▶What is a fem?
A young, androgynous man with soft features.
▶Are fems trans?
Some turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties.
▶Should I go on HRT?
If you can deal with the tits and infertility, you'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man.
▶Femgen Pastebin v1: http://pastebin.com/uUXYGwTH
Post your Skype, and someone from the group will add you! (Probably. Not.)
Previous thread: >>6415398
>>6438603
>Binary Edition
thank you
tumblr needs to fuck off
Shake that ass for a real nigga!
>>6438603
Do femboys have hangouts?
I've been told that if you want to meet people and make friends, you need to be social. I get the feeling that femboys aren't the kind of people to inhabit gay bars or anything similar.
>>6438640
raves, cons, our rooms, and sephora
>>6438669
Cons?
They have trap cons? Conventions for cuteboys?
To the janitor who has probably let out an audible sigh at realizing that another general has been made:
We didn't make nbgen. The trans within femgen did. Please just let us go our own ways.
>>6438679
that's basically what anime conventions are
pls join the real skype group not the phony knock-off one
https://join.skype.com/bpJRR3MWthun
>>6439015
top tier bants m8
if anyone actually wants to join the skype group at this point, post your skype and someone will add you. not competing with your alt-join links.
>>6439051
>wanting to join a group just so you can get shit on
nice joke
no ones going to join the old group and actually stay in it
God dammit janitor this thread will implode
**REMINDER**
TO BE A FEMBOY YOU MUST HAVE:
• Light colored, soft and clear skin
• Long, healthy flowing hair
• No body hair anywhere at all, no exceptions
• Ability to take care of yourself, dependency is for women
• A respectable fashion sense (no hot topic shit)
• Purity, sluts are not real femboys
>>6439110
How to into healthy hair?
>>6439110
>implying femboys older than 16 exist
>>6439106
>meme thread deleted
on the other hand, shit, they are all going to come back here again
>>6439124
Use a fucktonne of conditioner, take fin.
>>6439110
well this is fucking gay
>>6439110
femboy population according to anons rules 0
>Purity sluts are not real femboys
LOL femboys are a branch of twinks who are notable sluts
>>6440406
>projecting
take a hike, whore
>>6439110
Mmmm no. Femboys are sluts
Is this where I post? Bi guy who considered possibly being trans but realised I love being a guy, I just want to be like a bishie/really pretty guy
>tfw the guy you're seeing turns out to be a weird tranny chaser fetishist
>tfw you play along anyway because he's hot
>wore panties for him, started growing out my hair after he suggested it
>mfw he calls me his girlfriend
>mfw i dont even give a fuck
>>6440449
femboys are pure maidens
Anybody have experience with informed consent clinics? I'd like to look into a low-dose HRT regimen but most search results say that general psychiatrists will only give you a prescription if you want to go full tranny.
>>6441111
I originally got on HRT as a tranny, but I moved to a new city in the past year and started using an informed consent clinic. They had someone check me out and make sure I seem like I'm mentally well enough to understand the risks and all that shit, but it wasn't like they badgered me with a bunch of questions about liking pink and wanting a vagina. They asked me about myself, my hobbies, my work, what pronouns I go by, what I see myself as. No judgement though. YMMV but I can vouch for my clinic being pretty cool at least.
hey girls
why the f can't I find the non-binary general?
do you guys ever get harrassed or bullied in your day to day lives? anyone ever flirt with you?
>>6441814
where is the demigenderqueer fictionkin genral
>>6439110
This seems too simple for chan standards...
>>6439110
Purity's no fun tho ;P
What a waste of me that would be
Reminder that hormones will shrink your dick gradually and you wont notice until one day you feel it flop and it's 100% soft and you realise it's only like two inches soft
I only just realised...
>Hormones
baka, you make the most of your pretty boy looks until you go twink mode and then put on some muscle mass in your mid-late 20s and go otter
preserving that look isn't worth the damage since beyond 18 you're barely fem anyway
go athletic and slut it up
>>6441096
>Scrub who has never fucked a femboy detected
>>6442409
Couldn't you just use a penis pump everyday or something to keep it used to being hard?
>>6442597
you are not a femboy
why do you keep spamming this thread my man?
>>6442409
Hormones shrunk my dick by one inch. I felt rather unique being a femboy with a 7 inch dick but it doesn't bother me since I am a bottom anyway.
