Has anyone read "Guts" by Chuck Palahniuk ?
http://chuckpalahniuk.net/features/shorts/guts
Pretty disturbing! Can you read it all without feeling queasy ?
>>7862635
o my the sheer shillery
>>7862635
The part with the Middle Eastern kids made me shy away from the monitor...
>reading more
Okay, I'm clearly not in the mood for this.
Hi Chuck
Why would anyone keep writing books these days if the things this and the generations to come read the most are tweets with 140 characters?
>>7862551
ars gratia artis
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circle jerking obviously
People are reading more if anything... It's just not your shitty dead tree stink
Scary/Twisted/Disturbing Books ?
I'm looking for a book that will truly give me nightmares, or maybe just make me feel like someone is watching me. Yes, I am weird, but I enjoy scary movies and books. I've only read a few that made me have to put it down to contemplate why I feel I need to keep reading.
Any suggestions?
this book
>>7862504
What is it about ?
>>7862486
Wikileaks: The world according to U.S empire.
>mfw the world freedom doesn't exist in greek
they knew.
Finally finished this bitch. Liked it overall but will probably be some time before I pick up another Pinecone novel (also read Lot49 previously).
General V. discussion?
And seriously, what was the deal with Benny hammering all those condoms up everywhere towards the beginning?
best part of the book
"go on, speak Italian benny!"
*buuuurp* "sfacim"
>>7862474
You just read the two best Pynchon novels anon, you don't need to go back and pick anything up from him anymore.
>>7862512
What about GR?
Is it true that TRP posts in the waste mailing list? Does anyone have a link to his posts?
He hasn't in the years I've been on it. I know where he posts but I won't tell, I don't want to fill it with dummies. : ^)
I like to believe the old meme that Pynchon has posted here. This is partly to stroke my own ego as a 4chan regular, but it's also partly sensible. Knowing what I know of Pynchon, and knowing what I know of the whole breadth of the internet, I have to think that if he were to be a regular anywhere online, he'd be a regular on 4chan. I mean, where else would he fit in?
>>7862420
>TRP
you can just call him Pynchon. not everybody has to be DFW
Can you recommend any works of literature—preferably fiction—with reactionary themes? I'm thinking, for example, of the works of D.H. Lawrence, with their reproach of modernity. The works need not be wholly reactionary, so long as they embrace at least one attendant theme.
bump
Junger for Luddite Reactionary
The Deconstruction of the Deconstruction
Can we talk about the genius of Raymond Chandler? Or why you think he’s not a genius?
“He finished his call and hung up. He leaned back and sat there brooding, staring down at his desk, but not forgetting to look out of the window every half minute. He was waiting, and I waited with him, for no reason at all. Doctors make many phone calls, talk to many people. Doctors look out of their front windows, doctors frown, doctors show nervousness, doctors have things on their mind and show the strain. Doctors are just people, born to sorrow, fighting the long grim fight...
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>>7862406
Then at last I looked at Eileen. She sat leaning forward, her hands clasped tightly. The downward tilt of her face hid her expression if she had any. And when she spoke her voice had the lucid emptiness of that mechanical voice on the telephone that tells you the time and if you keep on listening, which people don't because they have no reason to, it will keep on telling you the passing seconds forever, without the slightest change of inflection.
I love Chandler, OP. Have you read any Ross MacDonald? He's...
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>>7862446
You nailed it. The plots are sometimes convoluted, but DAMN if he's not a master at prose.
I'm in the middle of The Long Goodbye. The dialogue is great. I'll be sad when I've finished his works.
I'll check out Ross MacDonald. Someone else suggested Dashiell Hammett. Is he any good?
Chandlers books are one of a few that I can pick up and read again an again at any time. Such great atmosphere, you don't even mind a few inconsistencies here and there. Btw, you should listen to Bohren & der Club of Gore while reading them.
https://youtu.be/L33XI7ZnNjQ
>Plain Lo in the morning. Lola in slacks. Lois Lane.
What did he mean by this?
If that was actually in the movie then I can only assume it was some random reference thrown in for literally no reason
>>Lolita? I have no idea why though.
>>7862342
I think he's hinting that he's aware of the relationship to superman. maybe like her and superman have to maintain a prof. image for work (slacks = full name), just lois in closed doors
What is supposed to be the take away from this book? I'm half way through it and there is a lot of stuff to remember.
There is no take away, it's eat in only.
>>7862331
Seriously though.
epistemological anarchy
ontological warfare
ethical pragmatism
political apathy
aesthetic existentialism
Anybody into some good weird fiction? I'm in the mood. Favorite authors? Novels? Short stories? I quite enjoy Brian Evenson and Stephen Graham Jones.
Pic related was okay. I just really dig the cover.
>>7862142
Well I've read a couple books by China Mieville (Perdido Street Station and Looking for Jake, both prety good books) if that counts, and I've got City of Saints and Madmen on my shelf (got the gf to gift it to me). Worth a read, you think?
If this thread is willing to branch into Bizarro fiction, I'll say that Carlton Mellick isn't that bad. Read Succubus and the Dildo of Enlightment, they were nice novellas. Not groundbreaking or anything, but definitely better than what most fuckers put...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mees,_kes_teadis_ussisõnu
Check this out "a man who spoke snakish"
>>7862142
Other language covers are better but it's pretty good.
Just read Roadside Picnic.
is my friend an idiot for purchasing this and reading it?
>>7861897
Yes. Third rate bastardisation of The Prince. This book is to Machiavelli what Otto West is to Nietzsche
>>7861897
>my friend.
>>7861897
No. It's a metaphor engine for attaining and holding onto the ability to help & hurt other people.
/lit/ ain't read it. /lit/ ain't read much, really. Mostly just Corncob McCarthy & one or two things from Bloom's canon.
Must read books?
Hey guys,
I've been struggling with my confidence as a writer lately. There are a lot of factors, but it mainly stems from crippling perfectionism and trying to be as original and authentic as possible.
I'm writing stories and, as I reread and edit, the second I feel I spot something that looks too cliche and unoriginal, I try to rewrite it but all I can think about is how it's not enough not enough not enough.
Recently, I feel like my mind has started to let some of this go as I've done more research into originality and the history...
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What is the origin?
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This is terrifying for me. This is why I have so much hard time actually writing. I always think about ideas that I think that are good but every time I think "wait, wasn't that used before?" or "is it really an original idea or I'm copying someone without even knowing?"
it is completely impossible to avoid cliches
in fact, blatant attempts to subvert a cliche have themselves become cliche
when you think about it, by trying to difficultly to work around what seems a natural part of the story you're being less "authentic" to your own vision
What are the books every True Gentleman should read?
Zizek, to rid you of this malignant ideology
My Twisted World by Sir Elliot Rodger
>>7861751
>a book in which a manlet gets beaten up and rejected systematically by women
>True Gentleman
Why are the ratings for most high-quality classics on goodreads so low?
I mean for movies and art the critics seem to agree with the audiences at least to some degree but everyone who still reads seems to only appreciate the most simplistic and easy stories
Like look at the page for moby duck for christs sake
>>7861555
Fucking hell autocorrect
Thanks censors
who the fuck gives a shit. why don't you make a thread discussing a book you retard
>>7861570
Maybe I like talking about art as a whole too instead of constantly discussing specific books
Can't always talk about it in school because of the way it is formatted