What are so many gay people, men in particular, so enamored with Hillary Clinton?
Are you baiting?
People hate her. Nearly fucking everyone hates her
You know, I just watched a stadium full of thousands upon thousands of TEXAS REPUBLICANS ==CHEER== the gay community. Hillary sure as fuck couldn't do that. In fact wouldn't do that if she was given the chance, because we are far more useful to her as an oppressed minority, not as accepted normal peers. Trump just made Gays the heroes of the Republicans.
Trump 2016
Because they're either ignorant or shills, and it goes for really any demographic supporting that she-devil. Nobody likes clinton, but
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
- Joseph Goebbels
>>6401942
Yea, thats why she's ahead and the pol's and had a dedicated gay following that preferred her to Sanders, even the HRC got behind her early on, you're a fool and a tool if you just buy into media narratives.
no one loves her, or even likes her. she's just "not-trump"
I'm a lesbian and I hate all of this year's candidates. When do we get to vote for someone who is pro-LGBT, pro-gun, pro-labor-union, pro-environment, and pro-Constitution?
>>6401991
You're even dumber for promoting Trump, he has more on the record lies than Hillary. They're both liars, but he lies more frequently.
You're a real dope if you think Hillary or Trump is honest.
>>6402017
Are you kidding me, gay men and heterosexual women, and black people are her base. It's manly heterosexuals/ males who prefer Trump.
>>6401935
Because she has six detailed policy goals to further LGBT rights and protections
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/12/17/fighting-for-full-equality/
>>6402018
OP, said gay men, but I as a gay man welcome the lesbian perspective.
I haven't really seen any support for her among gay people, personally. Everyone that I've seen comment on her at all has been to say that she's done nothing for gays in her whole career, and only started giving us lip service recently, during the safest time in history to do so.
>>6402018
There are really no effectively anti gun candidates for a few reasons.
1. America's gun laws are so lax that anyone who suggests any slight regulation is instantly labeled anti gun, even some wackos are saying Donald Trump is anti gun for wanting to keep guns out of the hands of terrorists.
2.) The Congress is so stacked against any gun legislation that it doesn't really matter what a Presidential Candidate's views on guns are.
>>6402050
You chill with Sander's people right?
>>6402018
Hillary's all that with the exception of pro-gun
>>6402018
This. A thousand times this. Add in anti-domestic surveillance, and that's exactly my combination of positions. I've never been able to cast a vote for a candidate who wasn't going to fuck over something important in at least half of those categories. Bernie was the only candidate that I had any hope for, and he's no longer an option.
>>6402037
>It's manly heterosexuals/ males who prefer Trump.
>manly
yeah ok bud
>Are you kidding me, gay men and heterosexual women, and black people are her base.
voter base =! love/like
>>6402069
I do. Biased sample and all, but I can only report what I personally have seen.
>>6401942
>4chan is representative of the larger political opinions of the homosexual community
Gay man here and I'd literally rather kill myself before voting Hillary.
Trump >>>>>>>>>>> Sanders >>>>>>>>>> Hilldawg
>>6401935
She's a woman. Faggy fags love women and wish they were them.
They just want her to win because she's a woman.
>>6402103
i'd like a kawaii girl presidency but not from hillary
>>6402102
There's literally no reason to vote for Trump. Hilldawg actually has great positions and policies it's just not "cool" because she doesn't promise false lies of revolution. She has actual, real plans
>>6402046
I mean, OP said "gay people, especially men," but I get you. It just makes me sick that so many gay/bi women are willing to go all out for someone who supports laws that erode due process and habeus corpus (i.e. her proposed gun regulations). The woman doesn't even believe in totally, 100% free speech, which is especially troubling considering that free speech and the right to due process are what made it possible for women and LGBT people as a whole to organize for our rights and not just get shoved in jail indefinitely temporarily like in Iran or wherever. I've already got my lovely, freethinking fianceé, so I'm not too worried about the dumbing down of the lesbian dating pool, but it must really suck being a reasonable woman these days. Those few reasonable gay gals are just surrounded by a bunch of morons who believe anything they read on Huffington Post or Jezebel. Trump's a steaming pile of shit, but there is no way in hell you could convince me to vote for Hillary.
