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Was lolita ever in love with Humbert? Or was it just an innocent crush? was Humbert just bullshitting us?
Discuss. Also general Lolita discussion/opinions because I have just finished reading it for the second time.
>>7680677
All delusion
>>7680677
Very plausible, almost certain imo. Psychologically speaking, Lolita had no father figure growing up and it stands to reason that a sudden male influence in her life would be very attractive to a young girl.
At the same time, the extent to which Lolita actually liked Humbert was undoubtedly exaggerated.
>>7680677
I just finished reading it for the first time and thought it was amazing.
As for your question, no, Lolita was never in love with Humbert. At first, yeah, she had a slight crush, like all little girls have once, but she never loved him, neither as a father nor as a lover, and I'm pretty sure that ever since she found out about her mother she hated him.
Humbert was just so self-centered and deluded by crazy ass love that he couldn't realize he was making life hell for that child.
I loved the...
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How can I learn to read poetry? It seems like an impossible task, especially the allusion-heavy stuff. Now you'll tell me "you don't need to get every allusion to appreciate the poem!", and in a sense you are right, but I can't shake the feeling that I'm missing out on something.
Start with Romantics like Wordsworth and Keats. Any selection will do, but Oxford generally have good selections. Realise the importance of sound in poetry, the beauty of the words.
>>7680588
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Poetry
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>>7680597
>Start with Romantics like Wordsworth and Keats
don't do this
>>7680588
start with whoever pleases your ear. try Yeats.
Fantastic essay on Nietzsche:
https://www.nytimes.com/books/00/01/23/bookend/bookend.html
Choice quotes:
> The philosopher John Searle once told me that reading Nietzsche was like drinking cognac -- a sip was good, but you didn't want to drink the whole bottle.
> Nietzsche had come to stand for something absolute and pure, like gilded Byzantium or Ahab's whale; he represented what I imagined I might have been. He had become a permanent horizon.
> What was great in Nietzsche was not, I began to see, his holiness, maybe not even his wisdom. It was his courage.
> We go to literary shrines to touch things. We run our fingers along the writing table, we furtively step over the red velvet rope and finger the water jug by the edge of the bed. Yet to feel the pedestal is to call the very idea of the pedestal into question. Which is why there is something comic in all pilgrimages: while Don Quixote holds loftily forth, Sancho Panza steals the ashtray.
> I could not pity Nietzsche. It was a betrayal of everything he had believed. He had railed against pity. Compassion was for the hearth-huddlers, the followers, those who lacked the strength to turn themselves into ''dancing stars.'' The last temptation of the higher man, Nietzsche had taught, was pity; on its far side was a roaring, Dionysian, inhuman laughter.
> But my heart won the war. Maybe it was resignation -- the final acceptance that I was not going to forge myself into a new shape. Maybe it was weariness with a doctrine, with all doctrines, that sounded delirious but that couldn't be used. Whatever it was, I stopped fighting. Yes, part of Nietzsche would always stand far above the tree line, and I would treasure that iciness. But I had to walk on the paths where I could go.
>>7680554
I genuinely enjoyed that, thank you op
Not bad.
Does anyone have that copy pasta about all the shit Freddy had to endure in his day to day?
Is liberal democracy doomed?
>>7680489
Americuck detected, go to New Zealand and Denmark, or better yet post literature.
I'm really in a need of a laugh. Rain outside, fucked up achilles, can't run, and I think i'm catching cabins fever. Thinking of rereading Hichhikers again, it's pretty much the only thing that really made me laugh, besides few passages from Fear and Loathing in Vegas. Prachett made me chuckle occasionally, and nothing else even came close.
So, is it just me, or are books just really lousy when it comes to comedy?
read the good soldier svejk
>>7680455
Read it when I young. It was chuckley.
Gogol can be hilarious, but his subject matter isn't exactly comfy.
In the city where I live, theaters have some great comedies. Maybe you could try that out?
