Love wins edition.
>Links
• Informed Consent Providers:
https://itmb.co/r1uo5 (PDF)
• Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
• MTF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/36HC6ZmT
• Size charts: Just google women's size chart
• Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
• Articles, Studies and General information about Questioning, Transitioning and other stuff: http://pastebin.com/CyW1dXV8
• Useful links about/for transgender people: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
• Transgender FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8QbKyShU
• Am I trans/trans help threads archive: http://pastebin.com/CPzj0xv9
• Basic Trans Information: http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TS.html
• Hormones, and so much more: http://www.transgendercare.com/
• For your doctor: http://transhealth.ucsf.edu/
>Where we are:
#transbians on Rizon
TC /translez
>/tlg/ F.A.Q.
1. What is a transbian/trans-lesbian? → MtF transsexuals who are also lesbians
2. Isn't that just a straight guy? → No, orientation is who you go to bed with, but gender identity is who you go to bed as.
3. Are bi trans girls, welcome here? → Yes but please the keep boy drama in MTF General please!
4. Are cis lesbians/bisexuals welcome? → Yes.
5. Do trans-lesbians use their penis when they are pre-op? → Some do, some don't.
>>6486870
>Love wins edition.
>>6486885
Ha! That would never happen tho.
dead bread
>>6486885
>>6487021
Why not? That's basically how me and my gf met each other.
>>6487116
>that edit
omfg anon
>>6487124
You're saying "true love" called the shots in your relationship? Not distance income or features.
>>6486427
then look for lgbt centers and see if they have a group in your age or something
>>6487149
I met her while she was in the military, and we spent our first year as a couple 1000 miles away from each other. It was hard, but we honestly loved each other and after all the pain and sadness, we are about to finally move in together and start our lives. Neither of us really have an income except for her retirement pay from the military, and we are both still in school. There's no reason to imply that my wife and I aren't truly in love. I love her more than anything in the world.
>>6487137
Over 5 whole minutes of paint! I was just bored to be honest, but I'm glad you liked it <3
>>6487236
I appreciate your hard work, it amused me
>>6487252
0/10 troll, try harder.
>>6487177
Out of curiosity, what kind of women are you girls into? Tall? Buff? Intellectual? I'm interested to know.
>>6487382
I tend to be into other trans women sometimes, because I like that they're as tall as me. But tall cisgirls are fine too :P Definitely a sapiosexual, so tall and smart is best gf
>tfw ur a girl
: )
>>6487382
I'm into women who are treating me like a human bein and aren't repulsed by my ugly man face
>>6487382
Lol the girl in this picture if she was also smart is basically my ideal woman....
I am very artsy and poetic and love other women who are similar and take care of themselves. I also value logical women.
>>6487432
same but they also have to like cuddling
>>6487382
I'm not really sure what kind of people I like, I've found myself attracted to a lot of different people.
I guess some ideal qualities would be
>Dominance (or at least a switch)
>Older
>Wise and experienced
>Willing to guide and take care of me
>Affectionate
>Gentle
>>6487620
We happen to like the exact kind of women... I have some serious mommy issue though, I think. I feel like if I did find a woman like this, and got together with her, I may end up stuck never maturing. Not that it would be a bad thing, but society really seems to demonize anyone that chooses not to work and take care of themselves, and I think that internalized hatred of my own willingness to become almost childlike with my lover makes it tough for me. It's just one more reason that I wish I could have been born a girl... Girls have an easier time being socially accepted as dependent on their lovers.
>>6487382
As smart as or (even better) smarter than me. The smarter they are the hotter it is.
But I do have a weakness for muscular women. Muscular AND smart, I think I might die.
>>6487789
rn i'm living as a house-trap and am just kind of getting to be smol and dependent...sometimes i wonder about the stuff you brought up about being stuck never maturing.
>>6487789
Mm, I'm not looking for someone to let me be a child, I just need someone who can help me along as I grow up and push me in the right direction sometimes when I need that extra nudge.
I don't ever want to wholly depend on someone, I want to be able to stand on my own, but having someone that I /can/ depend on would be wonderful.
And of course, this is stuff I can reciprocate myself, I'd love to offer any sort of assistance and care to my partner I can.
>>6487861
That seems like a healthy relationship to look for. I'm pretty glad I didn't fall into a relationship based on my dependency issues, though that isn't to say I wouldn't be really comfy in it.
>>6487834
If you're happy, then that's what matters, Anon. If later on in life, you find yourself in need to mature, you can worry about it then. Take life one step at a time, and take comfort wherever you can find it, because it won't always be there.
tfw ur gf hugs u
I want a girlfriend but I'm bad at maintaining relationships and I get bored of people easily. What do.
>>6488089
Tell us more about your relationship issues
>>6488102
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not...but okay.
I'm good at starting friendships, but they never last. Same with romantic relationships, I always find myself liking a cute girl and it always ends the same, I like her, I get her to like me back, I stop liking her after a couple of months, I break things off with her and we never talk again.
I want to stop being like this but I don't know how. I just want to fall in love with someone for real and stop hurting people who deserve so much better than me.
>>6488132
Being genuine. It's hard to help you without details.
Why do you think you stop liking them? Is it perhaps just the natural progression of a relationship that wasn't meant to be?
>>6487613
I have a hard time imagining not liking cuddling. I'll cuddle with anyone who wants to, even casual friends.
