How many mtfs here have smaller shoulders than the average dude? Anyone here lucky to survive male puberty with small shoulders?
>>6341633
whats average shoulders?
+ height?
>Anyone here lucky to survive male puberty with small shoulders?
not even a mtf and this is the case, I'm 19 and hoping I'm not just a really late bloomer or some shit.
>>6341696
Average
- Shoulders for women: 15.55"
- Shoulders for men: 18.30"
- Height for men: 5'8
- Height for women: 5'3
>>6341747
>tfw 16" shoulders
but also
>tfw 5'11"
>>6341747
5'4"
14.5 inches shoulder
do i win?
god how do I hate you unitestatefags and your barbaric measurement system
The ONE thing the frenchfags got right throughout the whole of known History and you have to take a straight man's poo down the neck of its shirt with every single breath you take.
5'8
17" shoulders
My hips are 15" across though so I think it cancels out.
>>6341780
>unitestatefags
pretty much the entire anglo world uses these units for body measurements
>>6341796
That doesn't make them any less wrong, because that means they're pirates' legacy. Not enough with only the britfags using this preposterous shit, the rest of you were such fools as to follow their example.
Repent, dividing stuff by 10s and 100s is the one and only true way
>>6341808
hey at least us australians are sensible enough to use metric for everything else
we only use imperial for body measurements because everyone else does
>>6341819
Obvs I'm shitposting because I can't imperial
I can kinda handle myself with everything else BUT body measurements.
I'm below average height, average measures of foreigners in a measurement system I only half understand mean jack shit square to me.
Good day to you, sensible australian, I have shitposted enough.
>>6341747
5'9.5", 16.6"
Not good, but I've evaded manly man status...
>>6341633
I do but my body still looks shit because I have tinier hips making and upside down triangle despite female sized shoulders.
>>6341633
15" 3/4 shoulders
14" 1/4 hips
5' 6'
Doc says im on the slim side of an ideal bmi.
I get funny looks from people when ive only ever been boy mode. And I also occasionally get gendered female.
I also fill out an A cup already.
And I have a pretty high voice and I get told I sneeze, cough, burp and laugh like a girl by people i've only just met, without me making any mention of me being trans. I get evenly gendered f and m on here and other anon forums. I've been on hrt for two months just. But been off for the. Last few weeks due to the payment not going through because of identity theft.
>>6341633
17" shoulders and 5'5 here, so not really as lucky as I could have been, but I know cis girls shorter than I am with wider shoulders.
At least I have a tiny waist and hips. My backup plan is to put a bag on my head and become a sex worker :^)
>>6341747
What country are you in that this is average for men? That's some manlet shit.
I live in the US and the vast majority of men I encounter, including random strangers standing in line, are minimum 5'10". Very few guys I've seen are my height (5'9") or under.
>>6344512
Averages can get kinda misleading
>I live in the US and the vast majority of men I encounter, including random strangers standing in line, are minimum 5'10"
5'10"-5'9" is exactly the average male height in US afaik
I'm 5'4'', 30-25-33, and I don't wanna find the measuring tape again but I'm in general more lithe than every single girl I hang out with. (then again I aggressively push away anyone who's better than me at anything)
would feel good if i fit my ideal of pale skin, but my features just remind me i'm asian garbage
>>6344303
powers of 2
That's for informatics and pixel graphics
>>6344541
Yea I looked up averages. The average non-Hispanic white American male is 5'10". The average non-Hispanic white American female is 5'5".
>>6344664
you are a real hon/fatty
>>6344668
Can cis girls be hons? Not fat though, I weigh 47kg.
I do wonder if i have/had too much testosterone or something
>>6344674
Congrats, you've discovered that XX females come in many shapes and sizes... just like XY males do.
>>6341747
how am i supposed to measure that
>>6341789
I'm the same widths but 6'
Fuck this shit ;_;
>>6344738
>Congrats, you've discovered that XX females come in many shapes and sizes... just like XY males do.
Obviously. I know that. I have a few manly physical traits, I just didnt state the others because they werent relevant to this thread. In women, that can be a sign of higher than average testosterone levels
>>6342024
well, fuck you
>>6341747
> - Height for men: 5'8
> - Height for women: 5'3
Which manlet country are these stats from?
>>6344664
My shoulders are 18'' but i'm a pre-t ftm so I can't complain
>>6344652
And efficient implementations of many schoolbook algorithms >_<
>>6344674
Working as a cashier, yes, absolutely, and I feel super bad for them, especially if I "pass" better.
>>6341633
I'm 6'1" with 15 inch shoulders. They feel huge to me. I do have fairly wide hips so it sort of balances out.
15" shoulders and I'm 5'5"
>>6344668
How do you even measure that?
I have 14" shoulders but I didn't experience a real male puberty (i have kleinfelters syndrome) and got on hormones before it ended
>>6346345
That is true, I thought the question was essentially, "are there cis women with 'hon' bodies." There are two cis women who come into where I work who I thought were non-passing trans (and two others who I am confident are trans).
>tfw 41-30-37 and 5' 8"
I wish I had wide hips, my shoulders are like 15.5 inches across but my hips are like 12.5 ;__;
Does estrogen build hips?
5'10 and sholders are 16.5' gonna go kill myself now. At least my feet are size 9's in womens. :/
>>6346638
Oh shit. Im also 5'10 with like 16' shoulders. But my feet and hands are decently large. Is there any hope?
