Fedora edition
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▶ Trans Info Dump: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/edit?usp=sharing
▶ MtF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
▶ Beginner makeup resources: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶ Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶ Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
▶ Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
▶ HRT info: https://web.archive.org/web/0000000000000/http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶ Cis women of all sizes to make you feel better about yourself: http://www.mybodygallery.com/
▶ Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶ IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
▶ Zeemaps: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968
>>6553265
better do it mane dat cash.
>>6553267
cute
>>6553270
Don't fuck dogs.
>>6553271
I'm Bexe's gf, pretty unremarkable otherwise
>tfw haircut tomorrow and no idea what to ask for
Halp I have never had long hair before
>>6553275
oh!!
I know bexe :3
hello tetra!
>>6553279
>Halp I have never had long hair before
heresy
>>6553264
All massively oversaturated. Every autist and his dog is doing a physics chemistry or biology degree when there are only a few research positions available.
>>6553279
you should just shave it off. why try hiding your manface? everyone else sees it just fine
>>6553272
I don't fuck dogs.
I pet them.
>>6553279
You ask for a haircut!
>>6553271
Ye, add my on skype so I can tell you in private or somefin
parachute.pirate
>>6553279
"Just fuck my shit up"
>>6553267
mado were do you get your guro images
i want to save them
>>6553281
She's more involved, I think
You're the one who was taking crazy high prog doses, right?
Does /mtfg/ like magical girl anime?
>>6553279
>fuvk my shit up will cute.
![kaname_madoka_render___puella_magi_madoka_magica_by_justrainbowf-d7go8t7[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/QSu2g0W.png "kaname_madoka_render___puella_magi_madoka_magica_by_justrainbowf-d7go8t7[1].png")
>>6553295
only the cutesy happy ones :)
>>6553281
I've had chin length ;-;
No bully
>>6553284
Yeah but do I want bangs, do I want layering, do I want a style that looks good straight or wavy?
>>6553286
>>6553297
Not meming, this is basically what I've always done
>>6553282
>oversaturated means impossible
>>6553304
>BTFO
>no comebacks
>>6553304
I don't know what you look like, so I have no idea what to suggest bb
>bf and I had an argument
>kinda mad at him
>its his fault but I compromise and agree with him
>but still want revenge
>tell him I'll give him a bj as an apology
>eat a dozen jalapeno peppers right before it
success :3
>>6553283
But hair doesn't hide my man face, that's what makeup is for
>>6553310
When you get older you learn that sometimes arguing just isn't worth your time. Don't mistake people getting tired of arguing for being convincing.
>>6553317
Now thats a spicy blowjob.
any idea what STPD to get ?
want one for hiking in asia next month
>>6553317
Seems needlessly mean
>>6553292
yes. would not recommend, unless youre an addict anyway.
>>6553284
it okay, carol told me. thanks tho <3
>>6553304
really? I thought you had posted a picture with longer hair like 6 months ago?
>>6553317
what was his reaction
thats fucking hilarious
>>6553312
Hi it me
>>6553330
That was the first time it was that long, I've been growing it out, and I lost a bunch of that length during my next haircut because the ends were damaged ;-;
>>6553325
those disposable one-use paper ones if you must
it takes less weight in total since you don't have to clean them out with water (unless you have 24/7 access to water) and are overall more sanitary friendly
>>6553339
I'll cut you
>>6553339
ELANNA A CUTEST
Welp.
3 months hrt, -makeup +automatic phone filter -sleep -shaving
I'm feeling pretty okay.
https://unsee
cc/zebusida/
>>6553319
>BTFO
>"Arguing isn't worth my time!"
>catch up with childhood best friend's mom
>she tells me how pretty I am and asks if im trans now
>intelligence her yeah and she says my old best friend is a fem trans too
>im surprised but in retrospect it was obvious
>she gives me her support and a hug
>tells me birds of a feather flock together
hm. i guess i was destined to be a tranny lol. its cool that my old bff decided to transition though. i wanna meet him soon. c:
Robin's back?
