Do I need to read V before GR? Will I be completely lost if I jump right into GR after only having reading COL49?
Pynchons my fav writer for sure because my fav thing in books is goofs, gags, jokes and rambunctious behavior, and his books are full to the brim of it. Every novel is like one of those novelty snake cans, you open the book & POP you get a face fulla snakes and you fall back cackling. The mad mind, the crack genius, to do it! and then you think hmmm whats he gonna do next, this trickster, and you pick the book back up and BZZZZZZZZZZ you get a shock and Hahahahahah you've been pranked again by the old pynchmeister, that card. "Did that Pynch?" he says, laughing...
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Some say yes, some say no. I'd say read V. If you like it, it'll give you good will toward Pynchon that will help getting through the slow parts of GR. And if you end up hating Pynchon, then at least you found that out after reading a 500 page book, not a 1000 page one.
>>8268334
No. The only hurdle of GR is that people who just dive into it knowing nothing about Pynchon get turned off by his quirks. The book is probably a lot more easier to read than you think it is.
Ok so I'm about halfway through this and I'm forcing myself to continue.
The last 10 chapters have just been long winded descriptions of whales,water,sky,islands, exc. and a short story about some mutiny on another ship that is completely unrelated to the story and lead absolutely fucking nowhere. I liked the first few chapters, the characters are interesting but NOTHING IS HAPPENING. All of this feels like i'm reading a students attempt to turn a 200 word essay into a 200 page essay.
How much of this can I skip? When does it go back to being good?
go back to reading YA novels
It will all become clear once you finish the book
>reading moby dick for the plot
I bet you read Shakespeare for the narrative, pl00b
How do I read deeply/deeper?
Read aloud.
laminate and a waterproof flashlight
>>8268286
I've found philosophy helps. It gives you some tools to put things together and if the philosopher is prominent enough they are will probably be referenced by many major works
ITT: /lit/ characters that are literally you
I'll start. For me it's The Judge from Blood Meridian. Intelligent nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
And yours??
Quit sucking the fun out of anonymity.
Le Underground Man.
>>8268264
Alright satan.
Do you have any personal horror stories about your library?
there's an old guy that goes to mine every day to use the computers to trawl underaged girls Facebook photos and watch mass services; it makes me wonder if he's unwelcome at all the local churches for being a hyper-paedo (which, given that this is a predominately catholic city is saying something)
>>8265664
>Go to main branch library (think is like 7 or 8 levels fucking huge
>10 minutes to closing there is some faggot walking around in a black ceremonial cloak with a hood and a couple HP Lovecraft books
>We have reached new autistic heights
>>8265664
No. Other than the fact that everyone is fine with everyone else not shutting the fuck up.
Maybe it's just me, but I like:
• Lord Of The Rings
• A Song of Ice and Fire
• Hitchhiker's Guide (Gasp!)
I see these books shittalked constantly for being badly written, overly detailed, etc. yet IMO they are all excellent books and great reads.
Yet all I hear are faggots who hate these books for no other reason than because they are mainstream and polular
>inb4 pleb
What if it turned out that you were the pretentious one for caring so much about what others think of your taste instead of just enjoying it.
>>8265635
harry potter for adults brah.
>>8265644
Probably right
Why don't we start with the Sumerians instead?
Plebs obsessed with MUH HOMER MUH PLATO DURRR
>>8265228
/lit/ is more fond of the western canon. But I do agree with you. Any thread I see of Gilgamesh usually gets ignored.
>>8265228
Because we only read dead, white males
Post recent purchases, jerk, recommend, share, ask questions.
What's the Greek book?
>>8263953
I've gotten my pills all mixed up m8. Can't tell the difference anymore.
>>8263960
It's by Giacomo Leopardi, The Canti's translated from Italian. Poetry, he's supposed to be an italian genius of sorts or something like that, i wanted to get zibaldone as well which is a collection of all his thoughts on philosophy, math, etc. Doubt i'll understand a lot of it but great insight into a man which i know nothing of and want to learn more.
1$ books
welp,can't argue with that I'll go read it theb
don'ton't
It's a meme.
That should be enough by internet standards
Why are they considered the "Meme trilogy"?
Are they for petulant squibs or are they the founding masterpiece novels that others should be predicated on?
Please elaborate.....
Because they are the most talked about novels on this board
They are also critically acclaimed
>>8273068
They're good books that aren't popular IRL. The moment Ulysees is mentioned in the same sentence which mentions To Kill a Mockingbird or Of Mice and Men, it'll be meme'd off this board.
>>8273085
I LOVED "Of Mice and Men" but "To Kill A Mockingbird" I feel is some subservient brainwash cockamamie that the Bilderberg group insisted public schools to teach.
Are these 3 "meme" novels enjoyable to read? I understand I am supposed to get an underlying meaning or philosophy after reading them, but how strong are the stories? How clear are the motifs?
What are some of the best anti-war/anti-military novels?
>>8272919
My diary desu
Also Catch 22
>>8272919
Johnny Got His Gun is the GOAT anti-war novel. Read that, OP.
If anyone's got anything else, I'm open ears. I need some more stuff like that to be honest. I've already read Slaughterhouse Five (the obvious one).
>>8272922
i wouldn't say Catch-22 was against war so much as it exposed the idiotic way in which the second world war was conducted. according to P.J.O'Rourke, things have changed a little since then.
I hate ironic faggots, what are some books that are sincere and don't rely on irony?
>>8272546
you are literally being ironic in that one sentence post
infinite jest
>>8272556
I never said I wasn't self-loathing.
>writer uses too many adjectives
>implying your aren't a right winged dimwitted tryhard postmodernist pesud-pleb /lit/izen
>the majority of of adjectives used are used to describe color
>writer uses too many metaphors/similes
You know those lines of poetry that stuck with you, that you day-dreamed telling a future gf of, or thought you'd want to be told on your funeral, or what it might be? Post it here. The lines that stuck with you.
>>8272500
"Look on my works, ye Mighty, and this pair!"
>>8273266
"lol u tk him 2da bar?|"
>>8272500
Wer viel einst zu verkünden hat,
Schweigt viel in sich hinein:
Wer einst den Blitz zu zünden hat,
Muß lange - Wolke sein.
Is there any literature regarding tackling your own laziness? Yes, I know this is a despicable request.
>>8272485
If there is, you'd probably be too lazy to read it. Also, there's self-help trash if you consider that literature.
There's plenty of self help books regarding that.
I don't know why the /lit/ hive-mind is so against them. What is wrong with simple advice? Is it because it does not impress people on goodreads?
>>8272485
The Iliad