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▶ Trans Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
▶ Beginner makeup resources: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶ Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶ Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
▶ HRT info: https://web.archive.org/web/0000000000000/http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶ Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶ IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
▶ Zeemaps: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968
old >>6399062
>>6400456
THAT PICTURE
>>6400459
how would you do that?
>>6400453
ohhh, omg, im sorry. that actually upset me i thought you were calling me one. im a little slow today desu. and im no psychologyst so i cant say any of that for sure, im just guessing. there could be any number of reasons why you want to be trans, im really not sure. i think if you really want to be a girl you should go for it, but idk. i guess if you want to be sure, or at least closer to being sure, you should see a therapist. im sorry youre feeling this way though, i wish i could help in some way...i hope whatever path you choose works out for you.
>>>/wsg/1127550
I wish my hair was this long ;_;
I want to be a cis girl ;_;
Check out my new qt bf /mtfg/
>>6400456
wow, as an (occasional)intj I cringed.
>>6400466
by just walking up to staring people and be like "yo why ya staring m8"
then sacrifice myself to prevent the cornered lesbian menace from getting to you
>>6400483
oha D:
LEWD!
>>6400483
larry how does it feel to be a man with a vagina?
>>6400456
INTJs are INTPs with severe autism.
>at CVS
>buying new highlighter and brush
>wearing white frilly skirt, full face of makeup (pic related), tons of jewelry
>lots of people behind me in line
>pay and start to walk away
>Clerk: [loudly] Sir! Sir! You have to sign!!
I have put so much effort into my transition and I am just tired. Every time I get misgendered I meltdown and cry and shitpost and drink a lot and eventually I pick myself back up and keep trying harder. I can't fucking do it anymore. My life is a joke, I'm an abomination, and I hate myself.
>inb4 photoshop troll anon steals my pic and posts it all over /lgbt/ and /soc/ with a gross caption
>>6400479
I don't think that's the kinda company you want to hang out with
>>6400479
oh honey you're overdoing it on the makeup and your feet are so huge they look like clown shoes. your bf looks p gay and plain desu
>>6400470
>there could be any number of reasons why you want to be trans
Because trans girls get to cure at least a part of their suffering by transitioning, but not-trutrans get to stay men and hate themselves forever lmao~
Thanks though, and I hope your path goes somewhere good too!
>tfw no bf
>>6400479
I didn't know Ronald McDonald was a chaser
>>6400492
feeling pretty good about my vagina
still wish I was a man tho :(
>>6400476
so what does this mean for my orgasm potential?
>>6400479
You look like a duuuuude!
>>6400495
how the fuck
Who is the best FFS surgeon and why is it Bart?
>>6400504
With or without SRS?
>>6400455
Same here. I'm sad because uni was my last chance to make friends. now I will have to hide away as a weird looking freak
>>6400495
It was probably your card dummeh, you're not an abomination!
>>6400512
... both?
>>6400517
My card has my girl name on it
>>6400495
>tfw even this got sir'd
HOW THE FUCK DOES ANYONE PASS?
>>6400495
ow wow. fuck that teller. are you ok?
>>6400516
I made friends in high school, and one of them has been kinda supportive of my transition. I kinda wish more were, but hey, I've got one. He's also going to the same uni I am.
>>6400520
idk then, maybe they had an extra sensitive tranny-dar? Or maybe it was voice or smt?
You shouldn't give up after getting this far though, that'd be a gigantic waste :c
>>6400520
What's your voice like?
>>6400519
Well, until you get it, it should still be possible albeit without ejaculation after a good while on AAs. After SRS, you should be able to get clitoridian orgasms at the very least. Possibly prostatic ones if your vagina is deep enough. And some surgeons build a second nerve cluster to provide a G-spot analogue.
Can't say about pleasure, though, you'll have to ask someone else.
>>6400531
No. I don't know what to do anymore
>dress for my clocky man body
>get plastic surgery
>take voice lessons
>wear makeup every day
I am just fucking done
are you sexist /mtfg/???
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/are-you-sexist-take-this-quiz/
>tfw you just don't wish he would chill out and mature so when I move back to portland there's no drama
>>6400528
Well, I never get Sir'd if that's any consolation.
should I kill myself tho?
>>6400554
To be clear the green text is stuff I already do or have done, and I still don't pass
>>6400555
>hostile sexism describes behavior that overtly threatens, intimidates or abuses WOMEN
Sweet irony, a sexism test made by sexists.
>>6400567
>not liking tall girls
for shame. they are the best.
>>6400455
>I'm transitioning through uni...
Nice.
