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This is kinda an odd question but what are some good books that deal with the brutality of nature. I have pick related and was wondering if there is much else like it? A friend suggested the Sagas of Icelanders but I would have to read a translation.
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>>8134025
Give Butcher's Crossing a shot.

You might like reading nonfiction about the polar expeditions too. Nature doesn't get much more brutal than Antarctica.
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>>8134025
Don't fall for the memes about reading in translation, it's perfectly fine if you aren't an autist.
Of course, it's worth researching which translations are best for a given work.
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obviously Moby Dick

“Deep down in your heart you don’t believe in your suffering, there is a stirring of mockery, and yet you suffer – in the most genuine, honest-to-goodness way. I’d be jealous, I’d be beside myself . . . . And all was out of boredom, gentlemen, all because I was crushed by sheer inertia. For the direct, inevitable, and logical product of consciousness is inertia – a conscious sitting down with folded arms. I have spoken about this before. I repeat, I repeat with emphasis: all direct and active men are active precisely because they are dull and limited. How can this be explained? Well, it’s this way : because of their limitation, they mistake the most immediate and secondary causes for primary ones, and so convince themselves more quickly and more easily than others that that they have found a firm, incontestable basis for their activity This puts their minds at ease, and that, after all, is the main thing. For, naturally, to enter upon any course of action, one must be completely reassured in advance, and free of any trace of doubt. And how am I, for instance, to put my mind at ease? Where are the primary causes I can lean on, where are my basic premises? Where am I to find them? I exercise myself in thought, and hence, within my mind, every primary cause immediately drags after itself another, still more primary, and so on to infinity. Such is the very essence of all consciousness and thought. We’re back, then, to the laws of nature. And what is the ultimate result? Why, the same thing again.”

What did he mean by this?
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Man, Dostoevsky really needed an editor. He needs to learn about paragraph breaks.

"Omit needless words." - Stunk and White
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>>8134015
Rules were made to be broken --arnold
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>>8134015
really, dude?

Anyways, I'm more upset by that cover design

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What are some philosophical books that BTFO marxism/socialism?

Pic definitely unrelated.
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>>8133861
There aren't any, it's like looking for a book that BTFO evolution, there's a lot out there claiming it but they're all worthless
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just read max stirner
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La bible du roi Jacques.

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Post books of the same edition, r8 b8 h8, /r/
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>>8133862
>the possessed
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>>8133881
cucked

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How does it compare with Mason & Dixon and Gravity's Rainbow?
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>>8133796
I would also like to know
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>>8133796
Good, but not as good. Definitely better than Bleeding Edge, The Crying of Lot 49, Inherent Vice, and Vineland.
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seriously. no one else has read this. I thought you guys like pinecone. your all a bunch of pseuds.

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ITT: recommend horror books.

I want something that is scary and fast paced.
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Hell House by Richard Matheson
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>>8133724
House of Leaves is a pretty good horror book, but the concrete gimmick gets kind of annoying and gives authors who do it well a bad rap.
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>>8134519
This looks pretty good, i'll check it out.

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>Decide to engage literary giant, James Joyce
>Begin with one of his less dense works
>I buy a Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
>I open to the first page to begin my journey in to the world of great literature
>Once upon a time and a very good time it was there was a moocow coming down along the road and this moocow that was down along the road met a nicens little boy named baby tuckoo

>mfw...
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Who are you quoting?
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It's a parody of dickens
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>>8133694
Start with Duliners plebgot.

>"Dickens? He's so overrated."
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Dickens is garbage in both prose, message, and setting development. His success is an emperor has no clothes phenomenon
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>muh upbeat olde brit tales

Who's the fedora here?
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Dickens isn't very interesting tbqh the only benefit in reading him is to get an insight on the period he wrote in

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Why didn't you like the Catcher in the Rye? The consensus on /lit/ (it appears) is that its shit.
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>>8133541
I thought it was alright. I also read it when I was 15.
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>>8133541
Because it was a bad novel.
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It's the archetypal YA novel, it singlehandedly killed literature.

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guilty pleasures thread
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Why guilty? Did you just want to show off?
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>semiotext(e)
Pretentiousness incarnate.
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>>8133411
this >>8133419 is why

have you read a better fantasy saga in the last 10 years?
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Yes:

The Great Book of Amber
The Inheritance Trilogy
Book of the New Sun
Urth of the New Sun
The Dark Tower series
The Dreamblood series
Lord of the Rings trilogy
The Prose and Poetic Edda
Ring of the Nibelung

I could go on...
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>>8132861
Yep.
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>>8132971
>comparing edda to modern day fantasy novels

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Books with devastating endings
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> inb4 stoner
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Brave New World, Shutter Island, The Sun Also Rises, The Great Gatsby
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100 pages in, and this is going to be a slog. Writing is fantastic, it's just long. I don't know about you guys, but the type is so small in my edition I have to hold the book right next to my face. I don't have bad eyesight.

Also, I get that this is partially about fraudulence, but he constantly uses this negative/false/descriptive technique (maybe there's a word for this I don't know) where he'll say something like, "it wasn't true what they said twenty years later at the Tabard Inn about his liking the homemade donuts or feeling...
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>>8132656
Finish the fucking book before you start these retarded thread
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>>8132663
Yeah that's fair - just think I'll forget by the time I finish in ten years.
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>>8132656

He uses the motif a lot, but there's a lot more to the book than "lol everything's fake". Read more of the book, you pleb.

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Want to buy an e-reader. What are you using and would you recommend it?
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>>8132244
> filthy carpet
> books just chucked into the corner of the room
> filthy shoe by books
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>>8132244
Kindle paperwhite
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>>8133269
This. Paperwhite is amazing.

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ITT: Your favorite illustrations
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>>8132186
Tenniel in the Alice books
EH Shepard in the Pooh books

original and best
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Dore's
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William Steig's illustrations for Listen, Little Man!

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