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That's it, narrative poetry thread (verse novel and stuff like that included). Post your favorites and give advice, please.
Eugene Onegin.
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>>8199131
>asking for advice without giving any
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>>8199158
>Giving advice without having any.
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>>8199183
>asking for something with nothing to exchange
fucking pleb bum.

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Well, this was shit. Did Zweig write anything worth reading?
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>>8199037
I think his works require being more than aware of his time and context.
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>>8199150
I did go through the introduction twice over as well as his Wikipedia entry but this still isn't a good work. I know Chess Story and Post Office Girl are far more famous, and I am hoping they're better. They'd have to be far, far better than his muddle to justify the reputation he seems to have had, and does have at the moment.
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Chess Story is great and you can read it in a matter of hours. Very engrossing.

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Post whatever, no actual quality needed. But don't feel afraid to tell someone what they wrote is shit either.

Post your writing:

-Brick-

The man was a brick. He sat on a road and waited for someone to come by and throw him. When the day finally came, he realized that he did not want to be thrown, and he promptly became beset with a deep and agonizing burst of realization.. He had lived his life to be thrown, but he did not want to be thrown. He just wanted to continue being a brick, right there by the side of the road, waiting for people to step on him to their fancy. He was comfortable right there on the ground, even though he was literally being stepped on, he did not see to become elevated, to become thrown.

Soaring throw the air he did not feel liberated, he did not feel freed, he just felt longing. He knew he had left behind the most comfortable spot imaginable. He had become one with that spot for such a time that their spots were so lent to one another, that no spot would ever caress the brick the same way that the prior spot had.
He landed with a thud upon the dirt and knew that the worst of it was over. But after a moment he realized that the worst of it was upon him, and it would never leave him.
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Last night I dreamed I was a ghost and father too and we danced together for hours without having to worry about the rising prices of soy nor the increasing umbrella-related accidents during rain season.
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gliding through life with the holy spirit gazing at the night sky with pale light reflecting from the moon continually guiding through the lapses of awareness while thinking of what it means to have a thought, sink into your bed as you lie as you relax, make a story to live with in the night when you begin to remove your mask, that reflection in the dark, the vague lights behind your eyes, it is late, the sounds creep in between being asleep and being awake
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>>8198839
>literally

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I was recently FORCED this pile of garbage. I'm an advanced reader and it was a relatively short, easy to swallow book but it took me FOREVER TO READ IT. because it was THAT FUCKING BORING. It's about this stupid snot of a kid whose parents are getting divorced (mom and dad broke up! boo-hoo :'( i'm scarred for life now!) and somehow his plane goes down in the wilderness of Canada (which I can admit is the scariest fucking thing I can possibly think of. I'd rather be faced with the zombie apocalypse or a gang of mass murdering rapists than being stuck...
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g8 b8 m8
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Books women will never understand
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His name was Gary Paulsen.

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Where I can study spanish grammar (my native language) online?
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>>8198435
Why online instead of a solid reference book that will cost €10?
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>>8198449
I'm a visual learner.
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>>8198459
...autism

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Do you guys have any resources to share when it comes to writing? Help the ones who didn't go to college for this out.


>inb4 just read
Alright, which books would be the most effective to read in order to improve my writing?

I personally don't have much but here's one that I liked
http://writingcenter.fas.harvard.edu/pages/tips-grammar-punctuation-and-style
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OP I've wasted so much goddamn money on writing books when all it really came down to were these:
The First Five Pages & The Plot Thickens by Noah Lukeman. This guy had seen so many shitty manuscripts, he got fed up and wrote these two guides. The first is about the big do's and don'ts, and the best way to present a completed manuscript. The second is more in-depths and makes you dig a lot at what you're writing.

Now as for prose itself, the essential book is The Elements of Style. The latest edition will do. Good luck with your writing anon.
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>>8198402
I found a copy of the First Five Pages and the fourth edition of The Elements of Style (i just used the library genesis)

If you have a link to The Plot Thickens that would be greatly appreciated

Anyways, thanks for the recommendations, this is the type of stuff I've been looking for. I wish you luck in your writing as well
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>>8198379
I don't think "resources" (or even going to college) are going to help you.

The art of writing is entirely self-taught, through reading a lot of quality books.

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http://thepointmag.com/2015/criticism/when-nothing-is-cool

"I’ve encountered two types of people who are having trouble adapting to the field. First, there are those who bridle at the left-political conformity of English and who voice complaints familiar from the culture wars. But a second group suffers from a malaise without a name; socialization to the discipline has left them with unaccountable feelings of confusion, inhibition and loss."

>inb4 not literature
>what are essays
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that was a good article, i read it when it came out. it's true, a lot of literary criticism these days is basically anti-human. but in niche-ier fields, like medievalist literature, you can spot enthusiasm that shines. it'll pass.
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>>8198108
by abolishing anime
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Govern with an alternative to both capitalism and socialism.

