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Where does one begin with learning the Latin language? Does it help with already knowing a romance language in advance before pursuing Latin?
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Best way is to enroll in University. If not, Wheelock or McKneown. No, I started without the knowledge of any romance language, but it certainly helps with vocabulary. I might argue that it interferes with learning some of the grammar rules.
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>>8256664

Not to shit on the anon above, but avoid Wheelock like the plague. The way the grammar is introduced in a haphazard set of discrete lessons will ensure that you never get to 'read' Latin.

I'd recommend something like Moreland and Fleischer's 'Intensive' Latin. It requires considerably more effort than Wheelock, but it introduces you to more grammar and vocabulary per chapter - the downside as I say, is more effort and time has to be spent per unit, but the upside is you get...
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I recommend starting with "teach yourself Latin". It's available on archive

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http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/4954/the-art-of-fiction-no-12-william-faulkner

It is of course a long read, so this thread will very likely not get much attention but i still wonder: How does reading this making you feel? Especially those who also wish to be writers.
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>>8256618
>those who wish to be writers

It's inspiring, but at the same time there's a palpable sense of frenzy in how Faulkner describes the writer's life/process/etc. And I don't feel the same drive—the drive to steal from my grandmother, for example—to finish my works and to write in general.
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Thanks for posting.
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He just said everything I think about, but never say, when people ask me about my stuff. The '50s were certainly a more honest time.

I'm trying to write a book but I'm not sure how it sounds to other readers. Could you assist me in writing it? It is about a recurring dream I used to have, and a lot of the book is based on things that happened to me in my past and in the dream. It's about a room upstairs that is always locked and inside there is a window that leads to another world. Kind of like the Chronicles of Narnia. Here's the link to the google doc- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Mf0WtYXH9oDbcFQAQkaUU5EHkBrnmNNgNhVvvGPss5c/edit?usp=sharing
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>>8256608
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Mf0WtYXH9oDbcFQAQkaUU5EHkBrnmNNgNhVvvGPss5c/edit?usp=sharing

Oh boy, get ready for another wild /lit/publication.
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this sounds very gay.
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I was going to put it in Comic Sans font to mess with everyone, but I cringe too hard just seeing it.

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just finished reading this,

is it good?
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>>8256574
the greatest book i never read.
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>>8256574
it's great
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>>8256582
great, thanks, good to know. i dont want to look like a pseud in front of my literary friends

Are there any good books that give a good overview of literary theory and its constituent movements (e.g. marxist, postcolonial, modernist, postmodern, etc.)?
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>>8256550

pic related, best accompanied by http://oyc.yale.edu/english/engl-300
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Disgusting.
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>>8256564
Pleb.

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Hello /pol/fag here who needs a little of help with being open-minded.

I've always hated leftists because they ruined my country (Thanks Allende), but the thing is I don't really understand them. And I fear reading books of leftists will damage my coherency. But at the same time I feel I'm missing some knowledge? What would you do? Could you please recommend me some leftist book so I can understand their way of thinking? Normally I just read books like pic related because I think they make sense.
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I'd say Zizek, you might actually with a few things he's been saying lately. But as soon as you mention him here you'll get meme'd to death. So maybe Alain Badiou? Similar but less shitty jokes that will ruin your thread.
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"Leftist" could mean many things.

I assume Merkel would not represent what you would think of as a "rightist".
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>>8256599
I normally associate leftists to anarchism or egalitarianism. Right-wing for me is an authoritarian conservative.

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Hey /lit/, serious question?

How do you feel about writing and publishing online? I'm not talking about daily life blogs ("Hey here's my breakfast and then I had lunch and here's my dog and a funny vacation photo I took last year) or list articles (Top 10 reasons OP is a faggot) or whatever, I'm talking proper literature in fiction or nonfiction and delivering your ideas by putting them online? I'm also not suggesting you should not partner with an editor, etc., or that you should not publish a physical copy.

My question comes from...
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>>8256492
Roberto Pinchas is living proof that self-publishing was a mistake.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but the internet is a different beast altogether. When people get online, it's not to spend large chunks of time reading. It's to browse short articles and videos. The attention span once you're online is greatly diminished.

Publishing online might help spread your work, if that's what you're more concerned about, but I imagine monetary compensation would become minimal. Hardcopy still reigns supreme. People want to sit down in a confy chair with a book (or Kindle) and read for a while. Not sit at a desk in front of a computer, or at a tiny phone screen, or a tablet. It's why online schoolbooks will never truly take off. People hate reading on tablets like that, especially when it's a hassle to highlight and annotate them.

Plus, it seems like ideas on the internet come and go much faster. You read something quickly, and forget it the next day. Whereas a book you read for days, it sits around your house, and stays with you.
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>>8256492
Bump

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Why should I care about people's books and pretend to care about their aspects of the human condition when no one cares about the fact that I can't get girls because I'm a non Chad and they think I'm a bad person just for bringing this up?

Seems hypocritical to me.

Seem like they want all the attention and money for themselves.
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>>8256461
>Why should I care about people's books and pretend to care about their aspects of the human condition
because it's fun!
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Is it a bad sign when these frogposter /r9k/ routines that appear lately are among the more interesting threads on /lit/?
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Who is 'they' ?

