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Previous: >>6539009
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>>6540438
>>6540438
WE NEED SOMEONE TO SNAP BILL OUT OF IT
>>6540454
>>6540438
Slightly disappointed that they didn't shoop the poster in the back.
>>6540462
cool cat
>tfw no sucky fuckies
I want off of this neverpass ride but don't know what to do to make myself look more passing. What do?
>>6540469
sucks to be you famalam
>>6540438
Trying to get info on what to do, I'm pre HRT, if I know a endocrinologist, do I still need to go to a general physician to get a recomendation, or can I just make an apt. with the endo?
would /mtfg/ want to meet nim irl?
not that i wouldn't be too scared to
>>6540470
What about yourself do you feel is not passing right now?
>>6540469
use your imagination
>>6540469
same
i'll suck your dick if you suck mine?
>>6540479
Face.
>>6540478
Someday maybe, why not?
>>6540478
I'm not scary
>>6540478
yes
however meeting anyone for me would make them instantly clockable because I'm an obvious tranny
>>6540484
Sounds like a deal, I'm packing a lot of heat fyi
>>6540472
I hope your quest for penis soaked precum is going better
>>6540483
Everyday famalam
>>6540438
>I'm not /mtfg/ but...
My compliments to OP. Love the They Live reference.
>>6540469
Im only down to sword fight.
Mfw people vote for trump
>>6540495
:^)
>>6540469
just get into fashion, theres a style for everybody.
>>6540496
Same
>>6540503
>>6540503
>Mfw people vote for trump
>>6540495
They grow up so fast.
>>6540459
bill is gone
she has sucked the life from him
>>6540492
>What about your face.
In general. People just say I don't pass it's probably a slew of things. Like I need ffs for nose and chin but aside from that I don't think it'd still pass.
>>6540493
>post a pic i'll see if i can help
Uh, can I post it somewhere more private I'm too self conscious rn even for unsee?
>>6540515
Daily reminder:
Passing =\= being pretty.
>>6540497
Its an everlasting quest :)
>>6540515
Well, if you can figure out the specifics about what seems off about your face then you can try things with makeup and such, but if you can't really tell why you think it looks bad I don't know if there's a good way to recommend what you should do.
>>6540505
Bend over and pass the lube bb
>>6540502
*cockslaps u*
>>6540508
This is my jam
>>6540521
Like one of those mmorpgs but with more penis?
>>6540496
im not exactly much better off
>>6540520
so who's here that's pretty?
a-and will they post feet? :3
>>6540522
a work boy said, "OK babe" when I said, "I need it hot"
>TFW 4 hour work day, even at its busiest, is cake compared to former job
>>6540525
absolutely, also a girl from work entertained the idea of sleeping with me, but i dunno..
>>6540525
w-why am i bending over and getting lube for a blowjob?
>>6540515
mmmmmmm
yeah you can add my skype
its sailoressmercury
then you can send it to me on unsee there
just give me a moment to go to skype
>>6540530
just gonna go ahead and say that im uggo
>>6540528
Why not vote for neither of them?
>make a tasty-ass salad with kale greens, grape tomatoes, cucumber, carrots, bacon bits, banana peppers and ranch
>150 cal
bless
>>6540520
Sure it is.
>>6540537
lol, b/c you're uggo or b/c you don't want to post for foot freaks?
>>6540534
Shhh, spread em wide and relax
>>6540542
but that has yucky green stuff in it
>>6540539
I'm voting for my kool cat named Poodle
>>6540537
You've posted your face before, you're not ugly.
>>6540539
b/c blah blah blah throwing away vote blah blah
>>6540542
BLESS UP
>>6540525
I don't think you understand your position here in this cock slapping fight.
>>6540520
I wish I could have both but don't think I can. Passing is higher priority for sure.
>>6540524
I just know it looks bad but I don't know what to fix or how. I'm no good with makeup I can't get eyeliner close enough to eyelashes and I can't seem to hide beard shadow.
>>6540535
Alright added. Dunno if unsee is necessary there.
