pink edition
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>>6405100
best girl
First for diy orchi
>>6405100
Third for compassion conquering all evil.
>>6405100
daily reminder that if you like pink you're agp
>>6405108
madoka is definitely best girl <3
>>6405111
Wow how did i fuck up that bad wrong gif
pls stop madoka
>>6405118
Fuck just nevermind
>tfw slept almost all morning, and still have a bad migraine.
Time to go do some farm work.
Who else /never going to transition/ here?
I'm not a "failed tranny" or a hon because I never even tried transitioning in the first place.
>>6405113
>mfw AGP
I'm a work of fiction!
>>6405126
>I'm not a "failed tranny"
>I never even tried transitioning in the first place
That's the definition of failure.
nth for male skull
Alright now that everyone has bullied me into sticking with Windows can anyone suggest to me a good PC build for under £1,500? I'm way out of the loop, haven't built a PC since the AMD Athlon days.
Anyone need a bf yet?
>>6405137
that's so last thread
>>6405126
You should give HRT a try, you don't have to "transition" right away but if you ever change your mind you wont have to start from nothing
>>6405140
Just buy an alienware laptop
>>6405135
Not really. Failing is trying something and failing to achieve what you set out to achieve.
I don't have anything I've set out to achieve and thus I haven't failed.
Either way though, I don't know if I could deal with being a tranny. I'm self conscious enough as it is....
>>6405143
nth for male skull in a pink headband
>>6405147
pffff lmao no
nth for being tall and loving it
>>6405148
You might be less self conscious as a girl, anon. I have much more confidence now that I'm in transition than I ever did pre-transition.
>>6405155
I actually like being kind of tall.
>>6405160
5'10 is a pretty comfy height
>>6405100
Pink you say? I almost never wear pink... Doesn't look anywhere as good on me as red and black.
>>6405148
Not trying is much worse than failing.
>>6405148
>I don't know if I could deal with being a tranny. I'm self conscious enough as it is....
Well if you feel like you're going to be miserable not transitioning might as well try it. Whether it makes you feel better a lot depends on how well it goes obviously but at least you can say you tried when you slit your wrists.
>>6405155
How tall is tall to you?
>>6405113
What's AGP?
>>6405145
If I change my mind and don't like HRT, then my body would be sterile and have gyno.
>>6405156
Yeah but in all fairness your boymode was pretty bad with all that acne.
I'm not mocking you though, I also had cystic acne. That shit was the worst
>>6405159
Well, yes. That's how the English language works.
And yeah I'm pretty sure I'm trans. I'm even on AAs but I just don't have the motivation to take it further.
>>6405173
Nah, I imagine that failing would feel absolutely devastating
>>6405155
It's like the perfect lukewarm kind of height.
>>6405169
Best height
>>6405174
I'm 5'10", also decided recently that I like wearing shoes that make me 6'1", it's gr8
>>6405155
I'm pretty happy with my height, too. Only about an inch taller than I wanted to be, and still not too tall for clothes that fit.
>>6405179
Everyone likes to point out my acne as if it's something I hadn't made peace with having long ago
It wasn't the root of my insecurity back then
Being a boy and repressing caused so many issues inside my head that even if I had perfect skin nothing would have changed.
>>6405176
What comment?
>>6405175
The truth about transsexuality.
>>6405140
http://www.logicalincrements.com/#TIER
>>6405155
I love being kinda tall now because I get to hold my girlfriend in my arms and I can pick her up and stuff
>>6405175
the logical conclusion to widespread plastics use
>>6405194
why doesn't your size stop her from beating you?
>>6405179
Oh in Germany we say if you don't try you have already failed (don't know the correct translation tho)
>If I change my mind and don't like HRT, then my body would be sterile and have gyno.
You are aready on AAs , they will make you sterile if I am not mistaken.
>I just don't have the motivation to take it further
Why is that?
How old are you?
>>6405185
>I'm 5'10"
But that's not tall.
>6'1"
Now that would be tall.
>>6405190
>*uncomfortably*
"Wow, he/she is so tall..."
I guess it just bothers me because one of the things she said to convince me to not transition was "but you're so tall, and your voice is deep"
it just eats at me a little, that's all.
>tfw short but want to be taller
>>6405209
I'm an inch taller. One inch.
>>6405205
What's tall? Don't you always say that 5'11" is tall? 1 inch really isn't that different
>>6405213
Autogynaphilia, the sexual attraction to cars with vaginas
>>6405203
it would so clearly thats not whats happening
finally off work! time to play league all day!
>>6405219
I think 6' is a nice and round divider and iirc <1% of cis girls are 6' or taller whereas 5'10'' or whatever nets at least a few percent.
>>6405187
Makes sense. Even when I cured most of my acne I still get dysphoric af
>>6405174
The problem is, that getting out of bed is a HUGE effort nowadays. Showering, eating, living is a huge effort.
I don't know if I have the drive and energy to actually start transitioning. I just feel lifeless, like a rock or something.
