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post your LGBT personal heroes or who you think are good role models for the rest of the community

This is Peter Thiel, co-founder of paypal.
In the last decade he's donated his time and money to bringing G@wker (a slimy e-gossip rag) to justice. Scum who inexplicably believed they had the moral authority to lecture people on social issues and political ethics.

http://archive.is/zoRvV
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>bourgeois
>admire

post artists
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>>6308645
the list goes on
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>>6308613
Harry Whyte

http://www.kaleidoscot.com/harry-whyte-the-gay-scot-who-challenged-stalin-3405
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>>6308784
Russian communists were straight retarded anyways. The Germans were okay but they all got genocided.

Even a talentless hack like Rand approved of gay marriage in the 30s. Dunno why so many gays gravitate towards Marx.
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>>6308875
>Dunno why so many gays gravitate towards Marx.
Because so many gays and youths are blatantly fucking retarded and don't know what life was like under communism, and even today.
>inb4 muh no troo communism
kys commie scum
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>>6308891
I mean socialism is okay but full-on Marxism is equivalent to wanting to live in 1940s Germany. Queers need to learn this.
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>>6308652
This, Queer, Junkie, and the Nova Trilogy are a must for any lgbt person.

The beat generation was the most important literary movement for gay people.
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>>6308613
I'm a regular looking and acting dude who happens to not limit who he has romantic or sexual relationships with based on gender. Sometimes people tell me I'm one of the good ones and that shit makes me want to strap a dildo to my face and parade around in public just to spite them. I don't want anyone treating my behaviour as an endorsement of their disgusting discriminatory ideology.
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>>6309083
>wow u totally don't act black at all!!
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>>6308891
Oh hi /pol/

Any not every socialist state or "communist country" was/is anti-gay.
True that the Soviet Union (post Lenin) was anti-gay but this wasn't the case everywhere. East Germany was actually more accepting of homosexuals than West Germany and in the modern era, Cuba is pretty good with LGBT rights in general with state-funded gender reassignment surgeries a thing. Even North Korea with it's insanity, doesn't outlaw homosexuality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_and_homosexuality

And for the record; I don't consider myself a communist because I believe the state and a national identity are still important aspects of society.
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>>6309172

You're assuming he was referring to conditions for gays specifically and not just how things sucked for everyone in general.
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>>6309172
>commie apologist
It makes me angry that people like you are actually saying North Korea isn't so bad, and Cube isn't so bad. I don't even go to that shit hole /pol/, but my family escaped communism and it boggles my mind that Starbucks-drinking-macbook-surfing westerners cry the joys of Socialism/Marxism having never lived under it.
And Western Marxists always resort to the no true Scotsman fallacy. Marxism is a living hell and the only equality you will find is that everyone suffers and is impoverished equally, except for the corrupt government elite.
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>>6309172
it's not really /pol/ tier, what he said is somewhat accurate from a historical standpoint. the USSR was awful, and look at Russia today.

the German communists pre-Nazis were the clear winners in ideology, but they got wiped out and East Germany post-WW2 was a Stalinist occupation.
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>>6309218
If you went back and read my post, you'd realise I'm not a Marxist.
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>>6309226
>but they got wiped out
Not exactly.
The SED was made up of pre WW2 German communist parties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Unity_Party_of_Germany

That said, it was more or less controlled by Moscow.
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>>6309257
>controlled by Moscow
exactly.

>>6309218
Socialism would be okay, all the government has to do is make a few less cruise missiles and help its own populous. It's really not a pipe-dream like full blown communism, but it definitely wouldn't work in the US at the moment.
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>>6308891
>he doesn't understand dialectics
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>>6309218
>Discussing the horrors of communism
>Includes a picture of a social democrat
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>>6309410
Finally someone who understands the difference between a socialist/communist and a social democrat.
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To get this thread back on topic, James Randi is absolutely based.
He's an ex magician who spends his time debunking psychics and the like. He's old as shit, but came out a few years ago. What's cool is that he wasn't ashamed of being gay, just private about it.

On the flip side is Oliver Sacks, who passed away last year. He was a neuropsychologist focusing on perception , including some really interesting stuff on hallucinations.
In his youth, he tripped on acid, rode a motorbike, and did bodybuilding.
Unfortunately he only came out in his autobiography, a few months before he died. It seems like he was really ashamed of it, to the point that his biographer gave up writing about him because he wouldn't let him include it.
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>>6309410
>not understanding that """""social democrat"""""", socialism all have the same end goal, to transition to complete Communism.
But you are idiot that reads Chinese childrens cartoons, there is no sense in talking with you so I will leave you with quote from Lenin.
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>>6309898
You're taking that out of context.
The goal of socialism in the Soviet Union was to pave the way for communism. Socialism had existed for awhile before communism, so it's a fallacy to consider them the same thing.
Besides, Sanders isn't even a proper socialist.

Try again, /pol/
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>>6309830
I know Jasper Johns gets really pissed when you mention that he is gay.
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>>6309172
>Cuba is pretty good with LGBT rights in general
There is rampant homophobia and transphobia in cuba. I am 2nd generation cuban american. Just cause you can get a 3rd rate bottom surgery, doesnt mean its a good place for queers and trannies.

Also, Marx didnt think his writing applied to Russia and was surprised that it was popular there. He saw them as some weird agrarian society, not a capitalist one. He wasnt a "this is a solution for everyone" or "best way to live" type guy. He was a sociologist documenting what he thought was the most likely outcome for the emerging mode that is capitalism.
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>>6308613
Justice in one hand, free speech's carcass in the other. I don't think what Gawker did was right, but I don't think that what Thiel is doing about it is the right approach either. But in his shoes...
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>>6309830
Yes to both! I just discovered James Randi, spent a whole night watching him debunk people on YouTube.

I wouldn't call him a hero but it makes me happy that Tim Cook is out and one of the most influential and well known CEOs. Michel Foucault and Oscar Wilde and Virginia Woolfe are great. I love the letters she wrote to her girlfriend. If anyone likes Oscar Wilde, the fake interview with him on The Dead Authors podcast (hosted by Paul F Tompkins!) is goddamn hilarious.
There are a lot of random internet celebs (or "celebs") that made me feel more confident about being gay. I'm really tired and I can't think of specific people but this is a great thread topic, thank you OP. I wanna see more like this on /lgbt/.
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>>6316276
'Perfect purity is possible if you turn your life into a line of poetry written with a splash of blood.'
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>>6319894
>free speech
The best way to not be successfully sued for defamation, damages, etc. is to not do them. The reason they lost the Hogan suit is because their actions were unprofessional and the story was not newsworthy. Problem with Gawker is that they want the best of being a scummy tabloid and a respectable news outlet at the same time.
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>>6309218
Libertarian socialists hate the USSR and Cuba just as much as any capitalist scumbag, but for different reasons.
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>>6319894
see >>6319993

It wouldn't have been necessary for a rich benefactor to get involved in the first place if they themselves hadn't had backers with deep pockets and made sure to target people who they believed couldn't or wouldn't fight back.

They weren't just sued for some spurious, fabricated bullshit. Thiel's money did not buy a magic lawyer that could get a favorable ruling regardless of charges, evidence, circumstance, etc. They lost because they were in the wrong and they came up against someone who had the funds to challenge them.
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>>6309218
We want to be like Norway or the UK pre-Thatcher, not Cuba or China or North Korea.
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