>>6553339
Wow you're qt
>>6553355
>intelligence
fucking phone. tell her yeah* ftm trans**
>>6553338
I started at like 300 or 400mg, but I went up to 2,5g (thats nearly half of LD50 for my weight I think?) within a few weeks, cause tolerance rises really fast. at which point, youre going to feel the hangovers for days and your liver will start struggling as well.
prog metabolizes to a benzo-alike, you get the same high from proper benzos, with a lot less bad sideeffects and a lot cheaper.
I only did that cause I couldnt take proper benzos without my bf noticing.
>>6553356
No he just needed a little reminding why he can't come here anymore
>>6553354
You come across as autistic, angry, and rarely if ever concede points. Why would anyone want to talk to you at all?
Should I buy a 3ds?
>>6553365
Yes, buy one and hack it.
>>6553362
>still hasn't disproved anything I said
>now throwing ad hominems trip off
>>6553365
if you do make sure its a new 3ds for maximum funs
>>6553346
I'd appreciate it, I'll give headpats if you make them deep.
>>6553347
._. thanks
>>6553354
No, like I just don't think either of us is going to convince the other. Your point is valid, but I also know just how many people find rewarding careers in the sciences, they really need to be the best of the best though.
>>6553358
Thank you ._.
>>6553268
<3
>>6553289
http://touch.pixiv.net/member.php?id=234068
http://aosora444.tumblr.com
My favorite artist. They even made the Mado pictures I use but deleted them forever ago for some reason
>>6553374
Agree to disagree. Fair enough.
>they really need to be the best of the best though.
Yeah this is the problem, it's very competitive.
>Tfw just ran out of my prescription but guests are over and I can't just refill that shit in front of them
I just found a stash of sissification photos on my gfs laptop bcuz shes a dominatrix.
I'm not into this shit I swear...
>>6553395
Kek
>>6553391
>not just refilling and taking your gril pills in front of people
It's not like they can tell what pills you're taking unless you show them the label.
>>6553392
Oh ;-; ok
Well thanks though
>>6553389
gopher it anon
>>6553359
you are ftm?
>>6553385
Hey loca you like to listen to shakira?
>>6553395
So hot
>>6553395
wait is she dating you because of her sissy fetish?
is she cis?
>>6552089
If i could leave all of you with anything it would be "done ever drink everclear".
I've actually met the guy in the OP
He dry humped me after pinning me down, in highschool.
>>6553401
no actually
>>6553407
Kek
>>6553365
Don't
save your money for the future instead
>>6553404
>>6553402
She is a super submissive cis girly girl. She's a dom because she has anger and it pays real well.
It's all a facade...
Dieting is literally the worst
>>6553384
ty senpai <3
>>6553414
It's an old picture, too.
He'd taken it before i even met him, when i was, like, 16. Maybe 15?
>>6553418
yummy. You could eat corn and potatoes, jaye. You have a cheat day too right?
>>6553412
:/ oh
*don't ever drink everclear.
>>6553429
It's a mistake you only ever make once
>>6553429
It's literally the only thing I drink
>>6553417
why else would you dom?
>>6553432
What do you mean you people ;p
I'm eating like 300 calories and trying to burn 1k+ More in the gym a few times a week >.>
>>6553428
Cheat days are weekends when I have to socialize and don't want to sit in a resturaunt and stare at people eating
>>6553452
what kind of bourgie-ass social circle do you have where people go to restaurants just for socializing
>>6553452
those scallops...Last night I made clam chowder with hella onions and then I added shrimp cocktail to it.
>>6553432
tfw its physically painful for you to eat more than two small meals a day
can I switch metabolisms or something with someone
>"im glad you got raped faggot. the only tragedy is that it wasnt a murder too"
>". . . ilu 2 ma."
>"fuck you i want that 13$ you owe me."
this is the type of shit i have to forgive constantly whenever she's mad. desu my patience reserves are running low. i find it funny she has the audacity to call herself a "" ""Christian""" and teach a bible study while acting like this to her daughter
>>6553483
why would you love someone who treats you like that
just shut her out of your life jesus
>>6553483
you got raped?
