New SRS General. What happened to the last one edition?
NSFW POST OP PICS:
Brassard: http://imgur.com/a/7TqD3
Chett: http://imgur.com/a/XrAa2
Bowers: http://imgur.com/a/ofqcG
Mcginn: http://imgur.com/a/jHbQL
Suporn: http://imgur.com/a/hrRxE
Unknown: http://imgur.com/a/Zw5jk
Why do you not / regret your SRS? Who did you go to? Share some pics!
I'll be getting SRS with suporn next year. I don't even know what to think anymore though.
>tfw you have to wait 3 more years for surgery
oh well, guess my boyfriend will have fun with my dick in his mouth until then
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOOOOOOOSE!?
>>6314484
What happened to the better Chett results? it's gone back to just being the hongina
Is suporn just the best there is?
Need more results from Mr Thomas in the UK. Maybe one of the best out there but it's so hard to find results.
>>6314938
there's only one result from Thomas that I've seen but it was far too early in the healing phase to judge properly.
I went to him based on results I'd seen from Bellringer, the one not so healed result of Thomas I'd seen made me worried about the choice because I was dumb enough to judge a not healed vuvu, in the end I'm a year post-op now and really like mine. I might post results one day when I can be bothered to take a new picture.
Sensation is A+ both external and internal.
The looks are great, though as there's a few tells but I'm getting a little revision soon to correct some.
>>6315002
>I might post results one day when I can be bothered to take a new picture.
Just so you know, there's a lot of people here who could really benefit from seeing it if it's really as good as you say. Just knowing that there are options besides living with an organ you hate or a hongina would be really nice.
Sort of a big deal for a lot of people.
>>6315045
Yeah I know, chances are I'll wait until after the revision because I want it to parfait when/if people see it rather than pointing out the few issues I already know.
>>6314938
>>6315002
I'm Mr Thomas and I'm only 4 1/2 months post op so I'm not quite ready to show it as I'm having a clitoral hood fix in a couple of weeks. I'm very happy though. I believe he does a lot of correction work of Suporn and Chetts errors too. Seems like he's extremely good but he doesn't really advertise at all. Not really the done thing amongst UK medical professions I think.
>>6315745
Reading that back should say I'm a Mr Thomas patient. Sounds like I'm saying I am him!
>>6315745
The clitoral hood split seems to be a somewhat common problem with the UK technique. As that's the revision I'm getting too, I also know someone who went to Bellringer who needed a clitoral hood fix too.
Seems to be a lot of girls who went to Thomas on 4chan.
>>6314535
And then you realize he has a cock fetish and moves on to another tranny with a dick or just goes full gay.
People are actually chopping their dicks off? I thought this was an urban legend.
>>6315881
It is, their dick is still attached lmao.
It's literally just reshaping it, only psychopaths would actually chop it off.
If I'm going to pay 15-20,000$ I want it to be perfect. I don't know if/when surgery can do that. Most of the pictures I've seen of post op don't look natural.
someone give me free srs please
>>6316010
Honestly cis vaginas aren't pretty either. With srs you can't expect a perfect vagina, that's unrealistic.
>>6315844
I mean I hope not, he's already made it clear that he's gonna support me through it all, even before I brought it up myself. Not to mention he went out with me originally thinking I was already post-op until we had sex lol.
But I'm definitely not ruling out the possibility, that's for sure.
>>6314744
The last thread went missing so i don't have the links. I'll probably update the collection next thread.
>>6315812
All these Thomas girls and yet no pics. I refuse to believe this hear say about how great he is until I see at least one result.
>>6316628
>he's gonna support me through it all
Beware of this chaser scummery. I'm a chaser but I'll straight up tell a girl I'm not staying with her through SRS. Some chasers are even more despicable and will pretend to be cool with it.
>>6319029
>I'm the only good chaser fuck me!
>>6319121
I just said I would dump a trans girl if she got srs, so if you think that makes me a good person then you must be in some shitty circumstances atm anon.
>>6319006
Found it on the /lgbt/ archive
http://imgur.com/a/1xWpj
>>6319247
You got me anon turns out i have poor reading comprehension.
>>6314484
Suporn looks best from the galleries but I still wish there were more option in terms of surgeons.
>>6320629
Fuck that, we need more methods.
Transbian SRS which focuses on aesthetics over depth when?
do post-op transsexuals keep their prostate? sorry I don't know anything about this, was just passing through
>>6321711
Yes, that's why some post-ops still prefer anal.
>>6320948
When it comes to aesthetics, there are surgeons in North Africa who have a great reputation for aesthetic nymphoplasty. They also rebuild hymens. Not SRS per se and they mostly operate on cis women before their wedding to make it look as youthful and virginal as possible, but still an option.
>>6320948
transbians have SRS? for what purpose?
>>6322162
Trying to get rid of dysphoria. Same as all trans women really...
>this entire thread
What have the Jews done?
>>6322170
buh how do they have sex?
>>6322187
Same as any other lesbians. There's more to sex than PiV, you know.
>>6320948
There's only so much you can trade off. For the most part the aesthetics are just up to your healing and the surgeons hand rather than how much he used for depth. With the suporn technique depth essentially doesn't effect aesthetics since he wasn't going to use any of that tissue for aesthetics anyways.