>>6488143
I'm not sure, but that could be it. Maybe I'm just not picky enough when it comes to dating. Something I've noticed is that I only date people who...I don't know how to say it without sounding mean but I don't date people who are better than me. I always date girls who are nerdier than me, or more socially awkward or not as pretty as me. I can't see myself dating a confident girl who's just better than me in general.
So that could be part of the reason why. I see them as inferior and disposable. Actually typing it makes me physically nauseous...but at least I'm trying to change that part of me I guess.
>>6488178
Tbh anon it sounds like you should take a break and just focus on yourself. I've been having a lot of issues dating recently and realized I need to work on myself some before I should go for anyone again.
If the problem really resides with you changing nothing isn't going to give you any better results.
>>6488185
Yeah...I think I will. I hate being lonely but if it's for a good cause I guess I don't mind it as much.
Thanks for the advice senpai, maybe I'll stop by more often. This place seems comfier than the other lesgen.
>>6488220
Once you love yourself you'll be far less lonely, trust me.
And if there's anything we can do for you don't hesitate to ask!
>>6487382
On that note, is anyone here into butch girls? Or at the least, don't consider it a deal breaker?
>>6488231
They're pretty hot.
>>6488236
What game?
>>6488360
We Know The Devil
Is it ok to drink alcohol on oral estradiol and spiro?
How often can i do it?
>>6488478
Much less than you could before, at least in my experience. You'll have to find your new tolerance, but definitely start small.
>>6488487
Will it fuck up my liver if i drink too much?
My main concern is having to stop hormones just because i drank too much, that would suck.
>>6488494
It could even not on hormones. I don't know exactly what the increased risk is, but if you're concerned about the health of your liver it's probably a good idea to not drink heavily.
>>6487382
I like girls who are more petite and feminine than me. She would have a nice butt and bigger boobs than me. I like being the bigger, more androgynous and muscular girl in the relationship. I'm the one holding doors, driving us around, and being protective when necessary. I would want her to keep me calm, and steer me away from being headstrong. I would want her to be very educated, and be more dominant in bed and initiate sex with me.
There is a girl who just started at my work and I can't figure out if she is flirting with me. She is super smiley and sweet to me, but is pretty stoic towards everyone else.
I'm pretty much out to everyone, but I was in boy mode(mtf) when I met her. I get a lesbian vibe from her which makes it even more confusing since I was in boymode. I keep telling myself its probably nothing but I don't want to miss a chance to go on a date/makeout with someone if it ends up that she is flirting.
>>6486870
>tfw 6ft tall
>tfw every girl wants me to "be the boy" and they wanna "be the girl"
>tfw i feel somewhat attractive even though nonpass but nobody gives me the fkin time of day
>>6488821
go talk to her
i mean you don't have to be super direct
I'm super excited! For what ever reason I have been feeling small lately compared to some of my classic guy friends, I measured myself and I am in fact 2 inches shorter I have been on HRT for basically 9 months.
I used to be 6'0 Now I am 5'10 which is just about where I would want to be! I still have tall girl clothing struggles, but this is good news!
>>6488856
god i hope this happens to me
>>6488827
I haven't had much of an opportunity to unless it was work related. There was one moment I missed out on.
>finishing up my work before I go to lunch.
>she is about to get off lunch, has a few minutes left.
>she sits down on top of my work station where I package books that is near where I'm working instead of sitting in the breakroom.
>time to get real shy
>talk a little, but nothing real significant.
I usually don't get all that shy with people, but something about her gets to me.
I like how nice it is in here.
>>6488911
me too
>>6488821
fwiw, I've seen a few posts on /lgbt/ before that basically went like
>Back before I even knew I was trans, [girl I know] was interested in me, and she said I was the only exception to her otherwise being completely lesbian
so it's not completely unheard of for cisbians to find a boymode mtf attractive.
I think you should try to find out how she feels about you though. Like >>6488827 said, you don't have to be super direct about it.
>>6488922
^-^
>>6487382
butch and intellectual
buffed is optional
>tfw tlg is the best general on lgbt again
>>6489526
I mean holy shit I have never been in a trans general without fighting. Pretty nice.
>>6489526
>again
wasn't it always
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHZBBNRrano
>>6488231
yes...
>>6488821
So true >>6489094
My last gf in hs described herself as 7/8ths lesbian. Her and her gf decided they needed beards because the lesbian rumors were getting quite strong. Both of them had some biness. So she chose me, and her gf chose a jock who was nice. Turns out I was transsexual, and he was a crossdresser. Ultimately it made for a strong inseparable quad.
>>6489572
ignore the haters is what we do here.
>>6489600
That's my Jam!
>grow out hair until halfway down back
>work on voice for months until it sounds perfect
>still too scared to go on hormones
just kill me senpai
>>6489786
Scared about what exactly?
>>6489738
Those don't sound like very good friends, to be totally honest. Butch girls can make great friends, and even better lovers. I dated a tall butch girl for almost 2 years, and it was one of the happiest relationships of my life.
There's just something about Dom butch girls that makes me swoon.
Finally hair cut short againawww yeah
>>6489790
>losing fertility
I know I can freeze sperm but it feel would feel like losing a bit of myself.
>losing friends and family
My family is conservative on both sides and I don't have many of them in the first place. My friends aren't but I could see how it would be awkward to hang out with me.
>not eventually passing
You can meme all you want but I want to look like a freak. If I go down this road it's to end up looking like a woman. It doesn't matter if I'm ugly or not.
>hormones changing me
I know this isn't rational but I'm scared that I'll become a different person because of hormones. I still want to be myself.
