How do I tell the difference between genuinely good prose and masturbatory purple prose?
Listen to this song I wrote on the matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNSrP-REuJY
If you're published and something of a household name it's the former, if it's creative writing class it's the latter
>>7585081
i just determine if i'm enjoying what i'm reading or not. it's not hard.
Hey /lit/
I was talking to a fellow academic the other day and he mentioned this place. He mentioned that the colloquial term for a well-read and intelligent individual here is a so-called "patrician",
I said it sounded pretty neat, and then I asked "so I suppose they've all read Leopardi then?" He sort of stood there wide-eyed for a minute before staring at his feet and mumbling something about "meme core" (?). I reminded him that every intelligent person worthy of being labelled a "patrician" has read Zibaldone, otherwise...
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I think Zibaldone is standard on most /lit/ starter kits
>>7585039
>determining patricianhood based on one book
DYEL? Sound like a weak wristed couple of faggots to me. Did you lick his taint afterwards?
The only patricians are /lit/fit/.
>>7585066
stfu nerd
Would you do a major in Hitler studies (BA) at College-on-the-Hill?
inb4 delillo hate
i think many people here would succeed in a position Jack was in
Yes but I'd drop out to become an artist.
has there ever been an example in any genre of literature, where a male protagonist falls so deeply in love with an unobtainable female that he obsesses over her and starts to "see" her personality and traits in other women?
i don't know if this particular trope has a name, but i'm just trying to articulate an idea i've been thinking of to just see if it's been done before.
>>7584518
>malkovich!
>>7584518
The Collector
Can I get a Derrida reading guide /lit/?
>>7584196
Please anyone?
Start with the SEP: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/derrida/
>>7584223
Thank you.
Should I try to teach myself creative writing the "proper" way or just read a metric fuckton and try to learn that way?I am a NEET who will kill himself if he doesn't write something he's happy with soon so I have plenty of time for either I just was wondering which you think is better
>>7584165
What is the proper way? And why not both?
>>7584169
>What is the proper way
I don't know that's why I made this thread
>And why not both?
I don't know, see above
I'm mainly just asking what works for you m8
>>7584174
He meant what are you referring to when you ask if you should learn the "proper" way?
Writing a lot is the most important part. Getting honest feedback from other people is the other most important part. Also read a lot.
If you can find a good teacher that will help too but the other things are necessary.
Thoughts?
>>7584114
didn't bother to read all of it
is it basically zizek?
i read the coming insurrection
>>7584114
Haven't gotten around to it yet. Skimmed a little bit though and it seemed like the kind of wankery I would enjoy
>>7584114
Read it an loved it.
It has nice prose, even if it is a bit gaudy at times. The analysis focusses more on the geography of domination than in the first volume, and it has really neat insight on the concept of networks.
Would recommand!
I need some secondary sources about Critique of pure reason. Especially video, that treats the matter more approfonditely.
Also, Kant general I guess.
I bump this thread
>>7584081
Allison's Kant's Transcendental Idealism is very popular. From there, you've got Guyer's work and Langton's Kantian Humility.
>>7584123
thanks.
anyone has some video recommendations?
>"He walked out in the gray light and stood and he saw for a brief moment the absolute truth of the world. The cold relentless circling of the intestate earth. Darkness implacable. The blind dogs of the sun in their running. The crushing black vacuum of the universe. And somewhere two hunted animals trembling like ground-foxes in their cover. Borrowed time and borrowed world and borrowed eyes with which to sorrow it."
How does he do it /lit/? How does he wield his description with such paralyzing accuracy? I feel like Cormac McCarthy...
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>piss away, boys
>>7584066
You haven't read enough brah
Why was he so right?
>>7584051
because of mescaline.
>>7584051
dude
weed
lmao
>>7584057
Elaborate please. I don't believe that he smoked weed, just cigarettes in his younger days.
When to tackle the holy GOAT?
What to read beforehand?
START
>>7583929
Elaborate on your comment "START"
These are the very rough essentials imo. There's more but it all depends on how much you want to read beforehand I guess
Old Testament
The Iliad
Beowulf, Song of Roland, etc.
Don Quixote
A good chunk of Shakespeare
Dostoyevsky
Flaubert
Stendhal
Proust
Joyce
What traits define literary genius? In my opinion, literary geniuses are people with acute observational skills, a powerful ability to introspect, and a heightened sensitivity to human emotions. (Of course, there will be outliers that fuck up this definition, but I overall think it's relatively accurate) What does /lit think?
>>7583921
i think it involves having a vast vision of being human which is independent of historical circumstances and then developing language to capture it, bending and forcing language in new ways in the process
don't see it discussed on /lit
thoughts, thinking of picking it up even though it costs like 30€ where im at
>don't see it discussed on /lit
is u srs nigga
>>7583920
>reading translations
>>7583925
granted i'm not here all the time but you'd think for every 2665 infinite jest posts i'd come across one about 2666
Has anyone here written a piece of dialogue or a joke that sounds brilliant when read but sounds terrible when actually said out loud?
Can anyone else relate?
>>7583898
my diary desu
>>7583898
Basically everything I do
Anything I think always sounds good to me but then ends up horribly wrong as soon as I share it
>>7583969
Maybe try reading it out loud prior to sharing
How do I get into linguistics, /lit/?
>>7583768
by quiting anime
Get an introductory linguistics textbook.
Living Language - Ahearn for a basic Intro to sociolinguistics/some linguistic theory
Language Files for intro to syntax/morphology and the like