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>be me
>about to finish 6th Form (I'm 17, at the time)
>total virgin, with a love of all things Gothic, 2edgy4u, and Genre
>writing my very first novel - a kind of "Southwest" (Britain) Gothic affair
>actually pretty proud of it - decaying seaside resorts and pronounced class sensibilities all up in this bitch
>show it to a couple of my friends at school, who pull that whole...
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omg what a faggot
>>6152139
Gay
>>6152139
you fucked up when you changed your own life to chase after somebody else
never do that
i've only ever seen friends get stranded when it inevitably fails
What lines by Shakespeare have you memorized to quote in front of insolent multitudes to appear intellectuozy.
>>6141694
The to be or not to be one, honestly.
My favorite is the "And measure still for measure" speech
remember back in the days when niggas had ways etc etc
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What's a Honey Badger?
guess his grandkids showed him an elderly meme
old fucking faggots die
>>6142678
a meme animal created by memevolution
Share all of your Booklists.
list of books by david foster wallace that are good:
I've come to a point where I feel my grasp of political theory is tenuous at best, and highly warped by American news media. Does /lit/ have any books to recommend for a history of political theory and or books about specific ideologies? By biggest confusion is the difference between the American left and the rest of the world's left. I ask here instead of /ppl/ because I know I'll at least get a better discussion that doesn't devolve into a Mein Kampf discussion thread.
You've read Leviathan, right?
>>6114415
>by should be my
>/ppl/ should be /pol/
Sorry for my phones autocorrect
you know what to do next, friend
What does lit think about moby dick?
a tremendous work with incredible depth that rivals the very oceans that moby dick swam in
>>6117590
I just started my /lit/ journey so take from it what you will.
I like it so far, yet he goes on rants about the most boring shit and it just becomes dense and a drag to read.
You'll probably get a thread full or replies how you should read for prose and how gr8 it is.
Not bad though
>>6117609
Some of the best prose in the English language, but the depth of the work is just as important of a reason to read it. You probably won't get it without having read a lot of philosophy.
Dear /lit/
I've been reading philosophy for 6 or 7 years now, some years more than other, however today ive decided to follow the advice: start with the greeks.
I have read most of the big philosophers partially, some more than other, but now I want them to read in the order academia reads them, so I can get more out of it.
Can you provide me with some links, how to start with this project?
Or is there someone who studies philosophy here which can give me a overview of the order in which he read them?
>>6092117
Damn, what philosophy 'have' you been reading then?
Anyway, skip the pre-socratics (>inb4hate) then:
Plato - Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Meno, Phaedo, The Republic
Aristotle - Nichomachean Ethics, Politics, Physics, Metaphysics
>>6092150
>skipping the presocratics
>no Symposium
>no Timaeus
>no Phaedrus
pure plebeology
>>6092150
>Anyway, skip the pre-socratics
FUCK YOU
Without Heraclitus, Parmenides, Pythogoreans, and Sophists you won't understand where Plato's coming from.
Pre-socratics are important to read precisely because all our philosophy is based on Plato and Aristotle and not on them. They're a blind spot for most people. Even Aristotle didn't understand the Ionians anymore.
>2015
>still defending this fat fuck
Shiggy diggy
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/30/george-rr-martin-the-winds-of-winter-publication
>>6073192
"there are no plans for the much-anticipated latest volume from his A Song of Ice and Fire series to appear in 2015. Instead, readers will have to comfort themselves with an illustrated edition of three previously anthologised novellas set in the world of Westeros."
What a cunt. It's because he is involved with the TV show, and that takes up most of his time. Remember, prior to this he wasn't famous, just some fat guy shitting out fantasy crap in his basement. So between the first few books...
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In the wait for ADWD I already lost most of my interest in the series; by now I am completely over it. I wonder how many other original fans of the series' tastes have changed similarly in this last decade or so.
Are there any novels that promote the nuclear family, fitness, beauty, strength, etc.. as desirable virtues? And associate ugliness with evil? Like LOTR?
Seems like all we get now are books with selfish protagonists. Stories about moral relativism, apathy, fat acceptance and how to kill yourself painlessly. What happened to old european virtues?
>>6053570
>What happened to old european virtues?
Pretentious MGTOW fags like you.
>>6053575
>nuclear family
>MGTOW
derp derp
>>6053570
oh hey, it's my girlfriend
ITT: create "pill" characters and reading lists
>>6021277
>>6021282
You will never drag us down to the abyssal regions where /pol/ resides, OP.
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A professor stood before his philosophy class and had some items in front of him.
When the class began, he wordlessly picked up a very large and empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with golf balls.
He then asked the students if the jar was full.
They agreed that it was...
The professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the jar. He shook the jar lightly.
The pebbles rolled into the open areas between the golf balls.
He then asked the students again if the jar was full.
They agreed it was...
The professor next picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar.
Of course, the sand filled up everything else.
He asked once more if the jar was full.
The students responded with a unanimous 'yes.'
The professor then produced two Beers from under the table and poured the entire contents into the jar effectively filling the empty space between the sand.
The students laughed...
'Now,' said the professor as the laughter subsided, 'I want you to recognize that this jar represents your life.