>>6405204
That's true, but I've only been on AAs for a few months, and I'm considering stopping anyway because of how expensive they are.
And I'm 19 years old.
I'm sober, and well fed.
I regret the first one of those.
But not enough to get out of bed.
>>6405233
feed me pls
I want to be 110lbs by the end of the month and I'm not gaining fast enough
>>6405230
People would tell me I'm cute or attractive but it was like
I'm still a guy
I'm not happy because of that
Doesnt matter how hot I am as a guy I need to be a girl
>The problem is, that getting out of bed is a HUGE effort nowadays. Showering, eating, living is a huge effort.
>That's true, but I've only been on AAs for a few months, and I'm considering stopping anyway because of how expensive they are.
Add E already and you might feel a lot better.
>>6405230
>The problem is, that getting out of bed is a HUGE effort nowadays.
That's because you have no t/e in your system.
>19 years old
Don't make our mistakes anon. Come out now. You will break eventually and transition will be a lot harder then.
where do you typically buy your clothes?
>>6405228
Even 5'10 would make you taller than 95% of women I think, don't have a source of that, just estimating.
Whether you're 5'10 or 6' you'd still be a tall woman, the few inches don't make much difference.
I wouldn't worry about being 6'.
>>6405230
>The problem is, that getting out of bed is a HUGE effort nowadays. Showering, eating, living is a huge effort.
Yeah I know that feel. I recently ran out of energy again and now I'm exactly where you are. I still do pop titty skittles.
> don't know if I have the drive and energy to actually start transitioning.
Buy meds online and eat them. That's all I've been doing granted that I haven't really transitioned at all in a year of doing this.
>>6405237
>A girl in one of my bands is 6'4
Hopefully she doesn't live in those bathroom police areas because a girl of that height has like 50% chance if not more of being trans statistically. They'd basically check her everytime no matter whether she's cis or not.
>>6405248
uniqlo is best
lots of my tees and stuff came from target tho cus they're cheap
if my body wasn't changing so much I'd spend more on clothes but as it is there's no point :\ it'll stop fitting in 2 months
>>6405246
I'm currently drinking 1.5L of mango-strawberry shake made with tons of ice cream. I'm willing to try most things as long as they're super-high calorie :D
I love pizza too
Posted here a few days ago, but the clip sample wasn't so good. So here's one more reflective of my voice when I'm not worn out.
Analyzer tells me I'm female range for pitch, but it still sounds a little male? idek
https://clyp.it/hsgmoiq4
I kind of regret not doing everything at the same time.
/mtfg/ never do FFS in parts!
>>6405258
nikky, you look fine. relax
>>6405258
Why do you regret anything?
i don't get it
>>6405248
Thrift stores are a lot of shit to sort through but sometimes have great stuff.
>>6405242
I don't know, I guess but transitioning seems like a hell of a lot of effort. I used to want to transition very badly but lately I'm kind of indifferent.
I'm neither extremely depressed nor very happy. I'm just a hollow shell
>>6405243
How do you know I will eventually break? I can see myself holding out until I eventually die
>>6405252
That sounds nice in theory, but hormones still cost money
>>6405248
ebay
See ya on the other side ladies
>>6405220
Oh, reminds me of a song about that...
http://youtu.be/oqDXWEArAA4
>>6405228
I guess it's kind of subjective, imo anything over the 80th percentile probably counts as "tall" though. I'm taller than a good chunk of the guys that I know, cis female friends occasionally point out how tall I am. Heels give me a good few inches on a large number of guys. It's pretty great though, not gonna lie.
>>6405258
KURWA
>>6405246
I'm just fine.
You?
>>6405252
Tbh I've met a lot more tall girls than Trans girls.
>>6405265
especially if one works in them
>>6405248
https://www.amazon
.ca/gp/product/B00X747BN0/ref=s9_simh_gw_g193_i1_r?pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=2A7PJGSV2KNN3RJBX6NA&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=b06971ce-9992-44c1-9ee0-eb9792e71b5e&pf_rd_i=desktop
https://www.amazon
.ca/gp/product/B00VJDEN1O/ref=s9_simh_gw_g193_i2_r?pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=2A7PJGSV2KNN3RJBX6NA&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=b06971ce-9992-44c1-9ee0-eb9792e71b5e&pf_rd_i=desktop
I love these skirts
forever21 is where I do most of my online shopping though
>>6405266
>hormones still cost money
I think mine cost like 3 dorra a day and I'm using expensive AA. If you're on spiro it'll be cheaper
>>6405266
We all break in the end. I thought I could do it too but I only denied myself an easier transition and lost a few years of my life.
>>6405246
>Greetings Grace.
Hay Sirona
>>6405266
It IS a lot of effort, but it's effort you'll be happy to spend
>I'm neither extremely depressed
Yes you are don't lie to yourself
You lay in bed all day
You describe yourself as indifferent to something you used to want very badly
You are a hollow shell
You are extremely depressed, anon
>>6405233
Really?