>>6321711
Yes and you can feel it through the neo-vagina, which makes sex feel better.
Taking it out is pointless and risky.
>>6325082
makes me want a cunt even more
>>6325113
Right? On the diagram i posted the little thing under the bladder is the prostate. So if anything it'll be even easier to touch it almost like a deeper g spot.
>>6316431
"reasonably like a real vagina/not outright freakish" =/= "pretty"
>>6314484
Sup legs n butts, I made a thread on /cd/. I had srs with McGinn 7 months ago and want to be available for questions. You can ask on here or there if you want.
http://boards.420chan.org/cd/res/398527.php
>>6330263
Without pics, what's the point?
>>6330287
Someone else posted a picture of theirs in the thread.
So the Centers for Medicare services just pushed this out to their provider mailing list. I'm guessing there are not a lot of Medicare recipients on 4chan, so the decision isn't that important, but if nothing else the document provides an interesting bibliography and overview of recent studies related to Gender Dysphoria and Gender Reassignment.
https://www.cms.gov/medicare-coverage-database/details/nca-proposed-decision-memo.aspx?NCAId=282
>>6322174
>Its da jeews.
like the Dutch didn't start this in the 30's.
>>6330263
I'm really sorry for you and that other gorl. Mcginn truely is a butcher like none other.
>>6332447
yeah the worst part is that I went in to get a second penis put on.
- 8.5/10, IGN
>>6314883
depends on what your have
if you have foreskin,average to short penis and no orchie I'd say yes
>>6314521
good luck
>>6315881
"It's just a meme bruh"
>>6316010
idk it's hit or miss atm
some turn out natural some don't
mainly it seems to come down to how well everything heals and how good the surgeon is
>>6321711
yes but just like non-ops and pre-ops the prostate pretty much reduces to the female equivalent due to hrt
>>6322162
to get rid of dysphoria
>>6322174
idk what have they done ?
>>6322187
fingers,tongue, etc.
>>6333027
Hey Lalalily is this yours? http://i.imgur.com/hUcr3J2.jpg
Someone linked to it in the last thread and said it was.
>>6333027
>if you have foreskin
Makes me hate my parent's even more, and they complain about srs being genital mutilation
>>6337779
no its not even suporn
>>6337864
Thanks anon. Anyone know who's it is? I just want to know the surgeon.
>>6337864
Ikr not even qt
>>6337864
How can you tell?
>>6337779
This is from /r9k/.
Going to need more pics than just the ones in op
>>6314883
No this is a meme and misinformation. He is quite hit and miss. Probably the biggest gamble surgeon to go to. His best are good but others consistently achieve results as good if not better.
>>6337779
lmao that isn't even a suporn vag m8
so no not mine
>>6314484
"Straight" white guy here.
Fucked and dated several transgenders pre and post op. Living in Thailand currently, which has a very large population of both, and many world class surgeons who provide surgery for these people.
Let me tell you something.
Your fake vaginas feel like shit, and are disgusting to look at and play with. They really are fucking vile, and I have yet to see one that does not look like a disfigured, mutilated wound (which it is).
Don't make a mistake and turn your dick inside out. It is not a real vagina and no matter what your present or future partner is telling you, they will think your literal "fuck hole" of a wound is disgusting.
Those galleries are misleading at best, outright lies at worst. What they do not show you is how these things feel and behave when touched, or what they look like when you are being moved around in bed. The shit just 'hangs' unnaturally.
Please fucking reconsider your decision. You think you hate your cock? Imagine waking up and realizing one day that your pussy isn't just ugly, but not even 'passing' either.
>>6338889
Pay attention to the tell. You know who this is.
>>6338889
Fucking chaser scum. You're just abusing those poor thai bois.
>>6333027
Lalalily can you tell us more about your vag?
>>6344943
what do you want to know ?
>>6345029
Well I want to see it but you don't have to do anything you don't want.
I just want to know who your surgeon was and your general opinnion on him.
>>6346229
well gonna try to make a short list then
>sensation
10/10
>lubrication
on par with my gfs (afab)
>taste and feel
on par with my gfs
>looks
passes without a problem
i honestly can't say anything bad about it
now about the surgeon
>surgeon
suporn
>personal opinion
well I am completely happy with the result so 10/10
>general opinion
if you are young he seems to be pretty god tier all the time from what I've seen there
post op care is pretty good (daily checkups for as long as you stay, 24/7 emergency number, 2 weekly checkups with suporn and since all patience have to stay at the same hotel you got a pretty decent community there already)
only negative thing I could think about is that with older patients, while good, the results don't look as good
so I'd give him all things considered 8 or 9/10
>>6346332
How big was you penis before the surgery? I heard a myth that he isn't good with large penises because there's too much skin.
>>6346332
How much did it cost you?
I am going to be saving towards Suporn but i saw an endo who used to work at a clinic today, and he agreed that with the criteria I fit, I could receive SRS on the british NHS as soon as 8 months time
free mediocre SRS soon vs private excellent SRS in the next two years
anyone had a brit experience?
>>6346399
can't rly remberm tbqh
best guess from the top of my head would be somewhere around 18cm
>large penises and suporn
yeah heard the same
>>6346498
everything included (plane, stay etc.) around 17k € but if you cut down here and there (e.g. I booked direct flight and stayed a week longer) you could squeeze it down to 16 I guess
>>6346504
I had srs on the nhs, it's definitely not just mediocre.
