Are all gay guys really extreme liberal Democrats?
I'm 19 and I wanted to date this asian twink but once any semi political or cultural discussion came up and he found out that I'm very conservative... he became an asshole and now thinks I'm a redneck racist or something.
Maybe I'll never try to get a bf.
>>6425162
>asian
There's your mistake, OP.
I'm a socialist tranny. Liberals gross me out, they don't pay the right back in kind.
>>6425193
>socialist
>not liberal
wat?
>>6425162
Conservative in what respect?
>>6425162
>Are all gay guys really extreme liberal Democrats?
No. Enough people here to disprove your claim.
Unless carpet bombing the middle east, being extremely pro west and being generally xenophobic and dismissive of other people's cultures is a liberal thing to do.
>>6425193
State ownership of the means of production will never work
Social democracy is a superior system
>>6425295
>pro West
>bad thing
Yeah because Muzzies are so proyou
>>6425162
No. But most gay guys don't give a shit about politics and will only care about the superficial details about US political parties.
Since we're conditioned to assume that anyone that's pro-USA, pro-guns, or just plain conservative is an ignorant racist redneck that will kill any gay guy they come across that's what most apolitical gay guys assume.
I'm a gay, Christian, conservative, white guy. I know your pain, OP and I'm sure you'll find a good bf someday.
>>6425246
fiscally and culturally I guess.
>>6425319
>picture unrelated
Frankly not being pro west when you're lgbt is just retarded since it's essentially saying that backwards savage "cultures" that'd kill you without a thought are somehow equal to a culture that lets you live your life in freedom.
>>6425383
>gay, Christian, conservative, white guy
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>>6425162
I have the most mixed political views I've heard of.
I'm pro-guns. And gay marriage. But I hate muslims. And also retards should be euthanised. But people should be free to choose what type they want. Unless it's for their children, people don't know what's best for their children.
So, to answer your question, no, we're not.
>>6425383
>I'm a gay, Christian, conservative, white guy.
I'll just pass up this opportunity to say something and keep my mouth shut in order not to cause another shitstorm.
>>6425383
That wasnt my experience. I'm a southern white christian too. This guy I liked, really liked me, but he had really political views about almost everything. I guess I just had a bad experience.
>>6425470
Don't make me regret it.
>>6425456
It's really sad when you're with who seems to be the perfect guy but then politics get in the way.
By the way, I'm from the Northeast.
>>6425162
Well I have pretty mixed political views like pro-gun and such and I've never had any issues with other gays. Maybe if they're straight off of tumblr they might, but I've never had too much of a problem and I occasionally hangout with some pretty effeminate gays. If anything conservative views tend to turn gays on since they're obsessed with masculine straight guys
It really depends on the person. If they aren't even willing to let you explain your views they aren't worth the time. Back in the day my bf was an uber-liberal, he used to get really worked up whenever I went on my political rants lel. Over time he started to agree more and more with me though, as long as you aren't a dick about it when you're explaining your views there shouldn't be any issues.
Obviously if you go on tirades about the jews and white genocide right off the bat there'll be issues. It's best to just avoid politics entirely when it comes to relationships anyway.
>>6425497
Or what? You'll tell him you disagree on the Internet?
Heaven forbid.
>>6425162
i'm a gay jew and i'm a radical SJW tumblrina
i'm pretty much everything pol hates
pic unrelated
>>6425388
So how do you reconcile being gay with being culturally conservative? Cultural conservatives emphasize marriage (between a man and a woman, obviously) and family. They value religion as well, and you'd be hard-pressed to find any religion supportive of homosexuality.
>>6428232
Easily desu
I hate gay culture
I respect the West
I believe most people need religion to stay sane and if they don't have it they'll latch on to something else and treat it like a religion
I don't think gays really understand marriage outside of a very superficial definition based on love (to be fair most people have a similar superficial definition)
>>6425162
>Are all gay guys really extreme liberal Democrats?
Yes because the majority of Republican values are antigay, and the majority of Republican voters and politicians are antigay.
The only reasons to be a gay Republican is because you're self-loathing or because you're an ignorant contrarian asshat who knows nothing about the party you're supporting.
>>6428270
>I don't think gays really understand marriage outside of a very superficial definition based on love (to be fair most people have a similar superficial definition)
Maybe that's because marriage doesn't have a definition outside of the legal institution and the variety of religious takes on it. If you're not part of a religion then marriage is literally just a legal arrangement and nothing else.
>>6428319
>Thinks being conservative means being Republican
Oh sweetie
>>6428338
>Marriage is literally just a legal arrangement
Yeah but for what purpose?
This is what people always have trouble defining
The purpose of marriage
Why would the government want an active role in marriage? For what purpose?
>>6428343
Well technically Democrats are conservative too from a global perspective
>>6428348
>Yeah but for what purpose?
Absolutely none at all. There is no point to the concept of marriage except for the religious ones and the legal benefits.
That's why no one can define it, because there isn't a definition.
>>6428270
Fair enough, I guess. I'm not a huge fan of "gay culture" and I emphatically support the vast majority of western ideals. I agree with you on religion and I support people's freedom to practice their religion as long as it doesn't impose it's will on others. I don't really care about marriage - although I am interested in what your understanding of marriage is, being that you don't believe gays understand it.
