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What makes for entire artistic mediums to be regarded as second citizens?

by that I mean writing for cartoons.

Why the stigma?

would you consider stuff like evangelion to be well written?
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I'm probably going to get shit on for this, but: Good writing can come from anywhere. Good fiction is good fiction my dude.

We learn the basics of story writing and literary technique in school, and if any form of creativity (story telling for example) has these present, executes them well and then attempts to differentiate itself, I'd consider it good writing.

The stigma is that often times cartoons DON'T have these things. They're funny and flashy and cheap and good for entertainment. That's what they're made for. If you watch a...
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>>7658225
I have watched lately stuff like South Park and the simpsons and It's clear the writers of those shows know their shit.
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>>7658233
Anon this is what I'm saying. WE recognize good writing. Even children do.

I went to go see The Good Dinosaur with my gf and obviously there were kids there. But at the end it had the kids crying and my gf crying and I was trying to pick apart the characters and themes.

The point I'm trying to make is: We recognize a well told story even if we're young. We need to be made to care about our characters, we want to know what they stand for and why they do it. The author wants to tell us something...
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>Eckhart Tolle is a fucking fraud.
Am I the only one who thinks this? This guy pretty much just copied a bunch of authors and kept saying the same thing over and over again in different ways: "live in the moment". And to make things even worse he added a bunch of new age bullshit, making his book simply ridiculous.
And look at WHO he is: "muh I am enlightened", yea sure buddy... it must be easy for you living in your huge mansion and driving your ferrari to be peaceful and calm. And plus, he charges money for people to...
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A self-help author writes books full of meaningless platitudes, more at 11.
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>>7657809

His delivery is just as much his message as the things he says.

I read on a tinfoil blog that he uses hypnosis techniques
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Lol I'd like you to point out this supposed new age bullshit you purport to be an expert of. You don't know what the fck you're talking about

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What's a word for when someone in a senior or more qualified position tolerates or reacts encouragingly towards someone else in an inferior or less knowledgable position?

Example: A child says he wants to fly to the moon and his mother nods and says "what a great idea!"

His desire is treated in a ________ way?

Superficially doesn't really say what I'm trying to say here.
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>>7657484
>encouraging
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>>7657494
Not what I'm looking for. It's more of a patronizing and superficial enthusiasm.
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>>7657498
Patronizing
Condescending
Talking down to someone

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I was hoping one of you could help me. I want to read Evola (specifically Revolt from the Modern World). Is there anything I absolutely must read to comprehend Evola?

I've been working my way through the Greeks and Romans (Homer, Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, and Caesar), but I really only have a passing understanding of philosophy.
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>>7657385
>>>/pol/
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>>7657389
Is this off-topic? I didn't know that /lit/ was only for literature that fits your worldview.
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you can begin evola anytime
he tells you how his outline is not about following

he even mentions where he got some of his ideas like guenon and spengler, you can read them but it's not necesary

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>ITT
We over think children books the way english teachers make you. Like this.
"His room color was blue because he was depressed."
Not like this. "Or, ooorrr, his favourite colour was blue!"

First book:
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Catch 22
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>>7657290
you are a degenerate
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>>7657309
Are you degenerate you?

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Im a total pleb and im having a hard time reading this, is this normal or am i retarded and should stop trying?
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retarded and should stop trying
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>>7657234
You're retarded but keep trying.

Disclaimer: I have not read it.
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>>7657234
What have you read before?

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ITT: We cast writer biopics. Writers who have already had biopics are allowed. Come on, /lit/! Hollywood needs new material!

I'll start.

>Mads Mikkelsen = Karl Ove Knausgård
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>>7657160
An obvious pick, but it'll never happen.
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am I the only one who can only name like 6 actors?

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/lit/

I finished the first part of pic related sometime ago. I've been meaning to finish the second part, but I couldn't get into the first part very much. Convince me to keep reading it.
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if you need someone to convince you to read it maybe you need a new hobby, since literature doesn't seem to be for you
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>>7657136
>implying that every time I reach the middle of any book I immediately throw up my hands in despair because I don't understand it.

Lol fuck off m8
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The second part wasn't written by Cervantes. Don't bother.

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Convince me that literary taste is objective without using your own personal taste. I'll wait.
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Intertextuality.
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Why would I want to do that, Mr. Halen?
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my dick is hard, they call me the bard

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>Wardine be cry.
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>>7656963

Looks like you're on a pace to finish the book in late-April. Be sure to read the endnotes, which should be manageable.
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>Wardine be cry.
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Wardine be cry.

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Has anyone read The Rage Against God?

I went into it as an atheist and a utilitarian. I've come away thinking that - although he doesn't state it explicitly - societies in which the majority believe in a Christian morality produce better utilitarian outcomes.

The idea that you will be judged by a higher power combined with a demand to love thy neighbour is more powerful than any secular ethical system - when widely believed.

But I still don't actually believe in God or judgement, which puts me in a weird place.

Anyway, what did you think?
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Based Hitchens.
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>utilitarianism
>good
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>>7656900
Rather disapointing if entertaining.

Guy just combined his experiance with Stendhal syndrome and the conservatism that he picked up with age.

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So apparently Pynchon's name is pronounced "Pinch-on" and not "Pin-chin"

what the fuck? how do you lads say it?
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It's Pinchin.
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o is pronounced like o instead of i?
Outrageous!
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>>7656766
go to 1:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPB6GXG7Wa8

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Who wins? Which should you read first?
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>>7656746
0/10
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Life is too short to bother with both of these shitty books.
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Read Infinite Jest first.

Ulyssess should only be read at the end of your life when you have dedicated your life to understanding and enjoying the western canon and reading 2-3 books a week.

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What relation do you think there is between the two? How come that with the elections coming, no one asks why it seems so plausible that dear Donald is a role model for (supposed) serial killer Patrick Bateman?
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>>7656728
because that movie was a while ago

>inb4 i'm talking about the book
noone has read the fucking book
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>>7656734
Stop projecting, you fucko. I've read American Psycho eight times, in three different languages - portuguese, 3 times, english, 4 times, and motherfucking french, 1 time. The nuances in Bret E. Ellis prose are superb and his well-thought, meaninfull phrases can destroy any of the silly plot constructions David F. Wallace could ever come up with during his embarassing so-cal lifetime. Call it a self-masturbatory tour-de-force into the wits of a handsome, yet murderous, successful yuppie or, even, a unjustified...
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i meant that noone (okay: very few people) have read the novel; and most anyone who knows the story / character knows it from the movie.

i maybe a third of the US public have seen the movie and very view people remember it with much detail. most people prolly think of bateman primarily as a killer, who just so happens to also be a businessman. i don't think most people think far enough to see the character in context and what that may imply.

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What's a good audio book to listen to while you slip into unconsciousness?
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>using mind-altering substances
>being this much of a pleb
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>>7656650
Bet you're not even published
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>>7656631
The Gravity's Rainbow audiobook is surprisingly comfy.

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