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Approved readings of your favorite pieces?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhzNTSMBlag
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>>7617989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhW0TrzWGmI
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>>7617989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kBMDYUb0RY

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What did you think /lit/?
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Nothing.
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>>7617978
It was pretty lame honestly. I bought it years ago thinking it'd be an awesome perspective to see the collapse of Yugoslavia from but instead I got an Englishman going on about how he would go from heroin to silvovitz throughout the week.

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I want to major in L A cultural studies but have no idea what readings to do
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the one about the knife fighting gauchos
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nippon connection
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Why would you do such a retarded thing, goddamned faggot.
Anyway, abouty country:
some history books. Dunno, Felix Luna, Mitre, Pigna. Your choice
Martin Fierro, by Jose Hernandez
El matadero, Echeverria
Facundo by Sarmiento
Recuerdos de Provincia, Sarmiento

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ITT: Favorite books thread
>Girl With the Dragon Tatoo
>Hichhikers Guide
>Harry Potter
>11/12/63

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>>7617780
>those choices

you don't belong here. Go back to reddit, kid. This place is for intellectuals and your women-tier Oprah's book-club style plebieanism is embarrassing.

My favorites:
>Infinite Jest
>Gravity's Rainbow
>Lolita
>Brothers Karamazov

Those are intellectual choices, for ACTUAL patricians
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>>7617794
It doesn't matter if you are being ironic or sincere: you are still pathetic.
My favorites:
A Frolic of his Own
The Recognitions
The Tunnel
The Lime Twig
Ulysses
Cannonball
Mason & Dixon
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No Longer Human
A Confederacy of Dunces
Lolita
Last Exit To Brooklyn
Stoner
Crime and Punishment

Bonus: I would choose the accident that kills me only

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What is /lit/'s opinion regarding ex libris?
Do you have one?

inb4: kindlefags
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>>7617304
I swear half of my books have someones in it, but that's what you get when you buy used. one man I know has his as a basic stamp that reminds me of collectors seals in china. I might do something like that so my books stop getting "borrowed" but i have a ingrained tendency to not do things like that as my grandfather is a book collector. still 80% of my library is used so its not like anythings in mint condition anyways.

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How would you rank Steinbeck's works, /lit/?
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>>7617300
Fucking GOAT American /lit/

Anyone who disagrees is a faggot and can fight me irl
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>>7617305
Yeah his works are good for an American
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above hemingway, about even with kerouac

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Who will play him in the inevitable biopic?
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I'm trying to think of someone ugly enough. Maybe I could give it a shot.
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>>7616629
Javier Bardem.
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Michael Cera

What are some essential pieces of literature with an "epic" scope? I want to get lost in a story with huge proportions. Currently reading murakamis Wind Up Bird Chronicle (new to reading for fun) and I love how big it feels, I guess. Any suggestions?
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obviously the fUCKING ILIAD AND ODYSSEY YOU DIP

also Genesis and Exodus and Daniel
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>>7616475
Of course, epic poetry is a given. I'm more looking for novels that just have a wide scope but aren't considered an epic technically.
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The Rainbow and Women in Love cover multiple generations of a family.

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Hi /lit/. Tonight I will be hanging out and drinking with some classmates from uni. I probably won't get laid, so I predict I will get tired after some hours and I'll read for a while sitting on the street before I go home. The question is: what of these books should I start?
>Under the Volcano
>Canterbury Tales
>Fathers and Sons (Turgenev)
>Dubliners (my first Joyce)
>Some short tales by Conrad
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Mind yourself just to get hammered tonight, Anon.
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>>7616386
If you're going to be hammered, read Joyce or Lowry
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>>7616453
The idea is gettin drunk enough to be high without throwin up

Going to my first fiction workshop at a uni near me. What do you guys think of workshops? Not like an MFA, just a mix of people. Stories?
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Get ready for some softball shit from the twitter kids pretending to have read your story and actual genuine critiques from the few serious writers in the class
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>>7616102
I couldnt imagine a less fun thing to do, unless it was with some masterful modern author (read pulitzer or man booker award winning).
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>>7616102

when critiquing, consider that you might get laid if you are flattering

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What philosophers/philosophical works should I read before I'm allowed to move about freely within philosophy?
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>>7615000
Depends how you define 'freely.' The list of essentials for "I just wanna read Nietzsche, Heidegger, Arendt, Wittgenstein, etc." (aka majors) is so much different than "I want to be able to read the latest philosophy publications."

