Alright, LGBT I want you to get shit off your chest here and now. I'll start.
I don't believe that there should be any more than 5 forms of identity and 5 forms of sexuality that deserve actual recognition. Anything else can be subcategorized within one of the 5.
Heterosexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals, asexuals, and pansexuals. Women, men, androdynous, agender, and gender queer.
Now, I don't really care about it. But when someone says they're some shit like they're gender fluid or they're some super special snowflake type of identity, it bugs me. Like, they fall under genderqueer, and that should be all they really need to identify with. There's no reason for a comprehensive list of 40+ forms of identity imho.
I also believe he, she, and they are the only pronoun types that should be used seriously in society.
I also don't believe in aromantics being a legitimate community. Romance can take many forms, and to say you can't have a strong emotional connection with somebody is something I find retarded.
I'm a moderate leftist, still believe in the gender spectrum, and recognize transgenderism as a real thing. I don't agree with the mentality of farleftist/sjw bullshit however.
AGP is just GID under a different name
Femboys that take hormones are trannies
99% of the trannies here are cancer
I literally hate every MtF tranny with the exception of 100% passing trannies
Bamp.
I transitioned because of a fetish and now i'm stuck living as a girl and will probably never be able to go back to being a guy.
>>6169666
>100% passing trannies
example?
>>6169666
Nah. AGP is just a fetish. That is all. and if you cant pass you probably should get plastic surgery. Whats the point of being a woman if your not being viewed as a sexual object. That is all they are good for. Thats why agp is fetish. Because they desire themselves to be desirable.
Androgynous, agender and gender queer all choose to be repented as either male or female.
Today androgynous just means looking feminine. Agender and gender queer just means you want to wake up one day and represent yourself as either male or female.
Even with all these labels everyone either wants to be seen as a man or a woman.
>>6170586
Well, there are people who prefer gender neutral pronouns and shit. But yeah, that's why I think those 5 forms of identity are all that should matter in public. I'm getting sick of seeing all these special snowflakes demanding their "identity" be recognized when it's just a subform of another.
I've been seen as bigoted because of this point of view but I don't see how.
>>6169614
Am I on Reddit?
Male, female, gay, straight.
Rest are either technicalities or bullshit made up terms. For example, asexual is not a orientation because these people supposedly have none (even though I strongly doubt it's even a thing). Pansexual is just a bi that fucks trannies. Bisexual is both gay and straight depending on situation and doesn't require its own category.
Regarding gender, you can be a feminine man/masculine woman, etc. The faggiest of femboys who may look like a girl half the time is still basically a guy.
>>6170627
Damn, son. I'm sorry but imagining a person saying "I'm gay and straight" just sounds retarded.
>>6170660
Maybe excluding bi was an overkill. Still, I can imagine a very few situation in which declaring yourself bi would be beneficial in any way while being able to function as straight still has so many advantages.
>>6170691
This guy knows what's up. Being bi is as bad as being gay to straigh people. We just say were straight and talk about girls. No straight guy wants to be around a gay guy that might find him attractive. It's like having an ugly gal constantly following you around.
Agp as a concept is 100% accurate even if blanchard's methodology is poor
Most trannies here are just gay male escapists who dream of a better life as a girl like in their animes
>>6170715
>It's like having an ugly gal constantly following you around.
kek'd
>>6170727
I know you are probably trolling for (you)'s with this post, but sometimes I wonder if this is true for several that post on /lgbt/ and just I smhtbhfam at them. I guess it's their own life to do with as they please but man I hope for them that that's not the case.
