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For non-native English speaker, anyone else feel like their writing is getting worse and worse? Couple of weeks ago I was churning out Hemingway's shit. Now it's just plain shit. What do?
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fuck it, bump. Also, is this OCD?
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My english get worse and worse every time I get back into browsing imageboards, especially krautchan.

So get off any imageboards and read more, it'll get better I guess.

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Hello friends, can any of you recommend some audiobooks for my daily commute? I appreciate it.
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shit thread

find a book, get the audio.

faggot

i don't know, brief interviews for fuck's sake
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>>7633102
The Lost City of Z, by David Grainn

Super interesting.
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>>7633102
History of Philosophy without any faps

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It is the greatest masterpiece of the symbolists, however I have found only a few posts about it.
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I can't read french yet you dope
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It has translations though
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>>7632696
>greatest masterpiece of the symbolists
>masterpiece of the symbolists
>symbolists
>SYMBOLISTS

You haven't read it, have you?

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>and then he said he read a prose translation of the Illiad
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>mfw someone's first exposure to the Iliad isn't a recitation in the original language
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>>7632193
>she misspells iliad
>she didn't read it off the manuscript
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>hse doesn't have at least one member of the Homer collective as an astral penpal

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Are there any ethicians who portray murder as essentially a victimless crime?
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No because then it would just be killing a person and not murder.
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>>7631652
What do you consider the difference between killing and murder?
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>>7631674

You do know there's a difference between Murder, Homicide, and Manslaughter, right?

I can't tell if you guys genuinely enjoy 'experimental' fiction or if you just really like three-inch thick novels because they are like a fun puzzle or video game to be defeated (and I suspect most of you are comfortable with long length because you were raised on big fantasy tomes) but what if you guys read every one of these novels before posting yet again about Pynchon, Nabokov, Wallace, or Joyce. what if that happened?

John Hawkes: The Lime Twig, Blood Oranges
Italo Calvino: Invisible Cities
Joy Williams: The Changeling
David Markson: Wittgenstein's Mistress
Donald Barthelme: Sixty Stories
Valeria Luiselli: Story of My Teeth
Alexandra Kleeman: You Too Can Have a Body Like Mine
Malcolm Lowry: Under the Volcano
Samuel Beckett: Molloy trilogy
George Saunders: Civilwarland in Bad Decline, Pastoralia
Nicolson Baker: Room Temperature, A Box of Matches
Kobo Abe: Woman in the Dunes, The Face of Another, Kangaroo Notebook, The Box Man
Don DeLillo: The Body Artist

I didn't love every one of these books (see below) but they were all memorable. Here are some popular recommendations that I personally didn't enjoy:

William Gass-Omensetter's Luck: I'm not a fan of lyrical prose (Faulkner) or historical fiction. It wasn't bad tho, i guess.
George Saunders-the story collections above: his stories felt like the creation of a very bored person. they were weird in a great way and felt human, but he neglects tone in favor of voice (esp. in Civilwarland, in which every story is told in first person)
David Foster Wallce-Girl With Curious Hair: similar faults with this collection as George Saunders; both focus too much on satire and are devoid of consistent tone. Naming your first collection after the story which parodies another writer's style seems shitty. The 'Lost in the Funhouse' story just sucked imo. I'd rather just read his essays. I think Infinite Jest the only fiction DFW's that I've enjoyed.
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lurk more faggot
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>>7631254
Read the entire post, didn't see Tristram Shandy.

Fuck out of here, OP.
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>>7631287
yeah, tristram shandy defeated me almost instantly.

Does anybody collect editions of one book?

Have a friend from college who has over 30 different editions of The Master and Margarita.

What book do you have lots of editions of? Why that book?

Any suggestions on which book might make a good edition collection?
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>>7630348
Does he own this beauty?
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>>7630348
I have 5 copies of the Iliad and Odyssey (different translations)
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I collect English translations of Montaigne.

First I got a complete works but it was too big to read on the shitter (Montaigne is the best shitter book besides Aquinas) so I got a selected essays and then it just kind of went from there.

Can /lit/ help me with a school project? I need to create my own lovecraftian horror story but I have no ideas that are original. Can you guys shoot me some tips on horror or any ideas you might have? Thanks.
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Write a poem about the origin of
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>>7629296
Niggers
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write something about a horrifically large toe that serves to chillingly remind the flabbergasted protagonist, who is beyond words and description at that point, of just how small and remote he really is.

and toss in the word nigger somewhere.