>never having a family
I want to marry someone and have a family of my own someday. Finding a woman that would be alright with someone like me would be hard to find.
>>6489826
*I DONT want to look like a freak
>>6489805
They aren't, but I don't have a lot of friends, so I don't want to lose them. To be more specific, one keeps wondering why I dont just go ftm and I just cannot get her to understand that I like being a woman. A masculine, unconventional woman sure, but still a woman, not a guy.
>>6489826
>hormones changing me
I know this isn't rational but I'm scared that I'll become a different person because of hormones. I still want to be myself.
they do....
its for the better desu
>>6489864
THIS. It really is. Estrogen just makes for better personalities imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p15KHmxHURQ
>>6487382
>masculine personality
>feminine presentation, but I wouldn't say no to nicely dressed masculine presentation.
>prefer tall as me (5'10") or higher but shorter does work too.
>The rest, who knows? I've changed so much.
>>6489786
The mental effects alone make it totally worth it.
>>6489805
For me it's that they take on the masculine role in the relationship. I really respond to that.
>>6489826
>losing fertility
Freeze some sperm. Costs, but is a solution.
>losing friends and family
More difficult. Depends on them. Some can be quite surprising.
>not eventually passing
Earlier you start, the greater the likelihood of passing. Also there is FFS for masculine faces.
>hormones changing me
Your personality will mostly stay the same. If there are changes, it is likely because you now give yourself permission to act in feminine ways. ;)
>never having a family
Sperm banking, and surrogate mothers.
>>6489826
I understand your worries, and just about every transgirl in existence has thought about those exact same things. You really have to think about whether or not those things are enough to keep you from transitioning. Is remaining a man for the rest of your life worth not being infertile and maybe not being ugly? Personally what helped me through this was that I realized being a disgusting man and living with dysphoria for the rest of my life was scarier than the thought of -maybe- turning out to be an ugly girl. After a couple of years on hormones, I quickly figured out that passing as a girl, even if I'm not the best looking, is much better than being a man.
Don't forget, dysphoria doesn't just go away. I know it's scary, but you don't want to end up 50 years old and still fighting every day to not take hormones. Do it while you're still young and have a chance at passing.
>>6489826
>I know this isn't rational but I'm scared that I'll become a different person because of hormones. I still want to be myself.
Let's attack this from a few different perspectives
You change regardless of taking hormones. You will not be the same person you are today in 6 months. That's just what life does to you.
That brings me to the next point, transition itself will change you because you will develop as a person and be much better for it
Hormones will simply make you more calm and emotional and happy
The process of transition is what changed me and made me a much better person than I was 6 months ago.
Like, look at me before mones and tell me I'm enjoying life. Can you say the same about the later pics?
>>6489897
Not who you replied to but...
This made me cobble together my own timeline (pre, 2-3 mo, 4 mo, 7 mo) so far just to see the progress. I feel a little less harsh towards myself somehow. Maybe it'll be one to share in 16 months or so.
>>6490053
Looking back at my older pics helps give me hope and remind me I'm making progress. Any time I doubt this is the right thing for me, too, I just ask myself if I really wanna go back to what I used to be, when I can visibly see how much I want to die on my face.
>>6489897
>hormones just make you calm
DAT calmness on my chest yo
Post moar pics of all of you.
>>6489891
Do you have any tips for finding people (or finding where to find) people for a triangle or a quad?
>>6490190
>>6490190
>>6487382
tall, athletic, but not butch
but really i'm too desperate and ugly to have preferences
how to get cis lesbians as a tranny
just tell me its impossible then i have a confirmation
>>6490242
Find a decent person and be a decent person yourself
Don't make being a chick with dick your only personality trait and gaze in amazement at the number of fine bitches lining up to date you
-Lilly's gf
>>6490242
how to get tranny gf
>>6490245
in my own experience, most cis lesbians are into me, until they find out I still have a cock
so its like: hitting up > kissing > feeling > "sry i dont think we can go any further" or "do you happen to be bi"
cus i think its kind of unfair to not tell them beforehand, heck I occasionally don't even start because I know that it's "lying" to present yourself as a female, while you still have those genitals (anecdotal responses)
>>6490262
Idk I was pretty open like before we even talked much
And from my experience it just enhanced chances cause no prior master race
>>6490251
>be open to dating a trans girl (very important)
>take initiative and approach her (a lot of trans lesbos are terrified of approaching cis women due to fear of rejection and getting clocked)
>>6490334
These are also a plus but I find that most trans lesbians are willing to compromise on at least one of these due to having a tiny ass dating pool.
>>6490202
Sorry, don't know. I basically fell into mine. You could look into poly support groups. There are some of them around the country. There is even one here in central IA.
>kangaroos get 3 vaginas
>you didn't even get one
>>6490116
H o w did you get all that calmness
>>6491605
By staying calm
>>6491928
i have really bad anxiety does that mean ill get small boobs
>>6491945
Yes.
>>6492254
:)
>>6492258
why did you try to spook me
>>6492271
It's likely why I have CFS now...
>>6492283
is that why im always so tired
>>6492287
Not likely, there are many other things like low hormones, drugs, etc. than can cause tiredness. Simply not eating enough will too.
When you over exert yourself, how do you feel immediately and over the next few days?
>>6491945
idk
pop pills and wait
>tfw qt gf :)
Please describe what having hips and tits are like so I can cry.
