Cis boys and girls here, what's one thing that transpeople could never understand about being your respective gender?
>>6562378
Periods
Random boners
The stability of being the same gender your entire life
societal validation
How to shitpost about the same few subjects with such dedication and complete lack of shame. We already had this thread several times. You can't troll people by making literally the same thread again and again.
>>6562378
I don't know that there's anything intrinsically unrelatable about the cis male experience, other than certain physiological aspects, but then, I think trans people 'really are' their identified gender.
What I will say is that a lot of trans men are really more like ... trans boys. They don't seem to grasp the necessity of self-discipline and exercising your higher desires over your baser ones, which to me defines the difference between a mature and an immature male, and too often I find that trans men influenced by feminism conflate this self-control with not having emotions and dismiss it as 'toxic masculinity'. In fairness to my trans brothers, this generation of cis males isn't exactly setting a stellar example.
>>6562609
Yeah men should keep a stiff upper lip and die for the queen.
>>6562378
The ability to reproduce
>>6562677
That is more or less what it means to be a man, yes.
>>6562686
Guess that's why I really want to jump ship then. For real though being a pawn of the state and suffering for the sake of ingrates is not worthwhile.
>>6562692
Don't suffer for ingrates, suffer for your principles. If your principles dictate that suffering for the ingrates is worth it, do it; if not, don't.
Seriously though if by 'want to jump ship' you mean you're MtF, then of course the traditional masculine role isn't going to resonate with you. That's not a problem with masculinity, though, nor is it really a problem with you: the two of you just aren't made for each other. Go be a wife and mother the way God intended.
Tucking your dick into your waistband so no one notices your boner in class.
>>6562384
>the only thing wombyn ever list
Kek.
Here for FTMs
>getting kicked in the balls
>>6562968
>tfw wannabe MtF with a monster dick
>the waistband does nothing
why
random boners
>be me fifth grade
>Class has to do book reports
>class has to present the book report
>"wesley horowitz i drew your name out of the hat, please come to the front of the class"
>Wesley suddenly has this look of terror on his face
>"I can't"
>"If you didn't do your book report, you'll get a zero on this assignment" teacher was a real bitch
>"No i did the assignment, i just... cant"
>im so confused at this point. WHY cant he.
>"The oral presentation is half the grade, it should be easy to tell us what the book was about if you read it"
>he gets up
>huge boner
>jeans tenting out to maximum
>class erupts in laughter
>teacher cant get them to stop laughing
>>6564039
I call them NRBs (no reason boners)
Even now in my mid 20s they fuck with my life
>>6562378
Being perfectly capable of being in touch with your feminine/masculine side without wanting to chop off your dick/ fleshcraft a dick.
>>6562378
Not having my life focused on my gender
Being raised to think of yourself like sexual livestock.
>>6562378
dying of prostate cancer
ummm.. prostate orgasm
>>6562378
the fear of impregnating a girl at the wrong time, or the wrong girl.
Friend of mine got a call from his ex, who he never planned to see again, and she told him she was pregnant with his kid and keeping it. Now he has to be a part of her life to be a part his kid´s life. Child support is of course also a thing.
>>6562378
I don't know what it is. I've been passing really well lately since getting FFS, and strangers have been treating me better then all of my friends and family. But I still feel like I'm missing something that other girls have.
maybe it's the vagina,, or that I'll never bleed or worry about pregnancy, or maybe it's that i'll never be a woman without trying.
But I don't have a choice. I was never a real man, and I can't seem to be a real woman either. all of this in-between is like torture; I just want to be real.
>>6562414
Nah, trans guys get random boners when they go on T. The clitoris is made of the same tissue as the glans, you know that, right?
>>6564160
I think that's just you... Haven't heard of too many people of either gender being taught to feel that way
>>6567758
It's not misandry, it's patriarchy.
>>6562384
>could never understand about being your respective gender?
>Periods
What is there to not understand?
Everyone has felt stomach pain, and been bloated.
>>6567575
>>6567861
It's literally the opposite of what you just said it was.
Hi, trans woman here.
Childbirth. Granted, I'd give just about anything to be able to carry a baby and menstruating would be 110% worth it, but trans women have no place discussing things related to abortion, etc, unless it's as an ally to cis women.
>>6564160
trans men are raised this way, and trans women are introduced to the concept pretty fast. especially trans women who transitioned as kids/very early.
i "transitioned" at about 20, but even in my teens as a little genderfuck i was constantly sexualized and made to feel worthless.
>>6562384
Trans women self induce periods with progesterone. It's just not bloody, but otherwise fairly similar. Bloating, cramping, hormonal shit.
>>6562378
Pointing at your platoon of little lookalikes and saying "I made those"
>>6562378
What it's like to grow up female. What it's like to actually be female, not the horrific masquerading they fool themselves into by acting like tv characters they've observed.
>>6568132
That's bullshit and you know it. You can't spontaneouly grow a uterus for its lining to break down just by taking progesterone. You don't have any of the correct anatomy for the cramps, your vagina isn't muscular it's just an open wound. At least mine won't close up if I stop shoving dildos up it.
>>6562609
Cis guy here. Wow you nailed it. Discipline is so important when going from a boy to a man. It's actually very offensive to dismiss this as toxic masculinity, it's just part of our nature. To be honest, I blame the accessibility of online porn. Men can become addicted to it without realizing, and it really does sap a cis male's drive to self discipline. How can one put aside base impulses if he is always fapping? Anyway, that's just my take on it.
>>6569685
m8000 isn't that temporary? stop consuming anime it's rotting your brain.
>>6569695
You shouldn't be on /lgbt/ or 4chan in general if you can't take the bants , lmao.