>>6405276
>getting first dibs on the actual good clothes
Monster, desu
why mtfg is so bi?
why bisexuality is so common amons trans people?
and no, AGP is not a valid theory, any theory of why trans people are so bi?
>>6405292
Oh. So you regret the recovery?
I guess that's understandable. However, doing surgery in parts has the benefit of being able to go to an upper face specialist for your upper face, and a lower face specialist for your lower... soooo you may turn out better because of that.
Worth?
>>6405256
>I'm willing to try most things as long as they're super-high calorie :D
Heh
HEH
HEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
YESSSS, YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS!, YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!
http://www.mccormick.com/Recipes/Main-Dishes/Honey-Pineapple-Chicken-Stir-Fry
http://www.food.com/recipe/creamy-cajun-chicken-pasta-39087
http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/vegetables-recipes/the-perfect-potato-gratin/
>>6405274
I've been in a lot of pain due to my wisdom teeth coming in at an angle.
I was a taste of dublin today though, so I got to try lots of lovely booze and it took the edge off the pain.
Blackwater gin is good.
As is Franciscan Well's Special IPA
Oh and I went to a job interview immediately after. Went pretty good.
>>6405287
Booze is good for you.
You know... occasionally.
It's also good to get smashed at food festivals.
>>6405291
Less repression and attachment to traditional normality, I suppose. Pretty certain most cis people would also call themselves bi if it weren't such a loaded word.
>>6405255
huh ive never gone there, i'll look into it thanks
>>6405250
>>6405268
>>6405277
i wanna shop online sice im too spaghetti to confidently shop womens sections, but im afraid shit wont fit
and yeah those skirts look nice. not exactly my style tho
EVERYONE FEEL FREE TO POST WISHLIST CLOTHES CAUSE I NEED IDEAS
>>6405290
Yeah, but I just said I was tall, not that I stick out like a sore thumb, although with a bit of effort I totally can.
>>6405290
I wouldn't call a 6' woman freakishly tall. It's really tall yeah, but not enough to be off putting.
>>6405306
Well, take your body measurements and then compare to the measurements listed for the items. I knew those skirts would fit because I have a 24-25" waist and the waist measurements were given.
>>6405308
most males are manlets anyways
>>6405311
Yeah, anything bellow 6'2 is a pretty much a dwarf, right?
>>6405155
If I was 5'9" or 5'10" I'd be fine, but I'm about 6'3" and I hate it
>>6405310
yeah that seems simple enough. i guess i'll have to get a tape measure
>>6405306
Wishlist is still that comfy sweater :3
>m afraid shit wont fit
Most shops have good mechanisms to tell you which size fits you. Just bought two jeans and a top online and the website tool gave me the perfect size.
>>6405314
just inferior genes. shame they outbreed
>>6405306
>but im afraid shit wont fit
Yeah my stuff hasn't fit so far but it's chinese junk from ebay at worst I lose like 10 bucks, usually less than 5.
>>6405308
>>6405307
It does draw attention tho and make passing way way harder which is the main issue I got with it.
I just got my rainbow stockings, but I have to go to work soon, so I don't have time to indulge AGP.
life is hard
>>6405266
>I'm just a hollow shell
this is a sign that you're going to break
acting like a real person is a lot harder than being a real person, because you have to consciously know what the "right" actions and answers are.
>>6405306
>im too spaghetti to confidently shop womens sections, but im afraid shit wont fit
I'm in the same boat. I still live in my hometown too, so I'm always afraid I'm gonna run into someone I know.
I've legit only bought underwear, leggings and one top so far. The top doesn't fit well tbqh.
>>6405310
It doesn't always work that way, especially not when you have broad shoulders and you want stuff with sleeves.
>>6405306
uniqlo is for little japanese girls. which is actually good because japanese girls have no hips either so it's the best way to find shorts/pants that fit both in the waist and the hips!
I'd post my wish list but I'm not at my pc :x
>>6405300
Jesus christ. Those recipes are amazing holy shit. The gratin seems like a lot of work though so I'll probably cut out a couple things like the chestnuts and sub the semi-skim milk with full homo milk.
Dayum. Food is awesome.
>>6405306
http://www.forever21
.com/CA/Product/Product.aspx?BR=f21&Category=top_blouses&ProductID=2000169802&VariantID=
http://www.forever21
.com/CA/Product/Product.aspx?BR=f21&Category=bottoms_shorts&ProductID=2000185769&VariantID=
what's your style? This stuff is about as basic as it gets so it'd be a good place to start.
http://www.forever21
.com/CA/Product/Product.aspx?BR=f21&Category=top_blouses&ProductID=2000220728&VariantID=
I love open-shoulder stuff too. It seems to minimize the shoulders.
http://www.forever21
.com/CA/Product/Product.aspx?BR=f21&Category=top_blouses&ProductID=2000131539&VariantID=
>>6405322
The sleeve length is often provided. Find stuff with slightly longer than average sleeves.
