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Has anyone read this? Thoughts?
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>>7437478
>spirituality without religion
Most spooky thing ive seen all day
If you do not believe in god you cannot believe in morality
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>>7437718
>If you do not believe in god you cannot believe in morality
>believe in morality

What? This is the silliest thing I've read in days. Do explain.
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>>7437755
There is no basis for morality outside the metaphorical or social contract.
Source: the whole history of law.

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So after getting into his films, I want to read some of his work, but I'm pretty clueless where to start.

So /lit/, if you had to had to name three books as an intro to Beckett, which ones would they be?

Also, general discussion of his work no matter which medium is welcome of course.
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Just watch Waiting for Godot on Youtube and then reference it forever and wait for other people to reference it so you can wink at them ;)

Beckett is for fucking tryhard plebs
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>So /lit/, if you had to had to name three books as an intro to Beckett, which ones would they be?

Complete plays, Molloy, The Unnameable.

Kind of a cheat, but you really need a lot of stuff. Beckett is pretty dense sometimes so it looks weird but you get what he's doing.

Read "First Love", it's a short story but it's very representative of everything Beckett does. For plays, try Krapp's Last Tape, Godot, Endgame, Play (I really like the Minghella version). For prose, just read the trilogy, Molloy,...
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>>7437100
>If you want to impress people

This is pretty much the only reason anyone reads fictional shit.

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How do I into Cormac McCarthy?
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the road -> no country > blood meridian -> sutree

skipping no country is acceptable
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>>7436570
Skip both The Road and No Country. Read anything except those, actually.
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>>7436570
Cool, I finished Child of God the other day and I hear great things about Blood Meridian, but it also sounds more complex than his later work

>>7436576
Why do you say that?

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What are your favourite 'intellectual' podcasts /lit/?

In Our Time, and Hardcore History are for sure the GOATs.
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> Hardcore History
I dunno that one just kinda sounds like hanging out with your drunk nerdy gen x uncle, who's testosterone levels have finally dropped low enough and whose alcoholism has finally deteriorated his vitality enough that he just wants to ramble about military history with pent up emotions implying that he wished he were there instead of sitting there worried about whether he can afford a new deck.

...I have no point to make
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>>7436327
>...I have no point to make

Indeed you don't
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>>7436337
errr wait I was gonna suggest that calling him GOAT is a bit like inviting that drunk uncle to give a symposium at Harvard; he could maybe pull it off but 2bh I doubt even he thinks he belongs there, much less anyone else.

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What are some good books about music? Preferably regarding theory and/or history, but anything about music is okay.
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K-on.
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>>7435734
mann's Doctor Faustus might be just what you're looking for.
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>>7435734
Not really relevant to music theory, but The Birth of Tragedy has some really interesting statements about music and art as a whole.

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I've been reading 'The Decline of the West' by Oswald Spengler and 'The Ever-Present Origin' by Jean Gebser and I'm finding them both incredibly profound in terms of scope and vision. Can anybody here recommend any other books or authors that are similarly amazing.
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Capital by Karl Marx. The Ego and Its Own by Max Stirner. The Subspace Emissary's Worlds Conquest.
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>>7435126
bait

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Opinions on Richard Dawkin's books and writing style? (Avoid The God Delusion, as that's probably one of his worst books.)

In addition: How many supreme court justices does it take to be on the wrong side of history?
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He's not a writer, and it shows.
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>>7434949
I do think he's a pretty good teacher on the other hand. He simplified evolutionary biology very well in "The Greatest Show on Earth".
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>>7434960
Oh, definitely. His passion is commendable as well, especially at his age. His writings need only be eloquent enough to be easily understood, which I think they are.

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What's the dumbest opinion you've ever seen someone post on /lit/?
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>>7434164
"Muh spooks etc"
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>>7434164
time doesn't exist.
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>>7434194
prove time exists

>Recommendations:
>Fantasy
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/4chanlit/images/a/a8/1307836551252.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110612005642

>Sci-Fi
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/4chanlit/images/a/a6/Scifilit.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100710233344
http://imgur.com/r55ODlL

>What you readin?
>What's your favorite religion from SF and Fantasy?
>What's your favorite work...
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>>7401096
nice try faggot i saw you post this on /mu/ you'll carry that shame with you for the rest of your life
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>>7401096
I just started Dune. All's good so far the pose isn't great. I struggle to take Sci-Fi seriously, but it still has my interest.
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>>7401096
Again with these shit lists

I have finished, just this dawn, Abercrombie's Half a War, and it's his usual fare - characterization through endless grimacing and posturing of characters, ansamble cast large enough so you can play several 'who dies next' games, stronk womyn, blackhearted rogues etc. Funny thing is, it seems he's trying to avoid stereotypes with small predictable tweaks.