Furthermore, it also depends on what kind of philosophy you're looking to read. For example I'm can move pretty freely within the continental tradition, but analytic? Forget about it.
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>>7615000
start with the greeks
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>>7615010
If you can move freely within continental literature, shouldn't you be able to read analytic? As continental philosophy only exists in the context of analytic philosophy.

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>Sam Harris must pay for his crimes. We will send him to the gulag, and every night he will be brutally raped and so on, and we execute him on his birthday with all the old Foucauldian, you know tie his hands and feet to horses and so on you know

What did he mean by this?
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He usually doesn't end with you know
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Derty jokes
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Drawn and quartered. Very much like his philosophy, he delineates, draws it out, and it's worth a 1967 United States quarter-dollar.

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I want to learn all about Communism and Socialism.

What's a good reading order? I don't know what to read after the Communist Manifesto.
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>>7614269
what about just skipping this juvenile phase that will be embarrassing in 12-18 months and reading some good literature?
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Engineers of the Soul
It's a study of soviet literature and engineering project. What more could a man want?
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/lit/ isn't the place to discuss politics senpai

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What does /lit/ think?

>Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men who have whooped them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant, in this field as in all others. His culture is based on the phrase "I am not too sure."
HL Menken by the way.
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You can doubt current values with moral certainty i.e. Abolitionist
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>>7612699
Yeah, I know and I think that in some ways that kind of mentality, one of intractable certainty, in any subject is a negative character trait. One that forces an inability to understand counter arguments.
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>>7612637
I think I agree with the sentiment at large, but I take issue with notions of any cultural inferiority. It implies that one man can be more civil, or more cultured than another, which I disagree with.

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How do so many people miss the point of this? You don't need to read Chernyshevsky's What Is To Be Done? to understand it, but I'm beginning to think a lot of people should. People seem to think the Underground Man is some sort of caricature of /r9k/ types, when in fact he isn't because he's the one who is making his life into the caricature...that is, he is willfully and consciously pathetic, he isn't pathetic because he tries to be "literary", he tries to be "literary" because it is pathetic. That is why he intentionally ruins his very "literary" opportunity with the qt, because if he didn't ruin it, then he would cease to be pathetic. The entire point is being pathetic and foolish and doing what is against one's interests, is sometimes precisely what is in one's own interests. It's not about the lifestyle of the Underground Man, it's about the affirmation of the Underground Man: he is going against his own interests precisely because it is against his own interests, and the feeling of freedom this engenders is more valuable to him than anything else.

To quote a passage from The Way of the Pilgrim

>It happens that I myself was once a witness of a similar case. Near our village there is a very deep and steep-sided ravine, not very wide, but some seventy feet or more in depth. It is quite frightening to look down to the gloomy bottom of it. A sort of footbridge has been built over it. A peasant in my parish, a family man and very respectable, suddenly, for no reason, was taken with an irresistible desire to throw himself from this little bridge into that deep ravine. He fought against the idea and resisted the impulse for a whole week. In the end, he could hold himself back no longer. He got up early, rushed off, and jumped into the abyss. They soon heard his groans and with great difficulty pulled him out of the pit with his legs broken. When he was asked the reason for his fall, he answered that although he was now feeling a great deal of pain, yet he was calm in spirit, that he had carried out the irresistible desire which had worried him so for a whole week, and that he had been ready to risk his life to gratify his wish.

Dostoevsky's premise, his philosophy here, is driven by the Trinity, the one essence is preceded by the foundation of the three existences (the Greek word for existence, generally translated as "person" in relation to the Trinity, literally means the foundation of something). The Underground Man has existence but is in a struggle to find his essence. And he intentionally afflicts himself with the most irrational essence there is, as an expression of existentialist freedom. Dostoevsky isn't saying to live like that or not live like that, these ideas would defeat the whole point of the story.

Also, here is an Orthodox reading list and FAQ for atheists, Catholics, Jews, etc.: http://pastebin.com/bN1ujq2x
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>he puts this much effort into a second-rate author
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>>7608603

Thank you fellow sinner for the reading list and things to think about. Agree that the Underground Man is widely misunderstood.
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>>7608609
God bless, may love and mercy follow you everywhere.

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