Sup /lgbt/, /fit/ here
How the fuck do I turn gay? I am outwardly and inwardly male and desperately need to fuck feminine pussy, most gay thing I've ever done was jacked off to trap and maidboy porn.
I'm so tired of women. I don't desire to desire them any more. Please, if any of you know any way to turn gay, please tell me.
I'm aware the majority of you didn't choose to be gay and I feel for people who deal with tough shit because of stuff they didn't choose, but if even one of you has gone from straight to gay that's information I need.
>>6474841
I'm serious. Is there no hope for me?
>>6474949
If you have never found yourself naturally, spontaneously attracted to a cute guy, then no.
>>6474982
I was hoping something could grow from my ability to jack off to feminine traps. I've noticed hot dudes before. How do I turn admiration into lust?
>>6475017
Idk, just go for traps, they're all over the place.
>>6475052
Idk it seems kind of demeaning to traps. None have ever approached me irl, I don't want to date someone just because they fulfil one of my fetishes.
If I met someone and then later found out they fulfilled my fetishes that'd be a different story. I am old school as far as relationships go tho.
Where to meet very femme boys in a nonsexual context?
>>6475079
Gsa, pride events, 18+ gay nights at clubs, Ariana Grande concerts, etc....
>>6475090
Alright got it. I'm gonna go for it anon, last question any tips on how to hit on traps without seeming like I'm into them because they're traps?
Assuming I meet someone interesting.
>>6475017
If you're looking to get into guys I wouldn't start by fantasizing about minor things (making out, touching) involving feminine guys and then get more masculine and intense from there. Seeing as you're used to being into girls, any sort of adjustment you make should be gradual in order for you to actually find it hot. I think a lot of guys make the mistake of thinking that you need to jump straight to anal with a jacked dude in order to get into guys.
In my own experience, I started out as mostly into girls with some bi-curious tendencies toward guys, but after transitioning MtF actually flipped the other way. This process happened gradually like I described, and some people say the phenomena is due to HRT, but personally I think it also had to do with me exploring that side of me.
Injecting yourself with the marijuanas turns you gay.
oh excellent, I offer this exact service.
if you live in london, I charge no fee for my service but an overnight stay and if you just bring some drinks we can be done by the morning.
You'll be 100% gay in no time, guaranteed, just ask if you want some testimonials.
>>6475337
I'm not in London but I'd be interested if not an unfunny joke and actually a sexuality changing magician who can turn me happy by making me gay.
>>6474841
You're not gonna make it.
I'm sorry.
>>6477934
It hurts
Shemale and trap porn is how I started out. You gradually move on to standard twinks from there and finally worship masculine, hairy, musclebound studs. You also tend to shift from top to bottom by the end, but there are methods to avoid this. It's been over ten years since I've even thought about women in sexual terms.
Just take your time and don't force it. The "natural born" fags will look down on you, but it's perfectly possible to learn to love the same sex. You just need a lot of porn and a lot of patience.
>>6474841
>How the fuck do I turn gay?
Why the fuck would you ever want that? First thing you've to consider is that the dating pool, actual dating, not hookups or sex pool, is very very very small. You'd probably end up single for a very long time.
It's not a happy life being gay, nobody really cares about our issues and everyone just wants to use us as peons on the political field.
Also nice picture
>tfw no /fit/ native bf
>>6475017
>hot dudes
That admiration might as well already be lust, but gay porn is often pretty shitty, you should try to see how you feel about drawn porn. Some bara artists are pretty good, I'd recommend Mentaiko for starters like yourself.
>>6479437
Just don't date a bisexual, whatever you do.
This is one of the funniest threads I've ever seen on 4chan
Going through the traps -> she males -> twinks blablabla route is dumb.
Instead you need to focus on porn where the its guys pleasure and only his pleasure.
So start by watching girls give rim jobs -> prostate fingering -> strap-on porn -> CFNM -> forced bi femdom
then you'll tire of all the build up and you'll start seeking out muscle guys flip flopping, I promise you.
>>6479437
Come back when you're done, I'm really into fit guys.
>>6479125
You'd be hardpressed to find a native that is simultaneously gay and in touch with their culture.
Like you might find someone who's racially native and talks like they know anything about native culture, but if someone's simultaneously comfortable with a nonhetero noncis identity and a native cultural heritage I guarantee you they grew up like any middle class white kid in hartford or los angeles or something.
Whereas any homo who grew up on or around the rez would either be extremely repressed or a hyperabused drug addicted whore by now.
But yeah, that sweet spot would be perfect. Best of like finding one. The calm, quiet voice, the cinnamon skin and black hair, the deep black eyes. I met a guy who was a tribal attorney who would use his vacations to walk out into the woods, make his own bow and arrows, and hunt a deer to bring home and eat for a few weeks.
Imagine doing that with your indian boyfriend.
>>6479497
Is there anyone who's not into physically fit people? It implies so much positive about lifestyle, attitude, and personality.
>>6479473
You have a strange sense of humor.
>>6479505
There are degenerates that prefer fat people.
