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I know everything I want to know. Life is not a secret for me anymore. You know that feel, /lit/?
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you must not know very much
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"I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, so I do not fancy I do."

– Socrates
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Habe nun, ach! Philosophie,
Juristerei and Medizin,
Und leider auch Theologie
Durchaus studiert, mit heißem Bemühn.
Da steh' ich nun, ich armer Tor,
Und bin so klug als wie zuvor!

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Is Dune literature?
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>>8033650
The movie isn't
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/thread
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>>8033677
frogposting definetly isn't

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Sales of printed books have grown for the first time in four years, lifted by the adult colouring book craze and 150th anniversary of Alice in Wonderland, as ebooks suffered their first ever decline.

Lotinga said that strong sectors include adult colouring books, such as Lost Ocean by The Secret Garden illustrator Johanna Basford, as well as The Complete Alice, the 150th anniversary edition of Lewis Carroll’s famous fairytale.

The biggest hardback seller was The Girl on The Train, selling more than 546,000 copies – the newly released paperback version has sold...
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Why dont I just read books on an atm machine?
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>>8033517

Everyman's Library gives me boners
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>>8033517
We coloring and moving pictures now.

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What's /lit/'s idea of the connection between philosophy and literature?

Should the author be aware of the philosophical implications of his works?
Can a writer be of importance if he isn't aware of the philosophical interpretations of his works?
Is it true that the literary works we see as important, are considered thus because they have their place in the discourse of philosophy?
Or can literature just be a story, serving as mere entertainment or something aesthetically pleasant?
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>>8033482
The connection is obvious, "literature" and "philosophy" are just terms we use to demarcate categories of expression, there is no intrinsic divide between them outside of what can be called projects of intellectual work, but the result of either projects can fulfill what the other nominally aims towards.
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In the view of most philosophers, it is either the duty of literature, or a key quality, to include philosophical thought. In many ways, an author can communicate philsophy more fluidly than the philosopher. This is because, while philosophy can be rather dense and hard to understand, philsosophy communicated through narrative is perhaps easier to grasp.

Samuel Beckett is a very good example of this.

Although to answer your question, literature can be both. Arguably, what we consider to be literary greats or classics are those works which have philosophical resonations....
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>>8035145
What a load of tripe

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>Redditzche
>Redditner
>David Foster Reddit
>Redditchon
>Redditoryce
>Harold Blooreddit
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>>8033334
>replace things 4chan talks about with Reddit xD so fahnny
>not "Reddit Foster Wallace"

terrible
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Those who know reddit, are of reddit.

Ego, those who smelt it, dealt it.
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>>8033339
Reddit
>>8033341
Reddit

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do you think art should be accessible for the working class or should it be a pursuit of the higher classes exclusively?
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Art should be pursued by the spirited and spirit should be accessible to all mankind equally
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art being inaccessible is usually just the result of the "masses'" own inherent ignorance and disinterest in anything artistic rather than a forced active agenda by any "elites"
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only aurtists actively think about being aurtistic enough 4 the whole world 2 see like the little faglord aurtists they are

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Is "Guns, Germs and Steel" accurate or is it just some bullshit used to justify white guilt?
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it's a new york times best seller and won the pleblitzer prize

it's shit
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Anthropologist here. It's bullshit used to justify both white guilt and white supremacy, in that now we're supposed to get involved constantly and fix everything by making them "as advanced as us" (see "bringing democracy to the middle east" and so forth).

For evidence that Jared Diamond's view is basically "states and capitalism need to get in on all this shit and control errybody," see this article:

http://www.survivalinternational.org/news/8958

He's also not trained as an anthropologist or a historian,...
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>>8033213
This is/may be a good argument

>>8033200
This isn't and will never be

I'd like to sticky this thread as an example of how /lit/ should work

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What does /lit/ think of Sartre?