I hate the idea of voting defensively, but I'd sooner see the carnival barker in office than that harpy.
>>6402116
>no reason to vote for Trump
He's against muslim immigration for one.
>>6402084
You and me are one and the same. I filed that position under "pro-Constitution." You know, because the Bill of Rights and all. I lost hope for Bernie when he came out and described himself as a "democratic socialist." My lost hope went down the drain completely when he just let those BLM protestors hijack his speech.
>>6402071
Hillary is also for the total destruction of the working class with H-1B visas, mass migration, and 'free trade'.
>>6402132
Yeah throwing out the 1st Amendment is not something I consider to be a good thing. American Muslims actually lean liberal. Trump is trying to divide us because he's being demolished in the polls. #TakeTheHillPill
>>6402147
>American Muslims actually lean liberal.
Yeah I know, Omar Mateen was a registered Democrat.
>>6402132
he's against it but there's no way anything promoting it in reality would go through congress so it's a non-starter. rhetoric, etc.
>>6402071
>Hillary
>pro-Constitution
Bullshit. And she's only pro-environment and pro-LGBT now that Democrats swing that way. She used to be super homophobic and her environmental record is absolute trash up until recently.
>>6402147
I agree. The main cause of terrorism is our intolerance of Islam. We need more diversity, because it will enrich all Americans to import people who believe gays should be executed.
>>6402153
Omar Mateen was a self-hating homo and specifically called 911 in the hopes that he would be remembered as a terrorist instead of being gay
>>6402018
so Trump
>>6402147
>#TakeTheHillPill
pfizer pls
>>6402169
>Trump
>pro-LGBT
pick one
>>6402147
What in the hell does temporarily halting Muslim immigration into the country have to do with the 1st Amendment?
>>6402164
>self-hating homo
This meme again. The Democrat-voting muslims are people like Omar Mateen, I don't want their goatfucker religion in my country, Abdullah.
>>6402161
>falling for le spooky Muslim memes
>>6402147
I've seen the light! I've #TakenTheHillPill and am now #MentallyHill.
>>6402176
It specifically discriminates against people of a certain religion, which the 1st Amendment protects. Basically, if you want to get into America, you have to believe a certain religion. How do you not get that?
>>6402175
But both apply, why would I only choose one?
>>6402175
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/23/us/politics/donald-trump-gay-rights.html
Cry more cuck.
>>6402185
Ha that's a good one. Using that
>>6402182
These are things Muslims are outright admitting to us, and not Muslims in third world shitholes either. Watch this, you might actually learn something if you're not just a paid shill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQcSvBsU-FM
>>6402182
Yes anon it's only a meme, muslims in fact love gays.
>>6402175
>Trump
>anti-LGBT
pick one
he's already fine with trans, just has to be turned around on state rights
>>6402071
She really isn't. She's only started being pro-LGBT and pro-environment in the very recent past, and so it's hard to take her seriously about her current positions on those issues given that it flatly contradicts her history on them. As for pro-constitution, she's anti-gun, which many people would interpret as a constitutional issue, and she's been a consistent advocate for censorship and domestic surveillance, which are attacks on the 1st and 4th amendments. Again, even if she has the right positions listed on her website, she doesn't have a history with them that inspires confidence.
>>6402189
Foreigners aren't American citizens. They don't get the protection of the first amendment until they're legal immigrants.
>>6402071
>pro-lgbt
>didn't support gay rights until it was expedient, 2 years before supreme court ruling. Often spoke out against gay marriage.
if she is she has a funny way of showing it
>pro-labor union
>was on the board of Walmart, supported almost every trade deal that negatively impacted workers.
>pro-environment
>pushed fracking all over the world, was pro keystone pipeline, wants to slowly wane off one fossil fuel to another fossil fuel and THEN to clean energy
>pro-constitution
>voted for the patriot act
pls go, correct the record
>>6402169
>pro-LGBT
Nope.
>pro-gun
Maybe... But he sure loved the Dems back in the 90s when they were sitting on their bullshit AWB.
>pro-environment
The man built luxury hotels and golf courses with water features in the SW and said fracking isn't a big deal. Nope!
>pro-labor-union
Please check out his business record.
