seems incredibly secondary school level and Catcher/Gatsby wannabe if I'm honest. So far I'm sat here anticipating a colossal change in quality which I'm...
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Does this book get any fucking better /lit/?

Just started The Part About Fate and honestly it reads like a first draft.
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>>7784340
just curious, OP. before you get btfo by /lit/. what exactly were you expecting? you clearly had something in mind and it did not meet your expectations.
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bitch please; ya must be smokin' rocks! real shit for my people and it just don't stop
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>>7784377
Honestly I was expecting something epic in scope and style. I've so far gotten a bunch of intellectuals on Pynchon-esque quest for a German who, for reasons never properly explained, is in Mexico (maybe), and the bored ramblings of a neurotic professor who talks to the homophobic ghost of his father for... some fucking reason.

Does it start to tie together into something more than "Hey look how /lit/ I am!" or should I stop now?

Why this sudden attendance /r9k/ robots into /lit/?
What should we do to stop it?
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>>7784225
Currently reading this, it's hilarious.
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>>7784238
Fo shizzle. I think that when it comes to russian 19th centure literature, once you pass the "muh deep themes muh nihilism" phase you start diging on other authors like Chekhov, Gogol, or pic related, who turn out to be hella funny.
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On behalf of the /r9k/ manbabies who can not, I apologize for their autistic behavior and hope this will blow over.

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Convince me /lit/, why is this considered good? I read this a long time ago and I was very disappointed, but I assumed that was because I had very little knowledge on philosophy and on the Enlightenment.

I'm now giving it a second try, hoping I'm able to understand it this time, but so far I just don't get it. Letting aside the absurdly bad prose, the plot is confusing and unbearably boring. Apparently the main point of the book is to be an attack on Leibniz's idea of our being "the best of all possible worlds", however, no matter how wrong...
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>>7784142
didn't like it either. read lazarillo de tormes. infinitely more rewarding
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>I am assuming that there is more to this book than simply irony and snarkiness that is somewhat entertaining but ultimately doesn't lead anywhere

There isn't. It's not a philosophical treatise. If the humor flew over your head that's probably why you didn't enjoy it
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I thought it was really funny. Read an annotated version

What are you currently reading, /lit/?
What are your current thoughts?

>Pic related
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Dead Souls. It's good.
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it's great can't wait to continue
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The Idiot. It's good.

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What programs do you guys use as a free alternative to Word for writing? My 365 days are up and I have been locked out of mine. Thanks in advance guys
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We pirate Word.
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>>7784028
Well usually I pirate most things, but I just couldn't seem to get Word to work pirated at all
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>>7784031
Grab an older version like 2010.

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Once a small tomato
be tomato grow up and big tomato
tomato bully at school :(
tomato show bully be strong
happy tomato

sorry i no good english
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Jolly nice!
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then tomato meet cocumber

Cocumber say "tomat, you are fruit of gay"

then tomato say "no, I cant decide if fruit or vegetable"

Cocumber say "vegetable? You aren't the dead"

Tomato say "until I saw your mom"

Then cocumber became pickel
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>>7784169
oh snap

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post funny books and books about writing comedy
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Poking a dead frog and Here's the kicker by Mike Sacks.
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semen demon?
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Catch-22 will always be the funniest book

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Who /Niezsche/ here? Gentle reminder that this guy BTFO'd Christcuckery, inspired the religion of Thelema, was the main inspiration of Evola and also the root of all postmodern philosophy, including feminist theory.

He inspired both Anarchists like Emma Goldman and Fascists like Benito Mussolini, reactionaries like Evola and progressives like Foucalt. He was a protean figure without comparison in history.
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Post your favorite passage then.
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>no eternal return demon gf
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>>7783855

Didn't he get cucked?

How can I better understand poetry?

I'd like to read some works like 'Paradise Lost', but I feel that I'd just be wasting my time as I won't understand them, and in turn, appreciate them.

The closest thing to resembling poetry that I've read, and isn't the King James Bible or Quran, is Shakespeare's 'Romeo and Juliet'.
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>>7783816

Read the following:

Ted Hughes; Dylan Thomas; Seamus Heaney; John Berryman.
For the Union Dead by Robert Lowell
The Truth the Dead Know by Anne Sexton
Farm Implements & Rutabagas in a Landscape by John Ashbery
Emperor of Ice-Cream & Snowman by Wallace Stevens
Ezra Pound & T.S. Eliot
Hart Crane
This Be the Verse by Philip Larkin
The Waking by Theodore Roethke
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>>7783827
Thanks anon. Are these all fairly simple/easy to understand poems?

At what level would you say 'Paradise Lost' is at? How long would it take me to reach that level?
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You can just read PL desu. It's Heroic verse, aka it does not ryhme, it just sounds good.
The punctuation is good enough if you can't understand a part read it out loud and you will understand.

It's also a great read. Go read it now.

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>Infinite Jest in on loan
>All Pynchon is on loan too
How Patrish is your library /lit/
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DFW and Pynchon is pleb lit, son.
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Nobody reads at my library as far as I know, so its alright cause Im buddy with the librarians and ask them to buy me stuff and they usually do if its academic enough
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>>7783713
>patrish

youre not patrician kid. not only are you a trendy fag but like the other guy said dfw and pynchon are not patrician.

come back when you have some taste and finish your freshman year.

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Anyone have a job where they can read or listen to audiobooks at work?
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yep. i'm a cashier and i get most of my reading done during downtime.
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>>7783688
what kind of store has that few customers?
do you work the night shift?
does management care that you read or do they even know?
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>>7783737
it's a local grocery store, pretty small place. i work afternoons through night. usually have a pretty steady flow of customers until about 4pm, afterwards they arrive sparingly, giving me a few hours of reading time. my bosses are great people and don't like to see their employees doing any more work than is necessary, so they have no problem with what i do. they understand that night shifts have a lot of downtime and don't care how i pass it as long as i'm not ignoring customers.

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