>>6492606
like having a lot of fat concentrated in one place
>>6492606
Well, tits are these squishy things protruding from my chest that I'm not used to so I'm constantly bumping them into things, and then they hurt. My widened hips are similar but they also rock when I walk, and I'm not built for that so my hip joints hurt too.
>>6492648
does it make you feel sexy when you walk
>tfw ugly tits
>>6492718
>tfw I do it without thinking about it when I wear >1" heals.
So, no. I just get chatted up by guys...
>>6492648
>tits are these squishy things protruding from my chest that I'm not used to so I'm constantly bumping them into things, and then they hurt.
omg. you cant be serious. no one can actually be this delusional, right?
>>6492648
Syndie, ive seen these threads for a very long time. You are the queen of roleplay and fantasy. When you're managing your families millions, going on modeling binges before HRT where you end up in elaborate sexual fantasies, or when you have "amnesia" so you can "remember" more fantasy.
As someone who got more hips(pretty sure it was just minimal hip rotation, but looks good), and significant breast growth(for a trans girl) to a C cup; shut up. Keep your fantasy to yourself.
>>6492759
iktf
>>6492925
Is that not a good thing?
>>6493261
Only if it actually happened. Remember that "Syndie" is 40 years old is claiming that her hips have widened, and her boobs are so big that she bumps them into things. Take any of her stories with a mountain of salt.
>>6493131
So are hips nice?
>>6493120
>>6493131
I was joking... I rarely bump my tits or hips anymore, but they do get in the way of working on equipment, etc.. I think I gained around 4" fat in the hips. Means I now have to turn sideways in one of the corral man gates.
Hip sway when walking is an issue. It's something about wearing heels. I've always catwalked when in heels from the first time I walked in them. Thing is I don't in flats, and that's what I wore for decades. So my hips, and muscles around them are not used to catwalking, so they get sore. I expect if I wore heels every day I'd get the muscles used to it.
>>6493338
I have to make a conscious effort to have a "normal" walk. Even when wearing army boots. Like pretty much anything I practiced as a kid, catwalking is still pretty much hardwired...
>>6493338
I have only bumped my tits a few times, and that did clearly hurt, but I've mostly hurt them by accidentally carrying things more than any other way. Definitely had to rethink that a bit.
My hips have definitely widened a bit, but I have always been really good at balance since my gymnastics days so I haven't really had a lot of trouble with balance or getting used to walking differently cause of it. Actually, one of my girl friends got a bit disgusted at me when she saw me wearing heels for the first time and walking, I basically had it down immediately. She thought it would be funnier.
Otherwise I still browse here occasionally but I mainly just lurk now. My social life is flowering slowly so my time is pretty swallowed up now.
>>6493805
I obviously remembered how to walk in heals from my youth. The tendons and muscles have taken a bit of time to get used to it.
For those wanting to learn how to walk in heals, go to a used clothes place, and buy a few pairs of cheap heals of various heights in your size. Then do the household chores in them. Especially dusting and vacuuming. I used to paint in them. That's a lot of side to side and forward and back stepping while I was in my trance like painting state.
>My social life is flowering slowly so my time is pretty swallowed up now.
Cool, sounds good. I wish I could escape this farm in outer bumfuck. My social life is almost dead because of it.
>>6493532
I've wondered if they beat that out of me during conversion therapy. They seam to have fucked with everything else.
>>6493853
Quite possible. It's such a glaring telltale sign I doubt they could have not noticed it...
>>6493853
>conversion therapy
:(
reminder that I love ALL OF YOU
>>6493917
Yeah. :( I started transition when 16, and was dumped into conversion therapy against my will by a bad doc just before I turned 20. Fucked my life up. I finally restarted when I was 48.
>>6493998
Ditto anon. :)
>>6493853
Uhhhh wut?
Story time. This cant be real.
>>6494280
Unfortunately it is. This happened back in '85 when transgenders were still heavily condemned. The quad I was in were attacked. M&J died in the attack. C and I were severely injured. C died in the hospital 5 days later. CM&J were the three people listed as my next of kin for my drivers license. Doc didn't bother to find my parents, and instead had me committed, and shipped off to the funny farm. He started telling friends who visited I was dead. On that paperwork he used to ship me off, he changed my name.
At the time of the attack, my parents, who were wandering around France after a conference, finally were found and brought to the hospital a day or two late. They were also accompanied by my European lover, the one who was looking for them. The doc covered up his tracks by cremating a body from the morgue, and saying it was mine. He also falsified a death certificate. He only got charged on falsifying the death certificate. Technically he was within his right to choose my care after my wife died, but he also didn't do due diligence to find my parents or relatives who really had ultimate say.
The estates of all the quad's members were settled separately due to the deaths happening so close to each other. A majority of my estate went to charities and museums per my will. About 9 months after I was declared dead a hospital that had done some emergency work on me figured out who I really was and billed my insurance. They passed it on to my lawyer/executor. She investigated it, and realized I really was still alive. After that the search was on for me. Took them another 6 or so months to find me plus a few more to get me freed. By then I'd been majorly fucked up and didn't remember who I was anymore.
>>6494524
damn. you're okay now though, right?
>>6494524
Uhhh that sounds like lawsuits all around.
>>6492279
It's a habit.
>tfw the rain today is very welcome. Things were getting parched.
>>6495422
Still have memory and skills loss from the electroshock damage. I'm still mentally fucked up bad from the torturous situation I was in. About all that changed is I'm no longer blocking everything from myself. I also have areas of my cerebral cortex that never show signs of activity when I'm thinking or doing things. That has to have effected my IQ negatively, yet it still takes IQ tests for outliers to test me effectively.
