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49 people were killed because someone hated gay men and shot up a gay bar.

Mainstream news doesn't want to call him a bigot because he's muslim. Fuck this shit, I'm buying a gun and voting for Trump in November.
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>>6384285
i mean, how hard is it to look through current threads before posting a new one?
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>Mainstream news doesn't want to call him a bigot because he's muslim
Too many people believe that being Muslim automatically makes you a bigot, and Christians pushing "freedom of religion" want us to believe that religion is a justification for intolerance.
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>>6384300
>I simply cannot tolerate these people having the freedom to tolerate what they choose nonviolently.
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>>6384300
>this guy literally kills people because of his muslim beliefs
>damn christians pushing intolerance

I know /lgbt/ typically hates christfags but what the fuck is wrong with you? No christfag would shoot up a gay bar in this day and age.

Not to mention you've got things like the Gay Christian Network out there.
https://www.gaychristian.net/faq.php
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>wahhh they won't say my buzzwords
>I'm voting trump

Mainstream media has condemned these attacks they have gone ad nauseam about how the killing of these people was a hate crime, racist, homophobic, radical etc and you get upset because they don't call him a bigot, even though the verbal slaying and dragging of the attacker is better and a lot more satisfying than saying bigot.

Go ahead and vote for Trump. It's not like he's going to win anyway.
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>>6384340
Y'know, they said that Trump couldn't win the Republican Primary.
Then he won.
Now they're saying he can't win the Presidency.

And his opponent has gone on record against same-sex marriage time and time again and has only started saying she's our ally because she wants votes.
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>>6384340
We've got gay marriage now and we don't need to pay lip service to the Democrats anymore. Why would I vote for Clinton?
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>>6384354
And she's still a better candidate than him. I'm not even a democrat. I despise Trump so much. He is a despicable human being. Trump flip flops as much as her, but at least she has a semblance of a brain unlike that egotistical man child.
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>>6384358
I can tell you don't pay attention to politics and the GOP field just by this sentence alone. You're a Trump baby.
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>>6384329
Obviously it's possible to be a Christian ally but you can't pretend that some Christians aren't arguing that being forbidden to discriminate against LGBT people is an infringement on their "religious beliefs."
And I don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of people think that the easiest, fairest way to protect LGBTs from Muslim bigotry would be to just exile all Muslims from the United States.
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>>6384361
She's such a better candidate than Trump that when she makes appearances on TV her numbers actually go down. Which is why the media covers Trump 24/7 and hardly covers her.

Hillary shill, fuck off.
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>>6384285
>the news didn't call a murderer a bigot
>so I will vote for a bigot

Gay logic.
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>>6384367
Note that the way Christians discriminate against us is by refusing us service. Not killing us with guns or throwing us off the top of buildings.

I'll take being excluded over being killed.
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>>6384285
hes not a biggot, he is a islamic terrorist
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>>6384300
>Muslims actively genociding gays

But truly it is the bastard Christians and their cake withholding sorcery!

Man, some people will leap a fucking volcano to not question Islam.
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>>6384367
>Implying it isn't.

But more importantly, wanting to close borders to Muslim immigrants isn't a violation of any constitutional right. Noncitizen Muslims have no first amendment protection and certainly aren't owed entry into the nation. Unforunately, since taqiya is a thing, you have a religion that allows lying about its affiliation or one's possibly extremism when at risk of being outed for it. The only reasonable means of handling that from an immigration standpoint is to just outright deny those most statistically likely to be Muslim from entry.
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>>6384381
>Trump wants a secure southern border
>He's a bigot

Liberal logic.
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>>6384372
Wrong

https://www.scribd.com/doc/315612407/NBC-News-SurveyMonkey-Toplines-and-Methodology-6-6-6-12

http://www.wflx.com/story/32200837/donald-trump-makes-campaign-stop-in-tampa

but what can I expect from Trump supporters..
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>>6384285
That's not true we know he's a bigot what I've seen is they're reporting it like he's a domestic terrorist
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>>6384388
>>6384382

Nice straw man
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this was a case of gay-on-gay crime, though.
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>>6384413
Neither one of those links proved me wrong
dumbass
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>>6384435
Gay Muslim kills gay men
But it's gay on gay crime!
Because gay men are always killing each, don'tcha know?
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>>6384437
You must have gone to public school, if you literally cannot read
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>>6384391
But Mateen was a US citizen. How does that fit into your theory that we can just send all the Muslims back and keep them out?
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>>6384437
Why do all the worst shitposters on this board avatarfag? I mean you're not as bad as the "daily reminder homophobia is misandry" guy but step it up senpai.
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>>6384388
>Christians are only refusing to bake cakes for gay weddings
>They're not trying to keep trans people out of bathrooms, discrediting the medical evidence in favor of trans-affirming medical care,
arguing that trans people are dangerous, calling their inclusion in public life an "experiment"
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>Hillbot doing the whole "GUNS R BAD" routine and all those braindead followers (her fake accounts) lapping it up
LOL
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now that we know he's one of you guys don't you owe the muzzies an apology for all the nastyness?
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>FBI proescuted war criminal talks about FBI
my sides
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>>6384511
Nope. Asshole was still Muslim and killed people because of his religion.
At least Christfags are criticizing this shit, unlike other Muslims.
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>>6384300
Libtard detected.
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>>6384884
Stop lying, I'm in no way pro muslim, but to say that there aren't muslims criticizing the attacks is a lie