Some of the best visual results I've seen when fully healed have come from a British surgeon: Mr Bellringer. I had Thomas in Brighton and I absolutely love it.
Got good sensation, good depth, doesn't look like an abomination. A+, would go to same surgeon again if my dick suddenly grew back.
>>6348857
I've never seen a brit resault. Can you share yoursor the ones you saw?
>>6348814
This might be a bit of a weird wuestion but how easy is it to keeo your new genitals clean compared to your old ones? I have a fear that after surgery i'll get gross smegma build up or something.
Also what does it taste like? Do you think a cis lesbian would dislike the taste or texture?
>>6349197
literally just washing yourself
not hard
taste,feel and smell is pretty much the same as my gfs and she likes it soooo no I don't think afabs would dislike it
>>6337812
if you're cut are you fucked?
>>6348857
Bellringer only does private now, which is a shame because I had heard good things. I'm terrified of getting my stuff down there lasered though.
Any have experience with Anthem Insurance & SRS?
Mainly which docs they cover?
>>6349582
Is your gf cis? How do your vagians compare? Do you like things int he same spots as she does?
>>6351018
>Is your gf cis?
she's afab so yes
>How do your vagians compare?
what do you mean ? I already went over that topic in a few posts
>Do you like things int he same spots as she does?
no because humans are different
>>6346504
No experience with brit, but let's say you have a normal wang length. One option is to get the free and soon surgery, get good initial depth from that. Then for less money than you would have spent on another surgeon + in the same amount of time, you can easily afford an aesthetic revision if you're not happy with the appearance. This is the kind of cosmetic surgery regular women get too, not some wacky extra trans surgery.
In my research, suporn (or any thai) is hit-or-miss. Either the person fanboys out about how great everything was/ is, which is not an indication of how good he is or how good he would be for you. Or they're some poor Thai ladyboy who got butchered with no recourse. His english is bad (we're all speaking english here), and it's a month thousands thousands of miles away.
The fanboy factor, then seeing TERRIBLE results from people who were ecstatically happy about it was enough for me to dismiss thai surgeons. Like what if all the fanboys are ugly old hons who got a 1" deep ax wound and are so deluded that they don't know any better?
>>6350091
no, especially not in the west where circumcision is common. doctors know how to do without. it's a little extra bit of sensitive skin, but if you can get off with your gt now, you can expect the same post op.
>>6350148
I have Blue Cross Blue Shield, which is really just a name licensed out to a different company in each US state. Sometimes it's Anthem-Blue Cross, so maybe they're similar anyway. My experience with BCBS was that they approved it easily, with my surgeon including everything they had, including letters from my surgeons.
After that it was many hours on the phone with them to make sure surgery, anaesthesia, and hospital were all included in this coverage, getting the waiver to have it covered at the in-network rate (most SRS surgeons don't take insurance directly, Bowers is the big-name exception who does, but most networks won't have an SRS surgeon in them, thus the waiver after surgery approved), then double and triple checking with them. I paid upfront for surgery, they covered the rest directly with me picking up the remainder. After, I sent in the receipts and whatever paperwork/ explanation. Months later, insurance sent me a pitiful amount because they were probably hoping I didn't know how much they really owed (tried to reimburse me at the very low out-of-network rate after approving in-network). Sent my appeal, called and called to make sure they got the appeal, more months later finally got the appeal approved/ won.
It's a bitch, but it was over time, and it's a buttload of money I should be getting back.
>>6351435
is your cervix just like hers?
>>6352485
They create a cervix from the glans penis so it feels good to get pounded
>>6352485
no idea what makes you think that I have a uterus
>>6352474
Thanks Anon.
>>6351435
Seriously though.
>>6352678
is it true that srs vaginas are smother inside?
Is it possible to have a vagina AND keep your penis? (Transplanting another persons vagina onto/into yourself?)
>>6354433
As afab vaginas ?
Not from my experience
>>6354427
Seriously though what ?
>>6354574
Can they just invert the ballsac?
>>6354574
Not through transplant but yes technically you can and someone has done it.
You have to go to a non SRS surgeon to do it though and your vag wont be much more than a glorified hole. No clit, no labia, none of that.
See pic related: http://i.imgur.com/wFvPGEY.jpg
>>6357109
can you explain what the point of this is?
>>6357153
There's no point. If you're a fetishist you can get it.
I would never recommend it though.
>>6357174
thanks anon, i suspected it would be something like that
>>6357109
Literally disgusting.
>>6354643
You seem unwillingly to admit anything is not identical to cis vaginas. It's making it hard for me to believe you're being open an honest about your operation. It's not any help when people already discredit all positive parts of SRS by pointing out that a lot of trans girl gloss over the truth of the matter.
It's great you're happy with your vagina and I hope i am too when i get mine with him but i just want to know all the ins and outs not just the positives.I'm not an idiot i know it can't be all roses.