>>6495532
They tried on my behalf, but lost because I was a "worthless tranny".
>>6496513
That's when you call the tv station. They will have a field day with them.
P.s. i know that feel of being intentionally lost in the system just because the authorities are ass holes.
Im sorry you had to go threw that anon.
I was pretty bummed when a close friend posted this today :( I called her out on it but she didn't respond.
>>6496924
That's downright light-hearted, genuine humor though. Not trying to make any sort of statement.
>>6496924
Longer lines, the real reason cis women don't want trannies in the women's room. :}
>>6496924
That's not really offensive, is it ?
Also it kinda underline the fact that "toilet sign" works OK even though it is kind of a fuzzy system (eg that women cutting the line is neither legally nor morally in the wrong). So no point in legislating/forcing rules w/r/t them.
>>6496936
And why cis men don't want us in theirs either.
tfw people hate you for no reason
>>6496975
That's bad. You deserve better.
>>6497024
i meant all of us
>>6497024
qt bune btw
>>6496954
No, cis men don't want a boner keeping them from peeing. They are also worried it makes them gay.
>>6496975
Yeah, it sucks.
>>6497032
That's bad. We deserve better.
Dumping cute stuff
trans lesgen is best gen
>>6497024
My girlfriend was feeling down because her boss yelled at her today, and I call her my "bun" as in bunny and she calls me her kitty, or her "cattus" as in cat. We are currently long distance so when she is feeling blue I can't give her snuggles or anything.
So I sent her this picture!
She said it really helped her so thank you ily.
>>6497134
You're already lost anon.
I'm truly sorry.
>>6497159
;;-;;
Fuck
>>6497134
> I want a cute butt
do squats
> I want a perfect boy pussy
shave your ass, use creams for a smooth skin, use dildos (average or below length/girth)
> But I have huge balls and a decent sized penis
whats wrong about that, you look cute, probably only insecure bi-scum tops would mind that
>>6497134
Step one. That haircut is atrocious. Fix it for the love of science!
You already have the red flannel so your that much closer to being a lesbian... (I assume your interested in girls right or why are you here? but your also talking about boipussi sooooo)
If you want to be a femboy the go ask those threads but keep it out of here haha.
You will lose at least 25% of penis length. Erections will be painful if you don't "excercise" it regularly.
You won't "won't lose yourself" or at least it won't feel that way. I know my girlfriend says my personality has changed a lot etc, but I didn't feel like I changed very much at all. She says I am like a different person in a lot of ways. The things I like doing are the same, but mannerisms, and the way I react to things are drastically different.
you look young as fuck so you will likely have great results. Seems like you don't have much facial hair either so that is good. Somewhat of a good faceshape for this going in.
However. . .I don't really condon taking female hormones to become a femboy. I think you will have a lot of regret about it. If you don't have dysphoria now, you likely will when you start taking whoremones.
You also have a pretty prominent adams apple which means passing will be more difficult.
You should try wearing clothes that fit if you care about your appearance.
All that is my 2cents on this. You do you anon... you do you....
>>6493851
>Cool, sounds good. I wish I could escape this farm in outer bumfuck. My social life is almost dead because of it.
Aww, that sounds pretty lonely. My job is a fairly social setting so I get to talk to so many people and stuff just sort of happens.
I am reaching my one year mark on HRT in like 12 days now. So happy with how it is going for me too. Haven't even had anyone really be rude to me at all, especially outside of my workplace.
I also realized I haven't been around here for a while, so I sorta feel like added an updated pic. Taken while out for a walk with my partner while it was gorgeous out.
>>6497189
Your the best anon -hugs-
>>6497194
Nice pic, nice dress.
all i want is to cuddle with my qtpi forever
drinking by myself in the middle of a rain storm, watching orange is the new black with occasional crying breaks.
My girlfriend is asleep on the opposite side of the country. Feels bad famjam.
>>6497194
I remember you :) Sounds like things are going well for you.
Trying my trip on tablet. The mains power went out.
So I've gotten back into running to attempt to bulk my ass up a bit, and just to get fit and stop being a slug, the most physical activity I've done in the past month is hiking for a few hours every couple of weeks. These times were all on a 3 mile loop.
Day one, ran for 10 minute, walked 30, ran 10
2 days later ran 15, walked 20ish, ran 10
next day (today), ran 30.
My entire body is so extremely sore I can barely walk, but being able to make that amount of progress makes me not even care about the pain. Just give me that booty.
>tfw love someone so much I spend every moment thinking about her, imagining conversations in my head, longing to be with her, day dreaming about what it'll be like when we finally meet in person, checking my phone for her texts, and more..
I'm still not sure if her and I should date or not but I love her more than life and I have for a long time and it only grows as time goes on.
>>6497930
Yeah, I remember you too. Yep, things are going well. Still going pretty strong with the friend I got with, been together about 2 or so months now. I've learned a lot of stuff I just had no idea about. Like, I know I never want to sleep alone ever again for sure. I've also experimented with what I do and don't like, and it has led to me determining I want to get the full surgery. I had decided I should get some experience before jumping into that decision, but I know for sure now.
How have things been for you?
>>6498282
Oh another runner. I've been steadily running 3 times a week for the last year and it has helped so much with feeling and looking better. Totally recommend you continue, but recommend you be careful and don't hurt yourself.