>>6438603
Can a femboi be straight?
I came here to masturbate to femboys. Where are the pictures?
>>6442812
here nerd *unzips benis*
>>6442812
Somebody call red
>>6442803
Yeah, but it won't last. At some point all "straight" femboys will realize that the only women that want them are fujos. As his hormonally castrated boyclit mashes limply into her vaginal maw he will experience the burning shame of what it means to no longer be a real man. At which point he will feel compelled to seek companionship in the arms of a real male, who can fill his boipucci. Only then will he understand his true place and feel completely at peace with himself.
>>6442803
Yes, most femboys are straight, despite what the faggot spammers itt might have you believe
>>6443459
this is just like my yaois
>>6443536
>faggot "spammers"
>on /lgbt/
kek
>>6442803
Im straight
>>6442812
Ok
>>6443459
I mean, I took hrt for a bit, it ruined my ability to top, and like I want someone to take my virginity in that way so badly now
I wanna rape a straight/bi-curious femboy until he turns into a moaning slut begging me to fuck him tb.h
You dont get to be a femboy and straight, thats teasing
>>6444043
>Nor cal
Up to you, then.
>retarded trannies thirsty for attention invading femgen again
there is no end to this
>>6444130
I have never lived as a woman
I love as a dude
I dress as a dude
I wore makeup once and it was light and terrible
I like my dick
I go by he
>>6444270
jaye please
this dumb ass meme stops right now
>>6444334
Ye sorry about using my fake tranny name
I'm not on hrt tho, just an AA
>>6443536
Last poll put more than half as bi and nearly all remaining are gay.
>>6444270
I think you're cool desu. You've always been strong, not that depersonalized brainwashed bimbo a lot of women and trans women are. And you've always lived as you see fit and acted like you want.
It's act pretty reassuring to see someone a bit older than us doing that with style.
>>6444358
You've got cowtits. Aa don't give you Cowtits.
i wanna look like a qt tomboy
so, a boy trying to look like a girl trying to look like a boy
>>6444358
what an attention starved moron you are
>>6444469
Me too, man. Me too
>>6444114
Hello Redo
>>6444499
im probably gonna be getting my mop of a hair cut this weekend, i want a style that looks androgynous but idk what exactly to do. any ideas?
Would you allow short haired trannies into femboi spaces?
>>6444542
I honestly wish I knew. I've been trying to figure out what to do with my own hair and have come up short as well. I want an androgynous style as well but have no idea where to look for those. Sorry I can't help.
>tfw lewding with red on skype
W-e-w
>>6444542
Grow out the front more; if you're not going to grow the back long, the greater the difference in length between the front and back will look more andro.
>>6444580
shid i shouldve noted that the pic isnt of me lmao, just a style i like. i agree with you though
>>6444571
Was away for a while.
How long were you on HRT and how heavy was your dose? Any side effects after you stopped taking them?
>>6444372
>Last poll put more than half as bi and nearly all remaining are gay.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10312941/r
95% of /femgen/ find femboys attractive
85% of /femgen/ say they find mtf's attractive
68% of /femgen/ likes cis girls
61% of /femgen/ likes cis guys(number was lower than i thought)
only 26% of /femgen/ say they can find pig disgusting ftm's attractive.
>>6444547
No, their women.
>>6444750
Whose women
>>6442812
nobody here is actually an attractive femboy.
>>6444711
3 years, 4mg a day, I feel fine, less emotional, happier, and more driven, but who knows if that's the t, oh and I get hard easier if that's important to you
>>6444547
Only if they're not uptight about me calling them male or using male pronouns.
Also qt picture, should definitely just be a femboy.
>>6444832
fuck off bro, stop trolling
>>6444810
>I have absurdly high standards of what male human beings should look like compared to 2d mongolian cave drawings of little girls
Hi, /mtfg/!
>>6444862
chaturbate
rapidfire91
>>6444880
Femboys don't exiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiist
>>6444043
Can you answer this?
>How long were you on HRT? What dose?
I need it for science.
>>6444547
Addy qt :3
>>6444939
Thx familia
>go to doctor
>tell him i'm losing hair, expect him to give me finasteride
>he shills anti-depressants and tells me to fuck off
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK
>>6445224
A normal doctor or a dermatologist?