I'm not sure if my uni has programs or anything to help trans people transition, but I think they probably don't. I never bothered to look into it though. I've just been self-medding. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>I'm going to be on month 8 of HRT by the time I start my fourth semester
Oh, so that means you'll have been on hrt for like 3 years by the time you graduate, right?
Good for you. I wish I had started that early.
But yeah, I've seen people here say that uni is a great time to transition, since uni students tend to be more liberal / accepting than people in "the real world". So my hope is that I can use the time I have left at uni to break through that weird "obvious tranny that doesn't pass as either gender" stage, and into fulltime girlmode.
>>6400479
You went to MD? How was it?
>>6400567
>tfw average female height in central europe is 5'7
chart is only accurate for the third world
>>6400587
doesn't really save me at 6'2
>>6400565
I hope mado punches a hole in your fat disgusting man face
>>6400555
>4 on hostile
>2.33 on benevolent
Oh excuuuse me I don't share your victim complexes mrs. quiz maker.
>>6400567
>was a 5'3" tiny person of indeterminate gender
>take T
>now a 5'10" lumbering beast unused to being trapped in a giant body so constantly clumsy
>stop taking T, take e
>now a 5'10 woman
>told to take T supplements due to being an abomination to my gender
what if u r an abomination in general
>>6400554
Have you got to a full body pic? I don't get why you don't pass? Are you 6'5" or something?
>>6400555
0.67 on hostile sexism and 1.17 on benevolent. But the title is misleading, really. This is only about misogyny, not sexism. I would have scored much higher had there been items looking for misandry.
>>6400552
>>6400600
>And some surgeons build a second nerve cluster to provide a G-spot analogue.
I have this, its pretty good, mostly a question of angle tho!
>>6400565
you know you're only fueling it right
>>6400600
>bait harder
I can't even conceive how that could be interpreted as bait.
>>6400555
this is the most biased quiz I've ever taken. I treat men and women equally, and my answers reflected that, but I'm apparently hostile and sexist towards women, ok.
>>6400567
im 5'11 can we eat painkillers together please
>>6400605
Maddies body is a disaster.
>>6400566
Maybe your socialization theory was true
>>6400558
Why are you bullying us, don't we already hate ourselves enough?
>>6400642
I'm not bullying anyone
>>6400582
>uni is a great time to transition, since uni students tend to be more liberal / accepting than people in "the real world"
>>6400641
whaaaat? You mean to say you believe that going outside will help you fit in?
how absurd!
>>6400639
Ok maybe that's why. Phew my curves save me.
>know that it will be better when I'm transformed into something new
>no one will recognize me after, feel like it is a new start
>parents are old fashioned and didn't have to go through this stress as a result of society being different back then
>they question my motives constantly but I know I'm right
>feel like all of society hates me when I know that there's a lot of people who support what I'm doing
>finally start going through the process after being encouraged by my friends
>they have all transitioned successfully and encourage my own progress
>finally get the courage to transition into the new me
>transforming is difficult at first, as I have difficulty adjusting to my new form
>don't really have a good idea of what I want to look like, and I don't want to just copy my new friends
>come up with idea based on things I've noticed in my new world
>transforming process is happening properly now, I am almost the new me
>finally end up in my new form after much difficulty
>ready to be who I've always wanted to be
>a deadly apache helicopter poised to take out any foolish autobots assembled against the decepticon cause
>all hail megatron
>>6400599
Mado wouldn't lay a finger on me. There's a big difference between talking shit and actually fighting someone. He was about to hit yume and punched a whole in the wall when he was raging out.
besides, you know how I'm 190 pounds but I look 160? There's a reason for that.
>>6400554
Don't give up. Some things are more subtle, but in the long run, you will have them down too. And the progress you've made so far in the looks and voice department is definitely not time wasted. Spend time with female friends. That alone can speed up things a lot without even trying.
>>6400660
***I hit submit before I finished
I know those things are clocky but I have already tried so hard, particularly with my voice. I don't have any more will left
>>6400660
your voice passes for a mute person
>>6400601
how does that mean I have a victim complex
>>6400660
I can't here anything. use vocaroo
>body is clocky
Get fat
>>6400663
I love this copypasta <3
>>6400663
Good for you anon
>>6400555
What a stupid test.
>Do you think women are more superior morally than me
Yeah, they're less likely to be bigotted. This makes me a sexist, because it's just taking an average.
>Do you think women have a purity that few men does
Yep, not super much more, but generally the socialization a woman has is less rough. Sex isn't seen as much of a must.
>Do you think many women get a kick out of cock-teasing?
