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So, when the fuck does the plot begin? Because so far from what I've read it's like small talk stretched through 40 chapters.
>>7677622
it's not about the plot
It's a book of secondwave feminism and was part of the realist movement. It was meant to be a controversial, gender-role breaking book.
if you're reading for plot you're reading it wrong.
>>7677622
>reading for plot
>>7677649
Unfortunately I'm not reading it of my own accord.
Hello, everyone! Recently I, a man who's been learning English for 3 years now, started off reading the novel David Copperfield by Dickens, and you know what? I still cannot figure out even 70% of what I read. Sometimes I have to reread passages twice or even more times to get to the point, not to mention of how much the English word order differs from Russian's. And all those different meanings of the same words. Fucking hell. Is it supposed to mean that I will never be able to read English classics without being exposed to the language at the very young age? Should I kill myself?
>>7677506
Literature is faggot shit, don't waste your time. Your English writing skills already surpass 96% of natives'.
Including mine because I don't know how to write that last word
Three years is nothing. Keep reading, reread, read easy books, read complicated books.
Keep reading him, I was reading ToTC and his writing style didn't click until the 200th page, but then it was fluid af.
Mark the sentences you don't understand and read them later or read a translation.
Practice is key.
t. as you can see, someone with shit english
Keep trying.
The Icelandic Sagas aren't that great.
Joyce ain't so hot.
>>7677570
take that back
the whale parts are necessary and brilliant
the judge is the best character in literature
white teeth was pretty good
dostoevsky doesn't stand up to re-reads (heartbreakingly)
billy budd >>>>>>> bartleby
pic related is my favorite yeats
>2016
>hasn't read Menexenus, Plato's most significant dialogue
Explain yourself, anon
>Plato
Talk about lowbrow
What makes it so significant?
>>7677436
Who hasn't read the complete works of Plato?
Do you think a good writer can write a book about anything?
Like if you gave (don't wanna be drawn into a debate about who's good so just insert your fav novelist here) a brief to write a novel on spider monkeys taking over Wales or some shit, or like about a sentient plug socket- could it be good?
It will be good to some extent as long as they are motivated enough to care.
Some authors can probably do better outside their natural environments; for example, dialogue writes will be fine as long as they are allowed to write dialogue.
For the most part though I think a good part of being a writer is quality control. So it might not be great,, but it would be at least readable.
>>7677394
Depends on how much of a headcase they are really. Like some great writer doped up enough to imagine a sentient plug socket would likely do pretty well.
On the other hand someone who specializes in like westerns and the likes will likely have some issues if it's not something they're mind is really built for.
Writing is just the pretentious way to put whatever bullshit you have in your head on paper. So there is no real reason it's impossible but I'd say it's pretty unlikely to...
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The face value events in any books are all pretty much symbols. A good writer is someone who chooses the right symbols for the vision he imparts.
So technically 'yes'.
Does DFW look like John Romero to anyone else?
Am I crazy?
DFW looks one of those 'fedora' guys from the memes
>>7677378
Bandanas are now fedoras.
He was like an ugly John Romero
Anyways, they're both hacks
I need a time write prompt for crime and punishment, the prompt is limited to the end of part 3.
Then write it, you massive faggot
why do yall act like all spooks are wicked
because spooks are figments of the human imagination.
and humans are truly fucked up. go read "The Entity" and see if you agree with me.
>He read Nietzsche before Schopenhauer
schopenhauer -> nietzsche -> ???
WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP
>>7677306
Then you make your own custom philosophy for your personal use only.
>>7677306
aquinas
I don't like much fiction but i really liked the divine comedy. Any similar work from today? A single narrative cover to cover but not in prose?
>>7677245
havent read the divine comedy, but if you want long stories written poetically you could try robinson jeffers. he did a bunch of them, women at point sur, tamar etc
A very brilliant, misguided friend and former classmate of mine died an unfortunate, young death yesterday.
Which piece of literature would you turn to in a situation of grief?
>>7677242
I literally just read this. I liked it very much.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/25/magazine/after-life.html
>>7677267
I was reading some of her the other day, I'm going to check this out when I can clear my head. Thanks anon.
Nature poetry like Yeats', but that might be too personal a fancy.
Hope you feel better soon. <3
I just finished reading this and I loved it.
I feel like I should be embarrassed by how much I related to it, but for reasons best described in the book, I don't.
What do you guys think of it?
>>7677189
I actually liked the guy. Alpha/Beta hybrid person is interesting.
I thought it was super feelsy and powerfully instructive.
The underground man wants to live a moral and deliberate life, but attempts to dictate the terms of it on his own. He can see beauty (in the classical, moralistic+aesthetic sense) but is unable to see his own soul as beautiful. Each time he refuses to act on his sense of beauty he lashes out at himself, and his mind has become haunted and marred by the idea that he is small and despicable. He refuses love and redemption on the grounds that he doesn't deserve it, because only faith lets one gain (unearned)...
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>>7677189
This book is what got me back into reading, as well as inspired me to write my own shit, desu. Dostoevsky really captures how humans are unreasonable simply for the sake of being unreasonable really well.
Just finished American Gods and then the Road, liked them both, what should I read next?
Pls no gravity's rainbow or something, my power level is not high enough to enjoy those yet.
>inb4 books aren't meant to be enjoyed
More McCarthy
If you enjoyed the Road, I guess a good place to start is more McCarthy. I honestly didn't like All the Pretty Horses, but you might. So give it a whirl.
What's your favorite quote /lit/?
Looking to spice up something I'm writing and wanted to see opinions
BEACHED by REI
"I got to notice what I'm sure you've noticed long ago, I know, I know you've seen me brought home on occasions, dragged in the door, under what's called the Influence, son, helped in by cabbies at night, I've seen your long shadow grotesquely backlit at the top of the house's stairs I helped pay for, boy: how the drunk and maimed both are dragged forward out of the arena like a boneless Christ, one man under each arm, feet dragging, eyes on the aether."
>>7677163
what?
What did you guys think of this, I thought it was bretty gud
>"Fuck the Russia"
Stopped reading right there
Horribly contrived for an American audience, especially towards the end. Pretty cool as an image of what pre taliban Afghanistan was like at the beginning though:
6/10, worth reading but wouldn't read again.
>>7677085
It's ok, the actual prose was nothing to write home about but it was kind of interesting to see Taliban Afghanistan. The kind of book you read on holiday and pretty much forget everything about it afterwards.