>>6498333
do it
>>6498460
Ah, well, I don't know, maybe my emotions are running wild again. We'll see what happens when I visit her next month, maybe pic related shall.
The main thing I'm iffy on is sex I guess, I haven't really thought of her sexually before and it's just kind of not something I do with her I guess. But I do kinda need to lewd, spiro hasn't completely killed that need.
>>6497197
I'm a faggot, so I guess I'm allowed to send cringy hugs over the internet.
Life is torture.
When I browse /s/ looking for cute girls the more attractive I find them the more dysphoric it makes me. :(
>>6498282
Yay! Good on you for starting to get fit!
Although if your goal is to bulk up your butt then you should also do butt-targeting exercises, like glute bridges.
Running alone won't really help to bulk anything, unless you're either doing sprint workouts or you started out really really skinny.
>>6499095
I plan to start that as well. Running is more of a necessity I justify to myself through minor incentives. My nearly 60 year old dad was running up the mountain while I had to take breaks ever 10 minutes. This can't go on.
I'm bored, /tlg/
what do
>>6500284
Well what have you been up to that made you bored in the first place?
>>6498704
>You're adorable, you can do it.
After talking it over with her I'm not sure it's destined to be. But that's okay, no matter what happens, as long as she's close to me, everything is okay.
>>6500301
My laptop is ded so I can't play vidya or talk to my friends on skype/discord
>>6500284
Sort your whoremoan cabinet. With reference number and spreadsheets.
>>6500323
ah...I don't have anything like that
>>6500318
Yikes. So you're on your phone right now?
Girl go read a book. I have a disgusting amount of Faith in trans women when it comes to them learning stuff. You guys are geniuses. Or there's always tv. I forget its an option sometimes. Do ballet work outs. That shapes a more femme body. Idk. Hell tell me something new and interesting that happened at work. Im always up for a good read.
>>6500362
>You guys are geniuses
This skipped me unfortunately...
>>6500362
Yeah. And I guess I could read...there's this book I bought a while ago I've been meaning to finish.
Off topic question but
Are straight guys more likely to fuck gay guys?
Or are lesbians more likely to fuck straight guys?
>>6500383
straight guys are more likely to fuck gay guys, imo.
>>6500383
Probably lesbians, female sexuality seems more fluid, there's not as much stigma, and compulsive hetrosexuality is a thing.
>>6500370
No really, it didn't. Just observing your posts you can tell you have it to.
>>6500377
Reading is always a good busy thing to do, and I don't know about you but I'm a slow reader. So it takes me a wile to get threw stuff. Well unless its interesting, then I cant put that mf down, I lose sleep and forget to eat. But it has to be a good fuckin book. Or something I am really really interested in. For some reason I love crime and punishment. That book is epic. but then I read lesbian erotica and that's a pretty good page turner to. lel
>>6500383
If a girl fucks a dude, shes not a lesbian, but if a guy fucks a dude hes still straight.
get your shit together.
>>6500398
Whatever intelligence I seem to have is hampered by me being an ADHD scatterbrain.
>>6500399
There's this "prison gay" phenomenon.
But yeah compulsory heterosexuality is definitely a thing.
>>6500403
What kinda logic is that?
>>6500398
Lesbian erotica? Do you have any recommendations?
>>6500413
oh good point
does the gay prison phenomenon not work with lesbians too?
>>6500410
Is it wrong that I don't think you have ADHD but you just might think like a women? Hormones mess with that, from what I have observed cis women can think many things at the same time, cis men compartmentally think, I'm thinking that as your body changes so does your train of thought, so I think you would just have to learn to think like a girl, and instead of thinking your thoughts are scattered you are just getting the rush of information girls get when they think, if you have more estrogen in your system your brain should have been doing this all along.
Mind you this is just a theory of mine.
>>6500415
lel "logic" your silly.
>>6500416
yeah, its literally called lesbian erotica, its a series, if you can get your hands on all of them you will have really good reading material for a wile, I think there are like seven out now.
>>6500422
Yes, as someone who has been, its actually the first place I heard about the whole "gay for the stay" thing.
>>6500437
It's an interesting idea but I've always been this way.
Then again I've always been a girl so maybe you're right after all.
Somehow I need to find the strength, will, determination, whatever it is, inside me to actually focus on something for an extended period of time instead of making a tiny bit of progress and then getting side tracked.
>>6500453
>its literally called lesbian erotica
Oh. Okay, thanks!
>>6500456
Yeah, and it has already been proven that transgender people tend to have the train of thought of the sex they wish to be. So it very well could just be that men want you to think like a man, but in reality its just like forcing someone who is right handed to write with their left.
Its always going to be harder because that just not the way your brain works, its forcing your self to do something the way everyone thinks it should be done, but in reality that's not the way it works at all.
once again this is all just theory.
WHY CAN'T I PASS?!?
WHY CAN'T I BE PRETTY?!?
WHY IS THE WORLD SO SHIT?!?
GAHD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
sry....
>>6500489
Random...
>>6500489
Well, what's stopping you? What have you done to work at it?
>>6500484
I'm still terrible at focusing regardless of whatever caused it, I gotta figure out a way to deal with it.
>>6500489
yikes
>>6500502
sorry... just feeling really terrible about myself tonight. needed to vent, and this place seemed pretty chill... i hate myself so much.
>>6500512
genetics i guess. i mean. it's not like i try that hard to pass, but i thought i'd get further than this at least...
>>6500538
Takes more than genes bae. If you wanna be pretty you gotta put the work in, same goes for cis girls. How many months HRT are you?