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/floridas-muslim-community-reacts-to-orlando-nightclub-shooting

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3638091/We-sickened-heartbroken-Muslim-leaders-condemn-Orlando-gay-club-attack-express-support-LGBT-community.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/lgbt-muslims-orlando/486923/
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>>6384927
Libtard detected
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>>6384898
>>6384932
Name caller detected. Come back with an argument
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>>6384285
Just call him a Muslim. That says enough.
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>>6384300
>BUT CHRISTIANS

I hope you and every single person that defends Islam is murdered by a Muslim.
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And last sunday /lgbt/ claimed they weren't muslim apologists unlike reddit
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>>6384285
They're still looking into what the motive was. Officially, it's NOT because he identified himself as a follower of ISIS.
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>>6385521
The true motive was toxic masculinity!
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436560/planned-parenthood-outreach-group-blames-orlando-attack-toxic-masculinity
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>>6385580

There are no words
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>>6384285
Go back to /pol/
This is a pretty obvious false flag
You trying to exploit this tragedy to increase support for your political movement is pretty fucking disgusting
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>>6384486
We're talking about gay and lesbian people here, not mentally deranged men wearing dresses and insisting everyone see them as women when they're clearly not.
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>>6384340

>It's not like he's going to win anyway.
>Says increasingly nervous man for the fiftieth time this year.
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>Voting for someone who wants to take guns away from the people, including those who need them the most.

So long as the Democrats push gun control, I cannot support them, even if the alternative is voting for people who don't particularly like me or people like me.

Not that that applies for this election, as Trump has a history of being socially liberal and pro-lgbt.
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>>6384300
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>using the word bigot

It's just me or these are the most unpleasant people to be around?
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>>6386948
Trump has a history of being pro-LGBT.
Hillary has a history of being anti-LGBT.

Think the choice is pretty obvious.
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>>6387057
Not when they're using the word correctly. But no news organization is going to call this guy a bigot because he's an Allahfag
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>>6384426
Don't have a way to get around that argument.
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>>6384285
people who have the intention to shoot up a place usually check it out before committing their crime
same goes with bank robbers/other armed robberies

he was not gay, he was a pure asshole
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>>6387279
No where in the OP is it mentioned that he's gay. But he is still a bigot.
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>>6384426
It's not a strawman when sharia law, which devout Muslims follow, dictates that gay people are to be executed for the crime of being gay.

Which 10 countries still practice to this day.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/
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>>6387448
You're not supposed to troll outside of /b/. Poor taste, anon.
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>mfw gays are beginning to realize they are losing their protected status with SJW's / radical leftists

islam is already replacing you as the new special snowflake, just like every other group before you you no longer serve a purpose to the left. dont forget that the EU predicts 20% of europe will be muslim by 2050.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTdm7k7t9Hs

WHY AM I ALWAYS RIGHTTTTT?
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>>6387448
Lots of gay men in the acting world.
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>>6384296
But the idea is to spam as many threads as possible.
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>>6384392
>trump wont prevent states from discriminating against lgbt
>but he's totally on your side, u can trust me just vote for him, CAN'T BE STUMPED XD
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>>6387527
Islam hates women and LGBTQ+.
By importing millions of Islamic refugees, the left guaranteed a life of suffering for the gay and female cucks who support them.
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>>6386012
>false flag
>ISIS member, obviously muslim
>son of terrorism immigrant
>biggest massacre since 9/11
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>>6384927
Ever heard of Taqiyya, friend?
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>>6387527

Gay men have already started getting shifted out of the forefront because "male privilege" counts for more than being homosexual. This isn't surprising.
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>>6387645
>Doesn't want the next presidency to be another episode of 'Feds overstepping their boundaries'
>racist sexist transhelicopterphobic asshole bigot
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>>6384285
>>6384300
>The prophet Mohammad
Whoever you find doing as the people of Lot did, kill who does it and the one to whom it is done.
>The prophet Moses
Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; it is detestable.