>>6540544
both
ive got clown feet desu
>>6540539
There's no point, it's a wasted vote. Either we have a villain or a nutjob, it's inevitable.
>>6540547
Unfortunately you need to be at least 35 years old to be president, as per the constitution, or I'd definitely vote for your cat.
>>6540547
but poodle isn't a cat name
>>6540525
theyve got an entire outfit with the pattern too, from berets and bags to tights and nighties. you could literally walk around town covered in semen, some thirsty guy would get the hint
>>6540552
No, I think you misunderstand. I can full cock grapple.
>>6540532
Seriously entertained or more like musing on the idea?
>>6540560
Damn.
He needs 2 more years.
>>6540548
dont you lie to me!
A pizza guy told me I have a feminine figure today. Feels good man.
>>6540520
Glad you're being treated like a little bitch now tho <3
>>6540564
I just wanna rub dicks with you, why do you have to make it so violent.
>>6540569
Did you tip him?
>>6540555
Not necessarily a wasted vote if you're somewhere where the delegate is going to go to one or the other regardless of how you vote, in that case it helps the third party make the case for actually getting included in debates and polling. It's a small thing, but it's not completely wasted.
>>6540561
Tell the magestic motherfucker that, yourself.
He comes when called & perks up when you're talking about him.
A 5 year old girl named him
>>6540564
Seriously entertained.
>>6540546
salads are gud
>>6540551
B L E S S
too much sodium today but w/e
>>6540575
It was before I tipped him. I was in boymode-ish besides toenail polish, so it was a surprise.
>>6540520
Yes but let's face it, no one wants to e ugly.
>>6540564
Why do you hate me so?
Can you just be honest with me on that?
>>6540571
Because my dick has literally been trained in the art of eating other dicks.
>>6540562
Seems like it would attract the wrong kind of guy :(
>>6540579
Idk do you want to?
>>6540568
I'm not. You look like a guy, which is to be expected because you haven't really started transitioning, but you're definitely not ugly.
>>6540570
>>6540578
Cute cat, what breed?
>>6540553
you CAN have both.
Pass, then learn to not be dumpy from advice by gay men.
>>6540570
It's so bizzare.
I catch glimpses of myself in reflections. my work uniform is rather flattering & when I walk into the restaurant for a drink or w/e, I can feel middle age drunk asshole's eyes on me & my ass.
Maybe I shoulda been a server...
Although..
I Dont even need the money. Its just fun & time consuming
>>6540586
Then swallow it up, Im cool with using it once before before it lopped off in the maw of an evil monster.
>>6540586
A part of me wants to, but i dont wanna use my donger & idk what else i could do to please her.
hello everyone
>>6540597
hi anne
are you having a good day
>>6540593
post uniformed ass plox
>>6540593
>Pass
I'm trying but so far been unsuccessful
>>6540586
post butt
>>6540586
Admit it, the only reason you got SRS was to live out your sick cock-vore fetishes, wasn't it.
>>6540600
not at all
are you?
>>6540590
Just an orange tabby.
He's super big.. 18 lbs.
Found him being a wood pile, barely 3 months old with all his ribs showing. I took him in so the winter wouldn't kill him .
>>6540587
Do you speak russian?
>>6540603
It's not difficult to pass unless you look like this
>>6540597
anna help I just woke up half an hour ago and its now 11am and I've never slept in this long before
ever since I've been thinking of buying an instrument I've been sleeping in and wearing sunglasses at night and the like!
it gonna be fun tho
>>6540594
Omnomnomnom
Dik eat ur dik
>>6540595
Idk, toys, oral, fingers. Its tricky though.
>>6540584
The way you act makes you genuinely unpleasant to interact with. No other reason.
>>6540605
N-no...m-maybe
..
Ok yeah
>>6540610
Nope.
>>6540608
Orange Tabbies are the best cats, they have the best personalities.
>>6540615
Do you want me to be nice?
>>6540587
thanks for the kind words
>>6540615
Yeah i guess the best way is to just do it :^)
>>6540620
I mean them, just so you know.
>>6540619
>You're not even a year on skittles, yes?
13 months
>>6540612
yeah right
>>6540615
POST BUTT
>>6540605
what is cock vore joan?