>>6357986
Well I stated multiple times that some people end up with results that aren't optimal
I just got lucky
want me to make up stuff instead ?
literally the only thing about mine that I would consider not 100% to my liking would be that my inner labia isn't larger than my labia majora
But that's an aesthetic thing and has nothing to do with passing
>genital dysphoria
>srs results look fucking disgusting
wat do
>>6358163
I'm not asking if it's a good srs vagina or if you like it. I want to know what parts are more in line with typical cis vaginas and what parts could use improvment.
Things like texture, positioning, ergnous spots, acidity, bacterial make up, tolerence to uti, self lubrication, scar tissue, thing that may need a revision, etc.
I want to know what i'm getting into more intimately and i feel like i'm getting a canned 'everythings lovley darling' response instead. What's good? What were you worried about that turned out better than expected? Is there room for improvment? Would you have done anything differently? Why do you think x feature is good and close enough to a natal vagina?
I'm sorry if i'm coming off as a dick about this but i'm just very frsutrated with the lack of information outthere.
>>6358554
Cut your dick off lol.
>>6352474
so basically you had to pay our of pocket and then they reimbursed you?
fuck
>>6359474
Again that's hard to predict
some get nothing close to cis
some do
But here just my personal things
>texture
No difference
>erogenous
nothing I could find is different
>positioning
lol no difference
>bacterial make up
according to my latest test results identical
>UTI
wat ?
like I seriously don't get the question
utis are easier to get with a vag if that's what you mean
>scar tissue
no scars
probably due to age and stuff
>revision worthy
nothing
while there is a thing that isn't 100% to my liking it isn't revision worthy to me
>want to know more intimately hut much good responses
Well as I said I can lie if you want
like phienchen would give you a different answer, Imo will probably give you a different answer and so on
It is hard to predict but in general good be it with flaws for some or not
So far even the ones with bad results from suporn I met were happy as fuck
>good
Already covered
>turned out better
Everything
Expected the worst
>room for improvement
better hospital food would be the only thing I can think of
>differently
no
>why feature
cause we can't find a difference thus far
Be it with blindfolded friend of ours during a 3some having to guess who's vag is it or the test results regarding my vag flora
>>6350099
>I'm terrified of getting my stuff down there lasered though.
If you're getting the inversion and you're not circumsized chances are you won't need any hair removal at all because all the skin they put inside will already be hairless. I was really worried about hair because they told me I wouldn't need any removal despite being quite hairy down there, turns out my surgeon was right (who knew, trust your surgeon), I don't have a single internal hair or hair where it shouldn't be. They get A LOT of depth from the foreskin, it's only if you can't get good depth from hairless tissue that you'll need to get pre-op removal since they do the scrotal-inlay rather than penile.
>Bellringer only does private now, which is a shame because I had heard good things
I've heard of some people getting referred to him because otherwise the NHS list would just spiral out of control even more. But Thomas is supposed to do the exact same technique anyway. Mine doesn't look exactly like the Bellringer girl's I saw but I'd put that down the differences in anatomy in the first place and healing and stuff like that.
>>6349187
The result was from a reddit user called "FizziePop", unfortunately they've deleted their account and I didn't save it. But their one year post-op picture was really good. You might be able to find them if you're like good at google and archives but I haven't been able to.
>>6352491
You jest but it really does feel good when the vault of the vagina (what should be cervix) gets hit during sex. I imagine it's just the prostate or something.
>>6359907
Thanks for your answer this time.
About the scars you don't have? How long ago did you get the surgery? Did they fade very well on you?
>>6359743
Yes. 7 months later I'm still waiting to be reimbursed, expecting about half of the total back. They did cover the hospital directly which made it easier.
>>6361005
Got it roughly 11 months ago
they were never rly there to begin with at best I had like a small slightly lighter line along the labia majora but it went away quickly
Best guess he just did most of the stitches inside so not noticeable
>>6350099
>>6360120
Inversion puts both scrotal and penile tissue inside the vagina. They can be less gentle with the scrotal skin during surgery, so it's easier for them to remove follicles with a standard scraping. The most important part to get prior removal on is the base of the penis. They can't do as much to that tissue during surgery.
Lol I got electrolysis on that whole area with no painkiller in 60-minute sessions. The scrote didn't hurt at all - just little pinches. The D hurt like nobody's business. If the lady wasn't leaning on my legs, they would have been involuntarily flapping all over from the pain. I just clenched my teeth and dealt with it though and now have no hair inside the V. If you have more time, laser might be easier, definitely faster at least.
>>6361194
Sounds like your body is really good at healing.
>>6361608
well I walked around for hours a week after the surgery so as I said just my personal experience in regards to srs and not necessarily the norm
>>6361653
Yeah it sounds like you bounced back fast. A lot of people would be at risk of tearing stitches if they did that.
>>6361221
Depends on your surgeon and you. There is not one single "inversion". The inversion they do in the US tends to use scrotal and penile tissue inside the vagina because they get a lot of patients who are circumsized.
This is not the case in the UK and thus the surgeons rather than have to deal with using scrotal tissue inside making the patient need hair removal and still risk having internal hair have opted to maximize their depth using just penile and foreskin tissue. And it works, I have 6" of depth with NO scrotal tissue inside and never had a second of hair removal.
