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What's /lit/'s opinion on books being converted to film? Is this for plebs only, does it sometimes open a new window into the enjoyment of the work, or other?

(For those who say "hurr durr movies r 4 dumb ppl"- Keep in mind that the top 3 rated movies on IMDb are from BOOKS, Shawshank Redemption, Godfather 1 and 2. And the fourth is from a Comic book.)
Honestly, I think you have to be stupid to say that the Godfather 1&2, Shawshank Redemption and Nolan's The Dark Knight were bad interpretations of a literary work.

>Pic...
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Good books can't be converted to film
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It's pretty much the only way the masses will read a book, is if a movie adaption is coming out and there's hype around it. It's also probably the only way to make a real living as a writer anymore.

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my prose is shit.
how can i improve
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Write
Read fiction
Read books about writing
Write books about reading
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Fuck her
full force
In face
and ass
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buy prostitute
ask her for her name
tell her you actually don't care
leave her in the closet locked

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what the hell is existentialism
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that moment where you realize you exist and it's really overwhelming and kind of spooky that you have to make decisions dependent on that reality.
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Existentialism is a reaction to the nihilism inherent in the death of God and secularization of Western civilization. In previous eras, man's life was given meanig by God. With science slowly disproving God, we are left with a vacuum of meaning. Since nature abhors a vacuum, various philosophers have attempted to prove that man is capable of creating his own meaning even if that meaning ultimately proves absurd.
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>>7667763
An idea that seems really really cool when you're 18.

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Has anyone read this book? I've read recently that I suffer from learned hopelessness, and was hoping that this book might change my hopeless attitude. Do you think these books are generally bullshit?
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bump cause im also interested
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>>7667756
Vaulted me out of my funk... so, fellow moderate pessimists, go buy this book.
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>>7667756
Optimists are bad people and should only be allowed to live because of how difficult and costly it would be to kill them all.

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Opinions on him?

Which of his books are the best or otherwise worth reading?
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Great author. Brilliant ideas. His prose is a tad pulpy tho. My favorite book by him is VALIS. But I'm a tad biased because I'm schizo and I find it to be one of the best portrayals of the disease. Second favorite would be A Scanner Darkly. I cried when I got to the ending and he dedicates the book to all the friends of his that died from junk. But I might be a tad biased with this too since I used to be a junkie. If drugs and schizophrenia are too edgy for you then Do Androids Dream Electric Sheep would probably be your best bet. As I'm sure you already know,...
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This is a controversial opinion, but I've tried reading a few of his books and never made it past the first 20 pages at most.

His prose is just insufferable and I don't care what any of you have to say about his ideas, he couldn't write his way out of a wet paper bag.
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As pointed out whenever this topic arises - great ideas, terrible prose.

Don't start with Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (like most people do because of Blade Runner); it's got some of his worst writing. If you can put up with some crap writing, try Ubik.

If you want some Dick SF with better prose, try his 1970s novels, especially A Scanner Darkly.

Alternatively, try his non-SF novels (e.g. In Milton Lumky Territory, Confessions of a Crap Artist). They lack the great ideas of his SF, but the prose is much better. The non-SF books read like...
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Does /lit/ like James Clavell and his Asia Saga?
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Its rather enjoyable if you can stomach 1200 pages.
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There was a span of two weeks I saw a lot of praise for it a little while ago. Haven't seen much recently though I think it is well received here.
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>>7667686
I loved it when I was a teenager, but the incorrect names really tickle my autism now. There are some good jerk off scenes

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I want to start reading Cicero's works. How should I start?
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Start with the greeks, not the roman fags.
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>>7667565
Nice meme
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>>7667547
De Amicitia is as good a start as any.

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I want to buy Beckett's "The Trilogy," but I'm not sure whether I should buy the compendium or each novel separately. I'll definitely save money buying the single volume but I'm not sure of the edition's quality, and carrying around and reading three books in-one seems clunky to me.