>pro-Constitution
He doesn't believe in the 1st Amendment when it comes to Muslims. Nope.
Fuck off.
Trump is more LGBT than Hillary.
>>6402225
And Hillary wants to admit 65,000 people who think sodomy should be a crime.
>>6402189
The First Amendment only applies to American Citizens.
>https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
Trump would have the full legal ability to ban more mudslimes from coming into the US.
>“Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”
>>6402189
>It specifically discriminates against people of a certain religion, which the 1st Amendment protects.
There is no "right" to immigrate to the United States. It is specifically within the President's power to halt the entry of ANY class of aliens into the country if he deems it necessary to do so for the safety and security of the nation. There is precedent for this. Moreover, this proposed TEMPORARY ban would not affect any Muslims here legally. They would still be free to practice their religion unimpeded.
>>6402189
You fucking moron, people wanting to immigrate are not protected by the constitution, it only applies to American citizens. There was actually an EXPLICIT ruling stating this because some foreigner was blowing money on a political campaign in the US like 10 years back.
>>6402213
https://www.aclu.org/rights-immigrants-aclu-position-paper
>But once here, even undocumented immigrants have the right to freedom of speech and religion, the right to be treated fairly, the right to privacy, and the other fundamental rights U.S. citizens enjoy.
>>6402213
>"Congress shall make no LAW respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
if you ban a certain religion from entering the country that is taking legal action and respecting other religions above that one.
it's not about foreigners, it about what the government is allowed to do and that isn't one of the things it is.
>>6402247
Your information is a little outdated.
>>6402181
Ok let's get a few things straight.
I didn't buy into the Omar Mateen being gay at first until I heard the testimony of his ex wife and a former college buddy.
His ex-wife said he had some seedy club life that he was kind of ashamed of and didn't really like to talk about.
And a close friend of his in college claims Mateen once asked him if he was gay, and when he said no Mateen said
>Oh...okay, well if you were, you would be my type.
I think now that he was gay and he also believed in the ISIS cause, the only reason h chose the gay club as a target was because of his self hatred, but the driving motive was still his belief in the ISIS bullshit.
Also not all democrats or liberals love Muslims. I'm liberal on pretty much every fucking issue except Muslims and immigration.
I'm for very strict immigration laws, and I despise the religion of Islam because 1.) I believe it is a lie and the Prophet Muhammad was an evil person, 2.) Islam itself hates me as a person
So no, not every liberal loves Muslim cock, fuck your ignorance.
>>6402256
Well good thing Trump wouldn't require Congress to make a law to enact his proposed temporary ban.
>>6402254
>But once here
>>6402247
Hillary came out in support of gay marriage the same time Obama did and since then under Obama we've had
>Don't Ask Don't Tell repealed
>DOMA ruled unconstitutional
>Equal marriage
I'm fine with Hillary evolving on the issue, considering Trump still doesn't support our rights to this day
>>6402277
I wish the Supreme Court would just rule the second amendment unconstitutional already.
>>6402293
You mean the only thing protecting the first amendment? Why exactly would you want that?
>>6402274
>the constitution, it only applies to American citizens.
no, it doesn't
>>6402301
Americans die most from the guns they own. The 2nd Amendment was established to maintain a well organized militia. There's literally no standard to meet to own a gun. It's not being followed
>>6402256
I think this is something that would require a supreme court ruling. A valid legal argument could be made that preventing people of a certain religion from immigrating does not affect the ability of American citizens to freely practice any religion they want. The opposing argument is that, regardless of its direct effect on American citizens, such a policy could nonetheless be used to improperly strengthen or weaken particular religious communities. It's really not a clear-cut issue at all.
>>6402301
We don't need to protect ourselves from the Government, the day of monarchs in the west is over. Also if the government were to be oppressive the "militia" wouldn't stand a chance because of technology.
The need for the second amendment was reasonable at the times of the founders where everyone basically had the same means of weaponry. It's archaic and outdated now and just plain stupid.
>>6402302
Yes it does. See Demore v. Kim.
>>6402293
>changing the Bill of Rights
Enjoy your speech codes, warrantless searches and seizures, lack of habeus corpus, and double jeopardy.