>>6405320
Does it? People point out how tall I am all the time, but in close to 6 years of fulltime I have yet to have anybody make the association that tall=tranny, neither in flats nor in heels.
privet nerds
>>6405329
I like the price on that v-neck. I should head over to f21. Thanks
>>6405337
P-please post more food. I want to be chubby when I grow up.
>>6405333
I think what she means is, the more people pay attention to you the more likely it is you're going to get clocked.
>>6405338
in my experience the biggest issue with f21 is that you can only wash their stuff like twice before it just falls apart. idk its all cute but just too cheap
>>6405306
Here are the last things I've added to my Amazon wishlists.
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/aw/d/B019HXTY8E/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_1?colid=37ZWWC21TGKTX&coliid=I32ESP70EY64XJ&vs=1
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/aw/d/B01CZZ86DU/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_1?colid=3CSWAL6LM632B&coliid=IJ2BIIXUW29FZ&vs=1
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/aw/d/B017YGH91U/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_1?colid=2L715408FO26Y&coliid=IRADY2JRDE8LZ&vs=1
Not really looking for clothes at the moment, though. The big summer sales start next Wednesday here and that's when I do most of my clothes shopping. Bargain hunting is good for my budget. And my body since going on a shopping marathon for two days or three in a row is some serious exercise.
>>6405329
>I love open-shoulder stuff too. It seems to minimize the shoulders.
Last I heard it had the opposite effect, same with V necks. You probs just got cis girl shoulders if it looks good on you.
>>6405333
Well I'm not fulltime nor even part-time but not being able to find clothes in my sizes certainly doesn't help with transition.
>>6405258
Who'd you go to for FFS?
also you went from a 5 to an 8
>>6405334
ohaiyo !!
>>6405343
A lot of their stuff pretty clearly says to hand-wash rather than machine wash. If you don't mind doing some laundry in the sink/tub it should be fine.
>>6405345
I dunno, maybe I do, but I feel like really small necklines and closed shoulders make my shoulders look a lot bigger. 16" bideltoid is kind of big on my otherwise fairly small frame.
>>6405333
The only stares my height has brought me were ones of obvious envy. I guess I'm pretty close to how tall most women wish they were.
>be straight male
>like mtfs
>want sex and/or relationship with mtfs
>get called a chaser
>be straight male
>not into mtfs
>refuse sex/reationship with mtfs
>get called a bigot
There's no winning, is there?
Would it be a bad idea to pluck out all of the hairs on my face?
I'm seriously sick of having stubble and I don't have an epilator, plus I have a lot of unsupervised time this weekend
took me ~two thirds of a bottle of vodka but I finally slept for almost 8 hours
>>6405329
The top I have is a boatneck, and I'm not sure whether it looks good or not. They look less bulky, but my collarbone looks longer than usual.
I do like stuff that covers my wrist and some of my hand, so finding things with the desirable sleeve length is difficult.
>>6405352
Nope. Straight males are losers anyway.
I just was in the pass thread.
I can't tell if cis girls are trolling or if I am fucking ugly.
>>6405352
extrapolate?
>>6405340
>I want to be chubby when I grow up.
*glare of disbelief*
Trip on Kato.
I kid, I kid
http://odlums.ie/recipes/chicken-and-broccoli-bake/
http://www.safefood.eu/Healthy-Eating/Recipes/Dinner/Chicken-casserole.aspx
http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/pork-recipes/toad-in-the-hole/
https://www.bakingmad.com/the-ultimate-chocolate-brownie-recipe/
>>6405361
(Friendly reminder that Chara means "friend" in Irish)
Punny, innit'?
>>6405360
youre ugly
but it doesnt stop you from passing
>>6405352
The key is to try to date women and not run upon finding out one you liked is mtf. Any deviation from that gets someone mad at you.
>>6405360
I wouldn't take those pass threads too seriously. I was told I'd need T shots if I wanted a hope to pass as male. I guess I'm not ready for my FtM transition.
>>6405345
>Last I heard it had the opposite effect, same with V necks.
so much conflicting information about that :\ I hear both ways, in my experience v necks are bad for me but more open shoulders looks good on me. it's weird. so it seems like you have to trial and error to figure it out :\
>>6405349
oh huh. usually I'm pretty good about checking the wash instructions but maybe I missed it, idk.
regardless hopefully once my weight stops changing I'll be able to actually spend some money on nice clothes so idk if I'll have to give f21 another chance.
>>6405352
well liking mtfs doesn't automatically make you a chaser. it's fetishizing us or specifically liking gt that would make you one.
>>6405366
>Trip on Kato.
oi
I don't use that much punctuation
>>6405317
ooh i like that
>>6405320
oh wow that IS cheap. not a terrible idea
>>6405322
yea i just always get uncomfortable, like people are looking at me and thinking im a creep or something. i know its in my head but still.