There is no debate within Islam on whether homosexuals should be put to death; that mandate has been made clear repeatedly in the Holy Quran (the infallible word of Allah) and many times in Hadiths, by the word of the prophet Mohammad himself.
There is only the question of how it should be done.
https://islamqa.info/en/84140

>The companions of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) agreed unanimously that the homosexual is to be executed, and none of them differed concerning that. Rather they differed as to the method of execution.

>It says in Mataalib Ooli al-Nuha (6/174): Even though adultery and homosexuality are both immoral deeds and are both evils that go against the wisdom of Allaah in His creation and His command, in homosexuality there are innumerable evils and it is better for the one to whom it was done to be executed than to let him repeat that evil action, because he has been corrupted in such a way that there is no hope of reform for him, and there is no goodness left in him.
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>>6384285
Have fun contributing to a new age of fascism because you're a wimpy fag who can't history for 3 seconds.
>>6384329
There are gay muslims too. And if you hadn't noticed in the past 75 years, christians have slaughtered us systematically as well. all religions to blame.
>>6384340
this
>>6384354
She'll be a better ally than a fascist, but I'm voting for gary johnson anyways because fuck clinton and trump.
>>6384392
dumbass /pol/ gtfo
>>6385031
given that there are gay muslims that aren't repressed sociopaths, it doesn't.
>>6387059
yes because we're all one-issue voters here.
>>6387083
>muh feels are hurt bc they called him everything but a bigot
>>6387960
and the bible says that men who lieth with other men shall be stoned. who gives a fuck all religions are shitty on this.
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>>6387760
>Taqiyya
The Shi'a doctrine that allowed Shi'a to pretend they are Sunni to avoid persecution during the Abbasid caliphate?

What does that have to do with anything?
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>>6388120
Who the fuck is using stones? The guy used a gun. And Christians aren't gunning people down in nightclubs in America.
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I got banned from a straight website for pointing out that the Muslim was not gay, so they could circlejerk with their lies about how the shooter was gay.
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>>6384285
Well done, OP. If only more understood.
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>>6388120
>fascism
kys
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>>6388120
>strawman
>no true scotsman
>name calling
>"fascism"
>"the bible says"
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>>6388951
I got a bingo, what about you?
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>>6388120
>Gay muslim

I kek everytime I read this
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>>6390719
>b-but not all muslims hate gays

then they aren't actual muslims then
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>>6388120
>completely ignores the Orlando imam that called for death to gays
If a Christian preacher preached death to gays and one of his congregation went out and shot 50 people in a night club you'd be all out saying Christians are horrible bigots. But a muslim guy does it and you #notallmuslims
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>>6390771
Muslims are not historically against gays, unlike Christians.
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>>6390797
You're fucking kidding right.

Move to the middle east as an out and pray gay man and tell me how it goes if muslims are so good.
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The casualties
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>>6390969
In the selfie takers defense, I only take them myself because I have no friends to take them for me.

They all look like massive normies though.
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>>6386948

This

the right to defend your own life is fundamental and the only effective way a physically weak person can defend themselves and have an equal footing is with a firearm

a 100lb femboi can use an AR-15 just as effectively as a much larger snackbar terrorist (probably much better if the snackbar is using the "let allah guide my bullets" school of haji marksmanship)

I'd rather die defending my own life compared with living in impotence and fear like a cuck slave until faruq throws me off a towerblock tbbh senpaitachi
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>>6388120
Socialists (Nazi Party) and Communists (USSR) have historically both hated gay people.

But keep calling Trump a fascist when he's the only pro-gay candidate that wants to keep gay-exterminating Muslims out of the USA.
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>>6390969
Where's the mother from New York who died protecting her son that she was visiting?
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>>6391316
But China's got no problem with gay people? How do you explain that?
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>>6384388
Well I mean no one could bake a cake in this day and age.
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>>6391326
Chinese """"""""people"""""", you need a lesson about how chinas culture and history is different from the rest of the world, are you seriously retarded?

"Hey what about this exception here", also you dumb shit, china is still largely homophobic.

Jesus, people in this board.
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>>6388120
That last one is actually incorrect. See after Jesus did the whole dying for our sins thing the passages that refered to stoning were nulled. No one listened mind you but basically Jesus point blanks says "I am going to die for everyones sins so this ass backward way of killing others can stop." Now it didn't because people are ass backwards but hey if you read the scripture Jesus died so you can be fabulous.
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>>6388120
>She'll be a better ally than a fascist
Yeah, she's so much better than Bernie
(friendly reminder that fascism is a socialist concept)
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>>6390969
Turns out Islam did nothing wrong and was only making the world a better place.
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>>6390797
Have you ever even opened a Quran in your entire life?
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>>6384300
11 islam countries the penalty for being homosexual is death. over 780 million muslims believe homosexuals should be stoned to death. THIS is mainstream islam.
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>>6391632
I want islamicphobes to leave. You are all literally Donald Trump tier retarded
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>>6391653
You're either trolling or just retarded.
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>>6391653
No retort to the fact that the vast majority of muslims believe homosexuals should be stoned to death (shariah law) and 11 islamic countries this is literally the penalty?