>>6500521
Now why in the earth would you do a thing like that when you know I don't hate you? and I'm a cool kid. thus for you must be awesome.
>not hugboxing I really do in fact love people. I'm just a naturally squishy person.
>>6500512
Look babe all you have to do is connect all those thoughts, that's how I do it, happens to us chicks all the time, kind of how we are great multitaskers.
>>6500558
Perhaps. I should at least practice this stuff instead of shitposting all night and day. Maybe I'll set some tasks for myself to do tomorrow to exercise my mind.
>>6500541
about a year and 8 months.... i just feel like im not going anywhere anymore. like dont get me wrong. i do work on it, but not religiously... i get gendered right in public... but i honestly feel like people are just being nice to me... not that im actually passing.
http://imgur.com/a/PMIWc
>>6500558
y-you dont know me tho, anon... how could you love me? believe me. im not worth it.
>>6500566
Fwiw I think you pass. Especially if you get gendered right in public. The world isn't a hugbox.
If you feel like you still have somewhere to go, pick something you feel is important to take care of and start working on that.
>>6500566
Huh, you're pretty cute.
>>6500566
Doesn't matter what you think. I think you are a great person, thus for you are. It just is. An opinion is a good way to study oneself (IT IS JUST TO STUDY ONESELF, its not fact). I am critical about what people see when they deal with me, so I will be better the next time, "I will do what I can for as long as I can" Mind you the only people who have the power to stop me are the people who don't care about others enough to think that they matter. You matter. and you matter because I just said that you matter to me, see how that works. ^-^
>>6500561
Its a lot to take in but you will see what I mean once you get the hang of it.
This is just MY theory.
>>6500575
i don't know what to do anymore. i feel like most of my issues are structural things... like my chin and nose and forehead and cheekbones and brow and body and penis and thick ass neck and small ass butt and tiny hips and... well you get it, pretty much everything i cant really fix. sorry to sound so defeatist. im just having a bad night. thank you so much for the advice. it means a lot <3
>>6500582
uh t-thanks anon. im having a tough time seeing it.
>>6500599
d'aww <3 thank you anon
>>6500599
I know, it's your theory, but it's an interesting one I'm going to think about a bit myself.
>>6500609
Learn to love and work with what you feel you cannot fix, then. I'm sure it's not nearly as bad as dysphoria vision makes it seem, however.
I hope you feel better tonight, I wish I could stick around to talk more but I must get some rest. Goodnight!
>>6500636
Sleep well, Grace
>>6500636
G-nite young one.
>>6500644
>>6500665
i was seriously not expecting this kind of love tonight. thank you for being so awesome tlg....
>>6500362
>I have a disgusting amount of Faith in trans women when it comes to them learning stuff. You guys are geniuses.
:3
The fact that I'm quick to learn things and smarter than most is the only thing I've always sorta liked about myself.
Also, are you a cis woman?
Can we please not circlejerk about intelligence ? It's pretty cringe.
If you really really have to, print pic related and put it on your wall, or something.
>>6501494
I'm >>6501401 and I didn't mean to start a circlejerk or make it sound like I'm a supergenius.
It's just that I hate everything else about myself, so it's nice being able to embrace being a little smarter than average as one of the few good qualities I have.
Sorry for acting cringey though. I'll stop now.
>>6501568
Don't sweat it, you're fine :^)
>It's just that I hate everything else about myself,
That's sad... Hopefully it will get better.
> few good qualities I have.
So what are these ?
Entertain me while I do my weekly stuff
>>6498368
I wish I could say things are going great, but unfortunately I've had a bout with chronic fatigue syndrome. I have not really gotten any transition done in the past year despite being on hormones and anti-androgens for the whole time. The metabolic slowdown that CFS has caused is interfering with transition.
I also seem to have had my main computer go kaput. I think it's the power supply but I'm not sure at this point. I haven't done extensive testing of it yet.
>>6501659
like dilate your inverted penis?
>>6501623
>So what are these ?
Well, I mentioned being a quick learner.
I'm also empathetic and caring, but the flip side of that is that for most of my life I was a pushover afraid to stand up for myself because I hated conflict, and I wasted years trying to repress and live up to what I thought was expected of a man.
>>6501720
Penis ?
Nah merely dilating my vagina
>>6501401
For me it's always been if I can maintain the interest in it, I can learn it. I managed to learn architecture and chaos theory that way, plus a lot of other things over the years. The only limit that I found to my self teaching is my attention span for the topic.
>>6501722
You sound like a decent person.
You've stopped repressing. That's good. Have you taken step toward trying not to hate yourself too much ?
>>6500362
It is interesting you make that comment about learning. A very early researcher in transgender issues IQ tested his subjects, and found a 2 standard deviation higher IQ in is transgender patients. I've always personally thought there was a lot of selection bias involved in that number. These were people who came forth looking for help long before there was really any public knowledge of transgenders.
What I say about myself and IQ is I obviously had the intelligence to notice very early on that I was different than all of the other kids. On the flip side is the fact in my family, between my sibling, parents, cousins, aunts, and uncles, I by far have the highest IQ. I'm an unknown amount higher than any of the others. It isn't the case that they are not intelligent. Of all of them I'm the only one without a PhD. At this point all I know about my IQ is I maxed out a test that was being used by researchers researching high IQs. Of course that was before I had two TBIs, both of which caused personally changes.
>>6501822
I've stopped repressing a while ago, actually.