Yes, obviously, and men probably get a kick out of doing the same. This somehow makes me a sexist.
This test is more of a "do you think women are right, can never do wrong, and are much better than me, but without you mentioning it specifically?" kind of test.
>>6400665
The reason is that you are fat as fuck
>>6400555
what a stupid test, I am amazed someone would actually put that on a page.
>>6400643
misgendering people is bullying, and it's also not funny when people get misgendered in public.
You're bad, anon.
So this morning, my Iphone logged 6 outgoing calls i never made to 2 random ViOP's in south carolina and missouri, I live in NY and i'm positive i never called anyone,,
No one in my house touched my phone and i was asleep all day
WHY /MTFG/ do i have a el cacui
>>6400652
There are some details about passing that influence a lot the first impression people base their gendering on. Mostly non verbal cues. And they're rather hard to reproduce without spending time around other girls. The problem is that this first impression is really hard set. You can have a gorgeous face, D cups and a perfectly feminine voice, if someone has subconsciously tagged you as male looking at you from the back, they may awkwardly correct themselves afterwards but the dissonance certainly won't make the exchange easy.
>>6400690
you probably rolled over it in your sleep or smt
Hi mtfg, how has your day been?
I got outed by a customer today while in boymode. Wasn't even practicing voice.
>tfw woke up
>>6400650
>tfw my area has a very low muslim population
Feels good to be American.
>>6400703
>tfw not dying during sleep
>>6400702
been watching rick and morty and trying not to die of heat exhaustion.
swear to fucking christ the hospital better be fucking air conditioned
>>6400708
someday
>>6400642
Because it brings me joy knowing that maddie and grace cry themselves to sleep. It's nothing less than what you freaks deserve.
Your lives mean nothing to me. If you suicide I would be very pleased and write up another notch on my list
>>6400701
i rolled over it and dialed 2 random numbers 6 times
>>6400708
I honestly wish I could, dysphoria is raping me so hard right now
>>6400703
>>6400708
>tfw not asleep
>>6400698
I saw Sheen at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told her how cool it was to meet her in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother her and ask her for photos or anything.
She said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but she kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing her hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard her chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw her trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in her hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Maam, you need to pay for those first.” At first she kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, Sheen stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, Sheen kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
>>6400715
I dont cry myself to sleep tho, I dont even give a shit when you decide you wanna be an edgy tranny in denial and hate on me here
>>6400717
>>6400711
yep I feel u
>>6400715
edgy xD
>>6400707
>price tag has $ symbol
Shit, I feel dumb now.
Although now I'm curious as to where specifically that picture was taken.
>>6400731
straylia
>>6400687
>misgendering people is bullying
I didn't misgender anyone. I call it like I see it
>it's also not funny when people get misgendered in public
actually it is
>>6400650
I went into repression because my country has 75% transphobia and homophobia in universities, with some cases caused by the lecturers themselves.
It's really not worth it. My dysphoria is minimal and I would rather live a repressed quiet life than waste my time with lgbt and no fear mongering of hondom can convince me otherwise.
Hondom is guaranteed even if I started now. Better to live a comfortable life now and die later.
>>6400726
I wanna go back to sleep but I can't, I need a way to stop dysphoria but the only way I know how is to look into the mirror until I regain hope
>>6400729
No. Cause I'll just move onto the next one lol
>>6400669
Are you the quiz maker or just the person who linked it?
AYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I passed the exam I had last week
>>6400745
I just found it on /pol/ dude
>>6400723
Sure you don't Jason
>>6400734
Oh, ok.
The dollar sign made me think it was an American city that just had really restrictive weapons laws, but straylia makes much more sense.
>>6400479
looks like ronald is an albino who just ate out a chick on her period
>>6400707
>$
How did Americans ever make it to the moon?
>>6400753
>white knight
wat
If anything black knight
>>6400754
What? You think calling me bro, a fake guy name, and saying I have acne is all it takes? What kind of pathetic power complex have you got going on?
>>6400752
No reason to believe you share the victim complex of the person who made the quiz about sexism but only included misogyny in the definition then
>>6400741
What country is this? Sweden?
>>6400764
you seem to think you're doing the right thing no matter what it is
>>6400758
No hon
:)
>>6400753
its the opposite of white knight. pure black knight. its more 'hahaha yes, causing people misery soothes my own twisted soul. cry, transsexuals, cry, because i am the one in control here and i can make you hate yourselves more than i hate myself! all is right with the world!'
>>6400768
sorry I just kind of instantly internalize negative things said in my direction even if if I took a second to think about it Id realise it wasnt directed at me
>>6400749
Grats!