>>6402288
Right, but two of those were purely the work of the supreme court, which doesn't answer to the president. It's a little farfetched to give credit for those to Obama, especially when he completely ignored us for his entire first term.
>>6402293
You really don't. Setting precedent for eliminating things from the Bill of Rights is not going to take us anywhere we want to go.
>>6402311
I agree
let the Supreme Court decide
>>6402322
If he weren't elected Sonya Sotomayor and Elena Kagan wouldn't be on that court, and if McCain was elected instead we very may well have had a different ruling. So yes he had direct involvement in the Supreme Court decision. He put two of the pro gay justices there.
>>6402322
Obama nominated 40% of the people responsible for making those decisions that overturned those laws, so yes, he is responsible for it. That's one of the most important roles of the president, and we already have a spot open. Trump's list of judges includes someone who wants to make sodomy in your own home illegal, and ALL of them want to overturn Oberfell v. Hodges
>>6402315
>Demore v. Kim
>The court upheld, 5 to 4, the strict rules of the 1996 immigration law, which mandates detention of immigrants who have committed certain crimes even as those immigrants challenge their deportation.
cool limited domain of actionable consequence bro. doesn't mean shit in this context
>>6402164
There's no evidence of this. Just misinformation
>>6402302
>The United States Constitution applies to citizens of other countries
Want to know how I know you're a fucking retard?
>>6402310
>well organized
You mean well-regulated, and no, they do not mean the same thing. You should also really look up what is meant by "Militia", according to the law. I'll give you a hint: you are probably part of a militia.
>>6402312
>We don't need to protect ourselves from the Government, the day of monarchs in the west is over.
You are hopelessly naive if you think monarchies are the only governments interested in exploiting and marginalizing their own people.
>Also if the government were to be oppressive the "militia" wouldn't stand a chance because of technology.
The thing about waging war against your own citizens is that it isn't quite as cut and dry as waging war against a foreign entity. If you use drones or tanks that means the destruction of your own country's infrastructure. You also have to contend with the fact that not everyone in the military is just going to go along with the idea of disarming 80 million US citizens by force, especially since most of them probably come from families that have gun owners. And of course, at the end of the day, any government doesn't want to govern a mountain of corpses.
This is to say nothing of how the rest of the world would react of the US started slaughtering its own people in the name of "making the country safer for everyone".
In the end, all Gun Control does is consolidate firearms into the hands of criminals, law-enforcement, and the military. You might notice that all three of those groups don't have a good record when it comes to lgbt. Firearms are a force equalizer. They allow the weak (crippled, women, the unfit) and the marginalized (lgbt) to defend themselves against the strong and the powerful.
Armed gays don't get bashed.
>>6402359
He was a regular at the bar for at least three years and was on multiple gay dating apps. The media keeps pushing the ISIS angle because it gets more page views
>>6402312
Then this needs to be part of the conversation for gun control. If there's truly no hope for the citizenry to resist a corrupt government, that's a pretty scary place for us to be as a society. Things like the Snowden documents, the McCarthy era, and Hoover's FBI show us that government cannot be trusted with unchecked power. If the government is not ultimately checked by the potential for its citizens to successfully conduct a revolution, then what keeps it from going completely off the rails?
>>6402364
Assad seems to be doing a pretty good job of keeping his people down.
Queen Hillary will reign as our American Queen, and the whole world will bow before her.
As a small closeted gay boy living among homophobic Christians in a backwoods hick town in the Catskills, I was always terrified that the world would remain this way. That was, until my true mother, Hillary became First Lady. As I grew through the 90s and watched her grow with me, I realized she truly was not only my mother, but the mother to all of us of whom share the same energy. I met her personally in 2001, while she was serving her first term as a NY Senator. I met her again during her campaign during re-election, where I also voted for her in this bid for re-election as a NY senator. Later, I voted for her in the NY Primary during the 2008 election, and this past April (2016). And I will vote for her in November as the American President, the 45th, and 1st female reigning matriarch of America, may the Gods bless our Queen!
>>6402368
What is wrong with you niggas, why is it EITHER OR, and not a combination of being both a self hating gay and a durkah durkah ISIS retard.