>>6405323
yeah, looking a thier site now, it looks pretty good
>>6405329
wow i honestly love everything you posted, especially the shirt at the bottom. i wear that style cut a lot.
currently my style is... colorful tanktops and sweatpantish pants and shorts... still kind of transitioning away from my mens clothes and finding my style
>>6405344
probably not what i'd go for, but those are nice. yeah i definitely have to hunt for bargains cause im poor as shit
THANK YOU for all this feedback everyone, this is great
>>6405342
Ime people don't actually notice your height at all unless you're interacting with them one on one and have several inches of difference though, so it doesn't really draw any attention to yourself that you don't already have. People aren't that observant really.
>>6405345
You've said that you're 5'11" before right? It's easy to find stuff that fits if you buy from reputable places and follow their sizing guides, you're 1 inch off from typical modeling height and it's rare for reputable clothing brands to not produce the clothes in the size that they showed them off in. My legs are notably long and I don't even need to buy the extra length jeans that most places sell.
>>6405350
Yeah. I'm surprised at how often cis girls have actually flat out said to me that they wish they were taller.
>>6405365
I won't have money for that for a long time and I'm just about ready to shoot a motherfucker
>>6405365
I used to do it as a teenager. It's not that painful. Only extremely long and tedious, even using an electrical epilator.
>>6405193
>http://www.logicalincrements.com/#TIER
??? Is this supposed to be a virus or something?
>>6405349
>really small necklines and closed shoulders make my shoulders look a lot bigger
From what I've read you're supposed to hide shoulder breadth with lots of stuff around the neck which V neck is like the opposite of and nothing to draw attention to the shoulders themselves like open shoulders would do.
>16" bideltoid
I got 19'' hon shoulders, I envy you.
>>6405378
>so much conflicting information about that
Guess it also depends on shoulder shape. If you're angular and rectangular they both look awful but if you're just wide then open shoulders might look okay?
>>6405382
>oh wow that IS cheap
The quality is equally horrible tho.
>>6405383
>You've said that you're 5'11" before right?
I'm between 6' and 6'1'', most of my height is in my back.
>if you buy from reputable places and follow their sizing guides
I don't think buying cheap chinese products from ebay really qualifies. You're lucky to have them tell if it's S or M size neither of which is big enough.
>>6405366
I-I'm a namefag D: I'm not that well known I guess D:
also I want to make you my wife so you can cook for me. Let's be transbians together.
>>6405378
Well maybe you were doing everything right and the build quality was still bad, but to be fair, the f21 stuff comes from a variety of manufacturers, so I doubt the quality is consistent. I take good care of my clothes, though... hand wash, hang dry... if you avoid washing machines, then stuff can't really fall apart. I think.
>>6405382
As you can tell from my skirts I like a kind of retro-inspired style. I think the skirts are super elegant and cute, and I pair them with more modern tops.
Shorts are great though, but they don't really fit into the cutesy-elegant style I like.
>>6405390
btw are you proud of my alcoholing skills
>>6405374
p good p good, going to work in like 4 minutes...
>>6405382
buying pantyhose for my gaff was sooooo uncomfortable
omg
no ragrets tho
>>6405384
>I won't have money for that for a long time
hey me neither
it might make it more expensive in the long run though, idrk
>>6405387
good! leaving for work in a minute or two
>Walk past black gang on high road
>Imagine walking past them in girlmode
>Go home ant throw away hormones
>>6405370
>I was told I'd need T shots if I wanted a hope to pass as male.
I am not sure if that is an insult or a compliment.
I didn't post a picture of me. I was just looking how other mtfs are doing.
i just napped and my cocklust is gone for now PHEW
>>6405406
good one
>>6405392
...wat? it's logical increments, logical increments is the best
You will never pick up an impressionable skinnyfat anon with QT potential. You will never groom him onto the intense fitness program you gave up on for hrt. Never force him to do no fap while teasing him with hints of your increasingly feminine body. Never finally meet him 6 months down the line and overwhelm his test soaked shy autist brain in a bara body, with lewdity till you get a really hard fuck. Then we become perfect gf and precum soaked penis. Anyone else have a masculisation fetish to match the chasers thing for feminization or is this just an AGP feel?
>>6405383
I've had so many girls in Thailand go visibly green with envy. Even vendors at clothes stores, which was a bit unprofessional of them. That was nowhere near the mix of surprise and jealousy I got when shopping for foundation, though. That one insisted that I should start trying two shades deep in the range, and she had a serious WTH moment when she saw even the lightest one was visibly too dark for my skin. That wasn't even an Asian brand...
>>6405410
oh hey it's quid
hey quid
>>6405395
>I want to make you my wife so you can cook for me
0///0
O-Oh...
Um...
Can you wait a few years for me to get pretty?
I'm not ready for dating yet...
(and I know it's you anon-chan, I was just poking fun at our resident stayan.)
>>6405396
>only 2 thirds
Admittedly, that much vodka would have me curled up under a bed bawling my eyes out, but that's because voddy disagrees with me.
Holy water on the other hand...
Well, I'll just say that I went through 2 bottles of Uisce Beatha today.
>>6405405
Took it as a compliment since they didn't doubt I was FtM...
