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So... I passed today. First time I've ever been 100% I passed. It was to a little old lady, yeah, but I still passed. Feels good.
>>6172447
STAY IN THE OLD THEEAS UNTIL IT HITS PAGE 9 AT LEAST
>>6172447
How can you guys even stand to look at pictures like that without wanting to off yourselves? Cause it makes me feel like shit to look at guys who will forever and always be better looking and more masculine looking than me, even when they're wearing makeup.
>>6172564
It's more like inspiration to me on good days, but there are days when any picture of a good-looking cis boy makes me want to die.
Advice on packers? I bought a Mr. Limpy S (would have got XS but they didn't have it in my skin tone on Amazon) yesterday. How should I best use it avoiding looking like I'm constantly really hard? Before anybody complains about Mr. Limpys, I'm poor.
>>6172594
That weirdly makes me feel better. I always feel like that's one thing where most trans guys don't relate with me on, so it's nice to know I'm not a total batshit pussy bitch and that someone else feels the same.
>>6172620
Yeah. Some days I can't even shop for clothes online because the models look far better than I ever could. I do have a folder of man inspiration, but I only look at it on very good days.
>>6172564
>those guys
>masculine
can't tell if sarcasm
>>6172656
Even the most effeminate model guys will always look more masculine than me...
>>6172605
I just put the dick bellow the balls and makes bulge and doesn't look like pornstar
also make a harness
Hey guys I want to know if my binder actually does something or it just jokes at me
also my mirror is clean, it just broke from the inside
>>6173069
it's a bit of a joke, but maybe you were expecting magic
>>6172649
Oh shit, I feel you anon.
I actually think at my lowest point I couldn't look at guys at all. I wasn't leaving the house at this point and only browsed 4chan so learned which threads and boards to avoid that would have pictures of men. I have no idea how I ever got over that but I thankfully did.
I don't think I could ever have an inspiration source though, just always makes me feel shit no matter if the day is good or bad.
>>6172656
It's certain traits, like the strong jawlines and pronounced brow bones.Those guys are not masculine in any traditional sense, but they have traits I just never will have, and that are nearly entirely exclusive to men.
Also this >>6172661
>>6173069
Looks like a binder. Are you a heavier dude? If so a little flab is okay. Also, the kind of shirt you're wearing makes a huge difference. I can't get away with just a t shirt. Button up shirts seems to work well, or a jacket/some sort of top over the t shirt to help conceal shit.
>>6173097
>I wasn't leaving the house
I know that feeling, there was a good couple weeks to 3 months I barely left my apartment (aside from really late at night to get food and other important household items).. being around cis guys, and not passing mentally broke me for awhile. it was sad as fuck.
>>6172564
I can't - even running across average cis guys my age in meat space make me want to shoot myself.
>>6173043
I'm getting a cheap jock strap off ebay to keep the packer in place. May work, may not work.
>>6173139
Don't size down too much or you won't be able to get the binder on at all.
I'm just starting packing, with a sock. I know this is a worksafe board, but would it be okay to post a pic of my sock-dick-bulge to see if it looks natural?
>>6173229
pants are safe for work
>>6173139
Where did you buy your binder from? I've stuck with Underworks and their size guide is pretty handy for getting the right fit.
>>6173122
>>6173212
Shit, I'm really sorry to hear that. I honestly have been hanging around ftmg for probably a little over a year now, and have never really met any guys that shared these awful feelings.
Of course, I mostly lurk and only post when drunk so that may have something to do with it. Regardless, this kind of shit is probably one of the hardest aspects of life to deal with, and I'm sorry you guys have to experience it.
>>6173223
yeah will do, I just finished to sew it and it's all good, thanks for the worry
>>6173216
anything with the circle to put the dick is well enough, just make sure is everything in place before going out, one time almost feel off on my foot
>>6173236
from ebay it was cheap as fuck($3) and I didn't had money back then, it's from janett brand or something like that, I'll check the size guide from underworks then, thanks
>>6173248
Aw shit you should just cave in and get an underworks binder.
>>6172605
So I'm mtf and a buddy of mine is ftm. And he got a packer one day. I went to his house to pick him up before a party and he had this bulge that looked like Ron Jeremy fully erect. I laughed so hard I almost peed myself. And then had to spend like 15 minutes explaining how to arrange a penis. I just never thought that a person wouldn't know how to have a penis. Good news though, the head of the dick should go below the balls. Unless you're a grower or have a small schlong.
>>6173278
I always figured it was a lefty/righty sort of deal.
Actually I think I read this on 4chan years ago
>tfw no one wants an ftm sex slave
>tfw if i hadn't transitioned i could be getting good dick on the daily
>>6173234
I want to know your pokemon companion
http://www.strawpoll.me/10182669
>>6173278
Thank you for that. You're a good person, anonette. Any tips for using a sock?
>>6173284
I guess it depends on how big your dick is flaccid and what kinda underwear that you're wearing. You do kinda want to angle it more downward though. Unless you like looking permanently aroused.