>>6445049
heres a few more tomboy dickgirls
cameronobscura
kayla_with_a_cock
chaturbate of course :^)
>>6445224
Male doctors are shit. They shuffle patients in and out as fast as possible to rake in more shekels. Lady doctors will at least listen and let you explain the situation. Every fucking male doctor I've had cuts me off, doesn't listen, and never lets me finish a point.
>>6445240
just a basic faggot ass doctor, I called to get a referal for a dermatologist immediately after I left
>>6445254
Yeah that's why. Normal doctors don't even know about finasteride, probably don't even know there's a cure for baldness at all.
>>6445268
my normal doctor gave me fin the first time i went in for baldness. he even let me split 5mg pills to save mad money
>>6445276
He most likely went to the derm himself and he's using finasteride as well.
>>6445276
lucky you, you piece of shit
>>6445245
Seems a bit generalizing but it matches up pretty well with my experience. A lot of male doctors treat me like a kid, refuse to listen to what I'm saying, etc.
One cardiologist I saw for a was visibly uncomfortable with me being a feminine dude. Every time I saw him he would tell me I should start lifting weights. I told him I prefer to do low impact cardio, hiking, biking etc but he was really insistent about me lifting weights. It was strange and made me really uncomfortable.
I get this in a lot of situations though. Lime I know that I look quite a bit younger than I really am, but its annoying as shit to be talked down to all the time. Its been sort of an ongoing problem since I was a kid, but it has made me more sympathetic to women complaining about getting the same shit.
>>6445309
i'm gonna see a dermatologist senpai
New fags pop a zit post it or it didn't happen
finasteride is killing me inside, my stomach is begging to me to stop taking it, but muh hair
>>6445349
seriously? will a kiss make your tummy feel better?
>>6445334
just got a compliment today
>wow your skin is so smooth and clear, what do you do??
>>6445362
It would make me feel better for sure but won't stop my chronic nausea and pains
but feel free to kiss me sure
>>6444877
Was pretty hot as a boy desu, would have been my type Tbhfam
>>6444877
I don't see the problem. He's pretty cute. I'm not into really manly men either so that sort of inbetween is perfect for me.
>>6444571
Post yaoi
>>6445508
ok
>>6445508
>>6445374
i wanna kiss your tummy
Umibe no Etranger is adorable
Both it, and its follow up manga, Harukaze no Entranger are great
One of the more realistic yaoi manga I've read
>>6445575
Art is nice looking. If there's a happy ending, I'll read it. I've been reading too much depressing yuri lately, so a change would be good.
>>6445589
Harukaze no Etranger is still ongoing, so it hasn't really ended yet. I wouldn't call it depressing, but some of the background story isn't exactly happy.
Light haired character is a gay novelist whose dad hates him. He ends up falling for a "straight" high schooler, who almost immediately leaves his life because he has to return to the mainland. They don't see each other for years, and when he does finally show up again (and is of legal age) he's not sure how to feel about it.
Things get better, but like I said, there is a kind of narrative there that reflects the reality of a lot of gay men irl. I guess the best way to put it is that some of it is bittersweet, but they haven't split up thusfar or anything like that. There are some sex scenes as well, but they're pretty tame and don't dominate the story.
i've always wondered, of the other femboys you've all known what's the largest boyboobs you've ever seen them get? I knew someone online who had like massive GG tier udders (was a fatty) but i'm not entirely sue 'he' wasn't just some weird woman trying to get attention pretending to be a femmy guy.
>>6440853
This, bi but I want to be a twink with a guy, like no body hair, short shorts, slutty underwear, tight shorts, etc.
who /bicalutamide/ here?
>>6444811
why do you have different symptoms than anyone else? everyone says its an awful transition and it destroys everyone around you, is this just not true?
>>6446182
>i've always wondered, of the other femboys you've all known what's the largest boyboobs
very rare, usually its cis female attention whores or trannies with short hair.
I'm 21, a bit overweight, not very hairy
Is it too late to become a cute boy? I was looking for motivation to lose weight
>>6448623
Weight lose is easy but it takes a long time
2lb/week is healthy weight loss
Weight loss is 70% diet 30% exercise
>>6448623
I don't think so. I've known cuteboys who've started at later ages and got good results.