If Titchbits gets srs in the UK then she'll need to see the surgeon first and they'll be able to tell because they'll either do one techinque or another, one which they call the inversion doesn't require hair removal because there's no scrotal skin inside, as I said. The other they call the scrotal inlay where they do use scrotal skin will require it. But they will in most cases not need to do this because they don't need the scrotal skin to get good depth in most UK patients.
>>6361813
True, every surgeon does things differently. It's very similar as a whole (shit flipped inside to make the V) but everyone has their nuanced approach. I shouldn't have spoken so generally about it, that was just my experience.
>>6361861
It's not that similar. Making the hole and clit is essentially the same for all of them but what they do with what skin is the big difference.
going to Suporn in 10 days, fml i'm so fking nervous, and last minute tips, or comfort food to bring, etc? advice on how to not be stressed and anxious? haha
>>6365232
First, go to a surgeon in the US or Canada. lul nah just kidding you'll be fine. Aside from that, bring an itch cream for the incisions - mine got super itchy a couple weeks after. In the hospital bed, your body can get itchy too, and you can't move enough to scratch. Get one of those extendo-scratchy-hand things for your legs and whatever. Long USB cable + Thailand-compatible wall plug for your phone/ tablet. You will most likely feel a ton of bowel pain from the gas. I freaked out a couple times and was asking the nurses if I could get up and go to the toilet because I felt like I was going to shit myself. If you've done the bowel prep right, you won't. It'll just be gas. I think trying to fight it under the assumption that I'd shit myself made the pain worse.
Comfort food? I was eating normally pretty much as soon as I got out of the hospital. So I don't know, I didn't really need those special little treats to remind me of normal food. Mostly I was just getting antsy. No matter how good you feel, don't push yourself past what the doctor tells you. I felt like I could have walked around and done everything on my own, but that can really fuck things up down there. So I got antsy thinking I could do everything and having to hold myself back. I'm usually very independent, so letting or asking others to do normal easy-seeming things was hard.
>>6365232
Say hi to svetlana while you're there.
Why are these pics all so ugly? Normal vaginas aren't this bad, are they? This shit is depressing. I just wanted to be a girl and it won't happen unless I settle for a frankenvag?
>>6367738
How can you call it a frankenvag if you dkn't know what a cis vag looks like?
They're not all amazing but common.
>>6367807
I don't recall cis-vaginas ever looking this bad. Something just seems off.
>>6367820
Are the only cisginas you've seen from porn?
>>6368204
And a few in person. The suporn ones looked a little better, but something doesn't seem totally right. The North American doc's results were scary af.
Is it even worth it?
>>6367738
>>6367820
well part of it is that these are surgical vaginas with no revisions after. part is that the posing/ hair style is very clinical, so that's not how you usually view vaginas. part is that most of the pictures are taken way too soon after surgery because some trannies can't fucking wait to share that shit.
I say the #1 reason is because most who can afford SRS and who share pics are hons. Their skin is old and saggy and doesn't take to surgery well. They p. much have a man body with another hole in it now. Hons also tend to be the most delusional, so they're giddy to share (unlike many younger trans who understand how internet works) and think they got amazing results. Plus how many 50+ y.o. cis vaginas do you look at?
GCS vaginas can be nasty, but put a cis vag in the same conditions and it will look nasty in some ways too (maybe not as nasty but it's all within the range)
>>6368265
if it's the bottom part that's because they cna't fix it until a year post op.
>>6314484
Ok to be frank I don't understand trans women who don't even WANT the vagina.
I get the idea of Mtfs who want it but hesitate because srs scares them. Srs is as good as it's going to get for a long time, and any major advancements aren't going to require you to have a dick to get them.
But the one's who are happy with the dick and getting pounded in the anus, calling them boy pussy and girl tinkler? On top of that they like men who like dicks, they tie a bow on their dick and role play bdsm for sex? What is the point of being transgender if you're just a crossdressing fetishist bi-gay femme man? Why can't you just change your social role and keep the fetishism indoors?
bump to save from /pol/
>tfw surgery in 22 days
How do I not have a heart attack before that day? How do I pass the time at all...
>>6369119
based
>>6361736
Well, I'm 38. Got SRS a bit more than a month ago. I went for a six hours shopping walk a couple days after they removed the urinary catheter and pouch. That was less than two weeks after surgery. No pain even back then. Scarring is barely visible even though a few stitches aren't yet totally gone.
If the surgeon does a good job, healing isn't much of an issue.
>>6370782
>How do I not have a heart attack before that day? How do I pass the time at all....
who are you going to??? are you going to be at suporn?
i'm feeling the same way though, fuck its just like counting down the hours till i go under.
>>6373065
The few weeks before I took the plane to Thailand was hectic, because I got released from the psychiatric ward exactly one month before. If you want to keep yourself busy, start preparing your luggage already. Shopping for a few light clothes (if you're a small size, better buy most of what you need there, it's really cheap), basic waterproof makeup, electronics you'll need... Then read up on sightseeing targets, because if recovery is as smooth as it was for me, you'll have two full weeks for that...
>>6373065
I'm going to Chett.
>>6370983
Well unless you went to Suporn it's not surprising.
People who've gotten SRS, do you get like phantom ball itch? A friend asked me this and now i gotta know.
>>6374683
Nobody outright scratches. You pinch and roll.
