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Previous thread >>6441941
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Daily reminder you're gonna make it <3
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>>6442797
pls no
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>>6442780 relax, chill. be yourself
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>>6442807
nah.
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>>6442797
>kiwi's least favorite thing edition
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1st for a year of bigger tits!.

Also, just got a hair cut, about to make it a darker auburn
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Pride is in 2 days! Gonna wear my new anti mudslime shirt!
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>>6442810
go pet them
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good edition desu

>>6442800
oryx are you okay :?
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>>6442814
Lost the feeling..

>>6442821
.cut off my face fempai lmao
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>>6442816
take them all in one go. I swear it's a great idea.
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>>6442817
can i wear your legs?
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>>6442807
thanks you too :3
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>she fell for the "transition" meme
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>>6442829
you're gonna need to elaborate
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>>6442833
What?
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>>6442835
Guess some fall harder than others.
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>>6442841
they wanna bang you
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>>6442819
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0jlU1x3loPN
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>tfw he checks up on you regularly and cools you so you dont pass out that much
>tfw he reminds you to get some food
>tfw only making it halfway and then pass
out on the bed
>tfw he cools you by sprinkling you with water and makes sure you feel better
>tfw he makes food, and brings you new water as well

I feel a little better now, at least I didnt throw up. but what the hell did I do to deserve this guy, holy shit
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>>6442841
around my shoulders?
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>>6442817
Which pride >.>
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>>6442846
Only if they are down to protest Mudslimes with me then maybe :3
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>>6442843
is that elanna?
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>>6442838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgC9P-XECrw
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>>6442848
You were you
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>>6442848
just work hard to be the kind of person who would deserve him.
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h-he's gone

i put him back and his mom and dad came when they heard him call

my baby is gone :(
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>>6442848
d'awww so lovely :3
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>>6442852
NYC
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>>6442847
http://www.longislandaquarium.com/purchase-tickets/pricing/

come on I'll go with you
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>>6442848
Can I ask what is up with you and all the Nazi anime girls..? Just curious
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>>6442847
post more voice desu

>>6442854
But that's RACIST

>>6442856
oh okay

feel better <3
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>>6442855
Of course not.

>>6442848
God watches over fools and children.
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>>6442866
Nah, hating terrorists isn't racist.
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>>6442870
Mhm okay
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>watching gifs of cute animals
>puppers playing with their mom
>ywn b a mom
Kill me plz
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>>6442877
you could get a pupper and be it's mom
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>>6442817
cu there

>>6442866
some day I;;ll pass rgh
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>>6442864
http://vocaroo.com/i/s060DKW8SVxK
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>>6442854
I good i hate anything that doesn't have the same amount of melanin in their skin as me
>>6442877
anon please stop making me live this
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>>6442867
>canada shirt
I'm pretty sure that's Elanna.
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>>6442848
You are a nice person that's it :)
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>>6442882
I just saw your last clip and sent it to her, were dyyyyinnngg
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>>6442861
Microwave?
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>>6442879
>you could get a fake son and pretend you're a fake mom of a child with disabilities.
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>>6442884
She's not the only tranny in Canada.
Also her hair wasn't that long at one year, or blonde.
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>>6442727
Hey lovey

>>6442757
I MADE NO SUCH PROMISE

Wait, what are we talking about specifically?
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>>6442884
Not every tranny from Canucikstan is derpanna.
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>>6442889
LOL Chara pls

>>6442881
you will bb
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>>6442883
No I said mudslimes aka terrorists you retard not people of all color
fucking sand niggers need to stop hurting the lgbt community -_-
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I just had to tell a guy for the first time that I already have a bf. I feel kind of sad for him but at the same time it feels good.
WEIRD.
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>>6442900
>Wait, what are we talking about specifically?
I have no idea. I sudden;y found myself in a teenage drama with My Chemical Romance playing in the background.
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>>6442905
i knew you were a shark
bully ;~;
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>>6442877
c-cyba :(((
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reposting

>>6442795
while people can progress or regress as human beings, the quintessential components of yourself is unlikely to change from factors of externalities. there may be divorces that occur out of a specific moment, but surely there are ones that disintegrate over time.