Sooner is always better though.
>>6448669
you cannot be cute and old anon
>>6449458
I'm not saying "40s and old", but you don't need to be a teenager necessarily.
>>6444547
PEOPLE POSTING MUH PICS
WAT DIS
>>6450020
>jewish femboy
oy VEY, sue them right this instant *gives u a card of the law firm Noseberg, Goychick & Schlongstein*
>>6450050
am not jewish lmao
i just have an ugly roman nose
>>6450055
kek, i have one too
i look like shit from the profile thanks to it
>>6450050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8jZz_QawBg
>>6450055
Same familia. Italian genes fucked me up. At least I didn't get the body hair.
Thoughts on femboys wearing panties, stockings, etc.?
>>6450121
holy shit that's like me
fem and cute from the front but totally uggo from the profile
>>6450161
delicious
>>6450161
That skin is totally retouched.
>>6451747
Btw, would still pound his slutty little boy hole.
How do I femboy?
i just wanna be cute
>>6451958
100mg spiro
4mg estradiol
>>6452000
>Spiro
Kekarooni
>>6450020
Post dick, butt and boobs.
>>6451933
youake it sound like he's Lestat
>tfw on last pill and a fresh pack of bica comes in the mail
Is this where I post if I wish I was a bishie anime character? I don't want to get on skittles but I definitely want to be cuter.
>>6452861
>I don't want to get on skittles
>I definitely want to be cuter.
pick one
>>6452896
well I don't want tits and I like my dick in working condition.
what drugs do you get for hrt?
Just a friendly reminder, there's only 2 genders, and if you like being feminine you're a tranny in denial
>>6452922
no, I'm just a cute boy
>>6452996
No you're a fucking abomination. Why do some gay guys even go for you fucking trannies? If you're gay you're supposed to like men not trannies.
>>6453011
>implying I'm a faggot
Where to find cute pics of femboys?
>>6452896
>>6452861
Legit?
>>6453054
in the mirror
>>6453083
not at all
>>6452450
But that's not SFW, anon!
>>6453214
Your butt wont be SFW if you dont post selfies.
>>6453243
![0v7FBDY[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/TcBJlZI.png "0v7FBDY[1].png")
Who here not afraid to show off their boiboobs?
>>6451933
37 actually, but still impressive given they only started HRT in early-to-mid-30s
>Tfw cis androgynous girl
>Tfw no femboy bf
are all of you guys gay?
>>6453823
Just over half are bi, even if they lean gay. Think they like androgynous females though.
>>6453823
I don't know why so many are gay/bi. The way it is for me and the way I see it is that if you like femininity, you should only like girls.
>>6453863
Because I'm attracted to masculinity too, even if I'm not quite the same thing as normal men.
And it's more like I'm into androgyny than femenity. And I really like strong personalities, so I'd be just as happy with a man I can do stuff with as I would with someone androgynous, and honestly, there are more men, so that's the expected.
>>6453901
>"And I really like strong personalities,"
>femboy
404 not found
>hair is always tangled
>go to get ends cut today for first time in a year
>hair is now smooth and doesn't tangle at all
>>6453839
>>6453863
I want to switch from boymode to girlmode with my femboy bf and pull him into the respective public bathroom to lewd whenever i want
>>6453966
Everyone should know the best mode is looking like a girl in guy's clothes, tho.
>>6453913
By "strong personalities" i'm sure they mean someone with a sense of self and not a copypaste buttslut but i'm probably not on the same page
>>6453957
Same
Got it trimmed and layered yesterday after going two years without. Hair only reaches to shoulders though, curly hair takes forever to get any length.
Any femboys in va?
>>6454576
yes, what do you look like
no one is ever from here so im surprised
>>6454609
Kik me
High_test
I'm tall and fit
>>6453823
Why wont you just find a disgusting ftm and scissor with her?
most femboys are bottom sluts because they want manly men to fuck them.
>>6453823
im willing to sell you a femboy bf for an androg cis gf
do femboys wear women's underwear?
>>6454719
>they want manly men to fuck them
Sometimes, but I'm mostly into other twinks tbqh. I would probably fuck a ftm too if he was twink-ish, but good luck finding one that doesn't look like a hairy, obese lesbians with a neckbeard. I don't fuck ciswomen though.