>>6374658
I've never had any kind of phantom penis/ball sensations. Even straight after surgery it felt right and never felt like my penis was there in any way, though I couldn't feel much down there straight after (everything feels amazing now).
>>6368759
>tfw have a fourchette from the start and won't have to go back to have one made
>>6375273
Thanks! Any idea who this is and who they went to?
>>6374683
It's well known that it takes longer because he creates a mesh out of your testicle skin. He says it himself all over his site. That's why in the west you can go home after a week or two but he wont let you leave for a month.
>>6375894
Who did you go to? What exactly is your fourchette like? How did you not wreck it with dilation?
>>6375273
Christ, that's boke inducing.
>>6375273
Are we sure this is post op?
Also I think that one looks pretty good thb. If that is what I had to have I would be ok with this I think.
The part that bothers me the most is actually losing your testicles. Even women have ovaries. I feel like testicles do a lot more than just pump out testosterone and sperm. I don't want to fuck my metabolism just because I lost my nuts. I do really want a vagina though. . . The struggle is real!
>>6379888
Have you never seen a real cis woman's pussy? I can tell this is an inverted dick from a mile away, even without the scarring.
>>6379888
It's pretty obviously a neo vagina. The scars look really fresh too.
anyone here who had SRS with Brassard? if so are you happy with your results? and I'd appreciate any pictures you could provide.
the ones in the album aren't really convincing me, and I'd like to consider other options. I have to wait around 3 more years to get it free from brassard
>>6380154
Don't go to brassard. His surgery was bad enough to get someone to arson his clinic.
>>6380488
I'd probably go for suporn, but the idea of surgery in a third world country kind of scares me, along with those horror stories
I'm scheduled for Meltzer in about a year. Wish me luck lads. Anyone have experience with him?
I have insurance that (probably? i live in one of those states that mandates tranny surgical coverage) will cover GRS.
I'm just starting to look into docs and I have no idea wtf im doing. Whats my first step?
Am I stuck with a US doc if I want insurance to cover it? Who's the best for aesthetics? function/lubrication?
Fuck its just so fucking daunting and neither of my other doctors know anything.
>>6383996
im uncut, if that matters at all for technique...
>>6383996
The website is a bit dated but it still lists all relevant surgeons, they're not that many anyhow.
http://www.tssurgeryguide.com/
Don't consider the prices or info to be up to date, read into some of the surgeons listed and find reviews on Susans or wherever else you can find it.
Personally I think worth consideration worldwide are Brassard, Bowers, Meltzer, Suporn, Saran, Chettawut, Sanguan and Bellringer. The others may be but I don't have enough info to say whether or not they'd be an option for me.
You can never really know what results you will have, it's a huge gamble with any surgeon.
>>6384049
so y/n on requiring a US doc for insurance?
does anyone happen to know? thats probably the only way I can hope to afford it...
Is the brassard link really supposed to be a transwoman? She looks incredible. I have a hard time believing that that is the result of surgery.
>>6384112
No idea, I'm european. Can't imagine you have such fucked up insurance as we do though.
Literally the only surgeons my insurance covers are hobby butchers doing SRS for giggles.
guys I'm really scared. I don't want to have surgery but I'm 10 months HRT and everything below feels wrong. I'm pretty sure now I'm going to have to have it done but like.. aaaahh it's inevitable
>>6384049
One surgeon I never see mentioned here and yet has a huge reputation among the MtFs I meet IRL is Kamol. Too old guard, I guess, but I don't think I've seen the name mentioned once either for good or ill. Which is just weird when he's the first choice of some girls. Granted, I didn't even consider going to him simply because parts of his website are incredibly cringy, but still...
>>6384124
Same here, really. Getting it from Chett was a significant expense, but when you see that what Revol displays as "successful" surgeries looks more like a failed metoidoplasty on top of a distended anus, I definitely wouldn't have gotten surgery in France. Morel-Journel may not be as much of a backwards asshole as his colleagues but he's way too green. I'm not trusting someone who's done less SRS in his whole career than any big name does in a year.
>>6378679
I went to Chett and he described a very similar scrotal skin use when explaining the procedure. I still was up and running ten days after surgery even though I had beeen asked to stay in Bangkok for a month. No bleeding or significant discomfort since. I barely even used the donut cushion I was given.
>>6380771
Thailand isn't Nepal or Congo, though... Sure, it's no Switzerland, but you can bet that if a good SRS surgeon decided to set up shop in Switzerland, the prices would be unaffordable except for celebrities...
I really didn't have any third world country woes there, to be honest. And unlike India, they don't have designated shitting streets, so I was able to find clean toilets with an adequate supply of toilet paper wherever I went.
>>6384433
>Kamol
What I read about Kamol sounded absolutely unprofessional. Granted there's not much info on him, but he doesn't seem to have much going for him outside his own website.
What I read was some tranny booking surgery with him and once she made it to Thailand everything about her visit to his clinic was shady as fuck.
>If you want cut cut then I cut cut, no problem for me
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=206123.0
How happy are you with your Chett vag? My surgery with him is 3 weeks away and I'm really stressed and worried. I hear I'm only gonna be allowed to eat soup, but for how long? And can I buy myself estrogen patches in Thailand? Does Chett allow using them? Do you know why I have to discontinue AAs before surgery?