It's just that I'm still upset with myself for having repressed for as long as I did, and because afterward I wasted like a year trying to get hrt the "legit" way instead of just self-medding immediately.
>Have you taken step toward trying not to hate yourself too much ?
Well, I'm about 2.5 months on hrt now. It's helped a lot so far and I hate myself a lot less than I used to, but still, sometimes I just have those days where I think I'm gonna be stuck as a disgusting hon forever and I wanna give up and kms.
>>6487382
>any height, prefer a bit taller, but not a deal breaker
>intelligent
>has a strong sense of self
>athletic but not /fit/
>artsy
>cute face
>not a hamplanet
>has a benis
>>6501848
Don't be too hard on yourself, it's not your fault you repressed, we all make mistake sometime. You're on the right path now.
> sometimes I just have those days where I think I'm gonna be stuck as a disgusting hon forever and I wanna give up and kms.
I've had that feel many time. But less and less lately. You give yourself a chance, OK ?
>>6501401
Why yes., yes I am a cis woman.
I'm a lesbo
>>6501831
naw, ive ben studying the trans community for a wile now, and I did come across that study. So I went to go see for myself, sort of a field research sort of thing. And yeah its true, from what my findings are, trans People (mtf OR ftm) tend to have a greater ability to retain information.
>>6502006
>we all make mistake sometime.
True.
It's hard to forgive myself for a mistake that cost me as dearly as this one has, but I'm trying to move forward and not dwell on the past.
>You give yourself a chance, OK ?
Yeah, sometimes I get frustrated with where I am now, but I have to remind myself that transition is a long and slow process, and if I keep pushing through it then maybe some day I'll be passing and cute.
>>6502134
Or, devil's advocate, people with greater ability to retain information are more likely to be infected by the trans-meme.
>>6501699
Aww, that sounds pretty awful. Even if it is delayed though, it will still happen? I'd hate to think you just lose it.
>>6502134
I honestly think that the knowledge retention thing is pretty true. I know I've never been able to forget pretty much anything I've ever come directly participated in. The other major talents I have is pattern recognition and problem solving, and they usually give me instant solutions to anything that I happen to glance at. I don't know if being trans is any bearing on those though.
Where do yall gals shop at/is there a style yall like? I desperately need to expand my wardrobe and would love some suggestions other than the obvious shops such as Forever21/HM/etc.
>>6503083
Pretty much any physical place that has something in the window that I like and isn't ridiculously overpriced...
Other than that, amazon, the big Chinese online stores and French mail order companies...
My style is pretty much my own, though, and supplemented with homemade clothes, jewelry and accessories, so... Probably not the best person to give advice.
blep
Well, I diagnosed my computer. I'm positive it's the power supply now.
>>6503083
Actually, oddly enough, I tend to find a lot of good stuff at consignment shops like Savers. But when I actually get new and good stuff, I tend to get Kohl's when it hits a 70% or so off sale with coupons and stuff as well. I love getting $400-$500 in clothes for $150, cause then you end up with an additional $30 in free Kohl cash and I just spend that part online and get some other things usually still on discount from that sale.
>>6503083
What's your style ? What would you want your style to be ?
>>6504223
is it terminal?
>>6505883
PSU failures often involve busted electrolytics with leakage, plus burnt out transistors. And they're rather nasty to repair, so... it's not bad practice to treat it as terminal without checking further, especially if it smells bad. Even if just replacing caps can sometimes be enough. Replacing the whole unit is easy, and cheap unless you have power hungry hardware in that computer anyway.
>>6505820
Btw I got a new top.
Always thought this kindof thing would not work on my tranny body, but heh...
>>6506673
Don't see why it wouldn't. It's loose enough to camouflage shapes, the neckline is just above the cleavage danger zone and it's sleeveless so your shoulders don't stretch it in a weird way.
>>6504649
you know those are just marketing scams right?
>>6506914
What do you mean?
How is having 70% off sales a marketing scam?
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/love/
>>6505883
The power supply is toast and it isn't the fuse inside it. It'll likely only be 50 bucks or so to replace it. It's only a 500 watt unit. The biggest issue I've seen is most power supplies for sale today top vent their fan. Mine vents out the back. I just have to get out somewhere where I can find one and purchase it.
>>6505990
And I even know how to do those types of repairs. I think it's actually a pair of small transistors or possibly voltage regulators. They have a sign that they had been quite hot, but no obvious smoke let out.
I likely should just replace the whole computer for power savings alone. The computer runs 24/7, and has a power-hungry Athlon Phenom 4 CPU. It would also be nice to have a bit more memory. I just don't really have the money to do an upgrade now.
>>6505820
Right now my style is pretty much nonexistant. I mostly just dress androgynously. I really like the androgynous look but I'm not sure if its just because I feel like I couldn't pull off more feminine clothing. Everytime I see something super cute I always think "but on me.." I guess it doesn't help that I'm not too far along in my transition, but I want to keep the progress going.
>>6507069
....really?
the simplest example is
>want to sell something for $8
>mark it as $10
>put it on "sale" for $8
>wow 20% off!
it's just this idea but with different numbers, and multiple "mark downs" to make people feel like they're getting a deal
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/business/jc-penneys-chief-ron-johnson-announces-plans-to-revamp-stores.html?_r=0
this store tried to stop doing it for a while, but it killed sales so they went back to the trick way
>>6509417
Oh, fungal marketer coming into a women's thread and calling us guys. Isn't that endearing...
