>>guys always expect me to shell out for a date
>Even the ones who assume im a bottom
am i just ugly or some shit? what is your experience with guys and dates and paying for them adn whatnot?
>dates
no experience.
But I'd either split the bill or escape through the bathroom window.
>>6553512
>am i just ugly or some shit?
Probably
>>6553512
I've always just split unless they're really insistent on paying. I always make sure to ask though so guys don't assume I'm just leading them on if I decide to not continue seeing them. Usually they always seem to insist on paying then expect sex and get all upset when I just walk away to my car. Not my problem most guys are turbocucks lol
>>6553512
Why don't you post a pic of yourself then, potentially ugly anon?
>>6553634
i was being silly and just wanted to know what others experience is like this. cuz every single guy i talk to expects me to take em out to dinner or some shit lately.
>>6553643
I honestly can't tell what you are. Femboy? Masc? Bottom? Top? Fashionable? Tryhard? Cuck? Male? Female? Lesbian?
Maybe that's your problem. You confuse people.
>>6553643
You left your house dressed like that?
>>6553643
When will they learn?
>>6553664
>i cant label you
>therefore you should pay for dinner
how does that make sense? and maybe you focus too much on labels if ur first thought when seeing someone is 'I CANT TELL IF HES A TOP OR A BOTTOM'
>>6553675
erry day, its a popular look in los angeles. i have a huge fucking adams apple so loose ties are more comfortable anyway.
>>6553681
>arrange a date with a nice guy
>amalgamation of LGBT stereotypes, possibly a lesbian, shows up
I'd sue you, senpai.
>>6553512
Do you only date twinks?
>>6553694
nah, half the guys are even older than me and still drop a
>are you buying me dinner (retarded emoji face here).
>>6553689
>arrange a date with a nice guy
>the guy in the picture actually shows up
your logic in no way resembles our earth logic. If you see the guy in the photo as a 'nice guy' and he shows up looking like that, how is he something you didnt expect?
Eww, people do anything but split pay?
>>6553681
>los angeles
There's your problem senpai. Unless you make good money, move somewhere were actual people live.
>>6553710
i make decent money. or rather, i know how to spend it wisely. it just gets annoying after awhile, i mean damn wheres my free dinner?
>>6553708
I'm sorry. I assumed this crime against fashion was not your natural state. You do look like a fratty rich white kid. So maybe you just give out a vibe that attracts moochers?
>>6553728
>crime against fashion
i know this is the /lgbt/ board, but damn thats faggy. sorry I'm not a walking stereotype.
>>6553718
Save up money and move to a first world state or something, then date guys form there. Do you know how to invest?
>>6553734
Your belt buckle is off-center and your tie is as loose as the gaping hole of a 50s prostitute. No one is telling you to be fashionable, but this is just cringy.
>>6553744
this was during a business trip where id forgotten my belt, so had to buy one at a thrift store near my hotel. only way to make the tail not pop out.
>your tie is loose
this is a pretty popular look in los angeles, but to each their own.
the fact that you are so upset with what im wearing is what is cringy.
whatever helps you sleep at night though. you know, alone.
>>6553738
i live in los angeles, and like my job. im not moving to some podunk flyover town just to meet guys who dont expect me to pay for dinner mate.
>>6553643
>they say gay people have good fashion
Kek op they want you to pay because they can tell youre an idiot from looking at the way you dress
>>6553751
You have the option of something like Chicago or NY, although I couldn't guarantee people there will be less pathetic, it's likely.
>>6553751
Just saying that if you dressed respectably people wouldn't expect to get paid for being seen with you.
>>6553763
>my whole life here
Odds are you have the option to work your job for 3-4 years, give them your notice and get similar if not better pay jobs elsewhere. Unless you've already started a mortgage.
>>6553773
>you should move just to see if people expect you to pay for dates less
>this should be a 4 year plan
what? dude, no need to take it seriously, im just gauging other peoples experiences with dates and who pays and whatnot.
i dont want a 'similar' job, i like my job. i dont want a 'similar' house, i like my house. i dont want 'similar friends' i like my friends. Ur an odd one.
>>6553769
thats a solid burn.
>>6553791
If you knew how money well, friends would be the only one that mattered, and not being able to sustain distance friendships is normie problems.
It's good though.
