What (if any) musicians could be considered poets?
>>7808947
Leonard Cohen was a poet before he picked up a guitar. Some decent stuff I suppose.
fuck
>"Woman has hitherto been treated by men like birds, which, losing their way, have come down among them from an elevation: as something delicate, fragile, wild, strange, sweet, and animating—but as something also which must be cooped up to prevent it flying away."
Am I completely misinterpreting what he wrote, or did Nietzsche actually say something nice about women?
Nietzsche liked women.
>>7808882
'the perfect woman is a higher type of human than the perfect man, and also something much more rare'.
>>7808900
The nonexistent is extremely rare tbqh
ITT: Tropes you're tired of in fiction that need to die
>Old knowledge is always more powerful or superior to modern knowledge
Every fucking fiction series I've ever read has had this. Even sci-fi. Somehow, characters always have to go searching after some forgotten knowledge or item that was more powerful than anything they have in the present day. That's not how technology works in real life at all. Fiction seems to love the idea that technology is declining rather than increasing, even though that's never happened...
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>>7808872
I'm assuming you're talking about like popular fiction? "The Chosen One" has been a crutch for bad-writers who don't know how to explain why the fate of the universe is in the hands of some kids/teens for too long now.
>>7808872
Sounds like genre fiction problems to be honest.
you should read pride and prejudice and be amazed, op
Who are the best five living authors around now in your opinions?
McCarthy, Pinecone and Gass
They will all probably die pretty soon
Salman Rushdie, Will Self, Kazuo Ishiguro
>>7808864
WILL SELF HAHAHAHAHA
I just started reading this, why is every character's dialogue so fucking stilted?
Nobody in this book talks like a human being, and they all talk the same way. Even the narration is stilted.
>>7808762
Every writer has strengths and weaknesses. DeLillo's terrible at naturalistic or noticeably varied dialogue.
>>7808766
It's fucking awful though, why do people like this?
>>7808779
I can't speak for everyone, but I found the idea of it highly amusing. The dialogue was a flaw, but I didn't care enough to be bothered by it.
If this kind of stuff really irks you, DeLillo's not for you.
>"The woman indulges in literature just as she indulges in a small sin: as an experiment, in passing, looking around to see if anybody notices it — and to make sure that somebody does."
Did Nietzsche predict female booktubers?
why the fuck is this board obsessed with gender so much? it's worse than /pol/ and jews
goddamn fucking go back to /r9k/ if you just want to complain about women. just because you post a pic of an writer doesn't make your permavirgin complaining lit related you goddamn manchild
>>7808670
based as fuck
>>7808670
yes, women do things for attention, get over it jesus baka senpai
Are you guys familiar with anthroposophy? I've only just encountered it through Owen Barfield, who was influenced by Steiner (Barfield's Saving the Appearances was probably the most intriguing explanation of Christianity I've encountered)
Yeah let's talk about Anthropology and Stirner OP.
>>7808662
this is not stirner
Neanderthals were the ultimate spooks and I think Stirner understood that deep down, despite ascribing to a very Homo erectus worldview
Ray Monk uses Hilary Putnam's death to burn Roger Scruton
It's only funny if you know the context behind it though.
who is roger scrotum
why is a monk trying to use heat to inflict wounds upon him
how does this 'hilary' figure tie into all this ruination
Scruton wrote some pro-Tobacco pieces while working for a Cigarette company.
"HAHAHHAHAH HE IS WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING NOW!!1"
It's really wonderful to see hack intellectuals like Monk STILL grasping at straws like this.
I started reading Gravity's Rainbow and in it pynchon, at least so far, uses more flowery language than McCarthy in Blood Meridian. So why is it that a common complaint about McCarthy is that he uses people prose, but not about Pynchon? Not that I think either really do. Is it just because McCarthy describes pretty landscapes?
What the fuck is "people prose"
>>7808597
Purple prose
>people prose
>try to read philosophy
>be a native english speaker but essays are not that easy to understand, feels like i'm not understanding it completely
>reading pic related
>feels like reading philosophy
how do i become a better reader?
i can read popular modern fiction (e.g. game of thrones) and nonfiction (e.g. guns, germs and steel) very easily, but some books actually seem harder to read (e.g. philosophical works)
increase your vocab, duh.
you have to work your way up by reading gradually more difficult works, you can't just jump in the deep end and expect to understand every reference in ulysses if all you've read is game of thrones. borges is very esoteric and reference-heavy.
>>7808550
>>7808560
Sorry, OP, but these two jokers are wrong. You have no hope and should probably quit reading forever. In high school, I went straight from reading pleb genre fiction in junior year to Gravity's Rainbow/difficult meme books in senior year with no progression whatsoever. Reading difficult books is a skill that you're born with so you either have it or you don't. Stop trying to be something you're not and go read Rothfuss/Green or never read again.
>he posts on an English language forum but reads translated english-written novels
>his first language is portuguese
>>7808452
may as well just be
>not english
the most beautiful language
Por muito tempo achei que a ausĂŞncia Ă© falta.
E lastimava, ignorante, a falta.
Hoje nĂŁo a lastimo.
Não há falta na ausência.
A ausĂŞncia Ă© um estar em mim.
E sinto-a, branca, tão pegada, aconchegada nos meus braços,
que rio e danço e invento exclamações alegres,
porque a ausĂŞncia, essa ausĂŞncia assimilada,
ninguém a rouba mais de mim.
>>7808494
>beautiful language
>all those accents
Non.
When will we make the 2016 Top 100 Books list?
>>7808435
We shouldn't.
>a farewell to arms above to the lighthouse
>yfw the OP of that thread literally chose 92 through 100
we should have more than 3 votes next time to avoid this shit
Where the Thomas Wolfe folks at? I'm interested in Of Time And The River, is it fine to jump right into that or should I read Look Homeward, Angel first?
You should pack up and move to Asheville, best city on earth.
I used to post about him here a lot.
I recommend starting with Look Homeward, Angel since it's the first book in chronological order of the life of the character he depicts.
I also recommend his short story collection From Death To Morning. in 2011 I mentioned a story from that collection called "No Door" in a group discussion where the group comprised of some fifteen people plus the professor in charge. Shortly after mentioning it, when the class were talking amongst themselves, a cute half-Turkish girl (who looked white, but had a vaguely Mediterranean...
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She then said goodbye to them and returned to me and we walked to campus where her co-actors from the theatre department wore green tshirts with slogans across them in white print and handed out the same flyers I had received earlier. I said goodbye and made my way to the library to return some books. On leaving the library I turned left and walked along a rather narrow sidewalk on my way home. Looking up I saw the girl and two or three of her co-actors walking along the sidewalk towards me, presumably to hand out some flyers inside the library or somewhere else on campus nearby....
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So far it's basically lol yams which it what other people had warned in previous threads. There are also small bits of cucking thrown in here. This is for my World Literature class but I'm ready to write a summary based on just what I've read so far plus some secondary sources. The level of nostalgia he seems to have towards 3rd world barbarism makes me sick.
A shit ton of wrestling. Does it get any better or what is the deal?
it's just Heart of Darkness from the African perspective
>>7808650
Well I knew that since our teacher had us read large amounts of HoD. It's just so banal and trance like whereas I got a real sense of excitement from reading Conrad.
RIP
wow... too young.....
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