>>6170786
That isn't a troll post at all
>>6170727
This is 100 percent accurate. That's probably why 4chan is a breeding ground for these people. Were all young males, interested in video games and anime. We have (for one reason or another) little to no success with females throughout our lives. This creates a fox and the grape vine ordeal in which females become less desirable because we cant get them. Then traps come along. Female appearance, but you can relate to them on a mental level (because of a male mind). After being sexless for too long, your sexuality comes into question. Watching porn and anime reinforce the ol' grass is greener. Porn focuses on women, and seeing another man fuck the girl desensitizes you to the dick. Most, if not all, anime is written by old jap dudes, so the female characters often have idealized personalities and characteristics that men can relate to. This makes you think that this his how girls think (when it's not). Then the older trannies start to convince you that your feelings are a sign that your a transvestite. It works because how many "happy" trans people just like you are on this website. This board itself is like a festering hive of a very small amount of trans, and a large amount of fake trans who through this very odd process have been convinced by life that they are actually a girl. Im not going to bother proof reading so this might sound a bit off, but this is my theory. Socially, we find people like us and start adopting their mannerisms and what not to better relate to them. Stick on /lgbt/ for too long and it'll be too late.
>>6170916
the opposite happened to me, then again I was never interested in video games or anime.
>>6170931
What do you mean the opposite? You were a tranny and stopped because of 4chan?
>>6170944
No, i didn't have much success with women and went from respecting them to hating them to not caring about them.
I want an all male society free of femininity.
>>6169614
>I want you to get shit off your chest here and now.
My brother beat and bullied me relentlessly in our early childhood. He encouraged his friends to sexually assault me at the age of 6
I first had sex when I was somewhere in the range of 7-9, with a close friend. We maintained this relationship until we were 12
I had multiple sexual partners in this time period, all of whom were close friends. My last childhood sexual encounter was at approximately 13
My first sexual encounter with a female was at 18. My last sexual encounter was about 2 years ago with my pre-transition ftm SO of the pprevious three years and fiance. He left me soon afterwards because a female acquaintance of his poisoned the relationship
I am transgender myself and have been taking hormones for almost 10 months
I struggled with anorexia in elementary school and still have body image issues. I am currently overweight
My parents intentionally create a stressful environment at home because it's the only effective way to punish me. Most often I'm punished for variously defying their authoritarian system. I am frequently sick and have digestive problems because of the stress
This is considered "parenting"
I am cripplingly dependent on caffeine to the point where I was bedridden for a day when I tried to go without tea in the morning
I have no job and all of my professional experience is informal. I haven't graduated from university.
That's about it I think
>>6169614
>Heterosexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals
are only what's necessary
asexual is just a weakening of one of these types
pan is a meme way of saying bi
>Women, men, androdynous
same as above basically
>>6169614
>Alright, LGBT I want you to get shit off your chest here and now.
i do not disclose pain caused by blood trying to push thru constricted blood vessels to my doctor. in particular, the ones in my genital area and around my chest hoping it would be some kind of cancer. also waiting for DVT to happen and kill me every single time the pain comes up.
>>6171024
OP here. I prefer just this. However, when it's necessary to use the other terms, the rule of 5 is as far as I go.
>>6169614
I prefer he she and it.
>tfw legit pansexual cis man who's slept with every shade of gender (m, mtf, f, ftm and fluid) that identifies as bi, and doesn't "get" straight people, gay people, or trans people.
I-I'm an *actual* shitlord, aren't I? :3
>>6170916
>Have AGP
>Been AGP since I started puberty
>Experimented with cross dressing since I started puberty
>Had questions and even a couple of fantasies since before I started puberty
>Always got aroused by imagining being a woman but rarely ever look at porn of any kind
So what am I then?
>>6171317
asexual AGP
>>6171330
Except I'd consider myself more bisexual...
>>6169614
I don't think there's more than two genders. You are male or female. People who transition or want to are either crossdressers or in the cases of those who genuinely believe they were born in the wrong body, mentally ill. I don't mean they're insane, but I believe it's a mental illness like depression etc.
Likewise the whole whatever-sexual thing should be dropped completely. We don't need things like genderfluid queer panromantic asexuals. People are people and they're all different. The vast majority prefer the opposite sex, some prefer their own, others have a mix or like people but not sexually, whatever.
I also think that with things continuing to spiral ever further away from the norm, with ramming pride marches down people's throats and making everyone provide bathrooms for crossdressers and the like, that all this will do is encourage the rise of anti-LGBT. I just want a live and let live society, and people don't seem to understand that the more LGBT and feminism and SJW push and push and get all up in people's faces, the more children will grow up detesting the fact that they're not allowed to just live their own life.