>>6173287
I dunno, he probably wouldn't let me walk around looking dumb. I'd hope. And how could I pass up the chance to show a man how to penis?
>>6173302
Well, try to keep the "head" of the sock less than an inch below the zipper. Otherwise it may look comically large. Also, don't do it with girl pants. Penis, meat or otherwise, plus girl pants is turrble.
>>6173097
The most of guys in the OP's picture have feminine jawlines tbqfh familia, I actually got a face shape like the guy in the bottom, down to the pointy nose.
Am I right in assuming most others here are on antidepressants? Or something to even out your mood anyway.
>>6173458
I probably should take some but nah. Hormones are the only drugs I take, lets me function well enough
>>6173458
>most
probably. but it's because we're on 4chan rather than because we're cuntboys
>>6172564
well... i don't find any of them attractive, but even if i did then i'd just find them attractive the same way i look at chicks i find attractive... and idk... i don't compare myself to other people like that, the way someone else looks doesn't really affect me on any level so i see it as a pointless thing for me to care about
>>6173458
i'm not... and i'd never take them after the accidental zoloft incident...
>>6173458
I was for a little while although they didn't do anything for me, so I stopped taking them so I wouldn't have a dependency problem too.
ayyy lmao nice choice for an OP pic
>>6174122
As long as you're tapering off gradually, you're safe.
>>6174122
eh i have depression issues, but i mean... i'm in a shitty position with a lot of shit wrong + i've been through a lot so i figure no shit i'm gonna have bad days... but i can handle it most of the time so i don't see a reason to take meds every day for it, i prefer to not be chemically dependent on shit that's unnecessary for me
also the time i took zoloft accidentally it made me suicidal, numb, felt like my insides were shaking, couldn't sleep, couldn't eat, and i spent a good 3 days burning myself on a space heater and shit to keep myself calm enough to not off myself... so that's just not something i'd fuck with, but it works for other people...
why are you switching meds?
>>6174219
Yeah, doc gave me a schedule but I'm coming down from a pretty high dose. Drug-free me might be worse than I remember, who knows.
>>6174242
I dunno, doctors tell me to do things and I go along with it. I was still having shitty moods and panic attacks on the old stuff so that's probably why.
Pretty sure my sister is on Zoloft or something like it. Really hoping every med change isn't putting me on something that'll make me feel like I'm dying.
>>6172564
I don't find a single one of them attractive. They look like pansies.
>>6173458
No, I hate them. They have actively made me worse. I didn't even want them. Most just zapped me of any energy and will to do anything, ruined my already shitty sleep schedule, couldn't be bothered to shower or eat, etc.
Going on T cured most of my bullshit, so I just take something for my anxiety sometimes.
>>6172564
I don't know, I kinda look like the second guy from the top (the one under the chink) just with a fish mouth
Also would bang in the ass third guy from the bottom
>>6172564
T will fix that for you. Not to mention those guys are an eyebrow shaping and a flowing wig away from looking like women anyway.
>>6172564
/mtfg/ here. reading this is surreal, like I just entered opposite land.
>>6174760
> mfw mtfs worry about only wanting to transition because "women have it better, who wouldn't want to be one"
>>6174670
It's not going to fix being a dickless manlet with wide hips.
>>6174872
Thnx for the reality check
>>6174879
Sorry, that's been bugging the fuck out of me for quite a while now.
>>6172447
uuuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhh
>>6172447
Friendly reminder that if you don't look at least this masculine pre-t you are a failure and should hang yourself
These look like women
>>6173284
>lefty/righty you say
>>6174854
Nice meme.
>>6174928
If I do will I end up being a qt man?
>>6175025
no you will end up being a female corpse
>>6175041
Dang.
>>6175201
delusional bitch
these gens are just full of shitposting and salt.
It's honestly been calmer over at the mtfg for Christ sake.
Sort yourselves out.
After surgery, what is the safest form of sex to prevent tearing/wounding. Does girl-girl provide wounds?
>>6175232
They didn't mention it, but those are the things that make me want to off myself sometimes when I see them in cis guys. Just let me whine in peace every once in a while, guys.
>>6175303
What?
>>6175299
>mtfg here
no it hasnt
>>6175303
>>6175366
I think he means internal wounds. The wounds on your soul.
The key is not to become committed.
>tfw you'll never have a harem of men and women and use the women as baby-vessels.
Why even live?
>>6174422
well antidepressants don't really do anything for anxiety unless the anxiety is caused by depression... so if that's an issue you have you might wanna consider seeing another doctor, cuz handing you meds you're gonna be dependent on for one thing when you have a separate issue isn't good...
i'm not saying antidepressants don't work for some people, but i think that's only when they're prescribed for clinical depression... not situational depression and not anxiety... and they really are overprescribed...
i know one not working doesn't mean another won't, but if you find yourself changing from antidepressant to antidepressant with no improvement and you're still having panic attacks really consider a different doctor
also... do you have any health issues? that sounds like a weird question, but like i've had panic attacks that were stress and anxiety related when i've been in really bad positions and whatnot... and i got good at recognizing and handling those, but i've also noticed that my health issues can cause them too... like i'll feel very specific sensations and kinds of pain and then suddenly i'll be having a panic attack over nothing, and i can tell that it's a physical issue and related to that (it's actually common with quite a few health issues, and so is depression) rather than like stress or an anxiety panic attack... it's weird, but yeah something else to consider... might not be a mental thing in your case...