the problem with what you're saying is, how not every long distance relationship is intentionally plotted for its great geographical proximity. a lot of the times people get into them despite of it.

also
>there is no absolute substance that makes us who we are
can you cite your sources?
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>>6442903
WHAT
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>>6442889
pls chara im a grieving mother
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>>6442905
You hurt the lgbt community by being a 6 foot tall hamplanet abomination
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>>6442918
You don't microwave birds that's silly :3
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>>6442897
>>6442901
I'm pretty sure she is.
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>you will never be a mommy

: (
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>>6442920
i dont get it
>>6442922
But thats what i want to see ;-;
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>>6442916
I answered in the other thread. I doubt anyone is interested so we can keep it there to avoid bothering others.
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>>6442921
Nice try honny, my body is near cis-tier now that I've been on mones' for almost 19 months
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>>6442927
when you have a bluejay of your own you'll understand
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>>6442925
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>>6442929
qt bobs
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>>6442858
how was that enough tho

>>6442860
Ive made a lot of progress overall since we first met I think, but its really hard still v_v

>>6442867
>fools and children
which am I?

>>6442886
>>6442862
<3 <3 <3

>>6442865
I used to never post any pictures cause I think generic reaction images are boring most of the time, but a few months ago cartman posted pic related and said thats how he imagines me irl. I liked the idea, cause Ive regularly being kraut or nazi here anyway, so I should probably fullfill the stereotype :3
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>>6442928
>>6442916
im enjoying reading it, so you may as well continue here
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>>6442929
>that ribcage
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>>6442930
If i find my own, im putting it in the microwave.
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>>6442927
But microwave is for food

If you're gonna microwave a birb you better eat it

>>6442929
w e w
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>>6442931
delet this
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>>6442932
Fuck off chaser
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>>6442929
>my body is near cis-tier now
lmao
yeah and im madonna, lol

confidence is good though
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>>6442938
>If you're gonna microwave a birb you better eat it
it would explode, so there's not much to eat.
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>>6442940
im not a chaser i was just complementing you
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>>6442941
No need to be jealous that I made it first :3
I'm sure you will too soon
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>>6442942
Well, make sure it's a big birb then.
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>>6442942
it explodes? fuck me
You ruined the mystery of it for me.
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>>6442933
>which am I?
Honestly? Both.
Also enough with this capitalist hogwash. It's time for some proletariat propaganda.
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i want to be cute
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>>6442931
i came here to shit post not to cry
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>>6442931
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DO NOT MICROWAVE BIRDS
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Don't feel the troll. That isn't Jocelyn.
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>>6442950
don't talk to me or my bird son again
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>>6442950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_142174&feature=iv&src_vid=r50vxc9sZ5M&v=uEMC_ILDDi4
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>>6442950
I'm sure there HAS to be a video of cooking living animals in a microwave. I would had assumed that an explositon would be your ideal result, you cute little creep.
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>>6442956
Don't tell us what to do

>>6442957
Can I feel you instead?
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>>6442950

>>6442956
>>6442956
>>6442956
>>6442956
>>6442956
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>>6442955
kiwi ur a good poster ily
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>>6442952
>Honestly? Both.
I knew youd go for this senpai, I KNEW it.
youre probably right as well
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>Haven't been eating
>Drink a lot of coffee and vinegar
>Got awful liquid-fire shits
>ass is in intense pain

>gf coming over later today with the intention of fucking me

How do I fix my butt before she gets here
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>>6442954
Really? I also come here to shitpost.
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>>6442952
>any year
>not a maoist
it's as if you didn't actually love your brothers and pragmatic ways to improve their lives!
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>>6442968
enema
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>>6442961
I do remember a hamster in microwave video, yeah. That was long ago, but it's probably still floating around somewhere.
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>>6442953

You already are tho
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>>6442929
Top kek my friend. All the angles in the world can't hide that barrel chest.
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>>6442931
that's so cute omg
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>>6442957
Only one trolling is you, come to nycpride Saturday and maybe I can teach you a thing or two. :3
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>>6442974
why would you watch that u sicc fucc
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>>6442966
I eagerly await the day you surprise me.
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>>6442903
not noe5d
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>>6442956
>>6442958
Don't worry, its ruined now that i know they explode.

