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lookin for comfy 50's60's beat/folk lit

i've already read kerouac,ginsberg,burroughs,pynchon,farina

please help.
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I've a vague idea Leonard Cohen's novel is somewhere in that ballpark.
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>>8114706
really? i figured itd be some kinda slapdash surrealism

ill look into this
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>>8113199
that chick clinging onto Bob could fit in todays world with that straight hair/coat/boots fashion.

this album came out closer to WW1 than it did today

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Can we have an unpopular opinions thread, with a little bit of substance? Give a reason for your distaste.

I only ever read F. Scott Fitzgerald once, and that was about three quarters of The Beautiful and the Damned. It's as if Fitzgerald is utterly oblivious to the vacuum that was his between-wars generation and he actually thinks we're interested in their dull lives and love-affairs. He's an anti-Hemingway. Whenever someone defends him it is usually the he has a "style", but I just find it obnoxious and bloated, and if he's all style over...
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that's a shame that you don't like Fitzgerald, Tender is the Night is fantastic
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try this side of paradise, its a helluva lot of fun. beautiful and damned is generally considered to be a bit of a dud these days

also.. you're missing the point if you think fitz isn't looking on these people. i agree his content becomes boring but not because he's only interested in the petty affairs of the bourgeois but because he is so boring in bis unwavering hatred of them

tender is the night is fucking ACE
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>>8113210
no fitz go away

>he is so boring in bis unwavering hatred of them
It's as if you hate Tchad so you write a flat travel guide about it.

Why are certain genres considered for plebs? Why are most fantasy and scifi typically not considered intellectually stimulating? Or for that matter why are supposedly good examples of literature in those genres (LotR; Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?) intellectually stimulating when they don't seem to me to be any moreso than the average work in the genre?
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>>8113085
Because fantasy and sci-fi are relatively young genres and classic literature consists of elitist fucks, much like /lit/ itself.
Just read what you like without any care what others think about what you like.
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>>8113085
It's not only sci-fi/fantasy, elitism in literature literally kills
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jen%C5%91_Rejt%C5%91
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>>8113085
>Why are certain genres considered for plebs?
Because the standards of writing are generally much lower in those genres.

>Why are most fantasy and scifi typically not considered intellectually stimulating?
Because a lot of books in the genre ghetto are there because they adhere strictly to the genre's conventions and therefore have nothing new to say. This is much more true for fantasy than sci-fi, though- lots of sci-fi is intellectually...
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How does /lit/ feel about blind casting? Pic related, the Globe Theatre's 2010 production of Romeo and Juliet.

Personally I think it's fine for most stage productions, since casting choices are limited, but for film production of Shakespeare, especially when it aims to be a well funded period reproduction (as with the Hollow Crown series), I find it very jarring because it pulls me out of the immersion.
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I miss the days when all the female roles where played by traps. wtf went wrong?
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who gives a shit? do you whinge and whine about the costumes too? or the props?

all you need for good drama is a few good actors/actresses. you don't even really need women to play the women. costumes should tell you how one character relates to another, but they don't really need to be accurate to the period. why should the skin color match? what difference does it make?

the globe theater puts on shakespeare in RP anyway, which should be a much worse barrier to your variety of immersion. Some of the puns and rhymes don't even fucking work. Does...
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I just want the record to state that the original thread read "bling casting" before OP deleted it and remade this thread reading "blind casting."

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Was Michael Crichton a good author? I personally like his books, but I'm not sure if they can be called "good"
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Liked him a lot, was my introduction to science fiction along with Asimov. Had a bunch of great ideas, his prose (as it is sadly the case with many other sf writers) wasn't always up to snuff. Congo and Sphere were pretty well written though.
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>>8119009
Sphere was mosdef my favorite from what I've read
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His books are fun reads, and his prose is unobtrusive and well tailored to his genre.

who is the better poet

mira gonzalez
rupi Kaur
savannah brown
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>>8118806
That's a trick question: none of them are actual poets.
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>>8118806
Post a poem from each
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Tao should have never told Mira about us. Now she won't stop viraling.

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Ay mane let's see that handwriting.
>b...but I type!
All the more reason to show it, scrabblehands.

Pic related is about a year old, some things might have changed.
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Here you go. My notes on Hegel and his thing about the Death of Art.

Your handwriting is exceedingly neat OP.
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There's already a handwriting thread somewhere around here, op. You blew it.

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What are the best of the best books to learn about any and all mythology and folklore? Abrahamic stuff counts, too.

I want to learn everything for a universe I'm making in my spare time.

Folklore is anything from regular classic folklore to other stuff like Springheeled Jack, 20th century alien stuff, ghost stories (Bloody Mary), conspiracy theories, etc.
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>>8118236
my diary 2bqh
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>>8118236
There got to be thousands of websites for this, google is your friend.
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>>8118236
Use google for something this basic you faggot.

Can't you see summer is fucking this place over enough?

I'm curious of perspectives outside of my own so, anxiety thread. Share your experiences.

Reason I ask is because I'm writing about self deprecative insecurity, and the resulting anxiety. Sometimes self consciousness can be crippling to the point that you narcissistically become obsessed with hating and analysing yourself. Typically, my social anxiety doesn't manifest in the midst of conversation (although it can), but rather in an aftermath of contemplation. If you've ever had a drunken stupor of introspection then you know the feeling.

Also...
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The problem is thinking.

It can't, therefore, be solved with thinking.

There are ways to control and stop thinking. You have to find them.

It's called professional help.
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>>8117747
Personally not looking for help, but I appreciate it. Just intrigued by anxiety and am curious about other people here opening up with their encounters with it in general.
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>>8117753
Enjoy your drama.

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I'm righting my first novel ever.

Should I make it first person or third person? Which is better?
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>>8117596
>I'm righting my first novel ever.

what was wrong with it
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Sometimes trolls can be funny, but this is pathetic :(
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>>8117596
Start by writing fanfiction

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FUCK.

how does one effectively argue against simplism? please tell me this is a thing that has been done.
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>>8117592
you don't.
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>>8117592
maybe give us some context?
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>>8117610
why would there be a particular context? honestly this is an everyday skill that I have somehow come to exist without.

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>It's a steeply and marathe chapter
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yeah they're not so good
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>>8117584
I mean they're alright, I just feel like they drag on a bit
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>it's a Pemulis chapter

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Serious question:
How do you guys handle it personally when you receive harsh artistic/aesthetic criticism of your work? I want to put aside any debate about whether a particular work is good or not good. I'm more interested in what you do when you've created something which has strong resonance and is aesthetically poignant for you and someone who's opinion you respect trashes it?
How do we know if it is actually good or not? Is it good enough for it to just satisfy ourselves? If so what's the point in publishing?
I'm keen to just have a discussion...
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Also before anyone mentions it: yes, suicide is an option
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bamp

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Hunger is so short, does it really deserve to be that high?
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>>8117504
fug i'm stupid, i thought whatever's to the right of the recognitions was hunger. Pretend it is
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A "soldier" of reading
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>>8117536
truly euphoric

>died while
embracing her children.

are all french novels this shitty?
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>>8117431
Yes, just look at Dumas, Hugo, and Camus. All dreadful
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>>8117442
i keep hoping that Zola and Proust might be worth it but i have a feeling they're gonna be utter shit too.
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How come all these authors suck?

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