>decide to lurk /ftmg/
>all these mtf posts
do they invade just about everything around here?
07715269983
>>6176519
Yup
ftmg, why is the only good porn art of trans guys furry shit? mtfs have plenty of good drawn porn for them.
If i started drawing non-furry ftm porn, would you buy it?
you guys are classy & i love you.
i thought i'd just say that.
ftmbae
>>6175299
hey, this one's not too bad so far
and like 50% of last thread's shitposting was because of nazifag
>>6177504
Careful bud you might jynx it with talk like that
>>6177277
I don't speak for anyone but myself but I like vanilla porn the most, whether it's girls or boys.
>>6177277
i really doubt that... furry porn always falls somewhere between really awful but mildly amusing and a trainwreck... none of it is actually good
but also nah not even kinda interested, art porn in general is just sorta boring to me... and i don't see a point in paying for porn when i can watch it for free or make my own
>>6177484
sause
>>6178360
i wouldn't know.
i found it during a regular visit to /g/.
being weird faggots is a thing on /g/ by the way.
fucking look @ the history in computer technology; we have alan turing, sophie wilson, probably many more. computer science is crawling w/ faggots
>>6177277
Ask /d/, they have some threads after all.
You can't be refused HRT just for having a mood disorder like BPD, right? A friend of mine is worried.
>>6178919
Yes you can.
>>6178951
Explain?
I have a male partner and might be transmasculine nonbinary (as opposed to ftm) but I don't know what the difference is, would this warrant a cause for additional appointments if I go to a gender clinic? What kind of thing would cause additional appointments as opposed to less? I've never been to a therapist or counselor before, desu I usually just google my problems. If I have some anxiety and occasional depression problems intertwined with my gender dysphoria, but continue to troubleshoot effective coping strategies and don't want them to attempt to intervene/ ask too many questions. Do I lie to them? Would they try to diverge? Are these issues within informed consent or WPATH protocol?
>>6178979
If a therapist catch on to borderline symptoms they will very hesitant to give out a trans diagnosis. Being borderline means an unstable personality and there has been more than a few cases of borderlines regretting transitioning. To prevent malpractice accusations and lawsuits the therapist will probably only give it clearance as an absolute last resort. At best it will delay the process, at worst it will prevent the patient getting any access to HRT.
>cruising craigslist in the vain hope of seeing something i could reply to despite perpetual fear of gettin' murdered
the thirst is overwhelming me gents
halp
..also jesus why is it overwhelmingly posts by bottom guys
>>6178979
>>6179018
To go on with what this anon was saying, there is a strong correlation/co-morbidity with BPD and transexuality (as a side note, this correlation is even stronger with those who identify as something like gender-fluid or non-binary or some shit). Naturally, doctors are much more inclinded to treat the mental illnesses rather than address transexuality, for a variety of reasons.
>>6179080
I should add he hasn't officially been diagnosed for BPD yet.
>>6179033
Bottoms are the thirstiest people ever. True tops are something of a rarity, particularly among homos on the internet. Just look at gaygen, or here evidently.
>>6179015
The difference is one is an unscientific snowflake term, the other is a well researched and historically established condition. Doctors have a tendency of treating each one accordingly.
Disclosure as always is entirely up to you, simply give them the answer you think is appropriate and move on. However dealing with the core issues surrounding your anxiety and depression is always a good idea, how you do that is up to you but it's usually best to have help from others trained in dealing with it.
See my above post, there is a correlation between transexuality and other mental illnesses. While this does not indicate causation, it doesn't rule out causation either. Doctors have the job of determining which one it is.
>>6179080
>>6179083
If it's an outside counsellor not associate with the GIC or doctors then it should be alright, counsellors have a duty of confidentiality outside of threats to harm oneself or others.
If he does get a diagnosis later, it could impact on his HRT.
>>6179080
Yes, he should do that IF he is somehow completely sure his potential BPD/other mental disorder is really not the cause of this.
Mental illnesses like that really, really can fuck up your perception of yourself(BPD people often dissociate, look for things that will make them feel more like a person/'completed'/real, etc) and with all the tumblrbullshit that has been going on for years - it's easy to see how unstable and impressionable people(mostly teens) automatically go to 'i guess i'm trans'.
If he already got his letter, I assume he's already been to doctors who have questioned him.
>>6179090
Thanks for the further explanation, SWG. Papa bless
>>6179109
Shalom
>there are people actively wanting to be 'cuntboys'
And I was having a hard time wrapping my head around femboys wanting tits...
