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Hey /lit/. I want to write a story, not necessarily a novel or a memoir at least not for now, but I want to do it anyway. It's a personal thing and I have no interest in getting money from it, probably no one will ever see it, dunno. This story has been with me for over a year and I have characters (with character sheets of sort for important ones), some scenes and a very loose sense of how the story will develop, but I have no idea where to start.

How do I organize myself? Ending first? How to write compelling characters? It's a mess of ideas so I'm stuck...
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it's not that complicated: start writing, keep writing til you're done.
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>>7700190
This, basically.

Your first draft is going to be shit no matter what you do. No way around it, especially if you've never written before. Write ten drafts if you need to, with varying amounts of time between them. Then when you're satisfied run it by some people who might know what they're talking about and rewrite according to whatever criticism you feel is onto something

Might seem excessive but writing is hard, especially before you get used to it. But you don't need to take it...
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>>7700190
Yes, I suppose it boils down to that eventually, much like drawing which I am better at.

>>7700222
I will keep this in mind and just start doing it. It's honestly a little scary, even if I know no one will probably see this material, finished or not. Thanks anyway, you two.

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Hi /lit/, I bought this for £1 in a charity shop. It's a hardcover from 1988, but I can't find any evidence of it existing on the internet. Any of you seen one of these?
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>>7700173
I'll double that.
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>>7700173
post publisher information
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>>7700173
Boy, that was hard.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brave-World-Great-Writers-Library/dp/086307703X/ref=tmm_hrd_title_2?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Publisher: Marshall Cavendish; First Thus edition (1988)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 086307703X
ISBN-13: 978-0863077036
Product Dimensions: 20.1 x 13.5 x 1.5 cm

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Please, post your top5:

>Philosophers
>Novel writers
>Short story writers
>Poets

Rate each other if you want

Mine:

>Descartes
>Kierkegaard
>Aristotle
>Schopenhauer
>Montaigne

>Sebald
>Dostoevsky
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wtf is mouth
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>>7700136
I think it would be style, but I can't be sure.
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>>7700136
the thing your mom uses to suck my balls with

Watched and rewatched this in the weekend, and I was floored.

So my question is, what us the /lit/ equivalent of Synecdoche, New York? What I seek is mostly similar themes and similar sense of weight in every moment and decision, wouldn't hurt if it was sad either.

Rec thread general
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infinity jest
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>>7700032
Borges for the Baudrilliardian part, kinda. Also Baudrilliard.
Ibsen for
> similar sense of weight in every moment and decision, wouldn't hurt if it was sad either.
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>>7700144
this t b h desu senpai

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I just finished reading this trilogy. Started off great but her pacing was off at times. The latter half of the second book and first half of the third were the best parts. Her ending was weak. I feel like she remembered she had to finish the book and just started wrapping things up as quickly as possible. I sensed a lot of feminist undertones from them as well. And while it wasn't a deal breaker, it kind of felt shoehorned (durr hurr women can lead too). Her characters (except for Regal) are fantastic and are what kept me going. Are her other trilogies better or are they...
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The next trilogy continues from the previous one and improves the ending; other than that, I remember it being much weaker, although I was about twelve when I read them, so I do not remember it all that well.
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After the Farseer trilogy, she published the Liveship Traders trilogy. It's set in the same world, but in a very different setting. I enjoyed that series as well. After that there's the Tawny Man trilogy, which returns to the setting of the Farseer-trilogy and is a good read too. I've heard that the other series aren't that good, but I haven't tried them.
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About 70% done with Assassin's Quest.
Fuck, the part in the mountains just keeps dragging on.

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I know very little of this time period and would appreciate some recommendations.
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>>7699999
Fuck.
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>>7699999
Iron Kingdom by Chris Clark, it's a general history of Prussia but its based as fuck. Go read it.
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>>7699999
I don't know too much either, but go check Maupassant and La Dernière Classe by Alphonse Daudet.

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The Simpsons move to Weimar Era Berlin, Marge gets battered to death out of jealousy, and Homer is released from prison in 1933. He proceed to rape Marge's sisters, he has an afrair with MissCrabapple and is first sort of picked up by the Nazi party (his job is selling their propaganda) and then proceeds to drift through all the other groups in late Weimar Era Berlin.
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I've been thinking about reading this book recently. Is it good?