>>6540615
I am a lucky guy to have my cock in you.
>>6540614
car troubles on top of worsening anxiety/depression/abandonment issues. i spent most of the day asleep, something i havent done in a long time. it bad.
>>6540625
Nikki/ffsanon didn't pass until 2 years. She only got ffs at 3 when everyone assumed she was cis already
Let that sink in.
>>6540630
i like that you can always tell what your cat is thinking
at least i can
nutmeg always makes it clear what he wants
>>6540627
Ask Elanna, it's not really my thing.
>>6540631
Let skittles do their work, whiney faggot.
Loose a little weight, straighten your hair maybe & brows.
>>6540632
>i spent most of the day asleep
same actually but that's been the norm for a while
adhd meds in two days should change that though!
>>6540608
ugh. I've started feeding a stray that looks very similar to yours and I don't what I'm going to do about it. I can't take him b/c allergic to cats. I'm going to end up having to take him to the humane society and he'll probably get put to sleep.
He has no survival skills and just wants to be petted and cuddle. Someone obviously had him as an indoor cat only and then put him out. Best behave male cat I've ever see tho.
>no one compliments me on being below 900 calories for the day
o-oh... im pretty happy...............
>>6540635
I get glares a lot. Like I've offended him.
Usually, I scream "why the fuck you looking at me like that, faggot!" At like 2am.... My neighbors hear it too.
>>6540634
FFS is a life goal, gotta try my best 'til then :s
>>6540618
Please just leave me alone.
>>6540626
Not right now bae
>>6540621
Yeh p much
>>6540629
:3
>>6540632
anna :(
>>6540644
g-good work
>>6540619
>I'm not wearing it anymore
post naked but then.
>>6540644
>tfw two takeaways in two days
Who's the real winner, ufufu?
>>6540648
Same.
Should I buy a corset?
>>6540653
>Odds are it has other ppl who feed it ..
maybe but it spends all day trying to get inside the house.
what a nice river
>>6540606
Don't be silly. If Jill Stein is gonna win then she needs all the votes she can get!
But seriously though: if you don't live in a swing state then it won't matter either way.
And if anyone has to be seriously concerned about choosing the very very slightly lesser of two evils over the candidate they want because by doing the latter they'd be handing the election to the worse candidate, then your voting system is shit tbqh.
>>6540616
ok
>>6540639
I'm trying to do my goal of 100lbs in a year desu. I'm 20 off right now, so I don't think I can seeing as I have til like the end of august.
Being a whiney faggot has been my whole life tho... Like, that's all I've done for like ever, grabbed is gotten worse, but still. Either way I gotta rename this skittles.jpg now.
>>6540644
That's p fucking rad.
>>6540663
Probably.
>>6540654
ty shan bb!!!!
>>6540660
it's me because i'm still losing weight nerd!!!!
>>6540663
yes, i am wearing mine right now to better cosplay 2b
>>6540413
Aww that's nice of you, where in Kent are you?
>>6540668
Our voting system is undeniably shit.
>>6540674
yeah and i used to get these real bad headaches like i got right now.
i should get some antidepressants maybe.
>>6540677
good old margate lmfao
hei sxc bbs, who wan sum fuk :^)
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>>6540644
do you still like dogs?
also congrats
>>6540663
almost always a solid idea, make sure its a decent one though. waist training is nice to be desu
>>6540667
natures really nice. im glad ive gotten into mountain climbing and such
>>6540676
>tfw
>>6540676
>it's me because i'm still losing weight nerd!!!!
I'll just exercise it away because I live [spoiler]rurally[/spoiler] and I can cycle for daayyzz
>>6540644
you should buy some pizza and wings and watch some of your favorite cmoedies :(
>>6540676
>ty shan bb!!!!
np, I'm probably going to be at 1200 after dinner
btw
>>6540680
antidepressants just made me feel nothing
i think i get sad when i just lay around the house doing nothing
but when im on my medication im doing stuff so i feel a lot better
>>6540684
Don't make promises you can't keep :(
>>6540687
>>6540691
Exercise, getting out in the sun every now and then, proper sleep, etc; all things that help if you can do them.