/lit/'s thoughts? Does anyone have pic related?
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>>7667411
I bought the compendium myself from Amazon, partially because it saved me more money than buying each book separately, but you seem less certain about this than I am. For you, I'd suggest only buying the book in the trilogy that you most want to read, and then if you read and like that you can buy the other books in the trilogy. This way, you save money if you end up not wanting to read the rest of the trilogy. I've seen mixed responses towards Beckett's novels so you may not even like them all.
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>>7667455
I'm interested in all of them, is the compendium comfortable to read? Is it printed well? I won't be sorry buying all it so long as the edition is good. It costs less than a single copy of Molloy.
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>>7667411
Buy the Everyman's Library edition. It is the best I've seen if you are looking for the trilogy. I have it and love it. Their books are always quality.

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>I read translations

It's like someone recommending an orange to you so you eat a lemon instead.
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>i learn languages other than english

it's like you already have steak, but you decide to eat dogfood instead.
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>not learning Russian, French and German for the literature
fuck spanish tho
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Can we please stop with nonsense already? I will never learn russian or japanese in a level that someone would deem as acceptable to read literature. So should I ignore their works instead? You can't translate everything spot on, but then again The bible was not written down in English and neither was the communist manifesto and yet you all get the gist of it just fine.

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Since sexuality exists in everything that humans do, will my characters always seem flat unless I'm writing smut?
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tension is not smut but tension is everywhere in literature, smut itself is pretty flat
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>>7667115
>since breathing is in everything humanity does, do my characters seem flat if I don't tell the audience they're doing it?

Sexuality is inherently assumed, don't be fooled by the meme-market of 50 Shades.
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>>7667115
Yes. Do not forget to properly characterize every penis.

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Why do you idolise this "tragic writer" lifestyle, /lit/? Why do you love the moustache man and hemingway, insanity, sadness, tragedy and the misunderstood artist? Is that what you want in your future? Crank out a few books, find nothing to fill the void, and off yourself?

I just don't get it.
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>>7668500
speak for yourself, anon
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those are marketing gimmicks created by the capitalist publishing industry...remember that speech where Hunter Thompson is like "I don't know if you guys want to speak as Hunter Thompson or 'Hunter Thompson' and like shoot off a gun and down some whiskey"
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they need something to blame their lack of progress and success upon.

i have completed no works because i am sad, lonely, insane, misunderstood.

my works are not famous because i am misunderstood by the masses. if only the masses knew what a tortured soul i am.

truth is you just suck mang

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More modern stuff like Rumi I know of but what about ancient stuff
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I know there are one or two Persianists who browse this board.

But I can tell you even as a relative pleb that it's not much that truly survives from the Achaemenid, Arsacid, and even Sasanian periods. Most of what we know is mediated through Islamic civilisation, which subsumed the Persian (or the other way around, depending on your perspective; whole complex sometimes called Perso-Islamic).

I remember having to dredge huge sections of Ye Olde Persian writings from al-Tabari, who wove them together really frustratingly.

I think more Philhellenic...
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Interesting, although the Greek stuff survived THROUGH the Islamic caliphates- Aristotle was being studied in Baghdad long after it was forgotten in the west (St Augustine declared that curiostity acts like a page on the mind). Perhaps the fact that aristotle and Plato' works are (usually) areligious whereas early Persian writing was Zoroastrian (not even an Abrahamic religion) played a role in the loss of its literature under Muslim rule
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I know Spengler claimed that the Aryans began first around 1400 B.C., then the Chinese and then Greece.

What sort of corroboration is he relying on?

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What does /lit/ think of Frankenstein and Mary Shelley?
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frankenstein is good. i didn't expect it from a woman writer.
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She conquered the romantic era of literature. She's great
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>husband- Percy Shelley
>mother- Mary Wollstonecraft
How can one family be so literarily based?

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Ask someone who works at a library for the blind anything.
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>>7668245

Are you blind?
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>>7668248
Nope.
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Do you ever mock or ogle the patrons knowing that they can't see you

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What's the hidden meaning behind this book?
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Vore is good.
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Niggers and jews are bad news
Disclaimer: I didn't read this book
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>>7665901
How the working man will eventually free himself from the ravenous all-consuming machine of capitalism.

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