I fucking hate 19th century literature. Black and white morals, dumb ass frame narratives and main characters on the periphery of the action, proto-metafictional junk like the pretense that someone is writing a diary or blanking out street or character names with -----, everyone overreacting to everything and being melodramatic, man what a shit century.
>>7887467
desu i never read anything pre-1900
>>7887467
SHIT MY EYES ARE ON FIRE FROM THIS HOT TAKE
>>7887467
That's a pretty sweeping generalization anon, a century is a pretty long time.
best version V. to read?
The kind that comes with ink on paper. What the fuck question is that?
>>7887463
Seriously. OP, never ask this question again about a work originally published in English.
>>7887460
the one that is cheapest at your local non-chain bookstore.
fucking morons
Hello /lit/,
I'm a student at University and I am taking a playwriting class. Every week we are supposed to read a play from the master list of playwrites (pic related), and write what is more or less a book report about the play.
This week, however, the professor has asked us to photocopy a specific two sequential pages of the text and explain line-by-line how each line adds something to the text as a whole.
Can /lit/ recommend me a play by one of these authors? Specifically one you think could fit the additional requirement of line-by-line analysis.
Thanks!
>no shakespeare
>no elizabethan/jacobean playwrights
????
Take it to the homework board
>>/hm/
>>7887356
Beckett would be perfect for this exercise, as he packs so much into every line.
I looked at two versions of Madame Bovary at a book store and they were totally different. French isn't all that different from English so I know at least one of them must be taking considerable liberties. What's the best English translation to read, and how much of a difference does it make which one I go with?
Madame Bovary kills herself at the end.
>>7887351
The best by far is the Francis Steegmuller translation.
>>7887360
That depends on which translation you read.
I know to start with the Greeks.
If I want to read Finnegans Wake, what all do I need to read between the Greeks and Finnegans Wake?
the western canon
>>7887290
Everything. It would quicker to list what you don't need.
Besides this what are some other great post-modern Christian books?
>>7887281
guess all the christposters found a new fad
>>7887281
gene wolfe, book of the new sun
the grifter
What are some mind expanding books?
Phenomenology of Spirit
gravity's rainbow
the book of lies
illuminatus
prometheus rising
principia discordia
valis
transmigration of timothy archer
the exegesis of philip k dick
the gnostic bible
the ego and its own
finnegans wake
What do you guys think of pic related?
>>7887181
madame zubumba cant write for shit.
>>7887184
>it bad
okay. now how did you arrive to that conclusion? genuinely curious.
Fantastic. Would put it in the top 10 books released so far this century. Each section is better than the last - by the time you get to the younger generation in the last two sections there's so much built-up momentum and symbology that the last 200 pages are just a blast.
I'm trying to be more well read and I keep hearing how great this is, but I don't think I've read enough to fully appreciate it. Before I read it, can anyone give me a list of things I should read first?
check the archive. this has been asked countless times before.
>>7887122
Can I get a link, senpai?
>>7887123
Better yet, a chart for the wiki.
Anyone actually read this and if yes would you recommend it? I heard that's it's supposed to be pretty good, but it's like 50 bucks where I live
>inb4 weebtrash gtfo
Please, don't.
Amazing. Read it in one day. If you're a recluse or shut-in you will relate. Especially if you suffer from mental illness.
The book also ends great. No one improves, there is no fairytale ending.
>>7887039
oh! I forgot to mention. Go to this site called rightstuf. It's a weeaboo store that sells japanese novels/manga/anime/figures. They sell it for like 10-15 bucks there. I bought it for like twice as much on amazon =[
Can we have a Brandon Sanderson hate thread? Everywhere I go everyone seems to ride his dick even though his books are worse than ass cancer.
dont talk about shitty authors or give them attention
>>7886986
>Brandon Sanderson
literally, who? don't make me look him up on wikipedia.
Brandon Sanderson is my least favorite sort of author: one whose works leave me with the strong suspicion that I could have done a better job myself.
/lit/ any good books on chess you can recommend? Just started playing and am looking to develop better tactics etc.
>>>/tg/
>/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc.
The classic beginner chess book (after you've learned the moves and very basic strategies) is Logical Chess: Move by Move by Irving Chernev. Made me a few hundred points better.
The Luneburg Variation was quite good.
Hey /lit, looking for a good read specifically one with deep meaning, i don't want anything to long but don't make it short.
>>7886839
First make your picture something that isn't uninspired trash.
>>7886839
Read some philosophy tracts, Nietzsche is always popularly divisive, he's always worth reading just to figure out if you think he's brillo, nuts or some combination thereof.
Beyond good and evil is an accessible enough starter text
Also "deep" is a contemptible term.
It's bitterly ironic that people use such a meaningless filler word as a descriptor for relatively complex or difficult books.
>>7886849
>brillo
stopped reading
u cant write u cant think
Which do you think are the worst sins that a writer can commit?
>>7886665
Not being concise.
I fcking hate empty romantic triangles.
Writing anything Nabokov disliked: fat books of lazy ideas, socially-minded allegories, derivative and lifeless claptrap, hopeless mires of misunderstood mythology and facile symbolism.
> For instance, it turned out that one of his basic operating premises was the claim that there were really only two basic, fundamental orientations a person could have toward the world, (1) love and (2) fear, and that they couldn’t coexist (or, in logical terms, that their domains were exhaustive and mutually exclusive,or that their two sets had no intersection but their union comprised all possible elements, or that: ‘(∀x) ((Fx → ~ (Lx)) & (Lx → ~ (Fx))) & ~ ((∃x) (~ (Fx) & ~ (Lx))’), meaning in other words that each day of...
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my favourite short story desu familia.
> Toward the end she had compared me to some piece of ultra-expensive new medical or diagnostic equipment that can discern more about you in one quick scan than you could ever know about yourself — but the equipment doesn’t care about you, you’re just a sequence of processes and codes. What the machine understands about you doesn’t actually mean anything to it. Even though it’s really good at what it does.
>>7886566
>completely unnecessary mathematical notation
>people don't think David is talking about himself in this story about a fraud who needs to impress people
>people are still impressed with David's writing