>>6405394
>From what I've read you're supposed to hide shoulder breadth with lots of stuff around the neck which V neck is like the opposite of and nothing to draw attention to the shoulders themselves like open shoulders would do.
Breaking up the shoulder profile with a v-neck at least seems like a pretty solid idea. But that's just my experience and also what I've read.
>>6405417
Where do you live, because I have a gang of Moroccan pirates ready to kidnap you for me
>>6405419
They still do SRS in Casablanca? I thought that died out in the 90s...
>>6405419
...
Ireland.
>because I have a gang of Moroccan pirates ready to kidnap you for me
Reminds me of this: http://www.baltimore.ie/heritage-history/the-sack-of-baltimore-1631.html
Holy shit I hate professional dress codes.
>>6405419
>Breaking up the shoulder profile with a v-neck at least seems like a pretty solid idea
I can see it working if you got those pretty sloping shoulders or at least something like that but I can't imagine it working with broad.
>>6405430
>v necks just emphasize how flat chested I am lol
That too. It seems like a horrible idea if you got no breasts or they're so far apart they can't form a cleavage.
>>6405394
When it comes to buying clothes you sometimes get what you pay for, cheap chinese clothing on ebay or amazon rarely fits cis girls properly, let alone someone larger in stature. If price is an issue, then brands such as H&M and Forever 21 are a solid bet, and they have all their sizing info available. Alternately, wait for end of season sales from other clothing companies and buy stuff up when it's cheap. Stuff in your size is definitely available, you just have to exercise caution in what you buy.
>>6405413
Eyy you have the pale skin thing going on as well? I switched brands of foundation recently and just remember being in the store sampling all of their foundations and eventually realizing that the only one that even sort of worked was the lightest shade they made. Everything else stuck out really bad.
>>6405428
Reminds I grabbed my first batch of women's field uniform pieces at work right before flying to Thailand. Haven't even tried them.
>>6405438
I mean I hate being forced to present as male in a professional environment with a dress code.
Just fuck my shit up
>>6405439
I've always taken steps to keep my skin as pale as possible. Even though having a largely outdoors job made that a bit problematic.
>>6405441
What were you wearing before?
>>6405446
Same same.
Anything longer than a brief stint outside and I'm wearing SPF 85 sunscreen. Gotta maintain the vampire a e s t h e t i c
>>6405444
Oh I'm sorry. D:
At least that means you must have a decent job, though. You'll be wearing pencil skirts before you know it.
>>6405414
hi cuddleplum :3
>>6405453
I'm unemployed right now. I'm just looking over the employee introduction .pdf for a place I'm considering applying to.
>Males: ...Nails must be neat, clean and trimmed. Natural or clear coat is
acceptable, no colored nails. Wearing ties with a collared shirt is encouraged
I get the impression this isn't the kind of place that would hire someone who's visibly trans, either.
>>6405459
>promoting skin cancer
uva and uvb protective sunscreen every day, reapply every 2 hours. no exceptions. skin must be porcelain
>>6405460
Oh. Yeah they don't sound super liberal lol
FWIW I'd hire you
>>6405455
get on discord so I can send you my steam and skype
>>6405466
I mean... I tan well. Most Irish pure-bloods are white as sheets and turn red when it's over cast. My heritage means that I turn from pale as a ghost to the colour of french toast.
>>6405459
Smoking used to be considered fashionable too. Down with skin damage.
>>6405472
The pirates are on their way. You will be my waifu.
>>6405472
no, you skipping sun protection is what makes you go from pale as a ghost to looking like toast
>>6405451
I don't really need sunscreen for that. Just avoiding staying in direct sunlight for hours. My skin is a bit exotic, not your typical northern European pink, more slightly tallowish but still very pale. It takes a lot for me to either tan or get sunburnt, for some reason.
>>6405449
At work? Rarely the uniform because the male cuts made my boobs leftover from my first transition very obvious and the pants were two waist sizes too large to fit my hips and butt, so it looked kind of wrong. So, usually, T-shirt or white shirt and either jeans or dress pants, plus a trench coat, all from the women's section. I never managed to find men's clothes that didn't look wrong on me. Mostly because I hate wearing shapeless oversized clothes.
>>6405469
oki
>>6405467
They probably don't enforce the rules very strictly, though. It says you're not supposed to bring books in, but the girl I chatted with in the store said she just reads when she doesn't have customers. Maybe I'd be able to deal with wearing male clothing if I don't have to interact with many customers... Ugh.
I'll kill you all
>>6405475
Fair enough. I'll get cream on me next time I have the cash for it.
>>6405477
Nah. I never fully lose it. I'm usually sallow. But during winter people actually guess my nationality correctly. Every job interview I've had in the past 6 weeks, they've assumed I'm Brazilian until I correct them. Even a few of my Brazillian co-workers have thought I was from their homeland.
>>6405476
...
Oh dear.
>3 (you)s in a row
Am I popular yet mommy?