>>6400778
Hahaha what the fuck is this shit
Are you 12
>>6400770
A part of the UK, deceptively leftist on paper, but brutally rightist in practice
>>6400784
no but i think the troll is
>>6400778
bullshit, it just seems like a front you're putting up
you really just want people to like you for being brutally honest to everyone you talk to
>>6400779
Aw I'm sorry, I guess I could have worded it better to avoid misunderstandings.
>>6400793
i'm not the troll damn it, i'm just saying what i think his mindset is goddamn can't you tell. oh i haven't got my trip on ok
>>6400743
oh iktf, I end up sleeping A LOT all the time as well :<
a mirror never gave me hope though
>>6400782
thanks <3
>>6400710
I'm sorry to hear that. There's no AC here either, but by some insanity it has been 68 degrees in the desert.
>>6400799
I don't really have time to sleep but they are the best moments in life now ;_;
Mirrors are a roll of the dice, if I look in it and feel crap I just have the urge to cry or self-harm, but on the off chance I look in it and see myself in a good light, dysphoria p much goes away momentarily
>full face
>half face
>beard
>full face and neck
Looking at laser treatments, what's the difference here?
>>6400798
oh
you were just the only one that replied to the replies on that post, so I was a bit confused
>>6400456
>works at the krusty krab
>>6400814
I've found mirrors to be a good reality check when my self-hate somehow comes back, yeah.
>>6400814
>but on the off chance I look in it and see myself in a good light
wow that never happens for me, I am pretty jelly desu.
>>6400814
I feel you exactly, looking in the mirror will either completely ruin my day or just make it slightly better. I just try to avoid them as much as I can.
>>6400785
Scotland?
>>6400832
>Would love to lock you in a mirrored room
doesnt really change anything, mirrors reflect reality, they dont make me more ugly
>>6400814
I really like my bathroom mirror because the lighting from the window catches everything feminine about my face pretty well
when I turn on the lights, it starts to look male again
>>6400832
Oh so we have downgraded from crying to being a minor annoyance? No wonder you're stuck trolling mtfg you have no fucking ambition
holy shit holy shit holy shit
this is the best fucking video ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=150&v=ja2Wdz_3zsQ
>>6400826
>reality
haha I don't even know what that is anymore
>>6400827
It's very rare for me but it really helps though, especially not seeing myself as a wide af hon
However the longer I go on and the more features I find that I hate about myself the harder it is to find something good about myself
>>6400828
I think I'm obsessed at this point, I constantly check myself in reflections, mirrors, phones cameras, etc hoping to find myself looking good so I can feel happy
>>6400848
duh
he's not good enough to troll /b/ or /pol/ so he comes here to piss off easy targets
>>6400668
>>6400674
https://clyp.it/w2e0f2qt
>4 months of voice therapy
>2 different vocal coaches
also body shot
>wide ribcage
>disproportionately large shoulders
>man hands
ok im gonna stop posting about this now. idek. just let me die
Why does nobody argue with me anymore? I haven't changed. Not that I'm complaining, it's just odd. I only returned to post that programme but everyone was being nice to me so I stayed.
today i strive w/futility to be cute
>>6400822
You want full face and neck, really. Full face won't get you rid of your beard, half face is that minus stray hair you might have on your cheekbones and brow. Beard is self-explanatory... So for your first sessions, you have to get everything done.
The hardiest part will most likely be your upper lip. I'm rid of dark hair almost everywhere, except there plus a few small spots on the sides and below my mouth. The touchups I get are just half face.
>>6400860
>Overcast is best
actually, this is true even when I'm not looking at my reflection
>>6400863
the futile part is you're already cute and you don't need to strive!
Do I pass?
>>6400866
So 6/8 treatment package of full face+neck and then see where I am after that
if you reply to this post you'll wake up as a cutie tomorrow
>>6400900
i really need this
>>6400859
U pass desu
>>6400900
yes yes yes pls
>>6400900
pls
>>6400891
>They are my allies :)
>allies
No honor among 4channers, amigo
You are alone in this as you are in life
Stop repressing and transition already, maybe you can finally get some friends when you stop being a massive tool
>>6400900
Reply
>>6400859
Your voice is great. It's your face and body. Your shoulders are wider than your hips and your jaw is quite large. I remember you, I called you juicy lol. Juicy is good. It's a mystery as to why it hasn't gone to your hips though. If hormones can't do anything more then surgery is the answer. You can compensate for the shoulders by making your hips bigger somehow. I'm sure there's surgery for that.