>>6540692
if i was rich i'd send over the finest male escort canada money can buy
>>6540644
If I did that, I would black out from hypoglycemia.
>>6540699
why pay money for an escort when some cute strapping chaser would do it for free?
>>6540701
but the tradeoff is that instead of getting worse you're stuck where you are now forever
>>6540699
Male escorts are no fun though, I want a guy that can beat me at vidya for foreplay. I shouldn't have to pretend to be bad at video games to make him feel better.
>>6540692
to what are you referring to?
>>6540668
I live in shillary: the city, so I mean she's gonna win, but Stein or Johnson would be best rn. I wish I could just be a bernfag.
Also, burger voting belongs in the trash by now. We need the shitposter's voting system.
>>6540708
Depends on what you play, I'll take that challenge.
>>6540708
>I want a guy that can beat me at vidya for foreplay.
I will take you apart like an appropriately sexual metaphor at [spoiler]Halo[/spoiler].
>>6540701
i mean, you COULD
>>6540708
if i met a guy irl who could beat me in armored core id probably suck him off ngl
>>6540708
When are we gonna play smash 4 again....?
>>6540708
you'll probably have to settle for a bf that rubs your back and brings you your favorite drink while you dominate others in vidya
>>6540701
anna u sound like ur cheese and bred and tomato levels and wings levels have dropped
also you should go to someone to talk and to get an anti depressant
>>6540669
thanks!!!!!!!!
>>6540685
ofc i still like dogs dogs are super cute
>tfw tfw
ill probably never actually do it but getting down to a weight where i feel like i can is a good first step lol
>>6540689
>you should buy some pizza and wings and watch some of your favorite cmoedies :(
i cant do that shan. im going to let myself eat whatever in europe, but for now, i need to be serious about dis diet.
>np, I'm probably going to be at 1200 after dinner
gud gud gud gud gud
thats gud!!!
im looking forward to being at 130 and being able to sustain with 1950 a day, thats like twice as much as what ive been eating most of these days @__@
>>6540695
ty ty! send me a pic i wanna see it
i rly need to get myself a new one :s
>>6540705
i have that issue sometimes, for a while it was happening nearly every day
but it seems to have mostly sorted itself out recently? ive been eating really healthily with plenty of fruits and veggies so i imagine that's helped a lot.
>>6540708
that honestly sounds nice as fuck
where are the qt tall guys who like fashion who also play video games and watch anime
>>6540707
well i certainly dont wanna get worse
this is all temporary anyways. i'm just in a rut. i just need to find a way to power thru till its over.
>>6540719
nah imma wait another hour or two
>>6540723
my food levels in general have dropped significantly!
i might just call my handsome drug dealer friend and see what he's got. i dont think i need anything long-term
>>6540713
>shitposters voting system
Moot for president?
>>6540668
>lesser of two evils
So do we want the shitty lying puppet master, or the clown?
>>6540724
I've been doing quite the opposite tbqh, but I know natural sugars are better for you.
>>6540728
>So do we want the shitty lying puppet master, or the clown?
That's for you to decide.
I live in a swing state so I'm going for lying puppet master
>>6540716
You wouldn't be able to beat me at halo, I played it religiously growing up.
>>6540714
Beat my Cassandra in soulcalibur and I'll swallow :3
>>6540721
Idk ;~;
>>6540720
Hawt
>>6540714
I mostly play retro and arcade games
>>6540710
It's on
>>6540724
I don't think there's a lot of overlap between guys into those 3 things
>>6540724
>i still like dogs
Just take the knot already
>>6540736
>You wouldn't be able to beat me at halo, I played it religiously growing up.
I will make you the Chips Dubbo to my Sgt Johnson. Do you understand?
>>6540728
>>6540724
Are you enjoying New Game! ? I'm still on the fence...
>>6540736
I have a pretty nasty Astaroth, hope you're good at deep throat.
CHARA REPLY TO QUID
FLANNEL PUT SOME CLOTHES ON ALREADY
>>6540734
well
i love love LOVE candy
i just tend to binge on it too easily so i cant have it right now.