>>6179626
Would you prefer to me to have a giant chunk of flesh scapeled off from another part of my body to be stitched up and molded together like some sort of organic playdough from hell to be my dick?
What happens if you have to go off T for longer periods of time. I work abroad for months at a time and won't have access to T while there. Will it fuck up my health in the long run? Also, any guys here got experience traveling in 3.world after transitioning? Any problems with visas, documents and such?
>>6179754
Why not ask your doctor or endocrinologist before working abroad about the health issues longterm? Is there no way you can have your medication mailed to you?
But in 3 months there shouldn't be too many changes, maybe you'll feel a bit sluggish or weakened, weight may fluctuate, periods might start up again.
No idea about the travelling though.
>>6179041
Sauce? Hope you're not confusing BPD with NSSI here.
>>6179863
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/2015-35982-001/
I can't be arsed to log onto my uni literature account, but in the further discussions, nonbinary people are shown to have covariance with BPD on a very significant scale.
>>6179626
How your visit to /d/ went, anon?
>>6179872
>nonbinary people are shown to have covariance with BPD on a very significant scale.
This actually rings true for every NB person I've encountered.
>>6179648
I think he meant cis guys wanting to be cuntboys
>>6179837
Ok. thanks.
>FtM also stands for "First time Mom"
Holy shit. It's like a cruel joke.
Wew.
>>6180017
Yeah I discovered that recently too. Sounds like a horror movie aimed at us.
>he thought he had it all figured out
>ba dum
>until one day
>ba dum
>he was expecting, the unexpected
>pregnancy test drops to the floor
>doorbell rings
>parents appear in the door way
>"WE'RE GOING RO BE GRANDPARENTS"
>Dad puffs on a cigar
>"I knew you'd change your mind."
>>6180084
This film needs a plot twist of some kind to further the arc and character development.
Maybe the splooge is from an MtF or something.
>>6180096
>Oh also who is the lucky man?
>its a mtf
That's hilarious.
I wouldn't know how the 'just get an abortion' gets solved though. Or maybe the movie just ends there because that is obviously the best solution. Unless the boyfriend/father died in a car crash or some bullshit and both family sides want it + guilt.
Who do we cast for this?
>>6179872
>http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/2015-35982-001/
Thanks.
I'm more interested in the correlation of BPD and transsexuality in transsexuals or specifically FtMs, but that article doesn't mention BPD. Got anything on that? Don't link if that's actual effort, I can find the full text myself if I got a title or whatever.
>>6180111
>I wouldn't know how the 'just get an abortion' gets solved though.
Easy, he doesn't know he's pregnant until it's too late. Because no periods.
>>6180154
man gonna throw himself down the stairs if that happens
Anyone here start there doses with 25mg/w? Endo wants my body to slowly adjust to the hormones, which I can understand. But does anyone here have any experience with it? Switching to 50mg/w after 6 weeks.
>>6180159
A fetus is actually pretty hard to kill by a fall or something similar, it's well-protected by amniotic fluid and stuff.
>>6180177
Really? Can't say I've tried, honestly. But I heard the first trimester is when shit usually goes down but after that they are pretty hardy.
>>6180185
It's difficult to find info on the effects of a t-taking ftm that's pregnant. I only ever see warnings but they don't go into anything specific other than 'may cause harm'. And it's a complete myth that T is basically birth control. You can still get pregnant, it just heavily lowers the risk of it. I saw some reddit ftms talking about how they got an o-shit pregnancy but I don't remember if they wanted to keep it or not. If they did, I would imagine they would have to go off T immediately. Maybe even get estrogen drugs from a doctor or something. Pretty much all pregnant ftms I've read about and went through with it had gone off of T.
>>6179090
tops really aren't all that rare, that's like 85% of the gay guys who hit on me (the rest are vers), but i pretty much never interact with bottoms...
though a lot of tops (in my experience) are looking for relationships not just sex which is probably why they're harder to find on places like craigslist
>>6179033
why craigslist?
+ idk, i've never actively gone looking for sex like that, and i think a bottom has hit on me all of once in my life... there's a lot of tops though, but a fair amount of them are surprisingly clingy...
>>6180185
It's not impossible to get pregnant on T, some places explicitly tell you that it's not a contraceptive and you need to take other precautions. Don't think it kills the fetus once you're pregnant...
I remember someone on livejournal who got pregnant from his mtf bf and didn't know about it until pretty late in the pregnancy, so he was on T until that point.
remember to use condoms everyone
>>6180276
I'm ready.
>>6180280
hell yeah, time to fuck
>>6180269
>mtf bf
gf?
>>6180185
>>6180209
I really doubt a fetus could survive if the FtM carrying in question was still taking T, and if it does it's probably going to have some kind of deformity or disorder or otherwise turn out nonviable.
Unless they come off T, and this is what FtM have to do in order to get pregnant in the first place.
I also read sometime ago that 70-90% of FtMs on T stop producing eggs anyway, so shouldn't be possible by quite a lot if you have stable levels of hormones in the right range.