I'l think of something else.

>>6442961
I wanted to find out myself ;-;
>>6442964
I have something else planned for you anyway.
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>>6442929
Nice boobies
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>>6442970
oh yea?
i was in a tom and jerry episode
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>>6442975
oh
that's alruight then i guess
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>play bad in dark souls 2
>die

man im getting worse at games hrt is killing my skill ;~;
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>>6442963
Sure.
>>6442978
Not at all. The actual Jocelyn doesn't even go by that anymore. And she certainly hasn't been on hormones for 19 months. And she also doesn't live in NYC. If you were real, you'd know this.
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>>6442981
noe5d?
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i'm prepared to offer u ladies a trade....
I have a cis vagina that's
>small labia
>pink, generally aesthetically pleasing
>damaged from years of failed hormonal birth control so not usable for sex for at least 6 months

in exchange I want a dick
>uncut
>at least 4 inches
>generally aesthetic

what do you say
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>>6442973
I don't have any money, can't drive, and have used all the enemas I had. Is there not any like home remedy shit that can fix this
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>>6442971
I prefer a different flavor of communism comrade.
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>>6442929
Same
>>6442941
Am...I being over confident senpai
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>>6442989
tryin to type wihout falinapret
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>>6442990
>uncut
good luck 99% of moms are fucking goi's
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>>6442993
don't get banned again faye senpai
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>>6442993
Nice bum
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>>6442980
I can probably negative-suprise you, positive suprises are unlikely though.

>>6442990
a vagina can be easily bought, the chromosomes and ovaries are the hard part.
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>>6442991
fill a waterbottle and putt it in your butt

it's not that hard :?

ALTHO not all the waterbottle

like 250ml

>>6442994
without falling asleep??
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>>6442995
In the US maybe
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>>6442984
Really? Was Tom crossdressing to catch Jerry?
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>cis tier

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAGAGGAGAGGAAGAGGAGAHDGJDFEJSHHDVDYSHSVSJBDEJ
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>>6442993
eww
faye ur all naked gross we can see ur butt
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>>6442998
you can have the ovaries and uterus free if u sign for the trade today
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>>6443002
are you ok anon
pls respond
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>>6442988
Of course I don't live in NYC, it's called a VACATION. Are you a stalker? Is really creepy that you think you know so much about me..anyways blocking you.
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>>6442982
and what would that be
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what do i eat for tits and ass
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>>6442999
lool o nub now. hw ryoy todayy?
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>>6442928
we haven't got to the bottom of it so i will continue here

>>6442880 (You)
>My problem with ldr isn't about plotting or any mean spirit, that'd be besides the point.

but that was precisely your point. how long distance relationship is for fake people due to their enhanced ability to mask their imperfections.

>It's just how I see things. I've changed a lot many times and the people around me have done the same. I don't know anyone who thinks or acts exactly as they did 5 years ago. But it's as much of a rule as if I said that I like chicken.

people go nuances of development throughout their lives.

>If you're extremely against it feel free to cite sources defending "there is an absolute substance that makes us who we are" since that's your imlied thesis and you're free to defend it.

it wasn't an implied thesis, it was an explicit question. the onus is on you to defend what you've stated.

>I don't think genes would particularly work for that argument, I guess they do make a structure that sets how we can be but they have very little control about the presentation of that. The same genes now than in the middle ages or among cavemen would result in extremely different results, for example

that's biological evolution, not the psychological development of an individual
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>>6443001
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>>6442986
>tfw you go back on testosterone and feel your gaming skills increasing exponentially
in the real world i may be a loser...
but in the gaming world... ur the loser
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>>6442998
I remain ever hopeful.
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>>6442993
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>>6443005
2 late, already have a vaggo.
shouldve come 2 years earlier, Id have offered 7,7 inches.
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>>6443007
And the real CHARLOTTE wouldn't block me because she knows exactly who I am. And no. She's made a lot of things clear. Because she's my friend. Don't quit your day job kid.
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>>6442990
>small labia
D R O P P E D
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>>6442999
>waterbottle
Would you believe it if I said I actually don't have any water bottles in my house either?

would a funnel and cup work
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>>6443012
LOL
I am sorry, I might have gone too far.
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>>6443010
I'm still not entirely sure what you're saying?