>>6540736
>I don't think there's a lot of overlap between guys into those 3 things>>
WHY NOT
THERES A LOT OF OVERLAP OF THOSE THREE THINGS IN ME
;_______;
>>6540737
get out
>>6540742
honestly yes and i feel embarrassed about it
>>6540736
>I mostly play retro and arcade games
favorite?
>pls say Tempest or Paperboy
>>6540724
oh that was meant for anna tho because she is sad
but you should have a slice or two some time soon, pizza is an integral part to transition
>>6540725
:(
drugs r bad anna
I wanna try some tho one day, I am way too straight edge
>>6540750
I have some clothes on bitch
tho I did just walk down to the shops with no shoes on
and come to think of it, no bra on either
>>6540752
I still feels a bit generic, I guess I was hoping for something closer to Shirobako and that's just a mistake on my part.
>>6540757
>thick 'n' cheesy
ew.
Thin pizza is best pizza.
>>6540758
You're not a wild child! Fit with society already!
>>6540745
She's getting laid
>>6540757
sheen, you don't want no part of this shit. they turn all your bad feelings into good feelings.
it's a nightmare.
>>6540682
That's miles away lol. The Kent I know is like Bromley and Orpington and stuff which is not even really Kent. But yeah sure maybe one day in the future I could come check out Margate.
Suck a fuck, fucksuckers
I made dinner
>>6540757
gotchaaaaa
and i think ive had pizza at least once a week even the past few weeks?
>>6540761
oh, it's extremely generic. i just enjoyed how cute it was mostly. and it had a nice moe-infused iyashikei feeling to it.
>>6540767
oh I'd better stay in hell then
>>6540722
Gdi, I just want a guy that can match my power level ;~;
>>6540739
I understand, and if you could do that you may have found the Keyes to my heart.
>>6540743
Preferably 2, 4 is also alright
I play Sophitia in sc1 but am also breddy gud at her.
>>6540752
I'm sorry to shatter dreams. I'm sure there's at least one cute guy out there into fashion, vidya and animu.
>>6540744
I'm in reasonably good practice, bring it astaroth.
>>6540756
Tempest looks really cool but I've never played it. I'm more for shmups and run n guns.
Idk, I've probably sunk the most hours into contra hard corps.
>>6540752
do you like any specific style or just normal girl stuff?
>>6540736
>tfw you were shit at halo
how do you do it? my bullets, they do nothing
>tfw looking at the tumblr of a cute boy who would make you dysphoric but now you're just sad he's gay and thus unavailable
>>6540766
>you will never get laid
>>6540780
Halo 1: pistol
Halo 2 and 3: battle rifle
Aim for the head
>>6540785
Tumblr is an instant red flag for me.
>>6540778
I am not in reasonably good practice, what would you want if you won?~
Finally started this...
>>6540777
nah they're fine and make you feel better and good so long as you don't abuse them
>>6540788
im good at slayer but shit at mlg
explain how this can be
>>6540792
Yeah, but the amateur porn is killer
>>6540778
Any guy that's into fashion, vidya and animu is almost certainly either going to be gay or a repressing transgirl though.
>>6540788
have you ever played SWAT in halo?
you get a pistol and a BR
no sheilds
headshots are 1-shot kills
>>6540792
I have a tumblr for looking at pictures of cats.
>>6540792
please follow my tumblr
>>6540797
I keep getting followed by porn blogs even tho i dont post porn
I could beat Elanna at Halo.
>>6540775
>and i think ive had pizza at least once a week even the past few weeks?
oh okay thats good then, you gotta keep up ur baseline pizza lvls
Why do you guys pretend you're girls?
>>6540820
Because pretending to be a boy really failed hard time.
>>6540778
>I understand, and if you could do that you may have found the Keyes to my heart.
In another life we'd be so happy.
>>6540797
>tfw your porn blog is past 2k followers
Wew! I've had an art blog for like 5 years and I'm at 382 followers. I should probably just draw more but I'm lazy af.
>>6540785
Cute asian cis guys trigger my dysphoria so fucking hard.