>>6402364
>Armed gays don't get bashed
Yeah, they just commit suicide. The number one agitator in committing suicide is whether or not someone owns a gun
>>6402376
Please tell me this is pasta and you didn't just type that diarrhea out yourself
>>6402364
Pink Pistols are rad as hell. Wish we had a chapter in my area.
>>6402377
Yeah he watched ISIS videos and that was what made him more extreme but the homophobia was the root cause. Also he was born in America so Trump's ban wouldn't have done anything to stop him
>>6402379
And the solution to that is not to disarm 80 million people who have committed no crime. The solution is greater emphasis on mental health care and continuing to normalize homosexuals in the cultural framework so that they do not feel ostracized from society.
>>6402379
that's their choice to make
>>6402379
The majority of gun owners don't kill themselves of harm others. What you're talking about is an issue of our mental health system failing people who need help. It is not a gun issue.
>>6402406
no, that would be unwise.
but the bouncers could of been armed
>>6402406
>Or do you think it's good idea for a bunch of drunk gays dancing in the club to be holding concealed guns?
There are already laws against drinking and carrying a firearm, just as there are laws against drinking and driving. However, along those same lines, I would not be opposed to the idea of "designated concealed carriers". The easier solution, of course, would be to just station more armed security guards.
>>6402395
This. We really have no screening system for mental illness, and health insurance tends to be a lot shittier about paying for treatment for it than for physical ailments. Right now, we pretty much just rely on the more destructive classes of crazy people eventually making their way to prison, where they get to spend all their time with other violent crazy people. This doesn't work well with people whose first majorly crazy action is to go kill a bunch of people and then themselves.
>>6402434
No. But that's the thing, isn't it? If someone has a gun, wouldn't you rather it be you than an untrustworthy stranger on the street?
>>6402434
You're thinking too deep. There are plenty of states full of concealed carriers. Some states, like Arizona, let you carry no matter what. No permit needed. They're not in some kind of civil arms race. Guns really aren't the problem. What are made out to be gun issues are really just issues with crime in certain socioeconomic levels and issues in the way our mental health care system works.
>>6401935
How did this thread devolve into a debate about guns so quickly?
I'm so tired of hearing about the second amendment.
>>6402434
sure.
I can safely assume they are just another citizen like me who just wants some kind of protection.
of course they could always be one of those trigger happy doofs who are so quick to show off their skills or dish out some justice and get someone hurt or worse.
although that possibly could be lessened by mandating people take classes on how to properly handle a gun and treat it with the seriousness any firearm needs to be treated with.
>>6401935
most gay people are generally as dumb and susceptible to propaganda as the general population
>>6402434
>Do you?
Yes, I do. I wouldn't trust them with my own life, mind you, but by and large I trust them not to just go spontaneously crazy and start shooting everyone in sight, because those that do are in a statistical minority. There are over 80 million legal gun owners in this country and many of them carry around guns at all times without incident. Most of them will never even be in a situation where they are forced to shoot another person, either in defense of themselves or someone else.
You are allowing fear to cloud your judgment in light of facts that run contrary to what you believe to be true.
>>6402450
You wouldn't be hearing about it if it wasn't consistently under attack.
>>6402443
I would prefer to assume that neither of us have a gun. I don't want to have to train myself to use a gun and invest in it in order to feel safe going outside. That's retarded
>>6402480
it's a cliche
but some criminals would still get their hands on guns
>>6402480
And I'd prefer to have something to even the odds when someone bigger and stronger than I am decides that the goddamn faggot needs to learn a lesson. Though, maybe you live in a more accepting area than I do.
>>6402480
>I don't want to have to train myself to use a gun and invest in it in order to feel safe going outside.
Try being a woman in certain parts of the country. It has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with physical vulnerability. Access to a firearm is the only thing that realistically allows a 100lb woman to fend off a much larger, stronger potential rapist.
>>6402515
>These are proven to be just as effective.
Source?
>>6402459
You mean if the NRA wasn't constantly shilling the issue.
The things you idiots don't realize is that Trump and Hillary would have the same exact result on guns because the congress is and will remain hopelessly deadlocked on the issue.
Discussing this is entirely moot, let's talk about issues that Hillary or Trump might actually accomplish something on. All this talk of guns is just verbal masturbation.