The golf balls are the important things---your family, your children, your health, your friends and your favorite passions---and if everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still be full.
The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your house and your car.
The sand is everything else---the small stuff.
'If you put the sand into the jar first,' he continued, 'there is no room for the pebbles or the golf balls.
The same goes for life.
If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff you will never have room for the things that are important to you.
Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness.
Spend time with your children.
Spend time with your parents.
Visit with grandparents.
Take time to get medical checkups.
Take your spouse out to dinner.
Play another 18...
There will always be time to clean the house and fix the disposal.
Take care of the golf balls first---the things that really matter.
Set your priorities.
The rest is just sand.
One of the students raised her hand and inquired what the Beer represented.
The professor smiled and said, 'I'm glad you asked.'
The beer just shows you that no matter how full your life may seem, there's always room for a couple of beers with a friend.
A young Canadian soldier was attending some college courses between assignments. He had also just completed a mission in Afghanistan.
One of the courses had a professor who was a vowed atheist. One day the professor shocked the class when he came in. He looked to the ceiling and flatly stated, 'God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes.'
The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop.
Ten minutes went by and the professor proclaimed, 'Here I am God. I'm still waiting.'
It...
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Gee thanks for forwarding this email my way Grandpa!
Capitalist economic theory seems pretty accessible, seeing as it's taught in schools and found in the business section of the local newspaper. It's pretty easy to be familiar with the models and theories, the curves and graphs and efficiency and all that.
I've long found myself agreeing with radical left critiques of capitalism (wage labour being bad, inequality being bad, corporate control of political decision-making, etc), but have been hesitant to move from progressive welfare liberalism to socialism because, unlike capitalist theory, which consists...
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If you want to get into Socialism, read the Communist Manifesto if you haven't already. Socialism is a lower form or Communism. That will give you the most correct foundation. You need the philosophical foundation to give meaning to the economics.
From there I recommend reading Socialism: Utopian and Scientific. And finally Das Kapital (or just Capital, depending on your version) for the actual marxist economics.
Hypothetically you could skip Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, but Das Capital is not a beginners text (assuming you are a beginner). You can...
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>>6029172
I'm assuming he has already read The Wealth of Nations and Das Kapital if he's making a thread on economics, because if not, he's retarded.
>>6029187
Most "casual" Marxists, and specifically Social Marxists (whom I dislike) generally haven't read any of the texts. Just pick it up listening to others. So at this point I have low expectations. But any interest in reading the texts is a great thing and should be nurtured
So, I was wondering what some good books are that give an overview of movements in the philosophy of science. I only have a very general understanding about how positivism was critiqued and killed by Popper and the postpositivists, because verificationism leads to the problem of induction and all that.
However, being a student of the social sciences, I encounter a lot of fellow students critiquing "positivism" not on these terms, but with these postmodern/post-structuralists positions critical of the stance that authoritative belief comes from reason or empirical...
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>>6028815
Oh well, you should look into the 'Positivismusstreit' the dispute between Popper and the Frankfurt School. The argument isn't that no objective truth exists, but that you can't observe society from a point of view that is neutral and unbiased, as you're part of it, and your research has a legitimizing function. Therefore, Sociology can't be done like a natural science.
A good cheap text is Barker + Kitcher's "philosophy of science"
>>6028815
While I find most charges of "scientism" just a vague snarl term used as a thought-terminating cliche to shut down any lack of automatic acceptance of nebulous, unfalsifiable claims, I do see what I would call "scientism" arising from scientists who seem not to understand philosophy, such as some of the "New Atheists" and pop scientists like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, who proclaim that "science has killed philosophy" and absurdities of that kind, without realizing that science is an...
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What are some good introductory texts to feminist theory?
>Inb4 "go back to Tumblr"
It's okay to read about things whether you agree with them or not, Anons.
Here is my list of books I intend to look at. What do you think of it? What should I add? Subtract?
>The Female Eunuch
>Sex and Destiny: The Politics of Human Fertility
>The Whole Woman
>The Dialectic of Sex: The Case for Feminist Revolution
The...
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>>6029456
I've only read a handful of those, but I like "Three Guineas" by Virginia Woolf, which is a very well-written introduction to a lot of feminist ideas.
When I was a child I read the book in OP's pic. One of the characters turned into a starfish and it got cut in half and both halves turned back into human and then one was evil and threatened to kill the character and maybe even her dog I think.
I cried and told my mother and should said I shouldn't be reading animorphs. The next day I was fine and I still cringe when I think about it.
>>6029681
That actually sounds fucking terrifying why the fuck would they put that in a kids' book
>>6029462
I'll check that out. Only Woolf I've read is "A Room of Her Own." Seems more suitable to the context of the time she wrote it in, though I can see how it's applicable to today, to some extent (lots of studies are showing that achievement gaps between sexes are influenced by socialization and learning environments, and how the "stereotype threat" has an effect and all that jazz).
I want to transition from anime to literature because anime sucks.
My favorite anime is Evangelion, please give me some recommendations.
You're asking what the Evangelion of literature is?
>>5997350
I just want something that fits my taste, I don't know a shit about literature
Be more specific OP and then maybe we can help.
