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What is the difference between good literature and bad literature?
Why Ulysses is, objectively, a better work than Ready Player One?

Can the quality of a literary piece be judge after a short time of its creation - like literary critics do-? Or do we consider the quality of a literary work in relation to its influence?
Can be great and non-influential literary works?
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>>7466921

>Can the quality of a literary piece be judge after a short time of its creation - like literary critics do-? Or do we consider the quality of a literary work in relation to its influence?
>Can be great and non-influential literary works?

All of the above.
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>>7466921
Literature is gay.
You homo?
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>>7467563
You lost?

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What is the best work to get introduced Haruki Murakami's stuff?
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After Dark if you want to read something short and sweet, a taster for the meatier novels he's written.

Norwegian Wood, in my opinion his best work, isn't filled to the brim with the absurd and is probably the best start.
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Sputnik Sweetheart if you want Murakami experience but don't wanna commit to doorstopper.

The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle is both one of its best and good intro. Kafka on the Shore is alright alternative.

Norwegian Wood is good read but it lacks all the surreal stuff he is known for but yeah somehow it's a really good starter. It's the book that made him famous after all.

Hardboiled Wonderland is again pretty different since it has almost noir/sci-fi/horror elements but it's without a doubt in his top 3. (With Wind-up and Dance Dance Dance)
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dumpster diving for dummies

"...[in] the end, I had hoped that all that had remained after the ordeal was only the sound. The sound...and the fury."

bravo willie
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>>7466846
Kek.
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>>7466846
"the sound" is said a billion times
You're not funny
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>>7467093
You're not funny

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Was he autistic?
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>>7466638
holy shit that actually makes sense
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>>7466647
no
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je pense qu'il était un sociopathe

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Hello darkness, my old friend....
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I'd buy the fuck out of that Goosebumps collection though.
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>>7466653
there is a torrent of it
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>>7466485
my parents bought me an adult colouring book for my birthday

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>The Spoils Of Poynton
>Dry
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>The Sound and the Fury
>incest
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>fellowship
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>The Stranger
>absurd

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I just bought pic related. Have I made a mistake?
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>>7466263

judging by the MS-paint cover, yes
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>>7466263
Yes: you have made a horrible, horrible mistake. Don't even read it: it will do more harm than good.
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>>7466307
elaborate
>>7466304
i'm assuming you don't know who piero scaruffi is

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why does this hunter quote stick with me

and how much of it is simply rose tinted glasses about that era?
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>>7466234

I like that quote, but I think it speaks more to Hunter's ability to define himself against the backdrop of that era than it does of the time itself

It sounds like rose-tinted glasses because it was the time when he made most sense as a person, so it's not so much about saying "hey, this era was objectively great" as it is about saying "this is the context in which I could subjectively view myself as a part of something"
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>>7466234
Dat last paragraph tho.
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>>7466234
>>7466234
The sixties LSD counterculture was attempting something extremely ambitious. If you read up on the leaders of the psychedelic movement, this doesn't sound like rose-tinted glasses at all, because there WAS an optimistic, earnest attempt to roll back the weak points in contemporary life, and it would have felt amazing to be part of that attempt, but it did fail, and Thompson doesn't defend its methods and leaders. There's another passage in...
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>tfw a great idea for a novel finally comes to you in a dream
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>tfw a great idea for a dream finally comes to you in a novel
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>great idea for a novel comes to you in a dream
>try to write the entire dream down
>read it out
>it's an incoherent rambling mess

Every single time.
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>tfw a novel comes to you in a novel

>Preferring paperbacks
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>>7465913
>having a preference
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>>7465943
>thinking
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>>7466055
>being

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Many philosophers and literary critics are Jewish. Has Jewish theology indirectly influenced much modern academia?
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>indirectly
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>>>/pol/
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>>7465842
I can think about sources of philosophy in Kabbalah studies, the way it gives texts another relief and how it influenced philosophy (i.e. hermeneutics), but I don't know if we can say it "simply" has it source in Jewish theology. Things seem more complicated than this... There are a lot of works presenting modern Occident as it "thinks itself" as being at the confluence of Athens and Jerusalem, that may be a track to follow. (While keeping in mind that "presenting itself as something"...
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Let's guess shakespeare plays

>be me
>be thane
>meet 3 mad bitches
>tell me ill be king
>kill some guys
>become king
>plan backfires
>get killed
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macbeth
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Macbeth. That was too easy.
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>be me
>kill a lot of people
>it backfires

There, now I've summarized all the plays

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Who are some obscure pessimist writers / philosophers worth reading?

I assume people of this disposition are more likely to be ignored and overlooked but I'd like to read more than Schopenhauer, Zappfe, Ligotti and so on.

I count Houellebecq as a pessimist writer, and also H.P. Lovecraft.
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>>7465654
Cioran, perhaps?
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>>7465654
Nietzsche

>inb4 plebs say nietzche wasn't a pessimist
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>>7465654
Celine

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Okay /lit/. Let's talk about One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Any opinions at all. If you have read One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest get in here.
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>>7465430
May I have my cigarettes, please, Miss Ratched? Miss Ratched!
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it was good

super american though and the actual theme is super annoying and stereotypical ameriburger thinking (INDIVIDUALISM! HEROIM! FREEEEEEEEDOMMMM! FUCK THE MAN!!!), but it was done in a way that made you actually like the characters
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It is a good book.

Fishing scene is 10x better in the book.

The moment when Chief catches a glimpse of Randall in the rearview mirror, haggard and tired, is the beginning of the end.

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“It is from the bystanders (who are in the vast majority) that we receive the propaganda that life is not worth living, that life is drudgery, that the ambitions of youth must he laid aside for a life which is but a painful wait for death. These are the ones who squeeze what excitement they can from life out of the imaginations and experiences of others through books and movies. These are the insignificant and forgotten men who preach conformity because it is all they know. These are the men who dream at night of what could have been, but who wake at dawn to take their places...
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>taking life lessons on the worthiness of living from someone who shot himself in the head
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>mfw i'm getting more and more open to the thought of suicide even when my "life" seems to be getting more "promising". It almost seems god-damn logical.
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>>7465062
>Favourite books of his?
I smiled.

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