>>6454719
I dunno, dude. It seems like a larger than expected portion of us are into women or both. It's pretty rare I find a guy attractive. He has to be pretty damn fem.
How do I know when I'm skinny enough if I always feel like I could be skinnier?
>>6455880
When people tell you that you look sick. Then you gain 10lbs and hover
>>6455880
you need to keep some weight, otherwise your boiboobs and hips will be starved
>tfw no fit guy to enslave my butt with his cock
>>6455997
>Want to lose muscle on my shoulders
>Don't want to stunt chest growth
Can't win them all
>>6455997
I know. It blows. I get the slightest tummy and feel terrible.
>>6455997
>tfw too afraid of pic related to gain weight
>>6454719
Don't go out of your way to be an ass
>>6456124
you'll only get that if your hips are ridiculously narrow/ribcage too wide
>>6453096
I wish :(
>>6456507
I'm a dude you know
>>6456802
none
it's a dumb shitpost
butts
>>6456891
Good butt in bad clothing.
About what BMI does your body have to be for a flat stomach?
>>6456916
that is dependent on body fat percentage, not bmi
>>6456913
how about NO clothing?
>>6456922
Alright well how do I know if I should lose a couple pounds or if it's just me being dysmorphic or an anorexic. Phone camera doesn't work, so I can't just post pics.
>>6456969
https://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/body-fat-percentage-calculator
>>6439110
>Light colored
Time to kill myself
>>6456981
Interesting. Funny how changing the weight option does nothing to affect the result you get. It was also funny how there's ~5% difference between that one and the army version on the same site (went from ~10 to 15%). Anyway, thanks anon.
>>6457015
there's a qt mexican femboy who posts here
>>6457015
Darker skin can also be really attractive, don't mind that bullet point
https://discord.gg/B2ACR
Can we talk about cute femboy fashion? What kind of T-shirts and stuff do you guys wear?
>>6458747
horrible things like keep it 100 emoji shirts and pajamas
>>6458270
>pleats aren't even ironed
fetishist/10
>>6456047
you'll lose muscle regardless of weight, especially during the 12-24 month period
>>6459166
back to trannygen with you fallah
>>6458747
Anyone else like corneliani?
>>6456923
moar?
>>6459166
>I'm a tranny and my self worth as a human being hinges on whether or not I can successfully lie to people about being sexually fucked up.
Anyone think a /femgen/ steam slut thread is in needed? Trade nudes or skype shows for steam sales to celebrate the summer sale.
Not that I'm a slut or anything... but it could be fun.
>>6448667
>Weight loss is 70% diet 30% exercise
lolwut
it's the other way around
gib tinychat link
>>6438603
>ivan
another Russian tranny?
>>6461739
Any bay area cuties in this thread?
I want to be more fem any tip, that not end in killing myself
>>6462017
I'm coming to the bay area p soon!
>>6462079
How soon is soon?
>>6462093
July
>>6462119
do you have skype?
>>6462017
I live in the bay area wassup?
>>6462123
derp223 is my skype!
>>6439110
my boyfriend is 22.
>Light colored, soft and clear skin
check
>Long, healthy flowing hair
platinum blonde pixie cut
>No body hair anywhere at all, no exceptions
i made him get a cute little strip of pubic hair
>Ability to take care of yourself, dependency is for women
total wreck most of his life
>A respectable fashion sense (no hot topic shit)
he's very fashion-savvy, he picks all my outfits pretty much.
>Purity, sluts are not real femboys
he used to be pure until i got him into every kink i like.
What would you do if you found out a femboy you were interested in was hiding these? ;.;
>>6463263
suck em. rub my wiener between em.
>>6463263
Get angry that his are bigger than mine
>>6463263
kinda weird
>>6463440
I'm sorry :/ are you a gormone taker or a cis grille?
/femgen/ I recently put a toothbrush in my asshole and it felt great
did I just lose my appeal to femboys
i dont want to be one of you, i want to fuck you
and maybe you can put your shriveled cock into my pristine thick and toned ass
maybe
>>6459766
>I have a 29 in waist
>10.42%
Wot
>>6463457
my femboyfriend fucks me almost as much as i fuck them. there's nothing wrong with ass fun.
>>6463473
>them
him. wtf.