>>6402527
No because this country is so retarded about guns that the CDC is legally not allowed to study gun violence
>>6402543
Well then don't say "proven".
>>6402515
>pepper spray
>tasers
>just as effective
This is a little hard to believe. Source?
>stun gun
If I were going to let an attacker get this close, I might as well just pack a knife. Remember kids, the fastest way to a man's heart is through his stomach, in an upward stabbing motion that avoids the rib cage and doesn't give him a chance to defend himself with his arms.
>>6402542
>let's talk about issues that Hillary or Trump might actually accomplish something on.
Immigration and border security?
>>6402543
wh-why would they?
they're the center for DISEASE control.
unless there is something I am missing.
and what does that have to do with your claim that pepper spray, stun guns and tasers are just as effective?
>>6402566
It's weird, but yeah, studying this would fall to them, just like deaths from vehicle accidents and a dozen other things that aren't actually diseases.. They're really more about anything that affects health than disease per se.
>>6402515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruVntOd9WNo
Pepper spray will just make people more angry at you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPHBnAl1BlU
>tasers
>effective
>>6402578
I'm glad the police just stood there and let this guy go.
>>6402595
It's Canadian police, in America the guy would have been shot.
>>6402604
I mean I wouldn't want him shot unless it was necessary either.
but him knowing they had lethal weapons probably would of gotten him to comply. otherwise you end up with what happened. He's just gonna run because he took 3 taser shots. what else are you gonna possibly throw at him?
>>6402617
This is why I think it's necessary for cops to have guns or at least guns with rubber bullets to pack more of a punch than a taser.
>>6402247
>You do know his ban applies to American Muslims traveling abroad, right?
"""American""" Muslims are not aliens by law, and would not be affected by any ban of Muslim aliens.
>>6402634
rubber bullets make a lot of sense to me honestly.
maybe cops could carry like, one or two mags of lethal ammo but keep rubber ones loaded
>>6402702
Cops usually have a partner with them, so one cop should carry lethal ammo loaded and the other should carry non-lethal loaded.
Problem solved
>>6402362
much of it applies to immigrants, even undocumented/illegals
>>6402026
Go away Hillbot.
>>6402715
tfw I read this in Chris Christie's voice
>>6402018
Could you imagine if Trump got a lesbian as his running mate? Someone like Dick Cheney's daughter. They would be unstoppable. A lesbian VP is WAY bigger than a cis het shitlord woman president IMO.
>>6402819
Don't they have to actually be here first?
>>6402846
I think that if he went that far he'd alienate the evangelicals that are voting for him in larger numbers than the gays.
Trump's best bet is to have a woman as his running mate.
>>6402890
But who would be a good fit?
Please no Sarah Palin.
>>6402894
There are some female senators that get talked up for the VP pick. No one that really sticks out though.
Except Condi Rice I guess, but let's keep the cabal away from the Presidency.
>>6402717
There's an attachment that goes over a handgun (currently available only for Glocks, but 60% of police departments use Glocks) that makes the first shot less lethal (the proper term for rubber bullets, since they can kill) and lets the officer fire lethal ammunition after the first shot. The first shot is caught by a rubber sleeve thing and becomes less lethal and then the gun will fire normally. It is the best solution, really.
>>6402017
This. This is the only reason she will win. The DNC could nominate a golden retriever to run against Trump, and we'd have our first Canine-American president.
>>6402987
But then how would they quickly put down criminals?
>>6403335
pull the trigger twice. Or just mag dump like they do now.
>>6402164
When committing jihad Muslims have to identify themselves as committing jihad in the middle of the attack.
That's why the murderer called 911, the Washington Post, and texted his wife during the massacre.
>>6402018
Green Party candidate Jill Stein covers a lot of those except for pro-gun.
>>6402434
Sure.
Then again, ever since San Bernardino there's been designated concealed carriers at my work that carry guns all the time. Just in case a crazy ISIS supporter decides to go on a rampage.
>>6401935
All of the gay men I know hate that bitch.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/trump-suggests-overturning-same-sex-marriage.html
are all the people saying Trump is pro-lgbt retarded or just trolling?
>>6402846
holy shit her face creeps me out, it's like looking at butch dick cheney
>>6401935
She's a cunt. If I lived in the States I'd vote Trump.
