If you're FTM and you fantasize about:
>growing a beard
>bodybuilding
>scoring "pussy"
>kissing cute twinks
>hanging out with "bros"
>doing """"manly""""" activities like sports, carpentry, pub-crawling, fighting etc.
then you're AGP and need to quit posturing yourself as trans, or more specifically, as a man.
>>6480438
how is fantasizing about manly things AGP? if anything, wouldn't that be AAP?
>>6480449
Oh my GOD yeah. I was just using it as a coverall term.
>>6480438
I'm cis and I sometimes fantasize about growing a majestic UNIX beard in a non-sexual way. What am I?
>>6480438
>scoring "pussy"
But I thought FTMs didn't want pussy?
>>6480438
I don't get why so many of you fucking degenerates cannot understand your own criteria.
All of these are fine as long as you still experience gender dysphoria.
If you haven't had gender dysphoria as a child and still do not have it now, you are not trans. It's that simple.
>>6480462
>>6480438
>thinks it's weird for trans men who can't or haven't had male experiences to desire and fantasize about those experiences
>using AGP to describe trans men
>using AGP to describe trans men when you don't know what the acronym stands for
>posts with cute azn girl, so probably an AGP uggo to begin with
confirmed idiot
>>6480438
the term you're looking for is AAP. andro and gyno are different things.
I mean, I probably am autoandrophilic, but seeing as how everyone who meets me assumes I'm a cis guy immediately and my life is totally normal in most respects I just roll with it
If you're FtM and sexually attracted to men, you're simply not FtM
>>6480554
UNIX beards are far from majestic.
>>6480449
Can someone explain to me what AGP and AAP is?
Someone called me MtF before and dunno what it means.
> MtF
> Bisexual
> Pass as cis girl
> Already been misgendered as girl since I was a kid and felt damn good
> Started to realize what genderdysphoria was reaching teens as I didnt want to be guy and wanted to live as girl
> Post op now
> Happy having a vg and pass as cis.
> Am fine with gender binaries, but don't care about feminists doing their thing as long as I can keep doing my thing being feminine
>>6484739
I mean someone called me AGP before, I was rewriting my post a few times.
>>6484739
Gynophilia and androphilia are more accurate terms for attraction towards femininity and masculinity.
Heterosexual women and some gay men are androphiles, that is attracted to masculinity and male-ness.
Auto in this usage means towards self. For instance a erotic asphyxiation is breath play, but auto-erotic asphyxiation means self-breath play. Ok?
So AGP and AAP means autogynephilia and autoandrophilia. Which basically means that the people are not attracted to femininity and masculinity in others but in themselves. They get aroused by the thought of imagining themselves being feminine or masculine and are fetishizing appearance and qualities in themselves not others.
If you're trans and do anything but wallow in your own misery and commit suicide, then you aren't trutrans and need to go back to tumblr, poser
>>6484758
Thanks for explaining, dont see how this would make me AGP.
>>6480554
you are free as freedom
>>6480438
OP is an idiot. Case closed.
As an MTF this is just stupid. There are born males who want to do all the shit you listed. Fuck I hate people like you who insist on trying to split an already shit on community with your exclusionary, "I'm better and more special than you" bullshit
>>6480438
>>6484758
>>6484930
There is no such thing as AAP, there is no thing as AGP.
>>6480438
AAP individuals might be trans. Blanchard's transsexual typology is literally called Blanchard's TRANSSEXUAL typology i.e. both groups are transsexuals.
I wonder whether the AAPs on this board know this since we mostly talk about this shit in /agpg/. It sucks if they're mislead by people like OP. This is why I wanted a unified general.
>>6480438
i love sitting in my room and fantasizing about a good pub-crawl
>>6485080
Blanchard was discredited by the professional community, all of his conclusions dismissed and thrown out. He was a hack who made self verifying theories that were nonsense, like AGP.
I only fantasize about growing a beard and bodybuilding but not for sexual reasons. Sex actually makes me really dysphoric, but I haven't met any other FTM's that experience the same thing.
>>6485095
Some of Blanchard's work has since been discredited and he as an individual is not very sympathetic but the condition he described and the experience of some people with it is real. Just take a look at /agpg/ or this thread.
http://deploy.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/5788347/
>>6457092
If your experience is different then that's fine but please don't go and erase so many people. Such erasure is part of what prevented many of us from even considering that we were anything but fetishists for a very very long time.
>>6485120
Im sure I can find tons of self proclaimed otherkin, demiwhatevers, genderfluids, and all sorts of made up identities flocking together pretending their conditions are real too. AGP general is made up of confused crossdressers and repressed trannies, there is no such thing as AGP.
>>6485143
>"I just like taking hormones to be female and wearing women's clothes and thinking of myself female and other womanly things, I'm not a tranny I'M NOT A TRANNY"
>>6485151
it's a tripfag who doesn't use her trip anymore so you can't block her
OP wouldn't that be AAP?
>>6485192
Trip is on in /mtfg/ right now.
>>6485199
i don't see the point in removing trip but still using the same weeb pics with every post
>>6485205
I dont see the point in removing weeb pics but every post trip point see I don't
>>6485210
>but every post trip point see I don't
