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I was floored by this novel. There is so much in it that someone who solely knows of the pop culture icon of "Frankenstein's monster" would never know. I was particularly shocked to find that Frankenstein's monster isn't a grunting beast. He is ugly, but he is actually the novel's most eloquent and tragic character. Viktor Frankenstein wasn't a mad scientist. He was a brilliant young man who gained the power of a God, yet unlike God, he was selfish and didn't consider the well-being of his creation. There's a lot more to discuss....
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Maybe the book is a metaphor for the transformative power of pop culture.
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Robert de Niro and Kenneth Branagh made a movie in the 90s that was easily the best adaptation of the novel. De Niro is standard De Niro, but more squinty and touches his mole more. Branagh is the comfirmed bachelor who cheats on his partner a lot.

If I remember right, the movie as a whole is....reddit at best, but I remember the leads being whores towards their emotions.
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>>7571695
What does "Reddit at best" exactly mean?

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What /lit/-related things are you going to do today?

>tfw going to start editing the first draft of the third installment of my memoir
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wake up read ~50 pages of recreational book

going to go to English classes

going to do assigned readings

going to do more recreational reading

going to do 1 hour minimum of writing
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Work on my research project and then read miscellaneous material.
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>>7571529
Pretend that I have read the book someone is talking about and shit post in their thread.

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is calling out fallacies a legitimate argumentative tactic in debate or just a cop out for people who aren't intelligent enough to articulate a response?

is this even /lit/ related?

its pretty stupid going on other boards seeing people yelling "STRAWMAN STRAWMAN" and 90% of the time it isn't even a strawman.
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>>7571488
>is calling out fallacies a legitimate argumentative tactic in debate
Not if it's not an actual fallacy, which, as you pointed out, isn't normally the case.
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>>7571524
*is
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>>7571488
>is calling out fallacies a legitimate argumentative tactic in debate
No, it isn't. If you identify a fallacy, you should attack the fallacious argument, not just squawk "ad hom" over and over. Or just keep piling them on; if your opponent calls you a faggot for wanting to make homo marriage legal, call him a murderer for being in favor of abortion. Whatever floats your boat.

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Has there been many writers who have changed their styles many times and managed to do it well?
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Rest in peace.
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Who the fuck is David Bowie?
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>>7571251
How do you know it's David Bowie?

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discuss
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>>7571073
I liked The Idiot and Demons better than Brothers K. I think it's because everyone hyped it up so much.
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What's wrong with dune?
Yeah it's kinda overrated but it's damn good.
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>>7571073
Harper Lee is a top 5 author of all time.

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You know what I didn't like about this novel? They made Lot's wife out to be a good character, unjustly punished.

This is the reason for sjws (oh, don't forget your brethren) and suggests that compassion is so beautiful--and now lefties are ascribing that attribute to Jesus and think that acting with this attitude is the highest virtue when it 1. is fucking annoying and 2. holds them back from personal advancement.

If we followed his ideology, we'd all be throwing shit at each other.
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You have a coherent argument against sjws, but you do not have a coherent argument against lot's wife. How the hell is turning around in what was most likely meant to be seen as an attempt to help sodom and gomorrah "annoying?" Are you saying that compassion is objectively bad? Because I'd have to disagree there.

Tbh you sound like you're very angry at the type of people who enjoy vonnegut and are unable to put that aside and actually read his work.
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>>7571029
oh god u read vonnegut
may I recommend Dr.Seuss and perhaps Mary Pope Osborne?

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Which is the best order to read Nietszche in? Should I even bother at all?

I can choose between The Anti Christ, Ecce Homo, Twilight Of The Idols, Nietszche contra Wagner, Hammer of the Gods, Human, all too human and Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
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the anti-christ goes ham
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>>7570745
start with the greeks
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more importantly what would one read prior to one reading nietzsche to fully appreciate the work one nietzsche performed prior to ones existence

mustache pls answr

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Alright lit/tards, I need your help with critiquing an idea of mine. Everyone I've asked tells me this idea is fine, but I need an outside opinion to help me flesh it out. And I know all too well that 4chan is the best place for honest opinions.

Okay, so I've been working on a horror novel for the past two years that is somewhat of a retelling of Frankenstein. I am just now getting to the second draft of the novel, and I want to work out a few details with the story.

In essence, the story follows a woman who was brutally raped by her older brother, causing...
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>>7570614
don't do the dream creature thing. Things in dreams have been done with Lovecraft countless times. it's an old idea that's pretty boring.
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>>7570614
Wow. No. You've never experienced any one of the real world things, and I doubt you have the creativity to convey them. I can't believe you actually told people about that in real life, you autistic Dick
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>>7570753
Well, I was hoping for constructive criticism, but deconstructive works, too. Please elaborate on your words so that I may tweak the design a bit.