>>6553483
Protect and love the Korra.
>>6553483
>daughter
lol you are so funny xd
>>6553356
I saw robin post in another thread with trip
>>6553463
You don't eat at a restaurant 9 times a week? I got pic related for 2.60 at the sushi place by my house
>>6553468
I mean I love lobster rolls butttt, yah it depends how much they are, if typically just want the lobster, crab rolls though
>>6553465
stawppppppp killing me
>>6553480
Mhmmmm
>>6553480
Idk idk at all. sorry :(
Are you 100% black? What cultures do you identify with most?
fuck anime
>>6553483
You gotta get out of there. Yr life is gonna be so great when you become independent of that evil. You're strong. The devil is in the details.
>>6553501
U don't fuck the anime, the anime fucks u
>>6553499
There's no way you got that for $2.60, do you mean $12.60 or something? If not, where the fuck is this crazy cheap sushi place?
They kicked me out for dis photo
>>6553511
anime doesn't fuck with me
it isn't a part of my life in the slightest
>>6553517
lol do tell
>>6553517
Of all the things to get kicked out of a porn store for.
hello
>>6553517
You're the one that decided to put on those overalls not them.
>>6553517
also you really pull off those overalls
You stuff yr bra? How long on hrt?
>>6553522
Hey nim :) what are you doing?
>>6553523
>TFW a hon critiques yo fashion
>>6553515
Place near my house, it's already cheap, lunch is half price, happy hour is even cheaper. Lots of good deals at resturaunts around my place.
>>6553526
nothing
im always doing nothing
how are you?
>>6553517
Dollface without the heavy makeup
I finally have tiiiiiiiits
https://unsee.
cc/piredatu/
>>6553530
I'm doing nothing too
You have any goals for the day?
I'm going to study math for my placement exam for 2 hours and clean my kitchen and bathroom.
>tfw qtpa2t gf
>>6553522
suh
go do something
>>6553539
no i dont have any goals
im just sad that i have to wait an extra day for my medication
>>6553534
Post the nipples
>>6553534
good job growing tits
>>6553524
8 months Its a push up bra g0rl
>>6553552
for yr adhd medication? When are you going to your counselor?
>>6553534
qttbh
tfw panic attack rn
>>6553534
Yay, Basic boobs
>>6553567
It's OK. It'll be alright. Where are you rn? Can you get somewhere quiet?
>>6553517
Why do these stores still exist?
>>6553559
yea
i went to my first therapy session with a regular therapist yesterday but i didnt mention any trans stuff
ive been kicking myself a bit for not saying anything but that's okay
the gender counselor hasn't gotten back to me yet..
>>6553573
im in bed
>"i think they're just trying to be cheap"
>"jinx"
>"jinx"
>"jinx"
>>6553528
Well, I'm jealous then.
>>6553500
>Are you 100% black?
Yes
>What cultures do you identify with most?
Jamaican/British I suppose.
>>6553581
OK that's good. Just try to breathe. And remember you're going to be OK. Nothing bad can happen to you now and this will be over soon.
>>6553577
Nice
It's hard. I went through 3 therapists growing up and I told my fourth and current one my problem in the first email. Is your therapist female? You're gonna make it :)
>>6553577
Yep this was me I just couldn't bring myself to say it
>>6553591
im scared
it's too early for alcohol and pot unfortunately
>>6553594
I know. But I promise it's going to be alright. Just breathe and it'll all go away
>>6553592
You need to get Skype
i wish my gf was holding me
>>6553592
i dunno she seems nice but i think its more with me too
i have this case of impostor syndrome with being trans, like im not really trans im just saying i am for attention or whatever
it makes it harder to say out loud
Same
If I had a nickel for every time that happened... I'd have a quarter? Idk where I was going with this
>>6553589
Santianna, Secoiya, Shalesia, Shannel, Shantel were cool jamaican girl names i just looked up.