>>6463473
I just dont want him to get the wrong idea
im not a fag y'know
can you cum hands free from it?
>>6463502
>can you cum hands free from it?
no. he's 4 and a half inches on a good day, and has the stamina of a 14 year old, but he's very horny. he'll fuck me, cum, stay in me while we kiss, get hard and fuck again. i make him cum hands free most of the time.
How did you all get your foot in the door in regards to the gem community?
I've desired an encounter, sexual or not, although it's hard to find fems in my area that aren't just regular men who dress differently for Friday night at the club
>>6463453
gormone taker
>>6463631
How long you been on them? What do you take?
Injections are the main culprit for this and it's taken quite a while to get to this point.
>>6463645
roughly 8 months
last 4 on 25mg bica
last 1 on 4mg valerate
before then 200 spiro and 2 valerate
1.25 fin for over a year now
>>6463645
Where do you get your needles from? Syringes and the vials sure, but needles are tough to find for me.
>>6463740
Actually I buy them as a combo and they seem pretty easy to find. Google "BD syringe needle combo 1" 23g" and you ought to get a good number of vendors popping up. Depending on your location it might not be legal to buy without prescription. Here it is legal.
Pic related, my most recent syringe order. 200 weeks worth of syringes right there.
>>6463735
Ever gotten your levels checked? Also tits do take time, mine took years to grow to this point. You may want to consider trying out injections and progesterone some point down the line.
>>6463818
I really apologize for asking for spoonfeeding, but do you have your link on hand you bought those from? I've only managed to find shady sites when I looked, and I don't know who to trust based on stuff like reseller ratings.
>>6463842
I got these from allegro medical.com but you may want to go with Atlantic medical. Allegro took too long to ship it out, and also charged me for one day shipping (all they will allow up to Alaska) but them did 5-7 day anyway, which cost them less than I paid them for shipping. Fuck them, Atlantic should take good care of you. I have ordered from them in the past.
Also I suggest BD brand syringes because they just feel nicely built and quality, and the needles have a very good sharpness.
>>6463867
Here, direct link.
http://www.atlanticmedsupply.com/needles-syringes/bd-3cc-syringe-w/needle-23g-x-1/
>>6463830
nah, didn't. i'm not legit and refuse to go back on spiro. I keep hearing people say changes after like 6-12 months are just hon myths. not the case?
>>6463915
Yeah it's newbie myths that 6-12 months is when the bulk of changes happen. Breast growth and fat redistribution can take a lot longer, and most of the people here are under the 1 year mark. Also many of them are skinny fucks who don't get good femgainz. If you've got good genetic and physical potential it will take years to fully finish, especially if you don't have things dialed in properly. Until they are dialed in right the changes won't come to fruition. I actually have switched between pills and injections several times, and each time I have gotten a little boost in tit growth. Eventually it becomes less about breast volume increasing and more about the shape changing, and unless you're stuck at tanner 1-3 breast development, like many people here, the shape often does take years to become more proper. Cis girls don't grow their tits in 6-12 months - so why would a tranny be faster?
Some people are just unlucky though and don't get anything much that they notice after 1 year or so. I imagine some are also confusing passing for changes being done.
>>6463907
No problem. Stay safe, make sure you know how to do injections properly although I'm sure I don't need to even say that. Good luck in your quest.
what happened to /mtfg/ ? It's gone, did they have a big fight or somethin?
>>6464072
they move so fast they dont bother to make new threads after the bump limit
current thread is on page 4 with 660 replies
>>6442409
>what are serms?
>>6442409
Mine is under 1 inch soft, but over 5 inches hard.
Jerk it erry day faggot.
T. on these meds longer than you
do any femboys here play fightin' games? I went to CEO in Orlando just earlier and it was fun and I saw quite alot of effeminate males and some transgirls.
>>6464153
i play smash
inb4
>fighting game
havent really been to many tourneys but its a very accepting community from what ive seen, both the fgc and smash community
>>6442409
why wouldn't you want a qt, tiny femdick?
>>6463998
>Cis girls don't grow their tits in 6-12 months - so why would a tranny be faster?
this always seemed very intuitive to me. why would trannies develop within a year when grils take several for puberty? maybe there would be something to do with level of hormones, but i've never seen any compelling evidence for something like that