>>6180360
>stop producing eggs
you're born with tons of them, it isn't like sperm that's regularly produced, they're already there
>>6180302
Yup, that was unintentional.
>>6180400
Oops must have missed that but I did intend to write "released" instead of produced. Ah well.
>>6180360
Again, you can get pregnant while on T.
There's no data on the effects of testosterone on the fetus in humans for obvious reasons, but we have a rat model (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11752687).
Offspring was viable even on high doses, females were masculinized. Most likely you'd end up with pretty normal XY kids and intersex XX kids.
TFW I sorta passed before my meds caused me to gain a shit ton of weight.
Anyone else fighting against weight gain?
>>6180555
>tfw been bulking since November
>tfw lost 4 lbs since then
I suck at eating for some reason. Teach me eating skills?
>>6180586
The sad thing is, I don't eat a ton. I'm on a medication that has weight gain as a side effect. I was gaining /healthily/ before then, just from working a high-activity job and going heavy on the protein. 20 lb muscle gain in around six months. Which was wonderful, until 60lb of fat landed on top of that.
>>6180622
That sucks. What medication is it? Any way to change to a less damaging one?
>>6180555
that sucks... but nah, it's hard for me to gain weight cuz i'm really fucking limited with what i can eat, and it's hard for me to really give a shit about eating when nearly everything i eat causes some level of pain...
are you on prednisone or some shit?
>>6180622
what's your usual calorie intake?
>>6180674
Around the average. 1500-2000, but I've been making the mistake of thinking that I could just eat my usual on a med that effects the metabolism negatively. Now that I'm trying harder to loose weight, I'm working on backing down to 1200 a day.
>>6180733
is it a medicine you're gonna be on for a while or is it something that's temporary? i mean yeah either way you gotta eat with the meds in mind, but it's possible to lose weight on them... not necessarily as much as you'd like but still...
+ if you keep lifting and shit you'll masculinize yourself over time even with the extra weight... really work on your shoulders, arms, and upper back
>>6180938
- "keep" my bad... the physical job shit and the muscle gain + protein shit threw me off when i wrote the response, you should lift though it'll help extra weight or not
do i even want T
am i even FtM
did i simply get the tumblr disease
is this really worth it
shouldn't i just shoot mtf titty skittles into myself and try to be cis
maybe my trannyness is just hormonal imbalance and i need some titty skittles and to train myself
>>6181247
>/blogpost/
Yes you are tumblr. Please go.
>>6181266
not that poster, but you are cancer.
>>6181322
Thanks man :)
>>6181247
>shouldn't i just shoot mtf titty skittles into myself and try to be cis
>maybe my trannyness is just hormonal imbalance and i need some titty skittles and to train myself
I was on hormonal birth control for period issues around the same time I first started questioning being trans. It made me even more miserable than previously
anyone else got kinda a fatface the first months of T? if yes when does it end? my face looks chuby but my body not too much
>>6181965
Eh...this doesn't really bother me, for some reason. I don't get it, but I can kind of see the "convenience" argument. Nevermind that post-SRS sex can take almost as much preparation as anal.
>>6180219
Mostly craigslist for the pure anonymity and it's skeezy enough that it's just beyond my threshold for wanting to really attempt anything.
Cause I mean. I want the D? But the prospect of actually getting it is nightmarish because of the potential human connected to it. I'm paranoid about people, not half as chill as you, bro.
Robodickings when, science. I thought the future was now.
>>6182267
didn't occur to me you were just looking with no interest... and eh i get being paranoid about people, but why not just hook up with a friend or something then?
>>6182841
+ no interest in follkw through i mean... i'm a little bit drunk
>>6182850
follow* my bad...
>>6182841
>friends
yeah i uh
don't have many of those to start with.
I don't wanna make it weird with the few I do have, besides which, the dudes are all straight. I actually do have a casual, very occasional thing with a female friend, because she's willing to draw clear lines and I've known her for years. But it's kinda not all that I want?
People scare me, basically. I dunno man. I'm still getting over it.
>check out phallo blog
>"photos"
>mfw
Scars I have no problem with but, fuck me, that healing process would take a lot of metal to deal with.
So I just lost my job... How would I go about selling my body for quick cash? Can I canwhore? Should I just post on backpage or something? I've thought about driving out to California to see if I can be in a bonusholeboys video or something but I dunno if I'm hot enough to be in porn. I totally pass so I can't pretend to be a chick.
>>6182989
be a man and get it done.
>tfw still waiting on stage 1 date
such a long wait
>>6179033
Just post something yourself. I get the D on the daily p much from randos on CL. Sometimes it'll be a straight dude going for easy pussy but who needs self respect?