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What's some good /lit/ on WW1? Anything works as long as it seems like an accurate portrayal; strictly historical, fictional, whatever. From logistics and strategy to brutality on the front lines.

I read Journey to the End of the Night years ago and remember loving the world war 1 part, the realism and the frankness makes it for me.
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All Quiet on the Western Front is incredible. For some reason, the chapter that really got to me was one where Remarque describes all the men fighting off rats in the trenches. Shit's fucked, yo.
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Storm of Steel, friend.
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>>8256478
>>8256484
And Guns of August

Pic related is pretty incomplete but its a good starting point.

The WW1 book i really want to read is Verdun, the Supreme Judgment or Court by Paul Ettighofer, but I dont think it was ever translated into English.

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Why is this book not more discussed?

9 volumes long, and you never see the narrator-protagonist older than 5 years old, except for a volume-long digression describing his travels through Europe.

Constantly breaking the fourth wall, as experimental a timing as can be, extremely funny, joyous, but full of philosophy and religion, while satirizing both, pretty much indescribable but an excellent read. One of the only books I finished, and immediately started re-reading. It almost makes me cry to think of Sterne writing this thing while he was dying of tuberculosis....
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>>8256425

It's long, hard, old, and not memey enough on /lit/ to bother.
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>>8256425
cause it's too patrician for /lit/
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>>8256432
So am I but it doesn't stop me

how can one be an atheist, materialist who accepts that human life is just a very complex human algorithm and that everything that humans do and every decision they make is just a combination of their biology and prior conditioning making life no more meaningful or sacred than a boulder falling down a hill or rain falling from the sky and still be happy and act like there life matters.
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>>8256423
life is meaningful to the living, because life creates meaning
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>>8256435
i don't understand, life is worth living because you live life
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>>8256423
It's entirely unacceptable. That's why most people invent fictions about reality for their own psychological survival. However there is also no reason to think that the pointlessness of everything is sad or on the other hand, freeing. It means nothing in the strictest sense of the word. That's why a good amount of people with bleak outlooks seek to organize or structure it in some way, because that is really the only thing you can do.

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The multitude of 'DRUGS LMAO' criticisms I've seen on this board has made me critically aware of including drug usage in my own fictional writings. Self-censorship is helpful to a certain extent, but I once almost completely purged any and all drug references in my writings to only find a depth lacking in what I wanted to say (a self-awareness also explored in depth in the film Adaptation, esp. concerning drugs). However, there is an authentic way to express the real phenomena of drug-use; how it shapes experiences, manifests friendships, makes you thankful for...
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Sometimes I get the feeling people disregard drug and drug references because they are straight edge "good kids" who have little to no drug experience. Keep in mind too that the rhetoric for drugs in this country is based on misleading information and stereotypes. Basically, they are lil nublets who find it easier to denounce drugs than to admit they have any experience with them.
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>>8256403
I'll read the document soon. But an above-average book which incorporates drugs is Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. A character constantly trying to escape particular feelings and realizations about the death of the American dream through use of drugs only to have the drugs metastasize those very same feelings.

I have no issue with drugs incorporated into literature. It's just very easily done terrible.
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I just try to incorporate drug usage as realistically as I can. I've had plenty of friends who've used drugs and I've used drugs and I don't think drugs are magical or "cool" or whatever, so I try and depict them the way you might depict people drinking together, or having coffee together.

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I'm currently wearing my Fear and Loathing shirt actually. I hate that college freshman think that book is just "DRUGS LMAO".

What piece of literature has elicited the greatest/most profound feels for you?

And how much of these feels can one ascribe to the quality of the work over the context in which the book is read (i.e. reading whilst undergoing relationship issues/breakup; coping with a recent death; parental divorce; a particularly bitter spate of 'tfw no gf' etc)
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>>8256398

Basically all of the "classic" or "canon" literature I've read has been provocative, difficult and (if I'm willing to wrestle with it) feelsy.

Naturally some seem more relevant than others, but I think it's a huge mistake to read literature as an augmentation or response to one's biography. It can be the other way around, and I think that's much of the "value" of literature.
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>>8256398
Im a robot without feelings so the cold precision of delillo and darkness of mccarthy are the only works that arouse me.
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>>8256411

So you're self-obsessed and unable to respond to anything you can't hold up as a mirror to yourself?

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>skinny lena dunham
>bridesmaids guy
>fat woman with hair dye
>myspace angle woman
>jew brothers real estate
>lesbian ellen wannabe

Are any of these authors worth reading? Has anyone been to BookCon before?
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Oh, hey Chicago bro.

Haven't been to BookCon, but the Newberry Library Book Fair is this month. I went last year and didn't get anything too great (I went on the last day) but it was still pretty cool and cheap as fuck.

Honestly I don't get what people get out of book conventions. I'd rather actually be reading or hang out in a library or something.
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it's not Bridesmaids guy, it's IT Crowd guy
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The Property Brothers are badass motherfuckers. The rest of the people on there look like SJW tards.

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Ever read some philosophican stuff, that blew your brain apart?
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yes, ebola (wtf lmao) and stirner (lol spooks) and neatche (so edgy)
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>>8256381
Stop trying to force this lame ass Nirvana guy into memedom and go the fuck back to /mu/. You guys don't even shitpost right.

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