Sybele is a phrygian goddess. Irrelevant but I like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTOHQCiwRTU
wow voice IS important.
>>6553499
nop offense fampai but that doesnt look like terribly great sushi. cheap can make it taste better though
>>6553517
You are a woman you shouldn't be this funny.
i really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really love my gf
>>6553611
>>6553534
Basic tits
>>6553625
No you don't have to show your face
we wont run out of conversation im very talkative
cmon get skype
im going to play a video games i expect you to have skype when i get back :p
and no i don't like those names
>>6553620
I'm jelly.
is it weird that i can only really see myself ending up with a guy who doesn't look at all generic even tho i go after conventionally attractive men?
like i see myself with someone who looks like pic related and standing next to anyone else who looks normal just feels weird/off/bad to me.
>>6553635
joan pie
Hey /mtfg/ leaving in a bit to hangout with a friend. What's new?
>>6553615
Oh it was very borderline, buttttt I mean Grocerry store sushi is like $8 so this wins, I ate a $14 roll with red in San Fran that was obviously fishy, so like idk it can be a shit show getting the good stuff sometimes
>>6553636
I think it's pretty weird yeah, but that's not a bad thing really :3
>>6553644
nice puppy
>>6553632
I haven'y shaved or bathed and I'm not ready
:( Can we do this later? I have people over so I'm in boymode also laptops dying and if i get up to charge it i'm not comin back to 4chan until later
>>6553640
I need to get around to generating a new tripcode, 'pie' isn't supposed to be part of my name...
>>6553636
So would you date a guy who looks like Seal
>>6553642
Good choice of pringles
tfw in the feels stage and only have bullying to look forward to
>>6553642
I don't like those stickers..
>>6553642
You kinda look like Donna
I want to be cute but im not :(
>>6553642
how do I look EXACTLY like you
>>6553653
Edies here shouldn't be long now
>>6553620
hey i do that too
>>6553636
I don't think it's really weird at all, I know my gf really loves that I like to dress strangely and am strange compared to her very normie style and attitude. The comparison highlights both of us and its really cute.
>>6553644
desu it's about finding a place that cares. My fave place in Louisiana was run by a guy with a masters in physics who had a really good career and decided he just wanted to make sushi. went to the fish market and bought everything himself every day, really amazing food. I've spent double what it costr there for significantly worse quality. sushi is a labor of love and effort more than most other foods since you taste the ingredients in their raw form. a lot of places in cities tend to use substitutes as well, which taste very different but are a lot cheaper.
>>6553660
That's 70's show
>>6553612
I had similar issues with airport security. Thankfully, I had all my SRS papers with me. But having to out myself and explain at length at every check with people waiting behind was stressful. I never consistently passed as an adult male, but now it's nearly impossible...
>>6553625
i dont know who the best version of me is
i dont think there's ever been a good version of me
>>6553653
>not being in that stage on a near permanent basis
only pizza can quench the rage
>>6553669
The you I know seems pretty good to me?
>>6553666
Oh yeah I get that a lot. I fucking love her
help
>>6553668
Does your country do pre-checks? You wouldn't be hassled as much
>>6553642
i like the color bb! nothin really idk, the usual. rn i'm just gettin ready to go do some stuff myself. bleaching my eyebrows atm tho.
>>6553646
w-well ok ;-;
>>6553650
ye of course. and punks like pic related make me ridic wet idk why lmao
>>6553663
i guess i just feel like because of how weird i like to look a lot of the time or how i feel about my look i don't look right next to normies idk?
>>6553677
Maybe I should have said Alex Vause
please im very scared i can't move
>>6553673
im okay but people just get tired of me
>>6553684
>wet
when did you get srs
>>6553688
what happened?
why cant you move
i want to kill myself
my parents hate me, my boyfriend hates me
i'm worthless and stupid
i wish i could just wake up dead tomorrow
>>6553693
Edie does leak sometimes
>>6553669
why do you think you are trans?
what makes you think you are trans?
do you have any personality disorders?
do you realize estrogen will make further think you are trans if you aren't in the first place?
what would going through transition actually do for you?