All this considered I still would never consider myself socially conservative.
>>6428358
Oh sweetie
>>6428366
>Absolutely none at all
Then how has it existed for so long
It doesn't have many religious connotations either since it crosses so many religions
>>6428374
Marriage is quite simply put about two main things
One is of course commitment
This one is obvious to just about everyone and fairly self-explanatory
The second one family building
The core of marriage has been about the family
Marriage was first created to combine two warring families into one and produce children that would have a say in both
Its a fairly recent change that marriage became significantly less political but the core is still about the family
The most love that should be involved in marriage is love for the child
Outside of that love is not a requirement for a successful marriage
If you wanted a successful marriage you'd find someone who wanted a family and who covered skills that you lacked and that you didn't hate
I firmly believe the changing of marriage from this family building commitment based definition to one of love is why marriage is failing so hard in the West
If marriage is about love how can you possibly stay married if you're not in love with your spouse?
This question is at the core of many dramas you see on channels such as lifetime that propagandize this definition
I disagree with many people because I don't believe a successful marriage is about love (between a man and a woman or between two guys)
It's too easy to fall out of love
>>6428358
>le you should be left wing because Yurope does it
kys
>>6428440
Yes because being the only place staunchly refusing to adapt and accept change worked out so well for Africa
>>6428459
We're still better off economically and socially than 95% of the world so the Africa comparison doesn't really work
>>6428459
But western European countries are the ones that are suppressing their up and coming right wing parties. They're deathly afraid of change
>>6425304
It's a tranny don't expect too much from it
>>6425162
These buzzwords and political alignments becoming common ways people describe and identify themselves is worse than gender identities.
>>6428472
>We're still better off economically and socially than 95%
But that's straight up untrue. There are third world countries with better economies than the US.
The United States is literally a third world country.
>>6428507
Name a single third world country with a greater GDP than the US. I'll wait.
>>6428507
>The United States is literally a third world country.
It LITERALLY is not.
Third world countries were those that were unaligned with either super power during the cold war.
>>6428571
Like all of them
>>6428591
Or, you know, about the order Western European civilization found them. Old/First is Europe, second is Africa, third is the Americas.
>>6425162
I tend to be very libertarian in my views which liberals read as closeted conservative.
I'm Gay, Pro gun, Athiest but believe people should be free to have whatever religion they want, I really don't believe in marriage let alone state involvement in it, I want lower taxes, a reduction in military. stop foreign wars except for punitive action, fuck the PC culture that tries to fire someone over making people feel bad, and shut the fuck up about how meat, gluten, MSG, eggs, coffee, alcohol is bad for you and let people eat a rare dolphin burger if they want.
In short I'm an asshole.
>>6425162
I'm gay and I'm definitely conservative leaning. So I guess that answers your question.
>>6428270
>I hate gay culture
>I believe most people need religion to stay sane and if they don't have it they'll latch on to something else and treat it like a religion
You don't see the hypocrisy here? You really need to stop thinking in blacks and whites and start thinking in shades.
>>6430688
I am the same as this guy. To add to that; I can't stand gay culture as it is narcissistic, vain, perpetuates stereotypes, and enforces segregation that makes it harder for normal people to integrate.
Atheist, Brexit-voting, gun-loving biscum reporting in.
They're out there OP, don't give up.
>Liberal
Get rekt m8 I'm a socialist.
>>6430736
He's not entirely wrong. People often need something to believe in when times get hard. Good thing studies have shown that rationalism and empiricism qualify as that "something". In fact, the people with the greatest amount of anxiety when facing death were those who were only slightly religious or those who were "U don't believe in god but I think I believe in something"-agnostics. The calmest of them all were the deeply religious (duh) and those entirely without any pretense of faith in the otherwordly. That being said, one of these two is based on dogma and beliefs grounded in the pre-medieval age whilst the other is not.
>>6426293
>You'll tell him you disagree on the Internet?
Even worse.
I'm gonna disagree and call him a retard over the internet.
And I'll say that being a gay christian incredibly stupid and sit back as the 300+ replies come in.
>>6425401
Which is exactly why whenever I see an anti-west SJW claim to be pro-LGBT and pro-Islam I want to throw them to the ground and stomp on their heads until whatever left is fucking transparent
>Christian culture
>pro-LGBT
Most gays I've been with are super-liberal as a matter of osmosis, much in the way that many christians I've been around have a tendency to pick up conservative outlooks by socializing with others who hold those viewpoints.
The issue with me arises once it becomes increasingly obvious they're incapable of entertaining the notion of opposition to their stance on a political issue. Someone who will draw conclusions about you, by comparing you to the worst aspects of others who might share viewpoints that are unrelated to their shitty personality are, in turn, also shitty people.
He'd probably leave you for calling teal, aqua or something.
>>6435321
>The issue with me arises once it becomes increasingly obvious they're incapable of entertaining the notion of opposition to their stance on a political issue. Someone who will draw conclusions about you, by comparing you to the worst aspects of others who might share viewpoints that are unrelated to their shitty personality are, in turn, also shitty people.
Those people are just being faggots; doesn't matter if they're gay liberals or straight conservatives. Complete, utter faggots no diffrent from anyone else who live by some useless dogma.
On the faggot note; it's a great word to use when insulting gay-haters.
