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>“being” is abstraction, as is even “the I.” Only I am not abstraction alone

wtf is he trying to say here? His conception of the self/I/ego is so unclear. If "the I" is abstraction, what is he referring to when saying "I am not abstraction"? How does that differ from the abstraction of "the I"?
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>>7679683
I as I is an abstraction. I as a thing is an abstraction. only I as me is concrete.

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So I've been reading about how many editions of V. sold today are unrefined and not approved by Pynchon. What's the best version of V. which is still produced and sold at a reasonable price?
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>>7679680
I tried ordering it the other day, it is printed on demand now, not sure which edition. Start looking for used ones would be your best bet though.
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>>7679680
He made some last minute changes that were only in like one or two editions that probably aren't even printed anymore. I don't know if it's the most accurate one, but I read the Harper Perennial edition and I had no complaints.
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honestly pick up any edition, even the famously shitty vintage edition is still fine, it's not like GR where there are actual missing lines

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Are there any websites that provide insightful and in depth literary analysis? I'm specifically looking for something on Virginia Woolf's Orlando but I've never really read any criticism/analysis before now and don't want to waste time with shitty goodreads tier opinion pieces.
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my diary to be quite honest.
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>>7679677
http://www.laphamsquarterly.org/

Dunno about woolf tho
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>>7679677
4chan.org/lit/
Come back in a week I'm just about to read Orlando too. We can discuss it mate.

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What books or stories struck you in such a way that it has stuck with you for years afterward? It can be anything

for me pic related was a really eerie experience when I first read the series years ago. Just the way Wolfe wrote and how alien it felt really tripped me up because I knew its set billions of years into the future and definitely feels foreign, yet very familiar.

I know that's the point and Wolfe gradually reveals more throughout without spoonfeeding in the least, but even after years I would realize something new about the book that I didn't...
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I think I will always remember Walter Moers' The City of Dreaming Books.
It is a story set in a world where everything is about literature and how brilliant (or not) everyone is at writing poems/stories/novel etc. The protagonist sets out on a journey to the capital of books to find the author of an exceptional story he inherited from his godfather.

The way this world, the protagonist's journey and experiences are described is incredible. Despite having read the book several times already, it is always an adventures starting it anew.
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Crime and Punishment
Silent Hill 2 (which is actually based off of C+P if you're smart enough to read into it properly)

>second person, present tense
You put the terrible and lazy book inside the trash. You slowly slide a razor up your forearm, unzipping your antebrachial vein and savoring the pain.
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>>7679544
I didn't know good poetry could be this simple and charming, and yet somehow truly wicked on a different level
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>>7679548
nice meme
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>>7679544
Is there anything that's even written like that in its entirety? Sure, there are second person passages where the reader is addressed directly in some books, but I don't think I've ever even heard of a book entirely written in the second person.

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Write a stream of consciousness passage and the best work gets a gold star on the chart.
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Mixing Pepsi, Lyle's Golden Syrup, the artist consummation summary additive devising polarising divide: column a column b, fuck me, dogmatic ballet leaning on pillar, pillar on pillar on leaning on leaning on on on, an equal number of times goes the t'chk t'chk, g'h'a-ac'ck. E-eee, downing a whole eighth, sweetener false sugar, cancer giver, loose cannon, all the niggas. Broken hot water tap, dispense custom choice, customise fluid flow, light trickles, sprinkle glisten blow.

Filament blended cock concoction tapped basin leaking full expense:...
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The beautiful openings want nothing more than to be touched and caressed by the tender hands of the frail orphan boys who live down by the stream. I can’t sit still I can’t sit still I gotta keep moving can’t stop moving. The other side is overcrowded. The dead have nowhere to go. In a library amongst corpses covered in rabbit blood we sit waiting with our mouths open. Our heads are tilted back to catch the rain and feel it drip down our throats. I’m a postmodern angel who lives inside of a deer carcass I carved it open I found it on the side of the road one Tuesday...
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>>7679586
I didn't know good poetry could be this simple and charming, and yet somehow truly wicked on a different level

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Thoughts on Manuel Puig?
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Gay.
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balding
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He gives an interesting insight into the culture of the time and US-Latin America relations

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/lit/ how do you feel about Peter Singer? Do you think that a life of luxury and excess is morally reprehensible? And do we have an obligation to others?
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I don't see how that follows.
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That isn't in my best interest

It will only be in my best interest if the pleasure of feeling that I've done something good outweighs the displeasure of giving something away
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>>7679466

What arguments does he have against egoism?

The idea that morality is egoistic, that in behaving morally we are just actualizing ourselves. "What is moral" is ultimately a different question to different persons, semantic interpretations aside.

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/lit/

What's your beef with pic related? I read Women last year and I thought it was great. Then again, it's the only work of his I've read so I'm not a great source. What am I not seeing as being wrong with him that all you are?
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He is too sincere.

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Best 20th century Bildungsroman?
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Sons and Lovers
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catcher in the rye xd
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>>7679553
this is actually right without the xd

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kind of a novice reader, but i really liked

Devil in the White City.
both for the fact that i was learning and the novelistic style.

i like architecture and serial killers.

what are some other recommendations of the best books in this style?

thank you
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Hey /lit/ so my gf and I are going to spend the spring on a farm working as assistants. The set up only requires 4 hours of labor a day in exchange for room and board. We are both bookish so what do you suggest that I bring along to read on my off time. I'm definitely bringing pic related. Would appreciate thematically or stylistically relevant suggestions.
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>>7679385
>my gf and I
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>>7679391
Wait is that not correct? I am hopeless with grammar.
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Anne Karenina for those sweet farming scenes
maybe some Steinbeck like East of Eden
Walt Whitman's poems are pretty good
maybe Thomas Hardy or Henry James

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Thinking of reading this.

Does /lit/ think it's good?
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read it and find out
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>>7679382
You read it first and tell me if it's worth my time.
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it's a small gem of a book

I have this version and it's one of my favorite physical copies I have. The texture, design, and print are great

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Did you enjoy I, Robot /lit/?
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Very much. Read pretty much all of Asimov as a pre-teen (many moons ago). Can't remember much about them now, apart from the laws of robotics, the general arc of the Foundation books and some pretty dodgy but (at the time for me at least) effective sex scenes.

However the film of I, Robot is an abomination.

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What is the best english translation of Cyrano de Bergerac by Edmond Rostand?
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>>7679340
The French is actually not that difficult and repays the attention you give it (the metre and rhyme are difficult to translate successfully into English).

Sorry I can't recommend a printed English translation (have always just googled random bits and pieces alongside my French edition). However there is a black and white film version from 1950 in English, starring Jose Ferrer as Cyrano, that I rate pretty highly (better than the Depardieu version IMHO). The whole thing is on YouTube.

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