>>6553830
>if you knew how money well, friends would be the only one that mattered
if you knew English well, responding to you would be the only thing that mattered, but I have to sit here and decipher what the fuck you mean.
that being said, what does money have to do with liking my job? i could go work in any office in America easily enough, but that doesn't replace the job i have here. its a very specific unique field. Plus im here in los angeles for, you know, the filmmaking, and would be out of that loop elsewhere. just cuz indie filmmakers exist in those areas does not make it remotely the same thing. but i like my job, i like my boss, and i like my friends.
>not being able to sustain distance firendships is a normie problems
what? are you suggesting that i should get up and move to another state with the hope that i will be less expected to shell out ten dollars for sushi, and just do 'distance friendships'?
I actually hang out with my friends,
jesus are you as retarded as you sound?
>>6553851
>san fran film industry that drinks with friends
Excuse me, I didn't know how much of a boring normalfag you were. Carry on then.
>>6553866
>san fran film industry that drinks with friends
what? what the hell are you talking about?
>>6553643
You look trashy in this pic.
Clothes are probably more expensive than my life savings, but that's besides the point.
Just wear something casual when dating.
Also show butt.
>>6553905
>you look trashy
>clothes are more expensive than my life savings
the shirt cost 10 bucks, the tie cost maybe 15 idk, it was a present.
>just wear something casual when dating
sometimes I do. sometimes I dont. the pic is used on my tinder profile until recently and i match well enough and get dates, but a lot of them expect me to pay for dinner. not all or even most, just a lot.
if people think i look trashy im okay with it, but doesnt explain why they expect me to pay so much
>>6553919
>the shirt cost 10 bucks, the tie cost maybe 15 idk, it was a present.
Oh well I guess my life savings are a bit more then.
>until recently
Good. Show current one and let us judge again.
Also you haven't shown your butt yet.
>>6553919
I think it's a combination of grindr and your area.
>>6553932
>show us the recent one
I got off tinder. i prefer the chase in real life to be honest. with tinder you can literally schedule a different guy for each night of the week with zero effort. turning it off encourages me to talk to people out and about. can get laid on the bus if you try, but tinder kinda distracts from that. plus the constant texting.
>show butt
im not a bottom but here you go.
>>6553933
grindr im not required to pay for dates. there rarely ever are dates. grindrs just straight to sex, and while im not really into relationships i do like to 'get a know' a guy before we do stuff. tinder has been the better option, but a lot of the guys insist on a date first, and its rarely just walking around playing pokemon GO (though one is taking me urban exploring.
>>6553977
>im not a bottom but
>>6554056
im not. but i post my ass a LOT on /b/ and take requests there and whatnot
faget
>>6553618
This. I ask to split every time, but guys insist on paying for me 90% of the time. And about half of the time expect sex after that. Most of the guys ive been in LTRs with have payed for literally everything. One guy after texting a long time and dating for just a couple days took me out shopping, didnt buy a thing for himself, but bought me $600 in clothes. He was rich AF obvs, but still.
>>6554911
interesting. even if i get with a bit of an older guy they seem to get offended at the idea of taking me out to dinner first. if ur not willin to bang em right away, you must be shallow.
>>6555034
>if ur not willin to bang em right away, you must be shallow
Kek?
>>6555034
Older guys are wary of being used as sugar daddies and have every right to be so.
>>6555044
as in, only after their money.
>>6555063
not saying they dont, i created this thread cuz im tired of guys expecting me to buy em dinner as well. but i dont label the guys to an extreme and say they're only talking to me to get a meal.
one of the guys who expected me to pay was older than me, worked in finance, and had a huge apartment in fucking downtown la. said id take him to sushi then suggested the msot expensive fucking restaurant in town.
bought us ten dollar tuna rolls somewhere else.
>>6553512
you just live in a bad neighborhood and/or date blacks...
move and/or stop dating blacks
>>6554911
god, i hate you!
>>6555087
i live in hollywood... so i guess neighborhood quality is debateable but its not like im limited to guys in my neighborhood. 30 mile radius.
tend to avoid blacks cuz the hot ones are tops and the bottoms are ugly.
>>6555094
you never have a guy offer you taht before? i mean i never got the 600 bit but just a few weeks ago some 'dad' wanted to make me his agressive cocky boyfriend who makes him by me nice shoes and clothes
>>6555034
If you go on a date and it doesn't work out you're obviously not going to have sex with the person. If you offer to pay for someone under the intention of sex that's your own fault. I get that some guys think it's a power move to establish dominance but in reality it just shows zero forethought because going on one date does not imply that you're entitled to sex, or even a second date at that. You go on dates to determine whether you're compatible and most of the time it will not work out.
