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>go to a trans-friendly group to laugh at hons
>get my internal popcorn ready
>hons are masc as h*ck but nice
>hons are living fulltime while i wore girl clothes once or twice
>realize hons have the balls to live their lives exactly like they want while i am the same insecure hateful little twerp that will never socially transition
honslapped.exe
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>>6169303
t. Hon
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>>6169303
Don't worry you'll transition socially when your bell goes off at middle age.
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>>6169303
>realize hons have the balls
>hons have the balls

kek
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>>6169366
I know! I'm just happy that MY bell went off recently -- I'm 42 years YOUNG and have never felt better IN LIFE ;).

Picture: it's me after shaving my face. So good to finally see the real me!

xoxo,

Stephania
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>>6169580
WOW Stephania you look great babe much love and kisses MWAH!

But I totally agree hun us girls have to be stable with a wives and family before we make any rash decisions. When that bell goes you know you'll be ready!

Buh-bye ladies!
Rhona xoxoxox
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>>6169627
>>6169580
Maybe it's because I don't associate with white hons and all elderly black trans women I've known have been "In the Life" for decades (if only off and on) even if they look mannish as fuck but I cackled from this.

It's still weird though, even in the most dangerous ghettos of ATL/NYC/CHI/OAK/LA etc... The Girls are still around in broad daylight. Like how do White hons have no access to trans women in their comminities growing up? Why does it take then so long for the bell to ring?
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>>6169732
when you're already fucked you don't care too much about people saying things or looking you weridly.
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>>6169363
>t. butthurt hon nigger
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>>6169580
>>6169627

Stefan really does look like the sort of guy who would come out as trans when he's half-way done with his life. Also, I feel bad for laughing at your posts.
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>h*ck
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>>6169580
>>6169627
>Susans place simulator

Top kek
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this post brought to you buy hons.
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>>6169965
Ha ha, ikr. I find it oddly pleasing to post his pics and RP as a hon.
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>>6169303
this. I've never understood why ther's so much hon hate on here. Hons are happier than most people on this board. Everyone here values passing above anything else.
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>>6170301
I think that hate comes from how some hons had scared away some of the trans folks on here from transitioning sooner and just having weird awkward advice on places like susans

I'm coming from some experience because as a teen I just assumed all trans people ended up like hons so I repressed til I couldn't anymore at 20 which kinda fucked me over a little bit.
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>>6169415
Yep. a friend bought me two antique 8 lbs cannon balls for a present once. At the same time she gave me a signed copy of "Are You Man Enough to be a Woman?".

this >>6170301
Happiness means a whole hell of a lot.
>tfw Happy!!!!
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>>6170317
Yep I had no idea you could transition and not look like a disgusting freak until relatively recently.
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Holy shit, I had a similar experience and it marked and changed me forever.

I was a pretty stupid 14 (15?) year old when I started transitioning and I snuck out to take this train to a festival in another province in full boymode. Behind me were two effeminate guys wearing bracelets and necklaces and androgynous clothing, not old but both black and sassy and sounding faggoty as fuck.

They started referring to other faggots they knew by female pronouns, and apparently used them themselves. I was kind of outraged before I realized that they were literally more self-accepting than me.

I thought just taking hormones and having a cute voice and being cute was progress, but I had literally made no psychological advancement since I started off and the whole thing had been really streamlined in the first place.

When the bus stopped I got out and asked them something random like directions or whatever, and we started chatting. They eventually took me to have ice cream (kinda creepy desu looking back, but we were still in the train station) and said I was adorable (also creepy) and they eventually were the first non-family people I came out to as trans to. Never talked to them again because I was scared by the end of it and just left saying I had to hurry, but wew, the experience helped immensely. If they could accept themselves, so could I.
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>>6171028
Same. When I was started to come to terms with my attraction to guys, it felt like I was maturing psychologically. But if that was the case, why was I so cold and standoffish when I spoke to anyone who was even moderately flamboyant? I could punch myself for being such an asshole.
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>>6171028
Most transwomen irl will be very accepting of other girls in the same position. It sucks for everyone and it helps to stay together, even if they don't pass. 4chan in general has the emotional maturity of a teenager and most people can't understand how to feel empathy and how others feel it too.
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>>6173064
It is easier to feel empathy for people you meet in person.
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>>6173071
I don't know. I'm in my mid twenties and teens seem like huge assholes in general to me, I can't be on 4chan without imagining classmates from HS on the other side of the screen.
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>>6173083
Most mtfs here are in their 20s. They should have outgrown this shit by now. Then again I remember regressing when I first got on hrt. Took a few years to even out.
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>>6169303
nice try hon
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>>6173093
25 here.

I don't get why some of you insist on being assholes. I find it hard to not be nice these days. It's weird how it all played out. I can remember a couple years ago telling a co-worker it was nonsensical to smile at people you don't know.

And now I fucking do it, no idea why. Maybe I'm just happier now.
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>>6173279
>some of you
You might not be as nice as you think you are, friend.
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>>6169303
Autism keeps the socially aloof happy. They get laughed at all the time but they are blissfully unaware. Nobody should envy people who don't need normal human interaction.
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>>6169303
also OP is full blown hon
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>>6173348
I heard an interview with this aspergers guy who participated in an experiment to stimulate parts of his brain. He said he began to understand how people were expressing emotions, and that when he thought back on his memories of his friends, he realized that they had been laughing at him the entire time. Kinda sad desu
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>>6169932
Wrong. I'm repressed. I win

Stealth cis
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>>6173279
People who feel bad about themselves want other to also feel bad.
Also, you sound quite mean.
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>>6169303
Didn't go in expecting to laugh at people, but yeah, that was my first experience at a support group- it's hard to make an excuse to put your shit off any longer when you see so many people making it work for themselves in situations way worse than you'll ever have.

