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"The eroticization of the gaze is virtually coextensive with the ideology of the gendered body."

"The eroticization of praxis replays (in parodic form) the fantasy of linguistic transparency."

"The fiction of normative value(s) is virtually coextensive with the engendering of power/knowledge."

"The culture of desire is always already participating in the invention of pedagogical institutions."

http://writing-program.uchicago.edu/toys/randomsentence/write-sentence.htm
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I don't know, but he talks like a fucking robot
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Continental philosophy in a nutshell. Never forget Sokal.
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>putting phenomenological jargon in there

Hey that's not fair. They were AGAINST the poststructuralists.

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Lit, I actually want to read a book that I find compelling. Every time I pick something up I feel like I've already experienced the deeper emotions, and I get bored with it. I already experienced so much heavy thoughts and shit, I often feel like the people who are talking to me aren't presenting me any new ideas. The only thing that seems new to me anymore sometimes is the constant stream of useless trivial data that gets added to my memory. The only thing that seems to keep me from getting bored is music, art, and challenging philosophical questions. I've thought...
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>>8187927
My diary t b h
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>>8187927

What do you read OP?

You could try uh, making a friend, getting a job, or picking up a new sport.

That, or visit r/iamverysmart.
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>>8187927
Ez b8

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Before you call me pleb, I just would like to take a minute and have a serious discussion about the importance of reading classical works in a post-modern era.

As a fan contemporary lit, including modernism and post-modernism, I find myself reluctant to read classic works such as those by Homer, Dante, or even Shakespeare for the simple reason that I believe the ideas, ideals, themes and concepts concerning their material is somewhat dated. Now, I'm not completely ignorant to the fact I may learn something or get anything in general of value from these texts, I'm...
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>>8187772
Homer and Dante are historical memes

Shakespeare transcends all eras, read him and you'd know that you fucking pleb
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because being an instrumentalist is the saddest fucking thing to be.
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>>8187772
Because a rich enjoyment of a text isn't just in its reading but also in coming to explain an understanding of it, we've had traditions of literary interpretation for Homer dating back thousands of years while some random post-modern author you pick up will be lucky to have a couple of blogs talking about him.

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Well, this might sound strange, but, I'm currently working on an audio play which ends with the main character writing a suicide note.

So, any tips on writing suicide notes? Actually, any kind of advice would help.
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watch Krapp's Last Tape, read Last Letters from Montmartre, Psychosis 4:48 and Hamlet and King Lear.

It depends on your character's mental state and circumstance, but if he does it successfully I would avoid conspicuous despair. Make it, tonally, resolute.
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There's currently a suicide note in 8ch's suicide board, I would recommend reading those. Pretty bitter though, I don't know if that's the tone you're looking for.
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>>8187777
thanks for the fast reply, I forgot to mention that the main character is a war hero.

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who chained them in the cave in the first place
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>>8187679
They did. They chained themselves in the cave because they sought to minimize their suffering. Even today, when information and discussion is literally available to anybody, people are willfully ignorant or disregard the harsher realities and truths of life.
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it's a metaphor
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The muse of memes.

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are novels written more for the layman or the academic? how important is an english degree/education to "get" joyce, delillo, pynchon, etc.?
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Both.
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What kind of autistic question is this? Do you think every novel ever written has the same intended audience? Kill yourself my man.
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>>8187561
why?

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>It's an Ishmael drones on about how much of an expert he is on whales and how ignorant the rest of the world is chapter
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>it's another reference to Jonah
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>>8187517

>It's a judge the 19th century knowledge of cetology, as demonstrated in Moby Dick, by 21st century standards thread
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>>8187517
>It's a surface level understanding of literature thread

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Can we have an international /lit/ thread? Here we can ask and talk about books in another languages.

As a Spanish speaker, I give you La casa de los espĂ­ritus by Isabel Allende.
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Any Dutchies here that can recommend me a book in their language?
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My mom reads Isabel Allende, dude.
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>>8187504
>Isabel Allende

Literally YA

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The classic Penguin Books cover layout is the objective best general form of cover designs ever made. Prove me wrong /lit/.

(You can't)
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Idk but I just got the Penguin Deluxe Gravity's Rainbow and it's one of my favorite covers and spines.
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No picture on the cover though. So plain. I like the older penguin classics and penguin modern classics with the black or green spines where the cover art covered the whole cover and didn't have the black and white bands. Pelicans are also really cool looking.
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>>8187445

but Vintage Contemporaries exist.

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Does anyone ever look for these when buying their 2nd hand books?

Or is it more of an (un)pleasant surprise?

Sometimes they can be pretty interesting. I always wonder what sort of people write these things, and to whom - if anyone. Perhaps they add them specifically for the purpose of selling/donating them to 2nd hand bookshops, for future readers; I've never done it, personally.
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>>8187264

>2016
>Being poor

Sorry, I buy all my books brand new.
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>>8187264

Nice handwriting, shame it was used to write platitudes.
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>>8187286

>paying 3 or 4 times the price for an object that is identical in function and serves no aesthetic purpose that you probably won't read and throw away/sell at the end of the year anyway

You're more likely to be poor, rich people don't throw away money and stay rich

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What are the very best science books if I want to understand consciousness, the nature of the universe, and paradoxes? Essentially, the limits of our understanding?
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The Emperor's
New Mind by Roger Penrose is a good start.
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>>8187261
that book is pretty dated.
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>>8187261
>>8187343
not to mention he's a fucking hack

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>the exception that proves the rule

Can someone here explain the logic behind this fucking phrase?
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>>8186920
Proves here doesn't mean mathematically or logically. Proves is an old word for the raising of dough and the baking process. The same use of the word in "proof of the pudding is in the eating."

Exception that proves the rule means something like: that one fact that is at odds with the rule but helps (im)prove it and strengthen it.
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Usually wouldn't recommend wikipedia but this article is thorough af
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exception_that_proves_the_rule
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There's no exception without a rule.

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Friendly reminder that if you don't have significant writing experience before the age of 25 your potential will always be neutered because of your untrained, aplastic brain. Get crackin
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>>8186826
>pseudo-science
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Friendly reminder that if you don't have significant sexual experience before the age of 25 your potential will always be neutered because of your untrained, aplastic brain. Get crack-a-lackin.
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>>8186831
sorry your ship sailed m8, maybe if you try really hard you can become a second-rate author.

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There isn't one up, so allow me to be an idiot and post my horrible bookshelf. A lot of the fiction I'm getting rid of (IE John Green).
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I see books but no shelf hhhhmmmmmmmm..
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are you mixing pleb shit with good shit just to trigger us
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>>8187242
I hide all my books underneath my coffee table

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This was the last Pynchon I had left to read. I was worried it would leave me disappointed but I ended up thoroughly enjoying it. It's made me go back and re-read inherent vice.

So what is the animosity towards it? It's not Pynchon-lite either, the narrative at times is as difficult or even more so than the most demanding passages in GR.

If anyone has put off reading it because they fear disappointment or a waste of time I urge you to give it a shot if you enjoy Pynchon.
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>>8186709

I need to re-read Vineland along with Inherent Vice but I basically consider them spiritual sequels or two sides of the same coin, Inherent Vice I enjoyed a lot more considering I thought it was clearer and less dense than Vineland but both are still fun novels.
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>>8186742
For sure. I really hope he puts out atleast one more novel.
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>>8186709
Probably comes from Harold Bloom hating it and claiming it wasn't even written by Pynchon. Salman Rushdie liked it but it could be because Pynchon supported him when he had his fatwa/hiding thing going on.

I'm of the opinion that there's no consensus among Pynchon fans as to which is his best novel.

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