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"You're rapping about homosexuals and vicodin, I can't sell this shit! Either change the record, or it's not coming out"

What did he mean by this?
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>>8247603
>What did he mean by this?

what do you mean by this?
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This thread is about a skit on an Eminem record, and it will remain on the literature board until it dies naturally in ten hours.
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>>8247619
rap is poetry + music. i determine this thread to be completely on-topic

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>read Phaedo
>Socrates gets asked how he knows the soul is immortal
>he says it's immortal by definition
>"omg Socrates, you've done it again!"

Ah well, it's a bit more canon cred but I gained no pleasure from this.
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don't trust everything you read
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>>8247600
What did you think about his theory of ideas/forms, theory of recollection, and his ideas about the qualities of the soul?
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>>8247600
he gives like 3 or 4 arguments for it

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Punctuation question.

What is it called when you ask the audience a question in a piece of prose and what is the accepted punctuation structure for this kind of writing.

Examples:
> "How?" you may ask? Well, let me tell you!
> You may be thinking, "Why or how or when," but that is beside the point.
> Do not presume to ask, "punctuation is of little consequence in this day and age!"

Those examples are what I think the punctuation...
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>>8247598
that's just a rhetorical question

first example is ok except it doesn't need the second question mark (after "ask")
second example is just missing a question mark
third example is not phrased as a question, it's just a statement
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>>8247604

thanks
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>>8247598
>you may ask
This is a statement. The "conditional element" you find in a question is in the "may," so a question mark would be redundant. The "How?" part is okay, because you're stating they may ask.

Also, some sentences take the form of a question that don't need question marks if they aren't interrogative.

For instance, "Who gives a shit," is only interrogative if you are legit asking who gives a shit. Most of time...
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Is this a good introduction to postmodernism? I heard a lot about it, but the fact Jameson is a neo-marxist is a bit of a turn off. Is it objective, profound, or will I end up having a wrong idea of pomo?
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>>8247577
I guess that one and "The postmodern condition" by Lyotard.
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Sounds more like a critique of it.
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>>8247583
Is it? Makes sense, I haven't read it, but it was never presented to me as such.

>>8247581
Which one should I start with?

Why is it that reading is so attractive and cathartic for us?

Does it go back to the cliche that we are just intellectually superior or does it have nothing to do with that, and more to do with personality type?
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come on fellas
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>>8247516
Communication, my friend. All people, introverted or extroverted, have a need for communication and books give us exactly the essential things, without all the banal small talk, which all intelligent people crave. I often think that I get so much pleasure from reading, poetry especially, because it makes me feel less alone. Whenever I see someone having a thought that I once had myself or describes what I am feeling I immediately feel life is less impossible to live because someone else has found a way to do it in...
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>>8247586
Nah that was a solid answer.

I agree. I'm more into the older stuff too because I already feel connected enough to people around me its almost overwhelming.

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Post the best respective authors from your country and discuss their best work.

Others prove themselves to be plebs and starts asking who, or what country.

I'll start with easy one
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>>8247464
I'm from Ireland famalam there's no point
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True

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>i couldn't relate to any of the characters
>all of the characters were unsympathetic
>there was no-one to root for

are these the most plebeian of literary complaints?
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>>8247434
what if the characters are giant pixel clouds that repeatedly scream "boobaloo!" for no reason throughout the entire novel and someone finds themselves not relating to that
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>>8247439
Then both the author and those readers are plebeian.
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Comments like that can help if you know what to look for and how to ask questions

The layman can definitely sense when story is lacking "energy" to keep itself moving forward, which is why it can be callled stuff like "bland", "uninspired" etc. but dont expect them to be able to tell you why in explicit detail, just take the feedback and test it against your own knowledge of how your story works

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Anyone else occasionally attributes special reading voices for some specific authors?

For some reason, I internally read things written by Schopenhauer in the voice of Harry S. Plinkett.
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>Humanity was the most disappointing thing since my son. I mean, how much could you possibly fuck up the entire world as representation? And while my son eventually hanged himself in the bathroom of the gas station, the unfortunate reality of humanity is that it will persist on being.
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>>8247412
>You might be saying, life can't be that bad. After all it's the only thing we got, riight? Well yeah, except for a little idea called the princanthemum individuaricearoni.
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related - are there any youtube channels as good as rlm? doesnt have to be about film, just overall quality

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I am Thomas Aquinas, AMA.
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Is it true that you could fly
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y r u gay sage
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>>8247390
What's even bad about harming stupid animals?

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I love genre fiction. i love stories with swords and magic, advanced alien societies, and stories that scare me shitless

After taking a few english lit class I've realized how shitty the writing is in the majority of popular scifi,fantasy and horror novels

are there any MODERN genre fiction authors whose works could be considered "literature" or of "literary merit"?
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Define 'literary' and 'literary merit'

you sure you're just looking for decent stories?
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>>8247316

McCarthy writes the best westerns.
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>>8247316
Kazuo Ishiguro has written 'literary' fantasy (The Buried Giant) and sci-fi (Never Let Me Go).

From the other angle, Gene Wolfe is generally cited as a genre author good enough to be considered literary.

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Has /lit/ ever stopped reading a book simply because you didn't like it, or it wasn't what you were expecting? How far into the book did you decide that you no longer wanted to read it? Pic related, within the first few chapters of each of these I wanted to throw them away, however I decided to finish each of these because I felt like they'd get better. They did not.

Have you ever stuck with a book until the end, even though you hated reading it? Does it feel like you have in a sense a moral obligation to finish for the sake of finishing what you started?
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I have a few books that I've dropped. Mostly it's related to a novel my mom suggested to me.

I'm not really enthusiast about Sookie Stackhosue mysteries since she gave me a later entry.

She enthused a bit about a male character being like a giant puppy, but I got creeped out by the character and the actor's voice in my head acting these lines.

I don't have a sense of moral obligation to finish the novel. And unless I have an advanced reader copy, I don't see a need to finish it.
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I've only stopped reading one novel, and that was Juliette.

I was about 150 pages in and never felt bad at all about dropping it.
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>>8247285
We read Go Ask Alice back in this one high school class. It was good for an unintended laugh or two because of how sensational and moralizing it was. The "twist" ending was so sloppy that it elicited a chuckle or two as well.

>Russian author Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote The Gambler in 26 days while also writing Crime and Punishment. He was heavily in debt and addicted to gambling and saw the semi-autobiographical novella as a good way to help him pay off his debts.

>26 days.
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>>8247197
>Plath wrote Ariel in October
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>>8247197
>He was heavily in debt and addicted to gambling and saw the semi-autobiographical novella as a good way to help him pay off his debts.

I'm sure that helped

"Its fear that gives men wings"
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>>8247199
Except Plath is shit.

Can we get a list of thought provoking and/or controversial books that really make you think?

I'm looking for some more books to buy.
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Perpetual Joshing
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the holy bible
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>>8247170
Men Among The Ruins - Julius Evola

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''Nothing could be more inappropriate to American literature than its English source since the Americans are not British in sensibility.''
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You've convinced me, I'll write my novel in Esperanto
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This is true but "sensibility" is hardly a static thing. The first Brits to inhabit America were Puritans, Quakers, and other strange folks who were just as different in sensibility before they crossed the Atlantic. The 17th and 18th centuries were as decisive in the shaping of the British identity as the American one. A lot happened on both sides of the ocean.
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B-but to be fair to Anglo-Saxons; the Jewish, which Americans are in sensibility, are equally bad

Which one do you prefer /li/, Illiad or Odyssey?
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>>8247093
Metamorphoses
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>>8247093
odyssey
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>>8247093
Aeneid

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