>>6568751 is most likely a projecting tranny like the rest of us anyways.
>>6569695
>just a gaping wound
way to buy into the narrative of the people who hate you.
I know this sucks but in the end you're dealt a certain hand and have to make it work. Easier said than done, I know, but you can do it. Push on ahead and grab happiness by the throat. Be as much of the person you want to be as you can. I'm willing to bet that's more than enough. People care about behavior and appearance more than the other stuff.
>>6564073
This.
>>6562378
That you don't actually think about your gender as being important in itself. You only think of it in a social context, and even then only rarely.
>>6562378
Do cis women believe in the whole your a queen/goddess narrative or is that just bs forced on you.
Being MTF i grew up feeling quite disposable as a man and that if i don't prove myself i have no intrinsic worth.
fszdfdsfds
>>6570559
>Do cis women believe in the whole your a queen/goddess narrative or is that just bs forced on you.
Seconding this, I'd really like to know cis woman's opinion on this.
>>6562425
not just yet...
getting their scrotum caught in their zipper
>>6562609
>They don't seem to grasp the necessity of self-discipline and exercising your higher desires over your baser ones, which to me defines the difference between a mature and an immature male, and too often I find that trans men influenced by feminism conflate this self-control with not having emotions and dismiss it as 'toxic masculinity'.
This has nothing to do with gender and all to do with maturity. Men and women alike need to understand this to grow up properly and take responsibility for themselves. In countries where living is tough you find that both the women and the men are hard and doesn't 'have emotions' so to speak. It is more of an American cliche that this is only contributed to men.
>>6562378
>itt a bunch of people list a bunch of irrelevant things in order to pretend their gender is super special
It's this thread, again. Getting random boners and periods isn't special. FTMs get random clit boners on testosterone and periods aren't special and differ so much between women that its pointless to say it's an experience that trans people could never understand (sorry wymen).
There is never anything that cannot be understood or even experienced in these threads.
>>6570559
>>6570591
I have no idea what the goddess narrative is but if you felt disposable as a man, just wait until you pass as a walking gash that barely has a use as fucktoy or breeding machine. You will be even more worthless though, since you don't have a womb. Sorry hunny. Expect to never be taken seriously again, and not being able to work your way up the ladder anymore.
>>6570703
You have never heard that cheesy saying
"every women is a goddess" hell they based commercials off of it.
And i didn't intend to play the better or worse game when i said disposable. In the end we all have our struggles and its pointless to try and prove who has it worse cause its just different in the end.
When i refereed to being disposable im referring to intrinsic worth.
>barely has a use as fucktoy or breeding machine
This is a worth. Im not saying its a good worth or that this value is relevant in 99% of your life but in the end of the day a 1 > 0
and that was all we where trying to talk about
>You will be even more worthless though, since you don't have a womb.
yup but luckily our intrinsic value and are social value aren't everything. I have proven my worth because people need me for what i provide. I just hope everyone else can find the same thing.
>>6570781
>When i refereed to being disposable im referring to intrinsic worth.
Yes? men's intrinsic value is the ability of action. It is assumed they can do/change/work/handle. A woman is seen as completely helpess on her own, while a man can build from scratch because he has action.
Everything
>>6570815
I picture you fapping furiously to Norman Rockwell paintings.
>>6570703
>but if you felt disposable as a man
Different anon but that is true, though. The way traditional society views genders: men are considered inherently disposable and male bodies are considered tools to be used, for society, for country, for women, and so on and men are seen as not having inherent value unless they make something of themselves.
Not that women have it better in traditional society, mind you, while it is true that women are considered inherently valuable because of wombs and ability to have children that also means that society inherently places a claim on women's bodies and women's lives and feels it has the right to dictate to women how they should look, act and think in a way that men generally don't experience. Also while male bodies are disposable tools women's bodies are simultaneously prizes to capture and public good to lust over.
What feminists don't realize and haven't realized since the 50s is that, in a traditional society, both genders get screwed over just in different ways.
>>6570815
Yup which is why women tend to be homeless less and commit suicide less. You would be surprised what you need now to be considered worthwhile based on your actions.
Now given all that I still think its nice. Agency is a big value of what makes us human, otherwise we are just an object which is a disgusting way to live which slowly eats away at your soul.
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but this was a thread about one thing that trans people would never understand. Intrinsic value is something i will never understand and especially when i was depressed and did have no skills I felt totally hopeless.
Ironically i find that I understand and relate with older women past menopause as they also don't have that intrinsic value in society.
>>6570855
i only ended up homeless once i transitioned
>>6567643
An inch and a half engorged clit is absolutely nothing like six inches of diamond hard cock.
>>6571003
wrrecked
>>6570692
>This has nothing to do with gender and all to do with maturity.
I find that even grown women don't exhibit much in the way of discipline.
>>6571013
they also do not know the pain of blue balls from saying hard for so long w/o release
>>6571003
>transpeople could never understand about being your respective gender?
literally the title of the thread
>the entire discussion
Your head
>>6571053
Which grown women are they? And is there no vidyagaming male equivalent at that age?
>>6571003
Your a tranny which is still considered a man to most people so yeah you homeless because you a man still.
>>6562378
The psychological shift in your head when girls are around.
>>6562677
It's more along the lines of not being a fucking pussy and being a good m
example. Manhood is all about what you have to offer others.
That eunuch in GoT is more of man than any modern day NEET.
>>6573473
>Manhood is all about what you have to offer others
That's womanhood. Manhood is about making other people do what you want via coercion.
>>6571997
There are, but that tends to be restricted to total losers, whereas the lack of discipline doesn't seem to hold back adult women that much. I just don't think it's terribly necessary for females.