>>6479514
I mean I understand fetishes but as far as an adult relationship (which after I turn gay I intend to have) why would you prefer fatties?
Unless they validated your own complacency in which case both are doomed to sadness.
>>6479500
My brain is wired to like their appearance. I guess the correct statement would be.
>tfw no /fit/ genetically native bf
Closest thing I've found is a weird mix of different asian subtypes which surprisingly lead to a similar phenotype of the native americans.
And it's pretty ridiculous to say "native american culture" because in reality they differ a lot from each other, specially the natives from the north and the natives from the south, which may have an central american influence.
But yeah nothing will come close to that tone of skin and the long dark cascade.
>>6479505
Go into masc gen or gaygen for some time and prepare to be disgusted.
For some reason as soon as people don't like body hair they are "100% bisexuals liking closeted trannies and should just live a straight life", even if the person in question is a 6 on kinsey scale.
>>6479535
I appreciate your meaning, my only real life exposure has been to reservations on the southwest. Totally forgot natives exist elsewhere for a second.
good luck finding him anon
>>6479547
Funny that's where I'll be moving soon, found a job for my family in arizona, getting ready to enter an university close to a reservation, so I'd probably benefit from hearing firsthand accounts about them.
>>6479570
About native folks?
Just make some friends and get them to take you to make bonfires/ go camping/ and at least try hunting once. If you're into hunting keep a gun in your truck for shooting coyotes, you get $50 for a pelt and the gps coordinates where you killed it. I don't care how much you make, that's a free date night or pair of pants. No reason to turn it down.
Great life memories to be made if you're open to experiences in the outdoors and have some friends who know the interesting spots in the region. Lots of really sad alcoholism and neglect in poorer areas but at a uni you'd probably get the most well adjusted folks.
Honestly I'd say the rezes in the southwest are the closest thing we have to true brutal african-ass poverty in the US.
>>6474841
Most gay people are born gay. I was not though. Started putting things in my asshole, after a while I wanted dick in there.
Being a cumdump was much more fun than being straight. Later I just started to find girls boring.
When I was 17 I fucked a 37 year old dilf I meet on craiglist
>>6479595
>just make some friends
Oh dear I'm not good with that, too shy I guess.
I'm a big city nerd guy, never went hunting camping or anything, moving close to the arizona desert will be a big adventure for me.
Do the natives there accept well foreigners?
>>6479655
I mean there's going to be a lot of people who aren't native too. You'll be fine anon. Definitely try to get outside though, the SW sucks if you don't commit yourself to some solid decivilization time.
>>6479664
>solid decivilization time
What?
Also pic related, I'm always surprised how asians and natives are genetically close.
>>6479535
The innate desire lies in every white man to ream people with skin tones darker than his.
This is a race that sometimes discovers continents just to produce an entire population of half breeds and leave. Love colonization sex.
>>6479687
Well they're kind of fat a lot too, diabetes is a real prob in that group.
Decivilization time. You know, get away from manners and your job and computers and roads and shit. Find yourself in relation to nature. It's real.
>>6479699
It's the attraction to the exotic, can't really fight it.
>>6479705
I know, I'm good at making people lose weight tho, making them gain weight, not so much.
I'm quite aware of the problems of the reservations on the area, lack of access to quality food, water, few opportunities inside the reservations.
That's exactly what my family has been working with in the slums of my native city, so I hope we can change a few things there too.
>>6474841
Get on grinder.
Call it a day
>>6479804
He doesn't sound like the average degenerate type
Don't do it OP, it's not worth it
t. biscum forcing themselves to be straight
>>6474841
If you're striking out with women, you're going to have an even harder time with men.
>>6480127
Ignoring the fact that your picture has more holes than a jew has lies, women and biscums are just as cancerous.
>>6480179
Female and bisexual stats are on there too man, that's why I saved it. As a biscum or MSM (men who have sex with other men) I'm on there too, and as part of the
>nearly half of all gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 will not reach their 65th birthday
>>6479437
>PS I don't care if I"m single for a long time as long as next time I'm in a loving relationship it's not with a fucking female.
Do you think that gays are any better? There's a reason why biscums usually end up with a woman.
>>6480198
Like I said the image is full of holes, it puts the weight of people being depressed on the depressed person, it ignores to say that many of those HIV, number of parnters statistics were made at the doors of orgy clubs, it fails to say the logistic problem of gay men and MSM having two different definitions, it fails to show the difference of HIV transmission per race, it fails to show the positive sides that gay men have.
I've seen and studied those /pol/tarded images before, they are full of shit that you'd normally only see on libtard images or texts.
>>6480250
Because ending up with a minority is a statistical impossibility and many biscum want children and prefer to stay on the closet.
>>6474841
you can't sorry mAte
>>6475079
Make a fet life account and just say that you have a trap fetish then find traps that like that
>>6474841
/trash/ reporting in.
Furry porn is a scarily effective gayteway drug for that.
How far are you willing to go, /fit/? Are you willing to become a total degenerate? Is it worth it?
>Captcha is rivers
Nice try, that's the ocean!