>>6182924
oh... could always make new friends... idk i think maybe it's been so long that i don't understand being single... i mean, last time i was single i was in hs, and then we're open too... so for me it's kinda like, whether or not there's anyone else i'm still getting laid...
do you really just want sex though or do you actually want something more than that?
what scares you about people btw? i mean, i'll be honest... for me more than anything the thing that scares me the most about other people is the possibility of ever giving a shit about them, other than that though there's nothing that bothers me... i actually turned my s/o down when he first asked me out cuz i was scared of what caring even more was gonna turn into... i fucking absolutely hate caring about people... everything else is whatever to me, just that...
>>6182989
i don't think i could handle getting bottom surgery honestly... i get weird and depressed if i haven't had sex in a few days, i'm pretty sure that would make me go crazy... like i'd rather be dysphoric about what i have forever than not have sex for even a fucking month... i just don't see the proper trade off cuz it's not like the end result is spectacular, shit can go wrong, can't use it right away... just nope... i'd rather be the kinda miserable i'm used to with that shit
>>6183011
idk... i've always just had people approach me with offers, i've never followed through though... but just like any social media + non sexual pictures and offers happen...
>>6183044
I embarrass easily I guess, and my last relationship I was pretty much getting used for room and board. I don't get out of my comfort zone a lot. It tends not to end well.
>>6183103
that's shit... my last relationship (well my s/o and i dated this chick together) was a weird as shit fucking trainwreck pretty much... in a way i think it put me off of chicks a bit, which is probably stupid cuz i mean they're not all engaged with kids beforehand and shit but yeah...
i could see why that'd put you off of shit though, was that literally what it was or how it made you feel? i'm just asking cuz the two aren't necessarily related, i mean... i'll take your word for it, but at the same time sometimes really thinking about shit (on your end) helps...
it's kinda crazy how one bad experience can be so offputting for future unrelated ones isn't it?
i'm like way drunker than i though... also jack daniels honey whiskey > captain morgan spiced rum, had them back to back and there's a huge fucking difference
>>6183139
thought*
>>6183139
I was mostly just naive as fuck about a lot of things? Dude was an impulse liar, it was his automatic response to any problems. He wasn't in a good place so I think I was a vaguely safer space to crash in. I've looked at my own part too, but.. yeah. It wasn't a good situation.
I should get the fuck over it but brief forays haven't turned out too well either. Baby steppin' that shit.
..fuck yeah though I love Honey Jack.
>>6183257
you know what's funny is i left out all the really weird shit about that relationship and point in my life... like all the shit i consider weird i never mention, i tell people the more normal shit
>>6183269
eh it can take a bit to get over shit sometimes... everyone heals at different rates, and that's a pretty damaging thing to go through i can see why it'd fuck with you longterm
this is actually the first time i've had honey jack... we had it kicking around since st patrick's day, but i avoided it cuz i had jager, wine, codeine, and weed... and whiskey can fuck me up bad, but i just figured fuck it... it is really good though, better than just regular whiskey
>>6183257
i'm already ready. Finding out phalloplasty was a thing is what actually made me decide to transition. Anyway with 3 stages (+ complications) and healing time, I really want to get started asap
>>6183316
When you get it done you should post pictures for us, especially after all the stages are completed which might be awhile aways from now, but still. There's barely ever any "finished/fully healed" phallo photos out there and I'm kind of curious myself, personally I don't want full phallo (definitely clit release tho) but I want to see more about it and since there's barely any pictures on the internet about it... Like I don't think I want it, but how can I actually be sure if I've never seen what it look like after it's finished ya know. Even if you post in images in an imgur album and delete them like a few days after you link it here you should think about it.
Facial hair finally in
Voice is still girly
Do I pass
>>6184604
Yes. Congrats. You don't have the manlet face going. Can I assume you're tall?
>>6184604
femboy here, you look really good and pass 1000%
>>6184683
5'5" unfortunately.
>>6181247
let me pound your pucci with my girltinkler and we'll see
>>6185026
Could be a lot worse. I'm 5'2" myself. Get yourself a pixie girl or a tiny boytoy, and you'll look taller.
>>6184604
You look like you'd pass even without facial hair
>>6184470
Have you looked at the link in the OP?
>>6184604
>that much facial hair
>'girly' voice
So this is either a troll or you're a lisping flamer
So I have an underworks binder, and even though it's pretty worn in and I'm pretty small chested (don't know if that matters or not but throwing it in in case it does) it takes a number on my middle and upper back, does anyone else here have similar problems?
Is there any binders out there that won't do this ? or am i just going to have to suffer through it?
>>6185169
Binders really suck for your long term health and can cause permanent damage. You suck it up until you get top surgery.
I use Underworks because that's what has worked the best for me but if you are tiny and petite you, I hear good things from I think it's called Tkingdom. I had one but I really didn't like the velcro in the front so I just gave it away.
From Underworks I also like the binders you can tuck into your pants. I find it less constricting around my back and chest, evens out the tightness. It can do a number on my shoulders though from rubbing due to a lot of physical activity.
>>6185193
I wouldn't consider myself tiny or petite just on the flat side, i'm pretty broad shouldered as well.. dunno if that might be adding to it. but if i go up another size it'll be way too loose in the chest to do anything.