I've noticed that this board has a generally low opinion of existentialism but I've been reading about him and he seems like a legit guy. He rejected the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964 and was apparently a Marxist or something because he saw money as something unnatural that influenced people to do things they wouldn't do otherwise.
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>>8033112
hating existentialist philosophy is the meme. i don't think people hate existentialism, but they hate the types people it attracts. most people use it as a fun mental exercise, or an introduction to philosophy, but those who pose as intellectually savvy for fashionable purposes is the target of ridicule and disgust.
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>>8033112
sartre is disliked for multiple reasons- I personally believe he was the least prodigious of the french resistance. he was lazy and pompous. his jealousy of camus opened a huge character flaw of his, he misinterpreted Heidegger, and his fiction was an attempt of Celine's style, even though the two despised one another.

i forgot- his support of leftist/marxist movements made him even more laughable. an opportunistic tapeworm that can't even look at you straight in the eye

ps later on down the...
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>>8033140
> that can't even look at you straight in the eye

obvious gag and low-blow but i still laughed

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>"Faulkner, William. Dislike him. Writer of corncobby chronicles. To consider them masterpieces is an absurd delusion. A nonentity, means absolutely nothing to me."
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>be Russian
>pick up saxophone on a whim
>holy shit I'm really good at this saxophone
>don't really need any training at all
>just doodle doot doot on the saxophone, people love me
>amazing at this saxophone
>people ask how I'm so good
>tell them I can smell colors
>"I just...
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I really, really, really like this jif, do you by any chance have a webum version
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What do you think of the theory of the Mandela Effect? What all could explain this phenomenon... Are there any good books out there on the subject?

If you don't know what the Mandela effect is check out these links.

http://mandelaeffect.com/about/faqs/

http://mandelaeffect.com/major-memories/

http://mandelaeffect.com/

http://mandelaeffect.com/possible-explanations/
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People just suck at annunciation and/or have bad memory. Prior to widespread internet usage and smartphones people held their misconceptions totally unaware that they might have misremembered and/or misheard. Now that you can look-up the Berenstain Bears instantly on a smartphone people go into denial when they realize they've mispronounced it for so many years.
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>americans have no education and no attention span
>they try to explain their being retarded with fucking multiverse theory
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These are all easy mistakes to make. Simple miscommunications. Why would you claim it's anything else?
>b-but it's possible!!!!!1!

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Recommend me some books that go with spending your welfare money on rum and limes and sipping daiquiris in a hammock listening to the Beach Boys.
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my diary desu
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Who has ever said to themselves that they want a life where they do nothing? I'd rather be dead.
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>>8033263
Doing nothing is fun, mate.

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What books can help me to stop feeling guilty for not working to become richer? And to cope with being ugly and never having had attention from girls despite having been to university for four years? And to cope with having zero friends, even in university?

I have no idea what I would do as a rich person anyway but I still feel pathetic about not being successful.

I saw the movie Everybody Wants Some!! today and felt horrible because I'm not living the fun life and I never have. I've never been to a pub or party or nightclub (UK litizen here)
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retarded feelposter gb2 >>>/r9k/
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read the words of hermes trismegistus and become brown pilled
wear a floppy conical hat that looks like a fresh corn cob everywhere
read borges too
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maybe bukowski?

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Tell me about the moment it "clicked" for you.
Has it changed the way you approach philosophy?
Do you disagree with the arguments in "naming and necessity"? If so why?
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At the moment I'm more interested in modalities as adjoint functors in dependently typed (programming) languages.
I started Kripkes book years ago, but put it down. I've since then found out he's one of those literal (literal) autists (it's a pain to hear him talk) and it kind of takes from my potential admiration
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>>8032867
He writes very clearly though. Yeah I can't listen to him speak without squirming either, he came to my uni a few weeks back and he looked homeless.

I suggest you pick it up again, but it's hard to follow without having read Locke, Kant, Hume, etc and impossible to follow without having read at least Frege and Russell

100% worth it though
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>nearly anything, granted it abides standards of well-formedness and meaningfulness, can be translated to formal languages
>properties and limitations of natural languages (vagueness, ambiguity) and first-order logic (nonfirstorderizability, etc.)
>translating formulae in and out of two different formal languages (classical -> intuitionist and vice versa, say)
>syntax vs semantics distinction
>type vs token distinction
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>the title is from shakespeare
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>>8032737
>the title is a fucking calendar year
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>the first two words are a response to the first two words of a play from shakespeare
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>>8032784
I love this picture of Harold Bloom, its like he's going to go outside but then its raining so he just stops for a moment and looks out as the weather gets even worse.
except its a metaphor for the humanities

what's the literature equivalent of this masterpiece?
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the davinci code
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>>8032745
the davinco code isn't the masterpiece of the decade
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