>>6384488
I'm fine with the results, they're above my expectations. I thought it probably was going to look too young and symmetrical to look natural as a whole, but it looks and feels right.
Estrogen, you'll have to discontinue until you come back because risks of DVT are seriously increased when you're stuck in bed and during long flights. However, I probably should have kept using some because no E really didn't help my mood.
You can find any common medicine in Bangkok, including HRT, even supermarkets all have a well stocked pharmacy. And you have proper pharmacies everywhere, so...
The diet part is just a few days before surgery. It's there to make sure your colon is as clean as possible before surgery and that's pretty important to limit risks and avoid complications. Technically, it's a no fats, no residue diet. There's one semisolid food you can still eat and that's jello. If you're afraid of hunger pangs, you should stock up on that. You can find some that comes in pouches, supplemented with vitamins and amino acids, really handy. Also, boxes of powder to prepare it yourself.
Another thing I stocked up was Thai Red Bull. Flat, really high sugar content, pretty much syrup like. Comes in small glass vials with different types of vitamin/minerals supplementation. Perfect to keep your sugar and caffeine levels optimal.
AAs are not needed after surgery because your levels will at last naturally be low. Before surgery, discontinuing them makes sure your hepatic and renal functions are optimal, which can make healing and recovery a lot easier.
>>6354574
>Is it possible to have a vagina AND keep your penis?
Asking the real questions
>>6384612
Probably could be done with using scrotal skin and extensive skin grafts from other parts of the body.
I seriously doubt you'd be able to get that in the West or in Thailand. Runs afoul of regulations in most countries and borders on mad science. Maybe in Brazil or Serbia, though...
>>6384597
Thanks for the advice, really appreciated.
I specifically said patches because they shouldn't increase risk for DVT. I might not use them immediately after surgery but I feel I cannot consent to being 6 weeks off E.
>Before surgery, discontinuing them makes sure your hepatic and renal functions are optimal, which can make healing and recovery a lot easier.
Makes sense I guess, hope I'll survive it.
>>6384648
Getting back on E shouldn't be a problem. Actually, you probably should just bring the patches with you, along with your script. Or mixed up in a mass of individually packed moist towelettes, beauty masks and cosmetics samples in your cabin luggage if you don't have a script. They just don't browse through beauty items individually.
Well, except when they're a bit scary on the scanner. I used a Juliette Has a Gun travel spray to bring some of my custom perfume with me. Solid metal shell, bullet shape. It looked really great on the scanner to be honest and I instantly recognized it when asked to retrieve it from the suitcase. Explained what it was, had the security girl take a whiff of the perfume, she asked me the name, told her it didn't have one and wasn't available to buy, and I was on my way.
>>6384718
>along with your script
I been self medding for over 2 years. Not gonna get a script in this life it seems. Shouldn't be an issue to buy them in Thailand though?
>They just don't browse through beauty items individually.
I make my own cosmetics but usually in containers without any text on them, just like a sticker saying shampoo and such and inside it is whatever cream or liquid... do you think that could cause me trouble with customs?
I could add more perfume than usual to everything if they wanna sniff it but I rather be safe, I heard Thailand is pretty anal about drugs.
I literally got everything, day creams, deo, shampoo, hair care, sunscreen all with no description on the container...
I have a consultation for Meltzer in January. So I'm excited, but I'm really worried about if I have enough to work with.
I'm intersex and my gt is only 3.5 inches erect. Is that enough to work with or am I fucked?
>>6384765
>Is that enough to work with or am I fucked?
If he uses scrotal grafts anything is enough, if he doesn't, then you probably get like a 2-3 inch vag. Dunno about US surgeons, but thais are all known to use scrotal grafts.
Depends how sexual you are whether thats an issue.
>>6384753
Actually, any liquids or gels you're bringing with you on the plane, you're expected to transfer into small, clear containers, so, no, I wouldn't expect trouble for that. Didn't get any for the DIY cosmetics I had in my checked luggage either. I'd be more worried about that if I were to fly to the USA, not being a citizen. But other countries aren't so paranoid. Hell, I had an unlabeled pot of white silica+crushed pearl loose powder with me on the plane and that didn't raise any eyebrow. Thailand has strict laws about drugs, but Westerners who run afoul of those are mostly either stupid stoners who think nobody notices when they smoke their roach in the street or idiots who think they can get away with small scale smuggling of drugs of abuse.
>>6384810
For all they know my cosmetics could be drugs I'm smuggling. But okay, good to know they're not THAT strict about my luggage. Suppose I'll take them with me then.
>>6360120
i'm a mess down there, there's hair and scars everywhere, and shrinkage caused by HRT has essentially pulled generic pubic skin halfway up the 'shaft'. i'd need to talk to a surgeon, be examined and seen, and discuss things properly. i'm only about two and a half inches max when it comes to phallic tissue but like theres a lot of skin and other tissue to work with. its a mess. it'll be lasers for days :<
>>6383996
Don't get fooled into going to McGinn. She's a butcher.
>>6384049
Don't consider Saran. I've removed it from the OP but i have a whole folder of his butchery on one of my friends. She was shitting out her vagina for fucks sake.
>>6385906
Ive seen the most cis-looking neovag (yes I actually know what they look like) be from Saran. As I wrote in my post though, SRS is an unfortunate gamble , sucks what happened to your acquaintance. Reviews I read were pretty good too, youre the first time I hear something negative about him.