>>6540792
It depends on what you do there. It's like saying that having a youtube channel is a red flag because there are autistic people posting train videos there or that having a deviantart is a red flag because of all the horrible "artists" posting their OC's there.
Just out of curiosity
is it even possible to get breast budding after a month of spiro and a week of E?
I just wanna make sure I'm not losing it.
>>6540797
I'd probably be better at 2 if I didn't have to use the GameCube controller, tempted to get the HD remake. Never played enough of 4 to git real gud
>>6540803
I'm sure at least one of them is straight
>>6540808
I think I have and really liked it.
>>6540800
Idk, never played mlg
>>6540793
A good deep dicking might be nice~
>>6540820
So I can trick men into having sex with me
>>6540823
Do you want your girl to drill chains in your room while you're out, Curtis?
>>6540826
I did
>>6540828
So no matter what I get to fuck your brains out? Man you should be my girlfriend.
>>6540826
Maybe? The month of spiro might have gotten you a head start on things relative to someone starting both at the same time.
>>6540820
trying to be a guy didn't work, so I'm giving life one last shot before I give up.
nothing to lose, right?
>>6540828
I remember playing a ton of swat with a guy I was doing a doubles tournament with, and the tournament ended up being for regular halo
we got annihilated because I kept flicking to the head, shooting twice and then walking away.
>>6540814
i hope you are feeling better
i've been thinking about you today a lot. thank you for always being nice to me
>>6540828
how do you feel about beatdowns
because thats how i get a lot of my kills in halo
that being said when i learned to strafe with the br i got a lot better
>>6540826
I started to get budding after like a month of cypro and 2 weeks of E, so it seems possible. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i fucked my shit up with my bf
pls hold me /mtfg/
>>6540825
drawing more helps, drawthreads are a good place to rake in the followers. if youre willing to draw porn youd make a ton too. desu i have no idea why people dont just draw niche porn and rake in the cash
>>6540828
i wasnt a fan of the gamecube controller either, i dont get the praise it gets. i played 4 like a turbo addict though, climbed through the leaderboards and everything.
>>6540825
>not liking this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBPOIyXEt0Q
well, fuck you too, Puru
>>6540828
fuck you've got me thinking about the halo 3 custom game days
>tfw you'll never play fat kid again
>>6540839
Tell us what happened?
>>6540846
>tfw no more jenga
>>6540839
>>6540794
I have a friend that's trying to get me to get pokemon go. so far I've avoided it.
>>6540818
lmao
yah ur right
also
>tfw eating some cookies now knowing that i ate so little earlier
damn ittttttt
>>6540821
lmao so ur asking what kind of fashion im into
GOT U
tbqh im mostly into streetsyle-inspired rtw high fashion stuff . not that i can really afford any of that?
menhara is definitely cute though, ive been thinking of getting some stuff that fits there, i didnt know what it was called though
>>6540836
i feel alright.
i made at least one decision today, which is that no matter what i'm going to apply for JET and see where that takes me. doesn't help in the very immediate future, but it's something, at least.
thanks for being nice to me last night !
>>6540834
I know, but even if we were to say that I started them both at the same time, that would've been roughly a month and a half on HRT. iirc, most girls don't get breast budding until month 3, if not later..
>>6540838
that sounds similar to what I'm doing, it's been a month of spiro and a week or so of E
maybe there's a trans tech breakthrough here?
>>6540787
I've been laid though
>>6540847
i got drunk and hit on his friends and hes gonna find out about this and hate me forever
he was the best bf ever
>>6540850
>no more cops and robbers
>>6540854
i can barely go outside as it is and now you are telling me there are pokemon outside too? i think i will pass
>>6540860
flannel
that cunt was annoying af
glad she doesn't post any more
>>6540860
kiwi had cancer and died this morning
>>6540828
>I'm sure at least one of them is straight
I'm sure once she transitions, she'll be straight.
>>6540856
I think it started a tiny bit puffy at around 1 month for me, though most development did come later. Anyways, if it seems to be working I guess that's a good thing?
>>6540857
I was talking about me