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Does lit like this books?
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>>8198080
I, no fucking joke, read the entirety of Atlas Shrugged in third grade. Every day after school I would come home and read like forty something pages. A lot of it was boring and way above my third grade head, but there was some really hype shit in that book. Secret civilizations, government conspiracies, lots of sex and real fucking pirates. God it was so rad. Honestly some of the most fun I've ever had reading a book.

I tried to re-read it again as an adult and it wasn't nearly as fun, but whatever.
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>>8198080
I liked the old meme trilogy better.
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>>8198080
atlas shrugged always felt like it was never edited to me. like rand wrote a first draft and was like "yeah, that should do it".
i'm not saying "urgh tl;dr, but it was repetitive and superfluous in a lot of places.

i actually enjoyed fountainhead better even though i think it's a worse book. i could get a stronger grip on the characters, i think.

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How do you start on something so ambitions? I've written poems and narrative essays before, but those seem like child's play compared to writing an entire novel.

How much time spent on research? How thorough should notes be before drafting begins? Yikes.

I know some of you have done it before, so I'd really appreciate some guidance. I've been sitting on an idea, which includes a MCs, setting, and themes that I'd like to flesh out into long-form. Any idiot can have an idea, though, and this idiot wants to make something good.
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>>8198069
>How much time spent on research?

do this when you need to

>How thorough should notes be before drafting begins?

'notes' are a distraction. having an outline of the general idea is sufficient. just write.

> this idiot wants to make something good.

write well.
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>>8198113
Nah, unless you're writing some shitty fantasy novel, don't do worldbuilding before writing.

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GET HYPE PSEUDS
www.openculture.com/freeaudiobooks


Since only 30% of /lit/ actually reads and the rest just shitposts, I thought you would like to listen to books instead. So turn off the iggy azalea, and the mackrelmore and REV UP THOSE HEADPHONES
for some good ol' books and shit

>been trying to listen to the brothers Karamazov because the print is too small in my edition.
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>>8197985
are you listening to it in russian?
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>>8197985
>The Veldt (Read by Stephen Colbert)

Neat.
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>>8197998
IN ENGRISH. the russian is probably coded with russian orthodox subliminals to make me travel to st. petersburg during my 30's. fuck that shit.

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Does writing a novel make one pretentious?
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>>8197954
Well, I suppose it depends on the content of the novel. If the content is sincere, no. If not, yes. Pretty simple stuff.
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>>8198047
Also it why one is doing it. Is it a genuine expression of self? Or is it a pretense for other people or an image one thinks one should embody?
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If you're a fucking pleb, then yes. If you have to ask, then yes.

Don't waste your own and everyone elses time.

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Question for non native english speakers.

Do you read your books in english (if that's their original language) or do you prefer translations if they're avaliable?
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I usually buy whatever is available.

If there are two versions, one on its original language (english) or a translation on spanish, I buy the original.
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>>8197905
I prefere to read them in english regardless.
But i will choose my native language if it's closer to the language being translated.
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>>8197905
English. Now with e-readers there's no excuse to read a translation.

i havent read since high school but felt like doing it

reading notes from underground, i really dont see much connection between part 1 and part 2... is there supposed to be one or am i just dumb and missing it entirely?
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>>8197821
In terms of 1:1 things, ie, things he talks about in part 1 come back in part 2, no, there's no connection. however, the stuff he does in part 2 is pretty consistent with the ideas of part 1; he wouldn't have done the things he did in part 2 if he wasn't sick and spiteful
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>>8197821
>i havent read since high school but felt like doing it
That's not how it works. You can't just pick a book up and read it.

I'd recommend you find yourself a book on how to read efficiently and practically.
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>>8197857
>I'd recommend you find yourself a book on how to read

How is your property doing /lit/?

Mine is not working to the correct end; it is defective. Any advice?
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>>8197818
we speak English here, faglord
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>>8197818
Are you actually retarded?
""""Your"""" property?
You can't even prove to me that you exist and you claim to have property?
Shut up, my property.
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>>8197818
>>8199118

Stirnerfagging is getting cringier every day. It's a trivial philosophy, and amounts to nothing more than disguised teenage nihilism, wrapped up in new terminology to smokescreen its lameness.

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Could you recommend me some books about anarchy? Not just anarchy, but mainly anarchism. I plan on writing a novel set in an anarchist world.
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The Dispossessed is a novel set in an anarchist world. so that, i guess.
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too much trouble going to wikipedia?
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>>8197828
>"why the fuck would I read a book? Theres a synthesis of it in the internet!"
>"philosophy? Pff, goodreads.com posts some great quotes everyday"
>"fuck Aristotles and his perfect society, theres a wikipedia article about utopias"

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