>>6555135
nah its not like that man. i dont think ive ever been on a date where the guy didnt want to have sex after. i mean its gay dudes, if you look liek your photo, and they agreed to go on a date with you, there is going to be sex.
the issue isnt that i pay for dates and then dont get sex. the issue is just that people presume im taking them out all the time. with grindr you just bang which sucks, but i like the middle ground of dudes coming over to play some video games.
either way, i am simply asking people what their experiences are with these types of situations. not demanding i get laid or whatever.
>>6555075
>said id take him to sushi
>being this cheap
if you invite him out then you should pay.
the person who asks is the one who pays.
>>6553512
Top pays.
This isn't debatable.
>>6555155
>i like the middle ground of dudes coming over to play some video games.
invite someone over and have food available: pizza, chinese, whatever.
>>6555119
>makes him by me nice shoes
That's called a cashfag
>>6555172
sure. if I ask a guy OUT to something like sushi, i always pay. i think its rude to suggest something like that if you arent prepared to cover it. on one of the few dates i had where the guy was nice but not up to looks, i still paid even though he offered.
but its not just him, and that doesn't mean they should instantly chime in with the most expensive restaurant where it costs 25 bucks for two pieces of sushi.
whats worse
>we have second date
>wants to take me out to chipotle
>offers to pay
>i agree
>shwo up
>were in line
>hes ahead of me
>gets his burito
>pays
>leaves me at the counter
>im standing there looking dumb
>pay for burrito myself
awkward as fug
>>6555181
Virgin detected.
I'm an escort and literally all of my clients are bottoms and THEY pay for everything, not me.
>>6555186
I usually do. its somewhat effective but some guys (on tinder mind you) do not like it, and then try to push for a restaurant.
i tend to cook dinner whenever possible. all my moneys tied up setting up an airbnb
>>6555189
thats basically what he wanted me to be, but he wasnted me to like move in and be his long term bf and burp in his face.
>>6555198
>awkward as fug
how is this awkward? did you forget your purse? are you not a man? can you not pay for yourself?
>being this entitled
grow up. mommy and daddy aren't going to take care of you forever.
>>6555204
>he wanted me to like move in and be his long term bf and burp in his face
Yeah, cashfags are mentally ill usually. Not worth the trouble in my estimation.
>>6555202
Yeah, but you're literally a whore. We're talking about real relationships here. That thing a used up slut like you will never have.
>>6555214
>how is it awkward for a guy to ask you out, insist he will pay, then just elave you at the counter
>its like you're human or something
jesus, can you calm the fuck down? how am i entitled? i bought him dinner FIRST he offered to take me out the next time, then just forgot without warning.
jesus, what world do you live in where every little thing someone says has to be a reflection of their entire fucking life?
i make good money, i usually pay for dates. i was just noting how awkward it was being left at the counter suddenly.
>>6555219
not really my scene, was a weird conversation.
>>6553512
I always offer to pay it anyway, I don't know why. Only person who never at least offered to split it with me ended up bleeding my wallet dry for six months to the point I was eating cereal for months paying for their things.
This guy was also the most fem. I know correlation != causation...
>>6555228
>real relationships
>arguing about who is going to pay
okay
>>6555233
>insist he will pay, then just leave you at the counter
you must not look like your pics and he had second thoughts and decided you weren't worth the cost of a burrito. next time use recent pics. and bring $20. what if he left you by the side of the road without cab fare? would you curl up in a ball and die?
>>6555247
>This guy was also the most fem
wanting someone else to pay for them is what women do. it is practically their defining feature.
>>6555263
dude, you are overreacting and making quite the amount of assumptions.
1) i do look like my pics
2) this was the SECOND DATE
3) we'd already had sex
4) I did have money, i paid for him, met him at the table
5) he remembered, laughed, and offered to just give me the cash. i said no.
stop making assumptions. despite the saying, it only makes an ass out of yourself.
>>6555247
D'awww. That's really sweet, anon.
I know you tend to get endlessly mocked for spending all your money on your partner these days, but I still think it's romantic. If I found a guy like that, I'd do everything I could to make him happy.
>>6555219
This dude who bought me clothes on the second date wasnt mentally ill. He was actually a psuedo celebrity. If you google him lots of stuff will come up. (25 or so tv interviews and articles and shit) but if you mentioned his name to someone they would have no clue who he is unless they worked in that field and in that city. Also i think the reason so many guys pay for stuff foe me is because im a student and guys think im poor. I broke up with him because he was kindof arrogant and i felt he didnt respect me enough. Sometimes i regret it because i mean money is nice lol.