I'm good tho :3 (if that's what you asked)

How're youuu?
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>>6443008
:) Wouldn't you like to know friendpal.
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>>6443011
>(You)
thought that was my (You)
pretty disappointed ngl
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>>6443017
Very noice
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>>6443013
Same, t rage fuels me
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>>6443028
>(you)
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Why is this person so obsessed with Jocelyn
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>>6443024
im being silly I guess hehhahahahahaha . today is weird, therese dayds are weird. maybe things will be kaoy. oh noes I dont pass lol but only have respect. just respect. nothing else. why..
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>>6443022
I believe you, I don't have any either tbdesu.

A funnel and cup might work? not sure

Anything you can fill and putt in your butte that is also sanity desu

>>6443025
Tell me!
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>>6442990
what if I want to buy your ovaries and uterus? I'll add my prostate to the exchange.
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>>6442990
I'm not sure about 'aesthetic' but otherwise I've got that; would trade if that were a thing that could be done.

What do you mean "damaged from years of failed hormonal birth control" though?
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>>6442947
LMAO
I CANT EVEN
is this even actually jocelyn?
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>tfw avg penis size is 3.6 inches
>urs is 4

wtf penis ;-;
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>>6443028
sorry pal, here's one (You) for absolutely no reason at all other than kindness
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>>6442929
Post pics of your face.

Also why you wearing boy shorts.
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>>6443018
fiese oma mit hut?
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>>6443045
are you Korean or something
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>>6443035
It's going to be a surprise! :D
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>>6443047
Because I fucking can
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>>6443045
>tfw avg penis size is 3.6 inches

no its way bigger, like 5,5 in europe

>>6443049
yes
hey duck
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>>6443045
pretty sure that's non erect, erect is 5.5 inches or something
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>>6443045
is this not a meme?
maybe its because im only used to seeing old man and black dick but i've genuinely never seen a dick smaller than 5 when it was erect
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>>6442993
.........................................................................................
idk dude i'm not sure how i should most diplomatically answer this question
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>>6443054
3.5 when flaccid :P
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>>6443030
seriously though not being ironic my reflexes and spatial cognition do seem way better

>>6443032
>>6443046
AHHHHH THANK YOU LADIES I LOVE (YOU)S
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I'm still trying to figure it out.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10561348/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/10561348/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/10561348/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/10561348/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/10561348/r
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>>6443034
yeah i feel ya, every day is a weird day tbdesu

and what do you mean you only have respect???

>>6443052
I don't like surprises! D:

Tell me in skype desu

I don't let the birb know I swear
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>>6443006
I just don't get it, whenever I hear, people seeking the least possible painful way of committing suicide. I don't even get why people fear pain, I get the fear of what often comes with pain but not the thing itself. Sometimes when I feel suicidal my thoughts aren't how to die painlessly. My thoughts are on how to die unnoticed. Because while I may want to die I don't want people to get affected by it. My plans always go somewhere along the line, of disappearing leaving behind a card saying I need a break so I took off and started traveling. Best of luck to you back here. Then make around 50 notes. Get a service to send them progressively longer between. Like 1 months 2 month 4 months and so on. Saying I'm doing well no specifics, just talking about its fine and I hope you guys are still doing well. Then I often find myself wondering whether that is truly better, feeding people lies. Pesonally I'd want the truth, and it wouldn't affect me that much, but my experience says people want lies. In fact in all my life people who don't prefer lies are a rarity. And people who don't prefer lies, most of them probably still do. honestly I hate society it feels so empty, its just that everyone wants to view the world so black and white. Always take things so literally, never ever doubting. And those who do doubt never do anything else, never free themselves from words. Black and white. adding a few more colors sometimes is just so depressing, so many colors lost. Even "smart" people always have a black and white approach to things. It's so sad and frustrating. People are always so fixated on statistics. Think they can fix the world, think that there needs to be heavy morals. No one ever questioning their current logic current believes. Being so self sure. Even those who claim they don't, or should I say especially those that claim they don't. I wonder I hope I find myself curious, but only abou what is going to happen, I know I won't be alive for when any of that ha
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>>6443056
>>6443055
non-erect btw
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>>6443033
i think its an ex-client or something
>>6443062
just fucking do what u want
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>>6443062
Bully me sempai.
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>>6443059
oh Ive never seen that used before :3
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She doesn't even go by Jocelyn anymore, by the way.
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>>6443065
..o-oh
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>>6443068
>just fucking do what u want
But wouldn't that be a horrible idea?