I really like the long binders, they kinda help with my hip area being a big problem for me as well.
I try my best to not wear it unless i'm going out because it starts to feel like i need to pop my back constantly.
>>6185169
GC2B binders is the way to go if you have small boobs and can't the compression Underworks has
>>6185232
thx m8
>>6181432
Not talking only about those skittles, I'm also talking about spiro/whatever the shits called
I was naturally born with more-masculine-than average physique overall, especially my shoulders/ribcage, I'm scared that because I make an uglyass girl, my mind subconsciously thinks "hey man, let's be a guy then, you'll be attractive"
to which stems to the question "would you rather be an ugly guy or an ugly girl"
To which
I have no fuckin idea man id rather not be ugly at all yet here we are
>>6185169
Strengthen your core and back muscles (plank variations, pushups etc). I swear I get back pain every time I don't exercise for an extended period, and it goes away completely once I start doing this again.
I've been wearing an underworks binder daily for a year or so, no issues whatsoever. I'd comfortable enough to sleep in if I wasn't slightly worried about breathing problems.
>>6185169
I wear an Underworks XS and never have back pains. It's a bit big for me now, but even when it fit I never had back pain. What's your posture like? Good posture is very important with binders.
>>6181965
For some reason that makes me feel better about the fact that I'll never have a dick.
>>6184470
>trying to get dick pics before he has a dick
>>6184470
>definitely clit release tho
you mean metoid?
Is there nothing in the OP? It is going to take a while for it to be fully healed...but I mean, it all depends on your surgeon as well as your own body. There was a documentary on trans people that showed the results of phallo - the first time I'd ever realised it was possible - and I got to tell you, it was pretty convincing; all the mtfs even agreed that it looked good. Unfortunately, I can't find the documentary now so I can't link you to it, but yeah, I think your best bet is to keep looking on tumblr and facebook 2bh.
Is it a closet ftm thing to want to be punished for "not knowing your place" because you've been dressing up like a guy and "pretending" to be a guy.
If not then what kinda fetish is that?
Also unrelated. Did any of you ever steal your brother's boxers growing up?
>>6186827
>If not then what kinda fetish is that?
it finally happened
sissy humiliation the other way around
>>6186827
I have a really fucked up fantasy about being "discovered" in the bathroom and gang raped.
>>6187094
i'm listening
>>6186827
>>6187014
>>6187094
w-why
>>6187173
probably because testosterone makes you get off on more taboo fetishes
at least, in my experience
>tomboymode closet case
>shorts season approacheth
>mfw
I don't want to shave my legs again.
>>6187206
It's more the novel idea of finding a reverse trap or such like in the mens toilets then passing them around all the other guys to have a go.
I'm usually a bit out there with fetishes and stuff, but I didn't realise I had this one.
>>6187173
I have a pretty big thing for humiliation and non consent. I want cis guys to make me feel like a "lesser" guy for my equipment. Like "yeah you're a man, but you have an extra hole so you exist to be used."
>>6187240
y-you need to stop
>>6187245
Actually it's more tomboys and reverse traps. Girls who try to act like guys, not guys born in the wrong body.
>>6187255
>getting off on a post where an ftm describes sexual humiliation, in a situation where he is still considered by everyone involved as a man
you can call me inspector columbo because this case is closed family
>>6187255
fag
>>6187275
I-it's situational your honour I swear
>>6187286
it's ok i can understand to your dick reverse traps and non-passable ftms are basically the same thing
feel free to change your name to heteroflexible white guy any time soon
>>6187298
I guess I'm gonna have to start hanging out in more public toilets now.
Gee, thanks anon.
>>6187336
I 100% pass though desu senpai
>tfw no way to let cis guys know I'm rapeable
>>6187355
Where there's a will there's a way, don't give up on your dreams you submissive fetishist.
>>6186827
>Did any of you ever steal your brother's boxers growing up?
Father's.
can't you just
grab an uterus and rip it inside out and shape it into a dick and
fuckin
drill a hole in the middle
Fuck
The closest thing ive ever seen was a porn vid of "extreme pussy pumping"
Stuff was all hanging out
Yeah probably not a good idea aye
>>6187413
>extreme pussy pumping
No it's OK, I didn't want an appetite for the rest of my life
>>6187413
alternatively, there's phallo.
>>6187094
>tfw whenever ftms post their stories about getting raped i get off super hard imaging myself in that situation
>1 million bonus points if they get creampied against their wishes
feels good/bad man
>>6187495
you aren't in oklahoma are you?
When I was a toddler, I decided to pee while standing up. I didn't have a dad so who knows why I thought to do this. Piss got everywhere, my mom found out, and I became a closeted boy. Occasionally though, as I got older, I would try again to "pee the right way" and it was just as messy, so I pretty much gave up.
I started hormones about a half year ago and on a whim, decided to make another attempt to pee standing up. It was flawless and not a fluke as I've done it several times now. I'm confused yet happy at this development, as it helps me pass better in the men's bathroom.