I hope any fag that votes for her gets their very own Orlandowning.
>>6402116
>Hilldawg actually has great positions and policies
Yeah, like importing and protecting people who have no problem with killing you
>>6402164
>Muslim kills gay people
>NO A GAY KILLED GAYS IT WAS THE GAYS ALL ALONG
I refuse to drink the liberal Kool-Aid. I honestly hope you're murdered by a Muslim and any female in your life is raped by Muslims.
>>6402379
>You can't have a gun because you might shoot yourself. I want to take your gun so somebody else kills you instead of you.
REMINDER: LIBERALS ARE NOT ALLIES TO LGBT. THEY WOULD SEE YOU ALL BURN BEFORE EVEN A SINGLE HAIR IS TOUCHED ON A MUSLIM.
>>6401935
A bitch president is progressive. Gotta look progressive at all costs. A vote for Shillary is another of my own farts that I can huff.
>>6401935
Because most gays have mommy issues.
>>6403576
Nah
He's just lying anon.
Whenever he says contradictory things I disagree with he is just playing to his base like all politicans do. Even though his whole campaign is centered around not being a politican lel ex dee
>>6404667
Trump clearly has a history of being pro-LGBT, moreso than Hillary by a wide margin.
>>6404730
>>6404730
Well yes.
I think it's clear he is just saying the anti-lgbt thing for Christians. But my point is he can't bullshit and say he isn't a politican and then do all the crap assosicated with being one.
And he contradicts himself on so many things it gets less clear cut then with gay rights. He lies just like crooked Hillary.
Many gay people are depressed.
Depressed people are prone to nihilism.
>>6402071
>Pro LGBT
>Along with her best friends the saudi royal family
Brand Recognition.
Hillary didn't want us to get married until polls told to.
>>6404667
The leaked Democrat strategy for taking down Trump involves just calling him 'liar' and letting social media push that narrative.
>>6403700
It's shocking how quickly democrats threw lgbt people under the bus after Orlando. When a registered democrat muslim shot and killed 50 innocent people, and hitlary comes out and says happy Ramadan and Muslims are our friends. Fuck that heartless cunt.
The second she lets in millions of Muslims into America and they become a bigger voting block than us, hitlary will bend over backwards to give Muslims everything they want even if it means pushing women and lgbt rights back 50 years
Dude the candidates are so fucking awful I can't even be mad at anyone who supports either. It's like choosing whether you want to drown or freeze to death.
That being said I'm voting Clinton because I'd worry less about the congress and the supreme court if we have a democratic executive, and I think having Trump as president will decimate any respect other countries and their leaders have for us, which makes me REAL nervous. I also tend to favor democrats track record on decisions for education and environmentalism, which are big ones for me as far as keeping US as a world power over the next century or so.
Don't get me wrong, on LGBT issues I think both sides have their pros and cons. I think trump will throw us under the bus the second it benefits him, and you're a fucking idiot if you don't realize that. Even if I'm not voting for him, the biggest thing he's got going for him is he's not afraid to crack a few eggs to get an omelette, even if it means screwing some people over. And Hilary is the opposite- She won't throw us under the bus directly, but without keeping immigration in check we'll be screwed by muslim culture anyway- Not that I agree with trump's extremism, either.
I'll admit I tend to be really biased toward education though. To me poor education is the root of the majority of america's problems, but it gets neglected most because the negative effects aren't immediate.
Even though I hate most Trump supporters because most I've met are ignorant assclowns, I understand how we got where we are, and why people would vote for him. People are desperate, so they're willing to cling to anyone promising change- whether or not those people know how they're going to achieve that change, or what it will cost. On both sides. People aren't voting for Trump, just like most dumb college kids weren't voting Bernie. They're voting for an idea.
also, importance wise
congress >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president
and its congress' fault we are where we're at.
>>6405013
I mean...are you saying he isn't a liar?
>>6405082
>$0.05 has been deposited into your account.
>>6405082
>and I think having Trump as president will decimate any respect other countries and their leaders have for us
They have no respect for us. That's exactly why I'm voting Trump, because he's blatantly called them out for their lack of respect (despite the fact that they depend on us to play international policeman when it behooves them to do so).