>>6555277
>we'd already had sex
there's your problem.
guy's don't pay for things AFTER they've had sex with you...
>>6555320
jesus i know gays are catty, but combine them with the general retardation of 4chan and they become the uber cunt.
good luck with your life man, i cant even argue with you at this point. just go outside.
>>6555277
>he remembered, laughed, and offered to just give me the cash. i said no.
if it was that important to you (and clearly it was for you to be bringing it up later on a vietnamese card-shuffling blog) you should have just taken the money. maybe he actually forgot. some people have senility which includes forgetfulness. see also, alzheimers.
you hide your feelings from him and pretend to be someone you're not while internalizing all this anger. i'm surprised you got a second date.
>>6555307
Nice humble brag.
"I'm so HOT people literally throw money at me!"
>>6555339
what? my ultimate response to the situation was 'awkward as fuck' not 'HOW DARE HE SLIGHT ME LIKE THIS.
you guys take everything you read too seriously. i came here asking peoples experiences with the expectation of dates.
this guys nice and we still hang out and smash every two weeks.
you guys act like you either have to be 100% happy and silent wiht whats happening, or uber butthurt mad.
cant a guy just talk about his dating experiences and compare noets?
chillllllllll outttttt.
>>6555344
I never said i was hot. But yes i am. And I'm a good conversationalist when I'm not posting shit with no filter anon on memechan. My main weakness is depression just to throw something in so y'all dont think im a total dillweed. Also i was pretty lucky to meet a rich dude who became instantly enfatuated with me lmao.
>>6555375
>im so beautiful but my life is tragic im so sad
that just makes you more of a dilweed bro. i wasnt even gonna comment cuz like you ive been there with guys just offering to buy you stuff all the time, but making 'derpression' your fatal flaw is... well its literally twilight.
>>6555398
Fuck my life is a meme. Feelsbadman
Thought depression might be relatable since lgbt thread and high rates of it etc. Had hard time dealing with not being straight. Internalized homophobia yada yada everybody here knows the struggle.
>>6555426
we've all been there but hte way you bring it up
>my weakness is depression
made me kek man.
>>6553643
I think your really cute actually, your just a bit too serious in the pic though
>>6555375
i was just giving you a hard time, anon. because i like to give pretty boys a hard time.
i'm sorry to hear you struggle with depression.
yes it is common, but it is real.
take care of yourself and find interesting things to do to keep yourself occupied.
<hugs>
i don't think you're a dillweed.
>>6555706
Thanks man. Right now working on making art and stuff to build up my portfolio, because im too fucked up to go back to art school right now. but it's kinda hard when you arent sure if you are good enough and friends and shit say you are, but you really dont know. Because i mean if my friend showed me shit art i'd be like "it's good!" too.
>>6555660
i dont look good smiling in pics, so i dont tend to. i think a lot of people have this problem. in real life i look fine but yeah.
>>6556024
Nah senpai your pretty cute, I never really smile in pics ever, but ive never thought of myself as being attractive
>>6556152
well thats a downer, why? i dont think im /not/ cute, jsut that smiles make me look weird in photos. im not very photogenic to begin with, takes the right ones.
>>6553643
You look like a guy that should buy me dinner.
Had a rich guy pay for dinner once. He just sat there, said he wasn't hungry and paid for me to stuff my face. Shit was weird
>>6555301
>Keeping your cash cow happy
How is escorting these days?
I always insist on paying when on a date, if I like the guy enough to ask him out to dinner then I like him enough to pay for a meal.
But I have also had my fair share of ex-boyfriends who in hindsight were probably using me for my money..
>>6553512
gay men have no manners, before transitioning I went out with a guy who didn't pay for my movie ticket. suffice it to say, I stopped responding to his texts
The rule of thumb is that the one that invites the other person for the date is the one paying.
But assuming the other person is going to pay is bad form.
I always make sure we pay 50/50, and do so for a while before I mention I'm loaded. Just to make sure they don't date me for money. Sometimes I pretent I'm poor for the same reason.
>>6553643
>those whites under those eyes
You look like you're going to burn the whole middle school to the ground.
>>6557558
i get that a lot. they word it as 'you remind me of evan peters'. but they only ever mean from season 1 of AHS so...
it seems to work for me though.
>>6557521
and i dont mind that rule, but when i invite them over to just play video games or watch a movie its always
>UHM... SHOULDNT WE HANG OUT IN PUBLIC FIRST?
and if i cave, they still expect me to pay.
mind you this isnt across the board, just a growing trend ive noticed the last six months.