>>6187639
...how?
>>6187659
I dunno, dude. Obviously I didn't magically grow a dick, yet I also don't have to hold or maneuver anything down there to do it. All I can think is the T growth down there that I did experience helps the piss stream move along just right.
>>6187691
Sorry, let me be more specific: how does it help youpass better? Surely to piss at a urinal you'd have to pull your pants all the way down?
>>6187659
My cis sister can piss standing. I think it's some weird anatomy shit.
>>6187733
Technically, anyone can piss standing. I've done it before...but I don't understand how you could do it at a urinal without pulling everything down...which is not what you're supposed to do at a urinal.
>>6187795
then how does it help you pass better at the men's bathroom?
>>6187818
Have you never observed the distinct different sounds between a man and woman peeing?
>>6187953
No one is listening to you pee...I hope this is a joke
>>6187953
just don't push out too hard, so it sounds like a cat hiss or just get an stp
>>6187962
I listen to people pee, anon. You should too.
>>6188007
There's cis guys who fantasize about have a vagina and getting dominated. Hell, some of them get off on the idea of being impregnated. If something that makes me miserable looking in the mirror feels good when I get pounded then I'll just make the best of the shit hand I was dealt.
any ftms want an mtf gf? we can be dysphoric together <3
>>6188116
Been there done that. Girls are crazy, so I'm going gay k thnx.
>>6187217
don't do it then what's the worst that can happen
>>6185376
I've been doing yoga to stretch my back / shoulders out since I carry all my stress there which helps a bit. I just bought some free weights so I'm probably just going to add 40 or so minutes of strength and focus more on my lower back and core, since I haven't been really working out nearly as much as I should be.
>>6185692
It's not great, I stand up straight the majority of the time, but lab work keeps me hunched over a desk a lot.
Thanks for all the advice.
>>6187217
same but i hardly ever leave the house so it's whatever
>>6187217
Shaving and then feeling like shit about it was what finally forced my lazy ass to transition. Try it son, feel miserable and realize that being a boy kicks ass.
>>6188771
I shaved a couple months back to test the waters actually, felt like all my good work was literally going down the drain. And I was so fucking aware of my jeans TOUCHING me, kept scratching at my legs like a spaz.
>>6188135
People think it's feminist political statement or some shit, I guess. Then again, do hairy feminists actually exist or is that a TV archetype?
Gets me thinking. How much is visible body hair a factor in whether you're read as male or female? What are my chances of being seen as a gross girl rather than a young dude?
>>6188930
>Gets me thinking. How much is visible body hair a factor in whether you're read as male or female? What are my chances of being seen as a gross girl rather than a young dude?
hmmm honestly most of it is how you dress unless you have a really strong jawline, most passing is about clothes , or at least seems to me.
most of hairy feminist I have seen have the buzzcut and floral dresses, or some kind of femenine clothes. while a dude, for those to be seen is wearing shorts or the like
and I dunno, on middleschool I didn't shave and I didn't accept that I was trans, I just didn't care about my hairy legs and was funny to make jokes
>>6188930
>Then again, do hairy feminists actually exist or is that a TV archetype?
They exist and they're pretty gross looking. They're called legbeards for a reason. They also don't shave their pits either
>>6189338
>They also don't shave their pits either
...do you?
>>6189362
Yeah, it's the only thing I shave. I trim my pubes though, if that counts
Clothes and hair won't save you if you're 5 foot 4 with huge tits.
>>6189492
>5'1 with huge tits that barely fit in a binder
it's the struggle fampai
>women who want to be men
why
>>6189539
bad bait senpai
>>6189502
It's not even worth it man, just be a butch lesbian or something.
>>6189492
> tfw 5' 4''
oh but country of manlets
i'm okay with this
>>6189687
>>6172564
I have an older brother. He looks almost exactly like my father, who was alpha enough to be with all the women he ever wanted from age 19 to now, at nearly 70. Aside from being somewhat of a manlet, he's handsome as fuck, talented, and also has never had any issues dating any girl he wanted.
This is what I have to compete with. This is who I have to defeat, despite being born with one wrong chromosome. The one thing I can take comfort in is that if I manage to surpass them no one can fucking stop me in anything I do.
>>6191544
Why do see your brother as competition, that seems pretty fucked up and unhealthy.
>>6191557
I'm not actively competing with him, it's just that he's set my standard for masculinity, so to speak. Right now I'd be considered an average beta nerd like pretty much every other anon, and while that passes perfectly that's not my end goal. I want to keep growing as a person and not be complacent anymore.
>>6191557
Brothers compete. It's normal and commonplace.
>>6191626
Exactly. He's my role model and my rival, as an older brother should be.
>>6191666
>being this pathetic
>>6188134
I actually would like mtf gf but I never met one irl and only talked to one online and she wasn't my type let's say. Since I'm short and skinny (170 cm 53 kg) I wouldn't want a gf bigger/taller than me because complexes and I suppose it's hard to find a smol mtf