>>6405480
Why would you wear men's clothes in the first place? I thought you'd been presenting female for a while. Or have you been on a long break from work?
>>6405493
thank you
>>6405439
>Forever 21
Wew they actually ship to finland, that's great. Some of the items are kinda affordable too there but they still don't list the sizing info for other than bust/waist for shirts and such. I highly doubt those are made with 19'' shoulders and stupidly tall torsos in mind and I can't really know as they dont list those measurements. Like yeah I got large-sized bust but that's not indicative of my size at all because I got no breasts like the women who the clothes are designed for do lol.
>>6405493
Start with me.
>>6405496
hi slug !!!
>>6405487
>tfw smoking long girly cigarettes
>>6405493
Hey now, that's not very nice!
What'd I do?
Come on, there's no need to be like that! Talk about it with me?
>>6405493
Do it wimp, you wont
>>6405487
It's not olive either. More like very pale Asian. And I'm a pure-blooded Arvern... So not Mediterranean at all.
>>6405487
Maybe some places but definitely not here.
>>6405480
You're fortunate then I guess. I have a mix of Irish, Scottish and British genes, am paler than some gingers I've known, and will burn after only a brief period outside on overcast days. My genetics seem particularly bad, my grandfather couldn't tolerate sun exposure at all without his skin reacting horribly to it, called it a sun allergy but I don't think it was an actual allergy.
>>6405502
helo kit!! how are you!!!
>>6405507
BULLYMEPLS
>>6405495
I presented male for fifteen years at work before coming out and going full time in one fell swoop. I've also been on medical leave for more than a year, so, yeah, long break.
>>6405514
im ok ! i got my hair done yesterday it looked really nice. i got it lightened and styled and i got some drills, but then i go to sleep last night and when i woke up i lost my drills cause i slept on them !!
how are you???
>>6405517
Why are you asking to be bullied? Are you some kind of spineless freak that gets off on it?
What
a
weirdo
>>6405515
I'm going to assume that means do you speak Brazilian Portuguese. I don't.
Eh. I'll consider it. If nothing else, it'll moisturise my skin somewhat.
>>6405494
>they've assumed I'm Brazilian
Brazilians are so hot
http://mujskoy.jimdo.com/caмыe-pocкoшныe-пoпы-бpaзилии/
>>6405511
jelly of that tone. olive undertones make me look yellow-green. I get asked if I'm sick a lot
>>6405512
no no no not fashionable, /fa/shionable. important distinction
>>6405518
>before coming out and going full time in one fell swoop
tell me your secrets
I pass well enough that contractors usually have to walk out of the men's room and double check the sign if they see me in there but I'm too embarrassed by my entire existence to tell my boss I'm female now
>>6405527
I actually have no idea what it means but it's what brazilians always say when you get into random groups with them in wow. I forget the meme thing that peruvians say in dota
skincare is important! especially after you start hrt because your skin produces less oil so it gets drier and more easily damaged.
>>6405504
>smoking
Why do people do this? It gives you cancer and isn't even that good of a drug.
>>6405518
What were your colleagues like about it?
Mtfg is a hugbox
HRT does nothing
Transition is a meme
Death is the only escape
Suicide is painless
>>6405534
Widespread smoking is a status symbol for your nation, it shows that you've successfully reached the level of wealth where your citizens can afford the habit.
>>6405534
It's an incredibly accessible drug if you're remotely worried about legal repercussions.
But yeah it's kinda gross.
>>6405534
to die fashionably ofc :3
>>6405530
404'd
Sorry
(dey preddy hot do, specially dem brazzi guys with tats <3)
>>6405531
Well, I'll keep it in mind for when I finally can afford my freakin pills.
>>6405534
I use it as a panic button. Smoke a cigar before actually trying suicide. It's saved me 7 times now. 2 ciggarinos, 3 pall-malls and 4 cigars.
The nicotine high helps just enough, and with cigars, the lack of oxygen gives you this wonderful feeling.
>>6405537
I didn't hugbox you
You need to pluck your eyebrows
>>6405497
Their sizing guides translate to UK and EU dress sizes. A large at forever 21 is a UK size 16 and EU size 42 apparently, and these conventions are standardised afaik. I wear a large from forever 21 though so if they don't have an xl it may not work ;~;
>>6405531
/fa/ needs to get with the times then. Smoking is gross ;~;
>>6405522
that sounds cute post pics
im good. I ate kratom and made stupid memes all day
>>6405537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO7uemm6Yo
>>6405545
She's memeing. I hope.
I really hope.
>>6405531
I just did it. In my usual brash and chaotic manner. Just went to work with a clean haircut with bangs, slightly more feminine clothes than usual, makeup and my ears pierced. Everyone knew what that meant... Then I went to the colonel's office without knocking and told him I had finally decided to cut my hair as he had long been asking me to. I watched him stay speechless for a while, then I went to work as usual.
I used to not support eugenics, but then I came out of the closet and noticed how many people are legitimately not intelligent enough to be good people.