>>6386139
I literally can't believe you looking at my friends neo-vagina.
>>6387227
wait what
>>6384112
This is something you have to negotiate with your insurance. If you can do it in a way that costs your insurance provider less, they might be willing to work with you. But they might not pay the doctor upfront, you'd have to be reimbursed instead.
>>6387332
read it like this, "Looking at my friend's neo-vagina, I literally can't believe you [that you've seen the most cis-looking neovag from Saran].)
>>6385901
Nah she good. If you don't like the looks after it heals, she does free in-office revisions (you have to pay hospital fees if it requires an operating theater).
>>6388037
dude everyone offers that.
>>6385901
How bad is she, her website results looks decent?
>>6388874
She does 3 surgeries a day and makes people go home only a week or two later. If you have any problems she's nowhere to be found and she punctures into the anus more than any other surgeon according to susans.
>>6388914
*3 a week, sometimes 4.
2 on tuesdays, 1 or 2 on thursday in the case of a surgery getting bumped/ rescheduled.
I did an assload of research, of course I'm biased because I went to her, but I just never found any horror stories like that for her. susans and laura's though? take everything they say with a grain of salt, positive or negative. their reputation for being hugbox/ circlejerk is way too strong. every surgeon has horror stories, mcginn included. just always be careful. maybe 1 person knows the real story and 99 are just parroting it.
>>6388874
do your own research instead of just believing some dude on 4chan. sure, take what this anon says into account, but also consider her website pictures, other pictures online, pictures from other surgeons, stories, reviews, blogs, &c &c &c
>>6388851
exactly. she's a normal srs surgeon with normal results and backs her work with that kind of guarantee, just like the other big-name doctors. she estimated that ~10% come back to her for a revision. take that as you will.
>>6389012
Asking anons is part of my research tho
>>6384765
I had my consultation with him late last year. I'm not diagnosed intersex, but my gt is like 3 or 4 inches hard, and kinda "hides" when not in use. I was worried going in, but he said it was enough without needing distant grafting because he uses scrotal tissue.
You're probably OK
>>6389090
Sorry I should have been more clear. I mean that guy just did a drive-by "she sucks" and nothing more so screw that guy. There's a McGinn thread on /cd/ (it's linked above in this thread) if you want to read a couple anons experience with her specifically. Asking anons is def a huge part of research, especially once you filter out the fanboy noise.
>>6390932
That thread is a great example of why she's a butcher. Look at their vags.
>>6391998
eh tbfam I think they're better looking overall than the results some doctors get. That's about all you can do is kind of average them in your head, because every person gets different results, even if they all went to the same doctor. It's not like vaginas are mass produced to look the same, then implanted with the only variation being surgeon skill. But you're right, they don't look entirely natural especially when posed for pictures like this ("let's completely shave and splay out to show off kawaii vuvu-chan"). I figure I can go to a normal plastic surgeon later for better aesthetics, a surgeon who normal women see for sexy vag stuff.
>>6395514
Don't be sop sure you can go to a normal surgeon after. Many SRS docs cancel their granteed revisions if you do that and most other surgeons refuse to touch other surgeons work. Even then the surgeon needs to have some understanding of SRS otherwise they'll have a hard time reconfiguring your vagina to be kawaii. Most vagina surgery on cis women is just cutting off a bit of the labia minora.
Is puffy vulva possible from SRS?
Anyone know more about MB Bouman (dutch surgeon)?
All i can find is him with pictures of himself creepily laughing and a pdf with drawn pictures of the procedure.
The only result i've seen was from another mtf, the outside looked nice, not sure about the inside. No specifics either (sensitivity, all parts, complications, etc.).
Its like this man creates mystery vagina's that nobody talks about.
>>6397167
Yea my vulva is pretty puffy.
>>6397167
yeah mine is kinda puffy if I have the right picture in my head of what you mean by puffy
>>6397167
I'm pretty sure it starts super puffy then gets less puffy over time.
>tfw no puffy srs vulva
Wtf did the sargent use apple maps ?
http://i.imgur.com/R6szRQv.jpg
>>6405593
Oh god what is that?
>>6405593
What the fuck? Who's the surgeon?
>>6405593
That's unfortunate.
S-shes smiling, at least.
>>6407023
Suporn
>>6405593
You know what, on second thought, I think being a girl with a penis is ok.
>>6407857
citation pls
>>6407857
>When everyone you know is going for Dr Meme.
>Hit or miss, which will it be for my friends ;-;
>>6407857
You can tell it's not true because the outside is clearly made of testicle skin and Suporn specifically uses penile skin on the outside.
Meme off.
>>6398977
How much puffyness did you lose since the surgery? I know that they start out really puffed up and bruised.
>>6408284
Look at the list of OP Suporn-ginas the 420chan horror story and another below it have similar looking skin despite being from Suporn.
Because it's not scrotal skin, rather it's perineal skin.
>>6409015
I am OP. Look at the unsorted vaginas. There's tons of bad thai ones that share a lot of problems in common. It's because they can't afford non butchers.
>>6389090
Do some real reasearch.
>>6407874
Chaser.
>>6375273
Who is this?