>>6443069
Why?
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>>6443011
Fake people took effort to learn to fake things, they wouldn't choose easy mode for that. A ldr doesn't make you a fake, it makes the other person a fake interpretation of whoever is on the other side.

> the onus is on you to defend what you've stated.
as I said, I don't have anything to defend it. I know there are studies, that both defend my point and deny it, it's not the point. It's just opinion and I wouldn't want to push it to people who don't see it that way. If you have something to quote to present your point it would be okay. While the weight to present evidence is in the one proposing a theory, the one denying it is in the same position if they want their version to be seen as true.

>biological evolution
In 1000 years? that's not how evolution works, we still have our judgement teeth and we haven't needed them in much longer.
The psychological development is directly tied to the context. I have certain certanties because of how and were I grew up that wouldn't be there if I were from Australia or France. In a smaller level the things that happen in your life keep changing you. It might not be easy to notice moment to moment, but no one is the same person they were 10 years before.
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>>6443075
Why not?
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>>6443071
yeah but, she never changed her trip name, did she?
so i think theyre trying to respect her privacy or something maybe
>>6443075
you're anon
so, probably not
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>>6443038
if u have a dick that fits the description it's a deal
>>6443040
my body freaked out whenever I tried any kind of hormonal birth control. IUD, implant, pills. screwed up the balance in my vagina and made the walls raw and horribly sore.

I'm terrified of getting pregnant so I kept trying more methods even though they made it worse. and sex is terrible anyways because dysphoria. only did it for my partner.
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>>6443070
:? i mismeasured :P it is 3.7 inch so only slightly above
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>>6443053
I know you're mad that I deleted you off Skype Edie, but can we talk about this instead of you shit posting as me? I'll be on skype.
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>>6443084
Post pics of monster dong
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>>6443082
Ah. You're ftm I take it? Do you have the same issue with testosterone, if you take it?
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>>6443063
dunno.
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>>6443088
thats like illegal : P
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>>6443089
haven't started yet

it'll probably do the same thing & make me permanently unable to have any sex but butt stuff
>no dick
>no vag
I'm gonna be undatable ;_;
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Guess what? I'm depressed as shit today!
Gonna shitpost till I pass out.
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>>6442848
oh wow that is so cute i wish i had a bf like that omggg
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>>6443095
face surgeryhuh..
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>>6443093
Yesterday you told me you are legal, are you saying your lied to me?
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>>6443092
oh

that's a cute shirt
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>>6443100
i want face surgery ;-;
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>>6443094
You could still wear a strap-on though could you?
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>>6443087
>I know you're mad that I deleted you off Skype Edie, but can we talk about this instead of you shit posting as me? I'll be on skype.
>because she'd care
i'm insulted FOR edie, holy shit
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>>6443101
its kinda confusing uk law
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>>6443094
A lot of people are okay with a partner that just takes anal I think; I mean, that describes a lot of the people here. Sucks if you're not a pure bottom though.
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>>6443110
Okay I forgive you then I guess.
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>>6443108
true that

would u ppl in this thread date a ftm?
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>>6443106
>i want face surgery
How bad is it?
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>>6443115
Yes
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>>6443113
like legally i can have sex but someone in england posted dick pic and was labelled a sex offender
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Hrt here for 8 months
Beat most of you hons
Feels good
https://unsee.
cc/narogepi/
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>>6443115
Yeah probably
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>>6443116
I want those koreans to rebuild my face.
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>>6443115
i would but i'm very bad at all this caring about gender stuff. i can't promise that i wouldn't just see you as a girl.
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>>6443119
You look like an emo in a dress.
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>>6443116
that image is a bad edit
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do you guys think it's gay to chase a hon

i met one and she's really nice and dtf
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>>6443122
Looks like an ayy lmao
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>>6443122
You look fine