>>6480774
Can attest
>>6480774
Not willing to go that far. I'd rather make slow natty gains then take the furry shortcut, I don't know any furries in real life but those I know from the Internet are sad people
>>6474841
It will not work, you cannot change your sexuality. If you want to merely nuke your sex drive, try using a selective-serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI), or an anti-androgen (AA) if the SSRI fails. You might need a relatively high dosage of a n SSRI to suppress sex drive though, but watch out for serotonin syndrome/poisoning. Alternatively, fake depression (SSRI) or pedophilia (SSRI or AA) or gender dysphoria (AA, might also require you take an estrogen) so a doctor can figure out the proper dosage. Also, osteoporosis is potentially an issue with using an AA, there should be not involving estrogen to prevent that, worse case you have to use a selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM) to prevent osteoporosis, which will have much less effects than a usual estrogen. The best solution, of course, is to simply accept yourself.
>>6483002
*an SSRI
*there should be a solution not involving estrogen
>>6483002
Wouldn't risk my gains fucking with my endocrine system anyway famalam
>>6479535
It is not very surprising considering that Native Americans migrated to the Americas from Asia.
>>6482955
Furry may mean either people who are insane like the ones who got to furry conventions and use fursuits or just people who fap to furry like http://gojira2012.tumblr.com/post/51263845027/commission-for-kogenta-on-fa-wanna-go-again pic related.
>>6483017
Then use SSRIs instead of an AA, which was my suggestion to try before using an AA anyway, if you wish to suppress sex drive. In any case, you appear to be attracted to guys anyway from your other posts, so this is a moot point.
>>6482955
Furry is really the surest route tho OP...
give in to the awoo OP
>>6480127
delet this
>>6474841
sissy trainers
>>6480299
biscum reporting in
It's basically this. Women who are attracted to men and overwhelmingly more common than gay guys. I've got a girlfriend. And if you're a lucky bi guy and you find a girl who likes pegging, you can pretty much roleplay. It's not the same obviously, but it gets closer to having the best of both worlds when compared to gay men. IMO, the better guys are bi or straight anyway, there are too many girly vain gay guys. I rather have an androgynous woman than a girly gay guy. I have more in common with them.
>>6484922
The best case for bi guys, or at least the sort of bi guy I am, would be to find a girl interested in finding a regular guy to include for both of us.
Also, since women tend to be better at seduction and persuasion she can probably turn the more bicurious but never intend to act on it guys into willing experimentation.
>>6484922
The only problem with women is the issue of wolves in sheep skin. you can never know what you have at hand or when the bomb might or might not explode. That's probably why he doesn't want to deal with women anymore.
>>6484945
That's because most guys can't read emotions for shit. I find women uninteresting because I can read them like a book.
>>6484965
Bullshit, women suffer at the hands of each other all the time, you can read her emotions at the time, but that doesn't mean she won't change her mind 30 times on it.
>>6484981
Woman are not rational and always give hints, even when they are about to change their mind 30 times.
Maybe it's because I have a very emotionally volatile mother, that I needed to learn to read women in order to survive.
>>6485071
I completely believe this. My dad grew up with an abusive alcoholic father and he is a freakin mind reader because he learned to sense other people's moods to avoid getting the shit beaten out of him as a kid. Fuckkng tragic, but I have seen this happen before.
And yeah I'm swearing off women for personal reasons, I don't have any problem attracting them but I think I've engaged in a few too many conversations with a few too many women. They're a terrible group, at least in my area. And I'll never leave my area because I like my hobbies.
>>6474841
Humf.
You cannot become a gay. But the differents sexualities are as genders social construction. They don't exist in human's nature. The better you can do is probably become pansexual by demolishing social rules you learned, making everyone hate you by the way because others don't like persons who critic there social base.
Maybe you should try to ask yourself existential questions like : what is gender ? Am i a male or a female ? Why i consider myself as straight ? What is making me loving women ? Can i find this in men ? Is my vision of men and women universal ? Etc...
I embraced my pansexuality by that kind of deconstruction, but in fact i always known in some way that i was not only straight but i discovered i love men much more i could immagine because social construction made me forgeting my gay me. So i cannot garantee anything.
>>6479125
>Why the fuck would you ever want that?
Have you ever actually interacted with 21st century western women? They're awful.
When you sacrifice yourself to the gay god 72 gay virgins will await you
>>6487485
>>6489096
Kek
Im sirious, that's not exactly a b8.
Look at antic life mode. They were all bi. Gay sex was not accepted, it was a standard, a standard like straight only sex is a standard today.
I think sexuality is almost hightly dependant to social conditions.
I think paleolitic was full of gay sex every time, but no writing stands about (was not existing). If we look at animals even animals like gorillas that are our near cousins, they just have no rules. Chief is fucking who he want. Loving who he want.
But, i have not universal knowledge, and it is possible that some dna thing can play a role in our preferences. I thinks its a very little one.
In fact i think that most of people are straight because the natural themself has just no preference, and they can accept straight because it's easy, don't cause problem, it is ok for them and they accept without a problem their gender roles.
>>6490925
You have nothing to back you up, the 0s and 6s on the kinsey have always existed.