I got my shit in order pretty fucking fast after my first go.
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>>6173352
>don't wear girl clothes
>he calls me a hon
Sorry but I am a proud man. :^)
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>>6169303

>20
>two years HRT
>people tell me I pass but insecurities and lack of social support keep me in permanent boy-mode
>never dressed in girl clothes outside of house, or even in front of anyone

H...how do the hons do it? Teach me your ways hons.
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>>6173279
I don't even smile at people I know and change side of the road if I see them approaching from a distance because I don't want to talk to them\greet them
Team autistic assholes is on the rise
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>>6173348
I like how you assume that no one could be constantly insulted, take it and try to find happyness. Why would you come to 4chan?
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If you never muster the courage to socially transition then in the eyes of the world you are really just a man who secretly cross dresses.

All of what I am about to post I have said here many times before.

With the advent of online pharmacies a new generation of trannies has emerged. You all sit at your computers all day playing video games and posting MySpace angled photos in pass threads. You all think that simply popping titty skittles will one day magically make you pass. You all fail to understand the trial by fire that occurs by presenting in public and eventually living a life full time.

Transitioning is scary and it takes A LOT of hard work. Something you autists fail to understand. Your failures at passing will teach you so much more than any online hug box opinions based off of distorted photos (camera distortion, lighting, angles, etc.).

It's about how society reads you in all varieties of life. How does your hair fall in a grocery store when you reach for item? How does your reflection look when outside and walking past a mirrored window? How does your voice sound when you need to speak up in a crowded place? How feminine are your mannerisms when when you cross the street? How does your makeup and style of fashion compare to your peers? Etc.

You will learn little to nothing by hiding in your home.

Transitioning was the hardest thing I've ever done. When I started I didn't pass. But I learned so fucking much in that first year of living full time. Now my cis friends look up to me for advice on fashion and makeup. I get modeling gigs for fashion and for hair. And yes, I fucking pass with flying colors now. It didn't come quick and it didn't come easy, but I know I am so much stronger of a person for having done it.

Obligatory weeaboo picture.

Cont.
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>>6175539
>inb4 ur just in some liberal oasis! it's dangerous for me!

It was dangerous for me too. I transitioned in Colorado and Texas. I got made fun of in public by strangers. People would point and laugh at me, and be disrespectful. Hell, I even got beaten up once. I had no family support, I started with no friends, and finding employment was scary and difficult, but I did it. Along my journey I developed new friendships with people on my level, people who respected me, people who assisted me in my transition, be it through fashion and makeup advice, or simply respecting my name and pronouns and including me in their social circles.

Despite all the hardships I faced, I regret nothing. I pity this new generation. You live in a lonely online fantasy where one day you will magically "start failing boy mode." As if failing to be a man is the same as passing for a woman. Even once you "fail boy mode" you have a mountain of experience and socialization ahead of you. You think cis girls become women without a good decade or two of socialization? There is more to passing than appearance (albeit appearance is HUGE).

Some would pull the "trutrans" card and say that if you can live as a man then you aren't trans. I won't do that, but I will say that I could not live as a man. It felt so wrong for me that I would have killed myself. Expressing my femininity was critical to by being. At 21 I gave up everything and started from scratch.

I'm not going to tell you that there is a right way and wrong way to transition. Ultimately you need to choose the path that is best for you. But if you are on OP's path, then I think you deserve to hear there are other options. Good luck.

Obligatory weeaboo picture.
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>>6175539
>Transitioning is scary and it takes A LOT of hard work.
It doesn't if you start young enough. you can go outside with jeans and a hoodie and pass just fine with no make up or anything.

You are trying to over-dramatize transition.

>>6175545
I've been in many states all over the country including some in the south and I've been fine in all of them regardless of my frumpy fashion sense, and lack of make-up knowledge. I don't even do anything with my voice or mannerisms.
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>>6175545
interesting story pham. I'm thinking about going full time, and changing my name. I work full time at this place and...

everyone knows me by boy name, I don't pass, what do? will it be okay?
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>>6175539
>>6175545
I liked your points and agree, but I wanted to comment something shitty and idiotic:
What if Haibane Renmei is about transgirls who killed themselves?
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>>6175539
>>6175545

Nice so-you-wanna-be-a-t-girl tier rant, hon.
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>>6175570
>what do?
You could talk to your boss/HR and let them know and try to transition at work, or you could switch jobs and start your new job as a tranny who doesn't pass (yet). I'd recommend talking with your current job first.

>will it be okay?
I can't say, but if you want this badly enough then you owe it to yourself to at least try. Give it 110%.

>>6175577
What if Haibane Renmei takes place in the same world and that's why they live in a walled city? We will never know since it was never finished properly.
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>>6175688
Correction, same world as Attack on Titan.
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>>6175696
it would either be the most pointless crossover or the greatest gorefest.
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>>6175570
It depends who your co-workers are. Some may disagree but in my experience work environments trend to be accepting. