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Do you know of any novels that deal with American expansion and the communal sense of optimism that came with exploring and taming the West? Or the slow change in mentality when they reached the Pacific Ocean and there was nothing left to explore?
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das capital
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>>7656552
Little house on the prairie?
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>>7656552
That isn't really an accurate depiction of the American feeling at the time though.
It doesn't make sense at all.

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Lets talk about "New Sincerity". What do you think of the movement?
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v.uninspired desu
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Fruity
Sour
Zesty
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For all talks of sincerity it seems to still operate on the inescapable epistemological basis of post-modernism which necessarily begets working with and through irony. I feel like the true spectrum writers operate on nowadays isn't sincerity-irony but awareness, from the outsider savant to the hyper (self-)aware.

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What are some good books on either suicide or happiness (or the lack thereof), be it fiction or non-fiction.

I've heard nice things about Russell's book on happiness (the non-philosophy one where he just gives advice on happiness).

Something beyond Camus and Nietzsche (although if you're going to mention a specific work by the latter and not just mention his name go ahead) would be appreciated.

Also, don't recommend Seneca, Marcus, Epictetus or Epicurous.

Pic related, you can recommend him if you want.
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How rude of me, thanks in advance folks!
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>don't recommend Epicurus
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>>7656439
I don't catch you?

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I fucking hate this site. I had not internet by month, and only thing i was doing was reading books (neet here), and i really fealt better, i havent crying once since withdrawal. This feeling, when you see a "interesting thread", and you read it whole cause well you started reading it; and all those posts are so sad and pretentious and not interesting at all; always i end with this feeling of complete waste of time. Generaly most of internet seems likely depressing. Just - you know, so souless and boring. What are some books that will help me appreciate internet?
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legacy of totalitarianism in a tundra
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Probably any cyberpunk circa 1990-2005
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>>7656412
back to r/books with you

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Pic related is better than Infinite Jest.

RPO is a poorly written but nevertheless entertaining novel that manages to excite and enrapture its target audience with an endless litany of 80s references. It pretends to be nothing more and delivers on what it promises. The weak characters and blatant wish fulfillment is forgivable given the book is a paean to video game and "geek" culture, both of which are allowed to take center stage and amuse those for whom the book is intended.

Infinite Jest is the puerile, pseudo-intellectual howl of a man with no discernible talent. It speaks to a very particular experience - that of being an upper class white man from suburbia - in a nauseating and self-indulgent way. It even fails to accurately capture that existence, but instead substitutes it with a vapid and disingenuous image that appeals to what the presumed reader (an insufferable "philosophical, deep, and brooding" hipster who thinks himself an intellectual) wants to read.

RPO is more palatable since it makes no pretense of realism or insight, whereas Infinite Jest is buoyed entirely by that pretense while ultimately failing to deliver.
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>>7656376
No one on here takes Infinite Jest seriously anymore. It's Reddit-tier
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Go back to r/books faggot
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>>7656376

You just made the case for the two works being incomparable - and came to a comparative conclusion.

The books are too different for one to be objectively "better" than another.

All I know is that, having read both, I came out of the end of IJ feeling better, wholer and smarter as a person, when I finished RPO I felt like I had wasted my time reading it just so I could say truthfully that I had read it during arguments about how bad it was.

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I think prose is the most important part of a book. Sophisticated, well thought out prose can turn a bad book (with boring characters and bad plot) into a good book. Yet, you frequently see critics champion the prose of writers like John Williams, Ernest Hemingway, and late Don DeLillo. Why?
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Anyone? I don't get this.
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Because you're wrong.

Why don't you just write poems then.
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Sophisticated, well thought out prose does not necessarily mean complicated and challenging prose.

/thread

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Escribir, por ejemplo: "La noche está estrellada,
y tiritan, azules, los astros, a lo lejos".

El viento de la noche gira en el cielo y canta.

Puedo escribir los versos más tristes esta noche.
Yo la quise, y a veces ella también me quiso.

En las noches como ésta la tuve entre mis brazos.
La besé tantas veces bajo el cielo infinito.

Ella me quiso, a veces yo también la quería.
Cómo no haber amado sus grandes ojos fijos.

Puedo escribir los versos más tristes esta noche.
Pensar que no la tengo. Sentir que la...
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Vuelve a morirte, maricón comunista.
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I am familiar with the works of Pablo Neruda.
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>>7656351
Beautiful. Another one, anon:

>Error: Too many lines.

http://www.neruda.uchile.cl/obra/obranavyregresos2.html

Have we made a poetry starter kit? I feel like I've mainly seen prose guides in here.
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>>7656281
I have this saved from somewhere
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>>7656281
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The best advice is as follows:
1) Read a book on meter (Rhymes Reason, Ode Less Travelled)
2) Read an anthology (Bloom's, Norton's)
3) Read the works of those you like

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It's possible to self study by using the internet and internet resources and come with the same knowledge than a literature major graduate?

If so, I guess I can look up a top university like harvard and look up their curriculum.

I guess I could read Grammar, because that's a big one, but what else?

But how do I learn literary analisis and criticism?

Was planning on majoring on literature but right now I decided to major in software engineering because I like both majors, but one is better in terms of jobs.
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>It's possible to self study by using the internet and internet resources and come with the same knowledge than a literature major graduate?

it's not technically impossible but it's practically impossible for 99.999% of the population

everyone who says >paying money to read books or whatever who thinks you can get the same knowledge is retarded
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>>7656141
what are the hard subjects?

I guess literary analisis and those creative writing workshops can't be learned by using youtube.

I don't think the topics regarding literature history where you read an entire semester one autor or even one book are so usefull and require a professor to be there.
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>>7656137
Nursing pays better than accounting and business?

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>start with the Greeks
>not the Sumerians
have a go lads:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_literature
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I've been saying this.
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By ignoring the iron age you prove yourself to be a plebeian and committing a crime as well!
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What's necessary other than Gilgamesh? Western lit refrences the pantheon a lot more than Marduk.

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When you are old and grey and full of sleep,
And nodding by the fire, take down this book,
And slowly read, and dream of the soft look
Your eyes had once, and of their shadows deep;

How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true,
But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face;

And bending down beside the glowing bars,
Murmur, a little sadly, how Love fled
And paced upon the mountains overhead
And hid his face amid a crowd of stars.
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>>7655745
Stop trying to turn Yeats into a meme
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>lol old people suckkkkk
>lets hang out at the skatepark bros
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>>7655745
Am I dumb if I was unimpressed by this?

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Thoughts?
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that piss looks unhealthy
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>>7655684
Good job , now you have to put your hand into your own pee to throw that in the garbage just because you wanted to meme.
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>>7655684
>translations
Congrats. You are a patrician now.

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Look at this fuckin traitor guys.
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>pratchett
he can stay over there, and please.

Also I don't think /pol/ reads continental philosophy, I think they read the Daily Stormer and Elder Protocols of Zion, Turner Diaries, basically sister-fucking-pill books.
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What a pleb lol
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>>7655457
also why do people make the distinction between "reading for fun" and "reading"? If you find literature like Borges not-fun and Pratchett fun, you're a dilettante. Why would you even bother reading things you find "not fun"?

I guess that's why he likes Pratchett and asks /pol/ for books.

Which one of the brothers is your favourite, and why?
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Ivan Karamazov
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John
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>>7655370

When I read it Ivan, now it would be Aloysha

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http://www.newsweek.com/cormac-mccarthy-new-book-363027

>NEW CORMAC MCCARTHY BOOK, ‘THE PASSENGER,’ UNVEILED

>Other previous novels have subtly woven in science, but according to Krakauer The Passenger will place science in the foreground. “It's everywhere,” he says. Just as the author went through an “Appalachian phase” and a “Southwest phase”—the terms used by scholars to describe his early and middle works—Krakauer says the new book is going to be “full-blown Cormac 3.0—a mathematical...
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I mean I'll write it of course.
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lol, who cares nerd. This is an anime imageboard.
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>>7655324
>Other previous novels have subtly woven in science, but according to Krakauer The Passenger will place science in the foreground

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