If you go to these countries as a gay man you will be killed. No ifs ands or buts. How the fuck can you defend these barbaric savages when they all ADMIT they want to kill you? What kind of insane stockholme syndrome is this?

Here is a group of "moderate" muslims. I want you to listen to what they have to say about homosexuals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEMHKO5MC6c
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>>6388131
>Being this deluded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F4wBeshTsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERou_Q5l9Gw
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>>6384300
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEMHKO5MC6c

You enable their killing. The blood of their victims is on your hands as well. Never ever forget that you piece of shit.
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According to the father of the shooter

>Club should have been prepared for the number of people at the venue.
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>>6391780

Yeah, how dare they think they're living in a first world nation where we shouldn't have to worry about Islamic psychos gunning down faggots?
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>>6391712
>youtube videos
>calling me deluded

wew lad.
I get that you hate muslims (protip:everyone does) but that's no excuse for being retarded. Stop drinking all the Kool-aid that /pol/ gives you. The right wing conception of "Taqiyya" is a fucking meme. There's plenty of reasons to dislike muslims without resorting to literal fabricated /pol/ memes, which anyone with a cardboard cut out of a functioning brain would recognise as fabrications.

No excuse for being stupid.
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>>6384285
>Mainstream news doesn't want to call him a bigot because he's muslim

"Mainstream" media outlets that want to present themselves as neutral and objective tend to steer away from emotional / loaded terms like terrorism, school shooting, etc. It's not their place to make these judgment calls. The media's only responsibility to the public is to report that X event happened at X time and place, and leave it up to the public to judge for themselves what this information means.

Reuters - one of the most neutral outlets I can possibly think of - does this all the time with similar terms. Although articles might reference the terms, they'll almost certainly put them in quotation marks.

Of course, "neutral" to you might mean Fox News, Drudge Report, Breitbart or some similarly far-right nonsense. Which makes me wonder why I even bothered to provide a serious reply.

Oh, right. Back to >>>/pol/ with you.

>Fuck this shit, I'm buying a gun and voting for Trump in November.

Right, because you were once a misguided librul and all that, and now you've seen the light. And now you're going to write a book wherein you line up one fallacy after another to bash your librul / SJW / feminist boogeyman.

I own a gun, but I'm still a liberal, because many liberals do own guns and support basic civil liberties contrary to whatever alternate reality /pol/ or /k/ stumbled out of.
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>>6392156
Option #1: Provide links and sources to the Quran and Hadiths that are proof of Islams history and true beliefs. This option is only followed by the 0.001% of people who actually want to invest time into putting in the research to understand this topic.
Option #2: Post youtube videos that provide some context and sources within a reasonable time due to the quick information, low effort culture we live in.
>Useful idiots
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>>6384285
They most probably didn't hate gays, but fixated their banes and frustration onto them.

Still horribly tragic. How the the club wasn't prepared for violence is outstanding. Did he enter the club with his weapon? How did that slip by security?

How is hatred like this still fostered in our technological era? This is why people don't like religion anymore.
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>>6392376
>How is hatred like this still fostered in our technological era?

Oh plenty of hatred is fostered by Islam.
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>>6392395
This isn't specific to Islam, but to all nations. It's ridiculous.
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>>6392376
>This is why people don't like religion anymore.
I'm not sure what sheltered liberal bubble you live in but Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and it will be set to overtake Christianity this century by number of believers.
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>>6392215

>Of course, "neutral" to you might mean Fox News, Drudge Report, Breitbart or some similarly far-right nonsense.
>Shit
>Shit
>Shit on a sandwich

More examples of neutral news outlets, other than Reuters?
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>>6392376
They follow a religion that says that if you see gay person, kill them. Gay people are so corrupted by sin that they have become abominations.

To plan an attack like this and specifically target a gay establishment you would have to hate gay people.

>>6392215
There's nothing at all about neutrality of the media in the OP. You're projecting, anon.

>>6392999
>Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world
It helps that they have zero problem committing genocide against those that don't follow Islam, especially atheists.
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>>6393164
Could've been a spontaneous hatred. We don't know the specifics enough to make accurate assumptions.

>>6392999
Irrelevant to my point. Whether it's the fastest growing in our present time doesn't change the general view people have about religion in general: that it's mostly corrupted.
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>>6393454
It was obviously a planned massecre, anon. There's no argument there.
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>>6393454
How brainwashed do you have to be to try and deflect radical Islam as the source when even the shooter said it was in was for the US to taste the "Islamic state vengeance"
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