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What are other books like Stoner? I personally thought, along with it seems a lot of people on this shitty board, that it was a really beautiful, well-crafted, emotional book. It really was a rare gem in the sea of masturbatory, "pls notice that I'm educated and clever," soulless or bullshitty books that are out there.
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A bit OOT, as I still have to read Stoner, but what you identify is exactly how I feel while skimming /lit/ critique threads goddammit. Why does everybody on here feels the need to write like that.
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Kinda obvious but check out his other two novels.
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>>7627969
I don't know what you mean by similar to stoner, but skylark (also published by nyrb) was very good in a simple way like stoner was. Besides some Hungarian history, which wasn't important to the plot, the book was simple to read while still very emotional.

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How are university /litt/ students? Are they relevant? Do they read and write? Or do they just show up to classes to get the grades?

I'm on my last semester and am afraid of what I might find in university; inspired poeple or plebs. I personally read and write, but I honestly hope the competition will be worth >6000$ out of my pockets.
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>>7630095
I graduated a year ago, majored in English.

It's on the whole dependent on the kind of school you go to. Mine was a liberal-leaning, arsty kind of department, so there were a lot of classes in more esoteric subjects.

The intro to creative writing courses werr essentially a workshop. But I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. There were some fantastic assigned readings (I've kept the books for my personal collection), but there were also a lot of students who were clearly still...
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>>7630107
> "fan fiction" phase
Yeah I get what you're saying, I have read a few myself and they just pick up popular scenarios
I'm thankful you're telling me they got weeded out, that means they changed course because they found it boring or too hard. Good thing.
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>>7630107
Same anon.

You'll also qickly learn that viewing your peers as "conpetition" is stupid. You're there to focus on becoming better writer, not publicly stroke your literary microdick.

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Round 3 of the Sharethreads

Bibliotik is currently on a freeleach for 20 more hours, so make a request (for things that aren't available elsewhere, like libgen or bookzz) and maybe someone can help you. If you have anything to share then feel free.

>>7613526
>>7582051
previous threads

Check 4ch.be (the warosu replacement) when either of those go down.

The previous thread had NYRB, Dalkey Archive, Pushkin...
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>>7621691
Thrice requesting Kinski Uncut - The Autobiography of Klaus Kinski

Requesting Flight of Lucifer by Bloom and his Anatomy of Influence, also Bloom's and Frye's books on Blake
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>>7621691
What can I freeleech that will eventually bolster my upload ratio after the 20 hours run their course? Or should I just seed anything?
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The Old Axolotl by Jacek Dukaj. Also, anything by Dukaj, preferably in epub or mobi. The rest is only avalible in Polish though (The Old Axolotl is translated to English).

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Gay, Rape and Incest Edition

Recommendations:
>Fantasy
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/4chanlit/images/a/a8/1307836551252.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110612005642

>Sci-Fi
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/4chanlit/images/a/a6/Scifilit.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100710233344
http://imgur.com/r55ODlL
http://imgur.com/A96mTQX

>What are you reading?
>What's your favorite story with a "gay, rape and incest" plot?
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>>7617349
Is High Fantasy dead? Other than Sanderson, I don't know anyone prominent who is writing it atm
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>>7617618
I-I am.
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>>7617618
Bakker
I guess that hack Esslemont is trying his best to make Malazan even worse

What book was it with the protagonist describing how he's living on some island in south Europe, fully aware that some arabs will soon enough come and fuck up his entire little Arcadia? And then in part II(?) or such they actually demolish the island bit by bit(I believe)

Released prior to 2015 for sure as I heard about it in 2014, but couldn't really bother researching more on it.
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bump. ;_;
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A history of Cyprus
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>>7633296
I always laugh at that pic

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What is it that makes genre fantasy silly and mythology literature not-silly?
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Spuks
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>>7633217
one is about trying to explain the world (obviously in a very naive world) and the other one is for people who can't handle the world.
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>>7633217
the mythology that has come down to us has been filtered by time
keeping a story around meant it had to be decent
even before something would be "kept" in a semi-static form, the stories would first be refined over hundreds of years, largely in oral form
so basically, they may have started just as shitty and silly as today's genre fantasy (a man tells a shitty story at a small feast) but they acquire not-silly characteristics by being forged over time
for example, there are various tellings...
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Hello $chan Literature, me again Father Dubs. What is your favorite passage in the Bible?
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>>7633159
The end bit where everything goes pear shaped
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>>7633161
I also a fan of that part. Thank you for posting in my thread.
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>>7633159
You just want someone to talk to.

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