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>the girls were laughing because of OP's pervasive slip into the passive voice.
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People with creative writing and/or English degrees always tell you that passive voice is bad, but then you see the same people write sentences like '"this is some dialogue" said someone'. Now there's still a subject, ok, but isn't it still close to passive voice shitty to not front load the subject? English goes subject-verb-object, so why do "good" writers write like that? wrote a guy on the internet.
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The passive/active distinction is total bullshit, and I'm speaking as someone who is constantly sperging out about semi-colons and past/future tenses.
Active voice wont make you shit writing exciting, and it does not make amazing writing dull. It does not pull you out of the tone or flow of a work and its not in poor form like repeating words constantly in poor analogies in a poor display of poor grammar.

He posted quite autistically, indeed.
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Why is female laughter so devastating to a man's ego?

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Best books on Economics?

I'm interested in both 'Left' and 'Right wing' perspectives.

Thank-you
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The Worldly Philosophers by Some Old Patrish Dude
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>pseudoscience
Jes read Infinite Jest insted
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>>7570474
Wow, that's off topic, but coincidentally I've already read Infinite Jest. It was pretty good, so thanks for the recommendation anyhow.

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>rejection letter from the literary agency

Well shit. I mean, at least they get back to me, but damn, this stings.
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That Jamaican guy who won the Man Booker prize last year had his first novel get rejected 70 times. Or maybe 70 times was Ayn Rand's first novel, I ca't remember, but anyway, his first novel got rejected a lot.
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>tfw the rejection letter says your work shows you're mentally unstable and that you should seek professional help
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2016 will be THE year, OP. Just keep at it. We're all gonna make it, brehs.

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What was the story about?

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Hello /lit/,

Not knowing where else to go or who else to turn to, I turn to you. As I have begun my second year at university and with the creation of the title of "sophomore" as I so readily and excitingly call myself, I have also begun to address my depression. At first it wasn't much, I passed it off with a wave. But that wave was solemn because I knew that it would be back to visit me soon. I acknowledged its departure in vain. Soon its visits to me began to increase in ferocity and repetitiveness. So too did my visits to my doctor. I have started treatment...
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>>7570275

Stop talking like that. You're a sophomore in 2016. Stop it. You're a kid. Be a kid.
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If this vapid thesaurus of a shitpost was the best you could do, you should probably just end it all.
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>>7570285
Thanks bra

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>start writing a short story based off some character or scenario
>it evolves into a way-too-ambitious exploration of questions I have no sort of answer to

every fucking time
anyone else have trouble keeping works small? i feel like my work is always unfinished unless I dig deeper into the material and it reaches a point where the whole thing just becomes confused and unfinishable
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>>7569769
Yep, I usually come up with some idea in an attempt to create something short and quickly-digestible only to see it better fit into a much longer narrative. As far as your problem goes, I would say not every question needs to be answered.
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This happens because you don't have a goal with the narrative. Have a goal, make all the questions go around the final, that is the presentation of the "big theme".

Like >>7569797 said, nor all of the questions have to be answered, but the end, what you want to say with the story has to leave to the reader some evidences about the things that you showed. Let them do the equation.
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>>7569769
You don't have to answer the questions raised by the story. You can bring the central premise to a close and leave the questions open

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Hey /lit/ can anyone recommend a book for me that is like American Psycho? I loved the book and all the aspects of it but am sad that it is ended and want something to fill that hole in my reads.
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just go to BEE's twitter feed. he never shuts up on there
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>>7569714
Start with his other fiction. Glamorama and The Informers are his best besides that one. If you're just looking for something as visceral and fucked up, Blood Meridian. Something very fucked up that has a similar sense of humor and deranged pathology would be Naked Lunch. Now that I think it over, those two books actually have quite a bit in common.
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>>7570443

The Talented Mr Ripley perhaps?

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Look at picrelated. There it is. Your chance to enlighten the plebeians, possibly spark the artistic fervour inside someone who may not know their potential. Convince Frances that she's wrong! Write as if your comment will be publicly seen on facebook under your own name.
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>>7569575
She already too lost to be saved.
If you're that set in your point of view, there is no convincing you.
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>>7569582

"Ewwww, "The Egotist", you're so creepy, lol! No wonder you don't talk in class!"
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>>7569593
Is there a point to this comment?
I'll admit I'm lazy and it isn't impossible to convince anyone.
But the chances of succeeding are low enough with a person like in OP's related for it to not be worth it.

It's a lot like choosing your friends. Sure you could try to be friends with everyone. But some people aren't worth the effort.
Most actually, but that bit is an opinion.

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