Not the worst he's written, but far cry from good. Better than Martin's take on the Vikings that's for sure.

...

Again with those grimaces. Everyone pouts, winks, nods, scrubs beard, nods respectfully towards you... it's like watching R-rated Dreamworks flick, you constantly think about everyone making stupid faces. Still, those sketches are better characters than China Mieville could ever write.

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What the fuck is social ecology? Help me understand Bookchin's ideology please, I really don't know where to start here. His works are unclear and I don't understand them. Maybe because I am retarded but everything is so convoluted and quite frankly, boring.
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>>7442109
notice the guy in the back doing the same thing but twice, i wonder if it spread like a yawn.
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>social
1.relating to society or its organization.
2.needing companionship and therefore best suited to living in communities.
>ecology
Ecology (from Greek: οἶkος, "house"; -λογία, "study of") is the scientific analysis and study of interactions among organisms and their environment. It is an interdisciplinary field that includes biology and Earth science.
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>>7442122

It's not that simple. I'm talking about the political ideology.

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Was Candide a revolutionary work for the time that it was published in? It seems to me that the whole notion of ending up in the Garden doing labour to sustain yourself is the antithesis to the story of Adam and Eve, where God revoked them from the Garden, a place where they didn't have to work and everything was handed to them on a silver platter like the privileged degenerates they were.

Help me develop my thoughts /lit/
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Candide was a troll book written to prove how stupid a popular (philosophical?) theory at the time was.
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>>7442079

Nice bait
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>>7442081
>Candide is characterised by its sarcastic tone as well as by its erratic, fantastical and fast-moving plot. A picaresque novel with a story similar to that of a more serious Bildungsroman, it parodies many adventure and romance clichés, the struggles of which are caricatured in a tone that is mordantly matter-of-fact. Still, the events discussed are often based on historical happenings, such as the Seven Years' War and the 1755 Lisbon earthquake.[8] As philosophers of Voltaire's day...
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Why is every popular science / philosophy figure a neuroscientist? Are they just gobbling up the easy pickings before the physicists and mathematicians put the subject out of reach forever?
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>>7442020
they're not
Dawkins is an evolutionary biologist
Hawking is a theoretical physicist
Tyson is a cosmologist
Prof Steve Jones is a geneticist
Al-Khalili is a theoretical physicist
Cox is a physicist

the only one who is a neuroscientist is Sam Harris. given this board's obsession with him, there's no surprise he's the only one you can think of to include in "every". but you really need to read more.
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OP: Mention at least 3 neuroscientists. Fuck it, mention 1 other then Sam Harris
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>>7442083
Dan Dennett.

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Hi /lit/. What's on your Christmas list. What should I get an aspiring writer?
>seasons greetings from /fit/
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>>7441982
Mine is:
>The Divine Comedy
>Kafka short stories
>Paradise Lost
>Ulysses
>The Recognitions
>Some Pynchon novels I don't already own
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Bump. Help me out guys.
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Tristam Shandy, a backup hard-drive, and some records.

Best things for a writer are good pens and a good notebook. It's crucial to write down any observations or thought that may pop into your head before they lose their original wording or quality. Also, if you're into this sort of thing, a typewriter is a neat thing to have. I know that they're a hipster meme, but as long as you don't lug one to the nearest cafe they're fun to use and (in my experience) are an enjoyable alternative to handwriting or typing into Word and staring at a screen.

Happy...
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>The first, iconic sentence (“riverrun, past Eve and Adam’s, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs”) takes up three lines in Chinese but requires 17 lines of footnotes. The challenge began with the very first word: “riverrun.”

>“I have to explain every word, as well as the cultural background and the alternative meanings,” she said.

>“For example ‘riverrun’ could be ‘the river ran,’...
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It's nice that I now understand the first word of the book, doubt I'll ever understand the rest.
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Finnegans Wake in Chinese
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>the first print run of 8,000 copies sold out within two months.
>they fell for the meme

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>this guy got more pussy than you

Where do I start, with him?
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>this guy got more pussy than you

false and irrelevant, also the greeks
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It was all unconfident pussy so I don't know if it's worth it. However for prose, Ham on Rye. Poetry, The Roominghouse Madrigals.
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>>7441653
>Ham on Rye
>Post Office
>Factotum
>Women
>Hollywood
>Pulp

The sequence is not important, but this way is better, is a really good timeline.
Just don't start with Pulp or Hollywood, because it is more like resolutions of his life.

>>7441668
>false...
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