>>6553695
its because im scared
i took the Xanax it didn't help
>>6553696
h
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ps://ww
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CYC0C7oM
._.
wow i never realized there was this many pretty girls on 4chan
>>6553690
I don't think the people here have gotten tired of you yet. Are you sure that it's not more that you're projecting you feelings of being tired of yourself onto others?
>>6553678
Shut the fuck up
>>6553678
>http:
>//pu
>u.sh
>/q0w
>YJ/07
>c6d0
>f23.jpg
No access...
>>6553683
It was the first time I was flying since I went full-time. And I thought I still looked enough like my passport photo. I don't. All facial recognition systems flagged me as a mismatch and the security staff all required an explanation. Not going through that again until I get my full ID change.
>>6553706
Hey don't bully Oryx
>>6553699
>why do you think you are trans?
i never felt okay in my own skin, fantasized about being a girl, etc. im gonna bring it up at my next therapist appointment to sort that question out.
>do you have any personality disorders?
no
>do you realize estrogen will make further think you are trans if you aren't in the first place?
yea probably
>what would going through transition actually do for you?
the hope is that it would make me feel good in my own skin
i guess i could always go back if i realized that it wasn't helping
i think im gonna detrans to live out my fujoshi fantasies k thnx bai
>>6553703
maybe it is
it's difficult to convince yourself otherwise
>>6553717
>tfw thinking about this recently
>>6553700
whats scaring you so much :(
xanax takes some time, how much did you take?
>>6553717
>tfw all youd have to do is cut your hair
>but then youd probably not pass like at all
>>6553684
>tfw Stacey trys to up her rep after literally a lifetime of fucking Chad/currently fucking Chad
>>6553716
so if you seem to have dysphoria, what is this concern with being an imposter or whatever?
are you autistic? do you tend to latch onto groups/people when you don't know how to feel yourself?
(not trying to insult w/ the autism question)
>>6553727
>tfw just andro so i could keep doing what im doing for boymode and ask my bf to ignore my tits or call them gyno
>>6553721
you feel it too?
>>6553727
iktf
I cut my hair to detrans but still don't pass as a boy ;_;
>>6553726
How do you stop it
>tfw browbone is huge and i need ffs
>tfw all i notice are the masculine aspects of my face and body
>tfw i'll never feel like a woman
>tfw will always be a freak to everyone
>tfw i'll never be beautiful unless i have ffs
>tfw there are so many things in life i want to do and spend money on
>tfw can't do them if i want ffs
>tfw i'm going to piss away my 20s being depressed and ugly
>tfw i'll age horribly bc trans
>tfw you never see old passable trannies
>tfw you'll probably kill yourself before 40
>tfw you'll never see astronauts on mars
>>6553727
Same
>>6553717
That's the point
>>6553721
Same
>>6553726
Same
>>6553726
i leak so much precum it can be embarrassing
like my entire underpants get wet
>>6553732
you dktf at all
Id never pass as a gir if I cut my hair
its literally the only reason I have long hair
I want short hair too ok
>>6553711
I've had enough is that clear?
>>6553729
Stacy also like the bad boy Chad. What be the name for the bad boy Chad?
>>6553743
No. I don't want that.
>>6553735
I mean I'm 38
>>6553749
I'm not sure how feel about this image
>>6553730
no im not autistic
i dont think i have a tendency to attach myself to groups like that
i just have this skepticism about all this when a lot of people just know FOR SURE that this is the way they are
that's what's maining fueling it..
>>6553729
hey!! i've been saying this stuff for awhile now ;_; there's just no guys that i could see myself ending up with where i live now. i guess it'll change once i move tho sigh
>>6553733
by having sex
>>6553735
none of that is tru tbqh
well unless you really don't know any older trans women who pass. i know tons that do, but they've all been on HRT for decades.
>>6553741
>passing at all regardless of hairstyle
We can play that game if you want.