>>6346611
Some people have reported it can if you're under 24
>>6341747
Yeah if your in China lol get out commie
>>6346611
yes, my hips have widened considerably, and that's without any fat redistribution (i'm really skinny)
>>6347166
How old?
>>6347214
20, on hrt for a bit over a year
>>6347418
So 21 wouldn't be much of a stretch of hope then?
>>6347429
hopefully not, if you haven't finished puberty then you should be fine
17 inch shoulders wew lad kill me
>>6341747
>16" shoulder
>5'8
Shame about the height but proportionally my shoulders aren't terrible. I'm still fugly though.
>>6347532
Same wanna make a pact?
16" and 5'8"
not bad.
No ;_;
>>6348421
You're supposed to measure your shoulders like pic related
>>6346345
Dick size, what else.
Shoulder width!
>>6346611
30 inch waist?
>>6341747
>shoulders
are we talking biacromial distance or what
>bust 37"
>underbust 33"
>waist 27.5"
(okay, happy so far...)
>hips 31"
fuck
>36.5" bust
>32" underbust
>29" waist
>34" hips
>64" 115 lbs
I still always feel like my hips are tiny. Shoulders are larger though I get told I just look like an athletic girl. Ponytail helps with that I think. Honestly, I'm just happy my boobs are still growing. Most people see tits before they see shoulders, especially on skinny girls.
>>6349358
you're 6 inches shorter than me, but only 10lbs less. am i doing it wrong? am i supposed to weigh more??
>>6349380
I don't understand how someone can be roughly 6 feet tall yet weigh roughly the same as me. I'm skinny. Always have been. I had to gain weight through a lot of work to get some body fat so I could grow boobs and butt. Are you sure you aren't the proprietor of a theme park?
>>6349413
lol. i'm a recovering anorexic. i'm up ~30lbs from my lightest 3 years ago. i guess i still have more to go.
>>6349426
I think it's mostly about what is a healthy weight for you based on your build and activity levels and such.
I'm glad to hear you're recovering from that though. Eating disorders are fucking awful and miserable. For years I didn't eat correctly because I had convinced myself that if I was full I would get sick and throw up because one time I did overeat and throw up when I was sick as a child. I'm finally passed that but it took a lot to do, especially when I didn't even realize what was going on until much later.
>>6349492
my activity level is next to zero, which is basically all i've ever had the energy for. trying to fix that, but i have ptsd/agoraphobia/afuckloadofissues from a sexual assault when i was 13 that ended in brain damage from a blow to the head. makes getting out pretty difficult. at least i'm up to a meal a day now at the minimum. next goal is twice a day everyday, instead of just some days.
>>6349511
Hey, you've got goals and you're working toward them. That's great! I wish you luck.
>>6341633
Yeah, but I don't think it was entirely luck.
There's stuff you can do on your own, such as starving yourself, and by doing so keeping your body from properly grow.
>>6341747
I think the shoulders for men is estimated too high, something between 17-18" seem much more accurate.
I imagine this is taken from a long time ago, and in the army/fire rescuers etc. So especially the men are much bulkier over the shoulders than men normally are.
>>6341758
No, because you measured biarcomial, rather than bideltoid.
>>6348793
Yeah but why reply to that post in particular to ask it, it didn't even mention shoulder width
>>6341633
17.5' shoulders
Hips are a little smaller
6' tall
Bad, but doable.
>>6350634
*17.5" hah
>tfw 43 inch shoulder circumference
>33 in waist
>42 in hips
>5'8"
>172 lb brick shithouse of an MtF
>tfw homogay and bislut cis girls I'm lewd with have grabbed my ass impulsively and always say its a nice ass without me being thirsty for compliments or anything
I'm basically a thicc and joocy brazillian boy body with tiny titties
>>6351609
33 waist is huge
>>6354556
not really
docs recommend a waist less than half your height, at 68 inches a 33 inch waist is perfectly normal and healthy
not even tumblr this is mayo clinic stuff
the fat shaming here is incredible
>>6354622
>fat shaming
go back to tumblr fatass
and lose some weight
>>6354682
>mayo clinic is tumblr
keep believing that fat shamer
5'9
15.5" shoulders
35" bust
32" underbust
26.5" waist
35" hips
I guess I got pretty lucky even if it doesn't feel like it, my face is pretty messed up too
>>6354724
fat """"""people""""""" are a waste of resources and I can't wait until they're fed to the hungry
>>6354994
Wouldn't using all the food waste we dispose of every day be better than resorting to cannibalism?
>>6355003
no because that doesn't get rid of fatasses
>>6354994
>Having a waist deemed healthy and normal by doctors for females, as someone who also had male puberty
>Being fat
Fat shame pls go.
I'm 18, closeted MtF thinking about coming out soon and I'm really fucking worried about my body shape since I think my shoulders are too manly (got lucky about face, hair and other stuff but really worried about body shape)
Also sry for not showing face but I'm really fucking shy
>>6357515
Yeah... unless your face is horrific, HRT and caring for your body will work out very well for you.
>>6357515
It's impossible to tell with such a bad picture
>>6341747
>18" shoulders
>5'11" height
I can't into imperial
>tfw 6' 1"
Are there any surgery or tricks I can do to become/appear shorter? My face and overall body shape passes pretty well, but the height ruins it all. Is there nothing I can do?
>>6351609
you are overweight
>>6360163
cut off ur legs
>>6357707
Imma 5'5" dude and I have 18" shoulders ur fucked but at least ya got height
>>6360163
There's various fashion tricks you can try, and maybe you can move to Northern Europe or something.
Gotta learn to accept yourself though.