>>6400891
because it's more satisfying to know you can troll your friends than it is to troll emotionally broken people
>>6400916
butte implants desu
>>6400900
>being this desperate i give into 4chan superstition
>>6400900
good luck Jesus mayne
https://clyp.it/wx04lbtf
how is my potential job voice?
>>6400925
I thought those just made the back bigger? Do they also improve the sides?
>>6400931
southern
>>6400931
you sound like you're 40 and have diabetes
>>6400931
Sounds good. Is that really the voice of a Nazi?
>>6400933
http://www.bodyimplants.com/hip-implants.html
i guess i meant hip implants but ye
>>6400934
You're welcome
ufufu bless me with a pic
i must relieve myself
>>6400946
>$6,000
Good thing I'm
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Is the username Isotera feminine enough to pass, or should I start shifting it to Iriseil?
>>6400957
wait
are you the REAL
S
H
A
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A
?
Please reply to this post with a picture of yourself and my penis will decide if you pass.
Thank you.
>>6400963
It's a possibility.
>>6400968
why not post a picture of yourself and see what the feminine penises here think of you.
>>6400971
Question:
Do your hips lie?
y/n
>tfw never have motivation to do anything after work
Only 2 more weeks till I'm done with this job forever
Also are there any other voice resources besides the one in the op?
>>6400900
p-pls
>>6400968
>>6400968
im this anime
>>6400960
Esoteric
>>6400975
this desu
>>6400968
i'm the bird
bravely second is so freaking fun <3
>>6400988
nice glasses
>>6400984
my general-use username is Isotera.
I know it's based on the word esoteric.
Is it feminine?
>tfw neet loser
>>6400988
So cute. The girl is alright too I guess.
>>6400900
pls work
>>6401004
>please abuse me :3
are you fat?
>>6400990
scots are retarded, theres a reason england has fought them so many times over the centuries.
>>6401008
Revolting even with the filter
>>6401009
nope!
i-i could get fat if that'd help
>>6400988
fat nerd in glasses and wig/ 10
>>6400968
>>6400994
well if that's how you want to play, little dog, so fucking be it
i'm a kike not a spic
>>6400934
Oh I don't know. Maybe it has something to do with that Y chromosome, shitty voice and man body and the fact you don't pass you disgusting fucking HON
>>6401014
>i-i could get fat if that'd help
please don't now how do I go about molesting you
>>6401019
this is what i've already been saying u braindead faggot. jfc
>>6401018
Your drawn on eyebrows say otherwise
i want to be held by a qt until i fall asleep and then die while im sleeping
>>6401015
I'm not fat and that's not a wig lol
my measurements are 36/28/40
hey friends.
>>6401032
privyet
>>6401026
your drawn on attempts of masculinity say otherwise. step your game up, little dog. i'm pretty much perfect
>>6401031
>I'm not fat
>my measurements are 36/28/40
>I'm not fat
keep telling yourself that
>>6401016
PUREST FORM OF LOVE
how do i transition into an acorn if im acornkin
>>6400993
it beats Ambrose Cadwell thats for sure
>>6401043
>Scots invented TV
Never forgive them
pooooooooooooooooooooool
http://www.strawpoll.me/10504588
http://www.strawpoll.me/10504588
http://www.strawpoll.me/10504588
>>6401032
hiya!
>>6401041
>hon resorts to his natural attempt to masculinity
It's sad because your body is pathetic in terms of muscle mass.
>>6401043
I have a "anything but cis males" sexuality
>>6401056
pool?!
>>6401056
or C. Special Snowflake
>>6401047
svidaniya
>>6400931
qt
are you working at a legit call center or like a sex line?
>>6400988
hi flanel
>>6401070
kayla doesn't work anywhere, ever
>>6401068
speak american u terrorist
>>6401073
no I'm the bird
>>6401057
try harder weakling, careful don't exert yourself too much. that last bout of the keyboard sweats was almost fatal
i want to hug maddie
>>6401081
du bist entstellt und du bist hasslich
Who is the most passable trip?
>>6401087
________^^^^^^^^
Tfw you're teaching trans women how to do simple makeup
Easy money yo
>>6401087
anon
>>6401085
back the fuck off you cunt she's mine
>>6401089
btw for someone who isn't you that's supposed to point to the (You) not my name lol
>>6401087
honestly it have to be frenchfry or kuroneko
>>6401083
Yawn. I'm sure we would all love to hear you tryhard stories of those "pakis you totally beat up"
>>6401092
>she
baka
>tfw don't pass at all
how do you deal with this i want to die