>>6553756
Very few of us really knew FOR SURE without quite a lot of fretting and doubting and actually trying and seeing if transition was right for us.
>>6553747
you got un-banned? how are you?
To transition or not to transition. Thatis the question. Do you just do it like Shila Lebouf? Or do you repress?
>>6553767
d o i t
>>6553760
Why what happened? And that's fine with me.
>>6553767
If you're trans you'll likely break eventually. May as well transition while there's life worth living left.
>>6553760
w-what
>>6553764
You ever get that fear that you'll snap out of it maybe a year down the line and think "oh god what have I done?"
>>6553767
If you repress you're just going to transition later and have a harder time because you're older and more masculinized and HRT is less effective and you just plain have less life left to get your shit together. Seriously, just Lebouf it.
>>6553767
just do it idk. i just put on makeup and a dress when i was 18 and bam done.
>>6553775
Lol and how do you know for sure you are trans? Some magical switch or lever?
>>6553759
>mtfg always compliments her looks
i don't know wtf you are smoking, mtfg is always calling me hideous and unpassable
>>6553760
I'll fucking kill you
>>6553777
Honestly, not any more, no.
>>6553780
I want to see punk Edie
Is it normal to have patches and stripes of untouched hair after a laser hair appointment? I feel kinda pissed off that I spent $270+tax+tip on one treatment and parts of the face were wholly missed. Probably will see someone else.
>>6553765
sshhh.. Im okay.
>>6553772
I dunno the group doesn't have any volunteers for the groups despte the fact I said I would be willing to help out, its like they're being stringent for no reason.. Also we can still meet up I dunno lmao. Their next session is in September.
>tfw wanted to to go the JTA meetting up missed out so can't attend future sessions
._.
>>6553776
you know.. Lil JJ? 14 year old who started hormones at 8?
>>6553780
but you weren't 6' at that age Edie, Lmao
>>6553784
=]
>>6553783
Your looks are fine. You're no beauty queen, but if you ever get clocked, you can be sure they're not the issue.
>right side of my tummy where my liver is is hurting
fuck this was one of the side effects of Cypro, right?
Only been on it 2 weeks
>>6553780
This is realllly bad though
>>6553787
idk if punk me exists, but i used to look a lot more ~alternative~ forever ago lol
>>6553789
n-no
>>6553792
being tall is nice idk. i wear heels lots to pretend to be tall myself.
>>6553799
I would worry if I were you. When's your blood test?
>2 emails from the /mtfg/ map
>pretty sure they're both chasers
>>6553799
Could just be a passing pain. Is that all or do you have other stuff? If so you might wanna consult a doc but you're probably fine if you're just feeling a random pain for no reason
>>6553783
because you are
some trips just hugbox hons to make themselves feel like better people
>>6553798
I CANT
H E L P
>>6553802
Good argument, here's my rebuttal:
y-yes
>>6553805
Why does your face resemble a square? Faces are supposed to be round.
>>6553808
oh, ok!
does that work?
>>6553805
>being on the map
>>6553810
im sorry :(
>>6553814
what
>>6553783
The fact that you pass is the only reason why anyone puts up with your shit here.
>>6553786
But you did at the beginning right?
>>6553792
Lol what has us meeting have to do with that group? I just wanted to hang out on Shepherd's Bush Green remember? Anyway as I said whenever you're ready, I'm in no hurry as you know.
>>6553799
Your liver's gone. R.I.P
>>6553802
qt
>>6553808
I'm not saying that it's inevitable, but a large number of people that try repressing end up either transitioning later or giving up on life. I'm not saying you can't be the exception to the rule, but, even if you manage that, will you actually be happy?
Oh boy my parents are pushing me to come out soon and my dad really wants me to use my masculine-androgynous middle name going forward and I don't have a problem with keeping it around as part of my name but I don't think it would do me any favors in social passing to go by something that is primarily a masculine name but on the flip side I don't pass so well so it's probably a fine stepping stone but the -implications- of my dad not being able to accept that I want to live my life as a girl and wanting to call me something masculine and aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