>>6443124
Hello to you too bitter hon
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Is 28 to late to not become a hon? I'm tall/athletic but my face has feminine features
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>>6443119
is that a wig or just weird straw hair?
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>>6443116
i don't like it.
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>>6443071
yeah, which is why i call her jocelyn

on the rare occasion she posts here she uses that name, because she understandably probably doesn't want 4chan to know her real name
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>>6443109
edie is a mod after all :^)

>>6443102
>>6443103
nayeve urts like. i dunno passing.
uncertainty, whatever, whatever4f
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ok im gonna go do stuff
ttyl /mtfg/ friends
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Hypothetically speaking, you wake up or suddenly become your girl version. Or even just transition so much (too well?) that you look definitely 'girly' totally unlike before (i.e. manly).

How would 'prove' that it's you? Will they be satisfied if you tell them that you transitioned and didn't notify the authorities? What if they decide you're not the same person as you claim to be on your passport photo (i.e. bone structure change)?

tl;dr How to avoid suspicion of identity fraud if you didn't let them know beforehand?
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>>6443126
If you're a girl yeah that's pretty gay
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>>6443125
You don't berive in Korean surgery?
Brasphemy.

>>6443122
Nikky you need a psychiatrist, not a surgeon.
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>>6443130
hrt is something you can do to just feel better with yourself.
no one can tell how you'll end up but the full effects take around 5 to 6 years so you'll be 34 for when things like body hair pattern and fat distribution settle in.
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So I just woke from a dream where I had a trans gf. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever experienced in a dream I feel like im in love with her. But I woke up and it wasn't real how do I find her
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>>6443134
>edie is a mod after all :^)
??
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>>6443130
depends

>>6443129
enjoy your ife and make the mst of it =b
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>>6443079
>A ldr doesn't make you a fake, it makes the other person a fake interpretation of whoever is on the other side.

but that's in sharp contrast with what you've been saying here
>>6442795
>That's why I see changing for someone else a sincere action, but intentionally going to a space where you know you'll have a more "safe" or "easy" relationship makes you a big fake in terms of what you show the other.

>as I said, I don't have anything to defend it. I know there are studies, that both defend my point and deny it, it's not the point.

well that was a point you made and while i appreciate and respect your anecdotes, it doesn't carry intended weight with personal opinions.

>the one denying it is in the same position if they want their version to be seen as true.

there was no version of my theory. i was asking you to support your opinion with verifiable sources.

>In 1000 years? that's not how evolution works
evolution has no restricted schedule. any scientist would tell you the same.

>I have certain certanties because of how and were I grew up that wouldn't be there if I were from Australia or France. In a smaller level the things that happen in your life keep changing you. It might not be easy to notice moment to moment, but no one is the same person they were 10 years before.

again, people do experience development throughout their lives. but what does that have to do with it?
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>>6443115
In theory yes, although it seems most ftms tend to get more hairy and muscular than is to my taste. A femboy ftm or twink ftm would be fine though.
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>>6443129
Hello to you too.
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>>6443134
i feel ya

i'm curious as to what you look like tho

i know nothing about you, you're such an enigma :?
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>>6443140
How do they make people believe it is the same person?
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Good news everyone!

I have a big Chipotle burrito bowl

Now I won't vomit all over the place from hunger and nausea! 8D

and hopefully I can gain some weight if I eat this and pizza and a pitcher of Soylent
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>>6443153
Whatever they are doing seems to be working.
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>>6443140
Those pictures you are showing are double jaw surgeries (very popular in Korea recently) not FFS. Just wanted to point that out.