Btw fuck your memes, memeboy.
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>>7700333
the expressionist style and the prose are very good, better than other books by döblin i've read. really gives you a feeling of the pulsating life of berlin at the times of the weimar republic. franz biberkopf (the mc) is a lumpenproletariat idiot readers are somehow supposed to like/feel sympathetic for.

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What do you think about Bonfire of Vanities? Cliche but pretty fun imo
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>>7699987
I enjoyed it enormously, though Wolfe does have something of a fetish for men's muscles and working out.

I remember really liking how he wrote his characters' accents.
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What a gilf.
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>>7699987
It felt like a really decent old law and order episode

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What novels, stories or plays only show two or three incarcerated characters? Just like Kiss of The Spider Woman by Manuel Puig.
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Kiss of The Spider Woman by Manuel Puig.
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>>7699955
Don't know if you'd like a film as well, but "Down By Law."

Although, as far as I can remember (unlike Kiss of the Spider Woman), Down By Law is pretty much no homo.
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>>7699955

Slightly larger cast, but 'No Exit' by Sartre (whence 'hell is other people')

What's /Lit/ opinion on "Froth on the Daydream" by Boris Vian? My gf gave it to me for valentines day, so I will read it anyway, but I always like to know what you think guys :^)
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Have anyone read it? In Le Monde's "100 20'th cetury books" list it's 10'th so I guess it's pretty popular, at least in France. I have watched the film based on it by Michael Gondry and it's great.
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>>7699913
It's very good, Vian has a killer way of making the environment fanciful and surreal. It's also a great love story, and if you've got a gf who's this tasteful I'm jealous.
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>>7699913
It's playfully surreal and lyrical at times but I found it, I don't know, melodramatic, rather predictable towards the end, too whimsical...those are not the right words and I can't articulate why I didn't like it, especially the second half. I didn't find the satirical parts particularly funny either. You'll love it if you hate Sartre though.

Any good novels that come close to the atmosphere of Xcom (UFO Defense)?
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>>7699869
Ready Player One
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>>7700121
fuck off
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>>7700126
CHILL BRO IT'S JUST A PRANK

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"...a Jorge Luis Borges for the Space Age, who plays in earnest with every concept of philosophy and physics, from free will to probability theory."

Has anyone read Lem's The Star Diaries? I picked it up today (along with Calvino's Cosmicomics) after reading the above quote comparing him to Borges. I'm sure /lit/ might at least be familiar with Solaris.

What am I in for?
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>>7699855

Haven't read it, but Lem is a favorite (and the Borges comparison is apt). Let us know what you think of it when you can.
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They're very funny and full of neat ideas.
The tone is a lot less sombre than Solaris.
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>>7699855
I don't remember details.I read it a long time ago but it was nice.Lem is good.

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What's his best book? I've heard that Invisible Cities are great and decided to try it, but before check if /lit/ thinks it's better to start with something else.
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Invisible Cities is barely a novel. It's a collection of "not-poems" interlaced with some surreal dialogue between Kublai Kahn and Marco Polo. It's pretty great, still. It's probably as good a place to start with any as a lot of his other stuff is fairy tales (still great). In my opinion 'If on a winter's night a traveler' is his best book but it's a pretty even split between that and Invisible Cities. Also I hated Cosmicomics but a lot of other people like it so you could look into some of those stories as well.
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>>7699849
Thanks a lot Anon!
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>>7699801
I recently finished Invisible Cities and loved it. It's a collection of short descriptions of cities based on interesting concepts (not dissimilar to Borges' short stories). It made me want to read more Calvino, so I'd certainly recommend it.

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In the 4th book of "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius, he makes mention quite a few times of examining the ruling principles of men. He suggests not an imitation, but rather a deep analysis of their personalities, things they avoid, as well as things they pursue.

While it certainly seems possible to do this in Ancient Rome, how can one do this today? World leaders like Putin and Kim Jung Un are so fundamentally flawed in their actions. Even leaders that garner even a little respect, such as Barack Obama and Angela Merkel, are so hated by many members of their...
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>>7699793
>brit queen
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Honestly, there were probably plenty of people who hated Aurelius in his day

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I want to get into this guy's work.
I bought The Waste Land but it'll take a few days to arrive.
Is there anything smaller/shorter I could check out as an 'introduction' of sorts?
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prufrock and hollow men
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>>7699768
>bought The Waste Land
>available for free online
>why
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>>7699840
This. Ynless it was the Norton Crítica Edition, it's not worth it.

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