I'm sorry. But I really think that a psychologist should be the first call before titty skittles.
>>6171574
>But I really think that a psychologist should be the first call before titty skittles.
I spent my life talking to psychologists and psychiatrists and "therapists"
Of all the crack and SSRIs they prescribed me, only the titty skittles have had any positive effect on my life with absolutely zero drawbacks
I think clearer
Movement feels natural instead of like piloting a crippled meat puppet
I can look at a mirror without wanting to cry and/or put my fist through it
Sure my life isn't perfect
People think I'm a degenerate, the government thinks I'm some kind of serial rapist pedophile who was only stopped from entering women's bathrooms by a plastic sign on the door
But my body fits
>>6171684
But you do also understand that being unhappy with the way you look and getting surgery to correct it is treating the symptoms rather than the cause right.
>>6171695
As far as I'm aware, most psychiatric medicine is concerned with treating symptoms
The whole concept of "pansexual" really pisses me off. You're just bi. Please stop coming up with stupid reasons for why bisexuality isn't the same thing because there aren't any. You're just making shit up.
>>6171702
Only when they can't find a way to treat the cause. Dishing out antidepressants is treating the symptoms, figuring out where the problems lie and improving them is treating the cause issues.
You understand what I mean right, I'm not attacking you, I just think giving up on finding why people want to pretend their girls or remake their life completely as if they've made themselves a new person and giving out mones is a lazy and irresponsible solution. And I use solution in the broadest sense considering how many trans people will continue to feel depressed and unhappy with their body, and a large number commit suicide.
>>6170995
Quality shit post right here. Saved.
>>6171684
>only the titty skittles
>the titty skittles
If you wanted people to take you seriously you should've worded it only the "titty skittles", any other way and it just looks humorous.
>only the titty skittles have had any positive effect on my life with absolutely zero drawbacks
>zero drawbacks from being a tranny
Lol are you even trans because that's a huge lie.
I'm 100% percent gay, but occasionally I see a female I don't think I'd mind fucking, then I think about the vagina and I nope out.
>>6171735
Sorry
Sometimes I forget that sarcasm tones have to be emphasized on the internet
Also, yes
I have had zero drawbacks as of right now due to being trans
I don't honestly see that being a continuing trend but I'll damn sure keep my dignity as long as possible
>>6171724
I understand that it would be better to understand the core causes of transsexuality but you have to account for human agency
A significant portion of transsexuals would rather transition than be "cured" of dysphoria, even in the face of staggering suicide rates even for those who do transition. It's too ingrained an attribute to simply erase, tantamount to as much a change of identity as transition
More even, since transition changes one's appearance to more closely resemble their self image and to "cure" dysphoria would be to change the self-image to match ones appearance
You understand my perspective, yes?
>>6171728
Why on earth would you save a list of things wrong with someone's life?
>>6171794
>my dignity
>trans
Oh hon it doesn't work like that.
>>6171738 I feel that.
I still find women hot sometimes, especially the butch ones, and I keep getting crushes on my female friends even though I know I'll never be interested in their vaginas. I wish I was just bisexual.
>>6171794
Actually most true trannsexual would rather be cured and be a normal person then be a tranny freak. Anyone that is really trans understands that gender dysphoria never goes away even with transition, it only lessens some what.
>>6169614
You set them straight anon, you sound like a nonsense free person who uses his good ol fashioned common sense!
I identify as straight and call transbians agp men, but I'm probably bi. I ate a girl out once and enjoyed it. I would have fucked her, but I couldn't get hard. Would do it again under the right circumstances.
>>6171840
Can't tell if sarcasm.
>>6169614
Oh shut up you tumblrina in delusion.
The only ones who deserve any kind of recognition are the following:
Hetero, homo, bi.
Male, female.
Freak of nature hermaphrodites are just that. Its a malfunction.
Asexuals are ok too, but it too can be related to variuos malfunctions.
Everything else is tumblr tier bullshit.