My psychiatrist told me I'm fine (mentally). I still want to look cis which is pretty normal thing to want.
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>>6443146
>A femboy ftm or twink ftm

lmao what arer you looking or a tom boy? XD

>>6443149
because my life makes no sense and never had control. dunno where to go in the world. just an arty guy that looks weird. I should get contacts

>tw once got mistaken for neihgbors XD gf, couldnt tell.

it really does fucking depend who the fuck looks at me becase either I pass or dont fucking uncertainty

>>6443143
some joke and rumor
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>>6443130
Maybe, maybe not; chances are that you're not going to stop wanting to transition though, so you might as well start at 28 instead of 29 or later.
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>>6443159
ok
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>>6443155
>pitcher of Soylent
Oh quid I had no idea you were that messed up.
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>>6443157
nikky was that picture of me you did meant to be me with ffs or me with longer time on hrt and a little more meat on my bones? i couldn't see anything shaved down but i can't believe i could actually look that good with just hrt and weight gain so i'm not sure

if ffs what procedures?
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>>6443159
saaame. i have no idea what to do desu

yes get contacts

post a pic maybe :?
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>>6443159
I don't know if it's right to call an ftm a tomboy but basically yeah; that's how I like people in general, male or female.
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>>6443168
Pretty sure she mentioned it was not ffs but hrt
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Can you stealth transition? What if they suddenly say 'hey, you're not that on your passport'?
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>>6443162
This. I wanted to transition since 23 and I keep telling myself it will go away someday but it won't
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>>6443168
I actually modify your chin a little bit (just correnrs) and flatten area between your eyes (type 3 forehead surgery).

But pleas stay at high dosage HRT for at least 2 years before FFS.
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>>6443140
cmon this is photoshop
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>>6443172
>I don't know if it's right to call an ftm a tomboy

well from what I've see4en all the non binary ftms are jus ttom boys XD and I dont think wanna mytilates themesleves XDDDD

>>6443170
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>>6443145
I might have not been too clear. It makes you a fake person from the perspective of the other person, as in not having any grounds to actually get to know you beyond your fractured presentation. I don't have any ill feelings for people to get into one, I don't think less of them or anything. It's the way the interacion works that I don't like.

>>6443145
>it doesn't carry intended weight with personal opinions.
but I never wanted to present this as more than my opinions. overly justyfied but still opinions.
I mean, there are studies done with twins that grew in different homes and some present that they end up more similar to each other than to their respective families. Other studies put more weight in nurture over nature.
If I were to put effort into testing and comparing my ideas I would want to end up with a paper to publish, not a nice 4chan conversation erased the next day.

>but what does that have to do with it?
Mh... at some point the conversation touched on the idea that you have a core that doesn't change and that people breaking up should had seen it comming from the start, when I think that they could have had a perfect relationship or great relationship at some point that doesn't work for who they are after a while. I don't see breaking up as a sign of a poor start or too many lies, just moving on with life.
It may have been about dividing the results of long distance vs real life, I'm not sure at this point.
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4mg or 6mg estrogen ?
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>>6443166
how so? soylent is awesome, it's just not for everyone

this way:

i'm sure to get at least the minimum of my micro and macronutrients for the day

i'm not going to end up eating 500 calories for the whole day because i wasn't paying attention
healthier for you than pretty much anything else i'd be eating

incredibly convenient to make and serve, especially when i'm almost passed out after dry heaving

all in all it's awesome, I've been following the project since it was only a couple weeks old and just Rob's experimenting on his blog with barely anyone interested, but I was hooked from the start and was one of the first purchasers because I've had that idea for a long time and never knew how to put it into action. it's pretty much one of my favorite things

but of course, if you have more energy throughout the day, and don't have crippling nausea, and are too attached to regular food etc etc, then i can see how you might not be interested, but overall it's the shit
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>>6443168
btw. Since you still thinking about it. Did you like it what I did for you?
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>>6443156
Is that thing from the left a man or an ugly woman?
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