>>6405550
Talking about killing yourself is a time honored mtfg tradition
>>6405548
im too shy sluggu ;~;
thats why i tried my best to describe it visually. i hope you understand
>>6405552
*appreciative clapping*
>>6405541
>Lung cancer
>Dying fashionably
Pick one
>>6405539
No poor nations smoke more
>>6405542
Try this one
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/photos/miss-bumbum?sort=mostpopular&excludenudity=true&mediatype=photography&phrase=miss%20bumbum&family=editorial
As soon as we hear about it one of our feminist dyke reporters just had to bitch about it. I hate this country.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2341786/From-contest-best-humiliating-game-shows-TV-degrading-women-passes-entertainment-Brazil.html
>>6405556
You know, there are days when I feel just like you do now.
*puts you in a box and hugs you*
I don't get why people are mean. Makes no sense desu.
>>6405546
>Their sizing guides translate to UK and EU dress sizes.
But those dont tell anything bout height or shoulder width
>if they don't have an xl it may not work ;~;
Rip. I'm forever boymode due to beard shadow and I think I'll stay like this for the forseeable future anyways.
>>6405512
>Irish, Scottish and british
Are you fucking retarded
>>6405560
>dying sooner
>dying fashionably
yup yup!
>>6405536
Got absolutely no shit from the field or my tech team, but quite a few of them had already seen me in a dress at a wedding a few years before, so it was already known. The secretaries took it as a greenlight to be openly friendly. My superiors were nonplussed but they knew I could cause major trouble if they did anything even remotely transphobic, so they caved in.
>>6405556
As I said to Kayla, trannies will be the first to go under Nazi policies
>>6405558
*imagines you in my head instead (cute) and also imagines that ur my gf*
owned nerd
>>6405561
It's not even about being mean. There are people who are more or less well-meaning, but they are too stupid to understand the implications of what they say and think. They contribute bad to the world because they can't help it.
>>6405566
I don't see what you're getting at. I know there's not a lot of difference, but there is still some.
>>6405575
Oh. I don't dislike those people. I feel hurt when I face people with bad intentions, but people who are well-meaning and just dumb aren't so bad... at least you're smart enough to know they're not trying to be hurtful :)
>>6405534
Nicotine is one of the very few psychoactive drugs that have a major effect on me. The others being opiates and benzos. As a result, I'm much more secure and functional if I have it in my system all day. So I dip. Much better than smoking to get a steady level, and so much cheaper than patches.
>>6405567
>Cancer
>Fast death
>>6405569
>My superiors were nonplussed but they knew I could cause major trouble if they did anything even remotely transphobic, so they caved in.
I don't like when this happens, it's like the're putting up with you. You get your way but it's awkward because you know deep down they don't really like you. I'd prefer to change jobs and tell no-one but good for you. What job do you do?
>>6405590
>dip
Fucking revolting, and I say that as an ex smoker
>>6405591
you can't enjoy the tragedy as well if it's a quick death, i said *sooner* not quick
>>6405574
>>6405574
>*imagines you in my head instead (cute)*
then i hope you like being dissapointed slugg !!!
>>6405578
>Andalusian, Catalan and Spanish
>>6405590
i used to smoke for focus reasons too. ive managed to get myself prescribed a stimulant and its been so much nicer. highly recommend trying.
>>6405578
Irish, Scottish, English and Welsh. the British Isles is geographical grouping, and Great Britain is an Empire based admin term for the countries who aren't cunts. British identity includes the Welsh and Scots. The Irish have their own because they got their own island
>>6405598
>implying you could disappoint anyone
literal heresy
>>6405590
I first heard about dipping a week ago in a documentary about PCP.
>>6405512
I used to be immune to the sun. Now I burn by particularly intense moonlight ;-;
I think that's the second effect of HRT I've been unhappy with. The first was getting cold all the time.
Jo Cox's last words:
>My pain, it's too much!
Some Julius Caesar-tier shit.
>>6405598
disappointment implies you'll show me what you look like
i win either way kiddo
>>6405590
If it works for you that's great. Back in high school there was this guy in my computer class who would always dip and spit it into a dr pepper can, it was nasty.
>>6405605
hiiiiiii sophie !!!!!
you are too nice to me omgg also i hope you are going well !
>>6405591
Senior officer in the national forest service. Honestly, they didn't like my methods before even though I had results. Last year, I was so disgusted by everything work that I let myself die rather than quitting and ending up homeless. Someone took me to the ER, I spent a year as a psychiatric inpatient, and since I thoroughly covered my ass so they couldn't spin my suicide as not work related as they always try to do, I'm on extended medical leave and waiting for early retirement with a decent disability pension.
>>6405604
Yes, but I'm saying my heritage is entirely from the British isles and Ireland, in a few more words. Anon was the one that took some more explicit meaning out of it. In terms of actual ancestry, there still is some distinction, albeit small, although it's safe to say that a group limited in range to the Scottish highlands probably had less yearly sun exposure than someone living at the southern tip of Britain.