Ps. Trannies are mentally ill, and in proper society transitions and surgeries will be remembered to be as barbaric as lobotomies.
>>6171834
>Actually most true trannsexual
All those true Scotsmen though
Yes, ideally being transgender would not be a thing
Gender Dysphoria is a terrible thing that never goes away completely
I simply said -many- would not jeopardize their identity for a cure and you have to take them into account
>>6169614
I'd rather say 'little bit gay' than bi
>>6171828
Weird thing for me is that it's the more feminine ones. If they have tiny boobs and a nice ass, I might look.
I think it's because I'm attracted to fem guys as well. The thing is though, I'm attracted to very manly men as well. I guess the butch ones, butch as they are, aren't manly enough. And the cock has to be there, I can't even get off on bi porn because of the vagina.
>>6171738
Sounds like a closet straight guy to me.
>>6171812
Not me, Anon. You won't get me to believe this shit any time soon. Quality maymay, though.
There's someone I had a crush on, while I still browsed tumblr. First real lesbian crush, actually. I cut it off because I was aware I was becoming too creepy, and I have heard now that she identifies as one of those bullshit transgender snowflake identities.
As you can see, I still refer to her as "she" and consider her female. Now that I've separated my feelings from the crush, I realize that she wasn't even that great of a friend anyway...
>>6171984
>reaches around while topping
>bottoms
Yeah, I sure am a closet straight. All the cock up my ass is just a prank bro.
>>6169614
This is what literally every sane, relatively intelligent, older than 16, LGBT activist actually believes. They probably recognize genderfluid or whatever as like, an okay label for a "genderqueer" person to use, but that's about it.
Like, you phrase this as if it's some "i hate the leftist sjw scum" post but you're just about as radical as anyone in gender studies academia or even most of leftist gay tumblr.
But I still agree. There's no real need for crazy pronouns, they/them should work fine for anyone not okay with gendered ones, there's no need to catagorize every dating preference as its own sexuality. It's just that the only people who do think that are literally clueless teens who will grow out of it. And acting like they're some unified Social Justice Warrior Far Left group, who want to censor everything and will somehow gain enough power to oppress the Cis White Males is a joke. One that's used as an excuse to shit on normal gay and trans people who just want some basic rights.
>>6170727
i wouldn't say its 100% accurate, but it really does seem like there's more than a few guys here who are desperate to get out of a rut and start a new life, and feel like becoming a girl will somehow magically fix their problems. though most of them don't seem to be doing a whole lot worse, unless they have especially shit friends and family.
and a good chunk of them aren't even gay
>>6170995
wow anon, that's pretty fucked, im sorry you had to go through all that.
>>6169614
Male, female, bisexual. That's it, exclusive heterosexuality and homosexuality is a result of abrahamic religion.
>>6172252
sort of a gender variant of what happens in /fit/?
>>6172388
more or less, but this is a much bigger change and getting fit actually has some objective benefits, even if it's not the ones they hope for
I legit started hormones to get back at my old girlfriend knowing I'd look better than her post transition. I was salty and also a chaser. I only transitioned to date other trans girls without scrutiny. Can't be a chaser if you look like a pretty girl.
>>6172414
completely true
>>6171574
>But I really think that a psychologist should be the first call
i've seen many psychs, and essentially all of them read off the same script
>have you gone to a physician to get an exam?
>why don't you go to a support group?
>how about you talk to your family and friends about these things?
every single one
they're like fucking robots. i could see one being useful maybe, if they have a phd or a harvard degree or something, but that's not viable to get
>>6172974
Expensive therapists are just graduates from expensive schools and/or are friends with people who can pay that and invite their friends.
Most really dedicated therapists, interested in helping and what not, start pretty low until life breaks them and realize they can have lots of money if they get rich patientes without real problems.
>>6171738
How do you see ftms?
>>6173031
so what you're telling me is that it's an even more hopeless endeavor to find a non-useless therapist, because you believe people buy their way into good schools?
>>6173511
Some of the better passing ones are really hot, but the vagina kills it for me.
