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Literature for 400
>>7639256
What is daveposting?
>>7639256
Postmodernism
What is Holden raped Phoepe?
Reading pic related at the moment
> "... with great rapidity!"
> " ... it was indescribable!"
> fish lists
> fish lists
> fish lists
> fish lists
>>7638832
i just want to read it because the master read it
>>7639132
which master?
>>7639132
joyce?
There's parodies from the likes of John Betjeman and Ezra Pound, though mostly he just seems to never be talked about anymore compared to contemporaries likes Yeats.
Housman once discussed the rememberance of sublime verse during such mundane acts as shaving. The combination of words would cause goosepimples, such sincerity is grand and superior to such hack representatives as Nabakov. My appreciations for sincerity ultimately leads me to be thankful that writers such as Thomas Pynchon are so popular. Irony can only work within a sincere framework.
Favourite poem by Housman:
On the idle hill of summer,
Sleepy with the flow of streams,
Far I hear the steady drummer
Drumming like a noise in dreams.
Far and near...
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When I was one-and-twenty
I heard a wise man say,
“Give crowns and pounds and guineas
But not your heart away;
Give pearls away and rubies
But keep your fancy free.”
But I was one-and-twenty,
No use to talk to me.
When I was one-and-twenty
I heard him say again,
“The heart out of the bosom
Was never given in vain;
’Tis paid with sighs a plenty
And sold for endless rue.”
And I am two-and-twenty,
And oh, ’tis true, ’tis true.
And malt does more than Milton can
To justify God’s ways to man.
Ale, man, ale’s the stuff to drink
For fellows whom it hurts to think:
Look into the pewter pot
To see the world as the world’s not.
And faith, ’tis pleasant till ’tis past:
The mischief is that ’twill not last.
Oh I have been to Ludlow fair
And left my necktie God knows where, And carried half way home, or near,
Pints and quarts of Ludlow beer:
Then the world seemed none so bad,
And I myself a sterling lad;
And down in lovely muck I’ve lain,
Happy...
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The Thibaults: Anyone here ever read it? Is it worth it? I found pic related for a very reasonable price, should I get it? Also buying from the same store:
>The Count of Monte Cristo, Dumas
>Memórias Postumas de Brás Cubas, Assis
>A Christmas Carol, Dickens
>Heart of Darkness, Conrad
>Around the World in Eighty Days, Verne
All those, in brazil's currency: R$ 42,00 + R$ 35,00 from The Thibaults if I get it.
>>7637981
OP here, complementing: That is the cheapest book store (both physical and online) I have ever seen, and those are the most 'conceituated' literary works I found there.
>>7637981
Albert Camus liked it, so maybe.
>>7637981
Bras Cubas >Thibaults>Monte Cristo>HoD>>Christmas Carol>80 Days
I want to read something newish and you guys have good taste.
lol no we don't
>>7639673
David Foster Wallace - The Pale King (2011)
China Mieville - Embassytown (2011)
Jonathan Franzen - Purity (2015)
Harper Lee - Go Set a Watchman (2015)
Joyce Carol Oates - The Accursed (2013)
Thomas Pynchon - Bleeding Edge (2013)
Tao Lin - Taipei (2013)
>>7639673
Dallas, TX
How difficult are En Attendant Godot and L'Etranger for someone learning French?
What other works should I pick up?
>>7639356
Easy enough, the difficulty mainly resides in the meaning of the play. As a native, I would recommend it to someone like you that's learning.
Same goes for L'Etranger, it is a very simple work when it comes to prose, and you should have no problem understanding it if you have a decent level, except maybe the very last part.
Do not forget that both of these works are infamously easy to misinterpret
Bisoux
I loved this play until I saw it. Not this particular version, but, the one on YT.
>>7639363
how can I guide myself to grasp the intended meaning of both works so I avoid a misinterpretation?
Not op, rookie here.
What's your least favorite thing about your own writing? Or, what are some problems you need to work on with it?
>I use conjunctions like "but", "however", and "although" too much
I'm generally worried about not being creative enough. It's hard for me to judge.
Describe banal things too much
I have weak spatial and chronological control. I offer meaningless details relating to travel and vistas when the core of the narrative is interactions between people. Then when the interactions come, they go on word for word interminably, so the meaningless descriptive details in between become padding for overgrown dialogue sequences.
Then when I start cutting, the narrative seems rushed and super-intense when it should be leisurely.
ITT: Your (current?) favourite word.
>contrition
Quixotry
>>7637744
jawnz
Attrition
You have five second to find me a book where a self insert character is a good thing.
It's ok, I have a chair, so I will wait
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
>>7635230
Breakfast of Champions. Vonnegut mindfucks the fourth wall and it's pleasurable, not quite an insertion as you want, but still an insertion of his self.
Anna Karenina, the greatest novel of the 19th century, has a self-insert in the form of Levin.
Sell me on this book /lit/, tell me why i should try to read this gibberish
>>7640156
nah, don't read it. you wouldn't like it. try reading some stephen king.
>>7640163
I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
>that moment when you realize originality is a meme and you should focus on being a competent craftsperson instead
>>7640127
>the consolation of a follower
Originality is inimitability.
Thinking about original things is easy, putting into words so the others can recognize it is hard.
This poet said some very thought provoking things.. and made me wonder, who is really the crazy one here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9dU4sPjhDw
>>7640099
>Everyday until you love it.
>>7640099
the bitch talking to pidgeons.
>>7640099
I don't like this. I barely consider it worthwhile. Poetry is not about pretty well put words alone, its also about the content.
>"first time in my life I saw somebody homeless not realizing she's a nutjob with brain damaged with coke and booze since the 70s"
Writers of /lit/, I want you to perform an exercise.
I want you to thumb through your own writing, and pick a passage of about a paragraph or two. Then I want you to read it out loud to yourself.
Then I want you to post in this thread with your thoughts on how your writing sounds when read aloud.
Russ shook her head slowly. "Perhaps you'll regard this situation with the gravity it merits when those machines tear through the hull and pull your arms and legs off."
Tai's expression fell, but Elif wasn't having any of that. "Coming here was your idea, Russ."
Her head jerked back a fraction of an inch as if to get a better look at him. "I recall vigorously arguing against using the conduit."
Without a beat, Elif continued, "Which means you wanted us to argue for it, and to take the blame when it went sideways."...
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I'm not sure. Melancholy, certainly.
You tell me.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1A95cfNpTCz
The New Yorker, The Atlantic, or Harper's?
>>7638623
Ash it for pseudo-intellectual liberals
What's wrong with The Nation? The paper's too pulpy and doesn't have the glossy $8.99 feel of The New Yorker? Or is it too proletarian with all the articles about issues that affect the working class rather than elite transgender professors of racial studies etc.
>>7638694
never mind, i just looked at their website and two out of four headlining articles were about race...the neoliberal race distractors even got to The Nation, well fuck it, it's over man, capitalism not gonna be seriously challenged again ever
What's the best translation of the Iliad/Odyssey for the first read? Is the guide right in choosing Alexander Pope?
Also, does anyone know what translation the Penguin version in pic related is?
Get Fitzgerald or Lattimore if you're a LAD; Chapman if you a CHAP
THIS IS LITERALLY THE THIRD THREAD IN TWO DAYS
>translation
just thought i'd get this one out the way