What books should i read if i wanted to explore my angst-filled childhood? I'm talking about feelings like not being good enough, feeling 'behind' in regards to girlfriends and such, feeling an overwhelming burden of responsibility from your parents and so forth.
Any other anons know what I'm talking about? I'm referring to the prepubescent age if you are in doubt.
> pic is my grandfather and my uncle
Adventures of Huck Finn.
>>7680441
Which country is that?
>>7680441
Infinite Jest. I'm not even memeing.
Did I buy good?
>Seeking intellectual validation from an online anime board
sorry, I don't speak Deutschcuck
>>7680439
>not buying the superior Fischer-edition
How do you people stay focused when reading? My wanders off after reading one page, after that I have to reread sentences before I finally get what's written.
It's not like like I'm forcing myself to read, I really like reading but It happens with any damn book I read. Quite disheartening desu...
What gives? Any tips?
>>7680371
Find a D E S I G N A T E D reading spot. All jokes aside, if you have a room at home or a favorite cafe where the only thing you do is read, simply going there will make reading easier and easier as you get more accustomed to it. Take your phone to listen to some background music, but don't take a laptop which can be much more distracting.
And then just read more. It gets easier with time. Also taking notes, whether in book margins, a separate notebook, or both, will force you to interact more actively...
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>>7680384
This
What sucks for me is I've created my designated reading spot as waiting areas when I have nothing better do between either classes or other activities
It's actually fucked me up since I have trouble sitting down and reading at home
Going through the same. It's annoying as fuck, might start taking notes like
>>7680384
Suggested
sup /lit/, what's the difference between sci-fi/fantasy and "speculative fiction"?
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a sense of artistry
No difference. Typical cunty "I don't like sci Fi fantasy but I'm gonna wrote it anyway" bullshit
a difference in degree, and not one in kind; as such,w here you draw the line/if you should draw a line is hotly contested and nebulous
Early fantasy and science fiction took place in times the authors lived in. Why did fantasy become overwhelmingly medieval and science fiction become overwhelmingly thousands of years into the future? Why didn't we get Great Depression fantasy, WWII fantasy, hippie counterculture fantasy, etc.? Why didn't urban fantasy become the most common form of fantasy?
I'm going to suggest Tolkien as the answer.
Maybe because people in the pre-modern world already lived in a magic world? Also the pre-modern world was pretty stable and stagnant.
>>7680267
This.
Fantasy genre has been entwined with escapism since Tolkien. Most of fantasy writers dream of a world without modernity and the problems of today.
/lit/ humour
But in honor of Homer (Poor blind bastard), and also because this is a literature board and the usual threads are shit: No images
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‘It’s cost me every sexual relationship I ever had. I don’t know why I do it. I’m not a political person, I don’t consider myself. I’m not one of these America first, read the newspaper, will Buchanan get the nod people. I’ll be doing it with some girl, it doesn’t matter who. It’s when I start to come....
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I'm going to dump Charlie Kaufman's Kurt Vonnegut parody because it is rather fitting for this thread.
1/5
>>7680446
3/5
How hard do you think it would be to write a world-class novel in another language?
English is pretty much the world language so if you want the widest base you go in English.
>>7680109
Considering it's already insanely hard to write a world-class novel in your native language, I assume writing one in a second language would be even harder.
>>7680109
Stay away from Jhumpa Lahiri. She is the reason for your "maladies".
Read Nabokov and Beckett.
anybody else come here from /mu/ cause they got sick of the memes and are desperately hoping they don't suddenly lose interest in books in a couple months
>>7680081
yup
/lit/ is going to turn into /mu/ in a few years.
>>7680081
>tired of memes
>posts meme
Please return to your containment board.
Are there any books that present themselves as YA or genre fiction but then turn out to be literary?
No. Best to make book-safes out of all of them.
book of the new sun
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>>7679918
>>7679927
>>7679918
Blood Meridian, Lolita, The Brothers Karamazov, The Crying of Lot 49, The Stranger, The Fault in our Stars, anything by Harold Bloom
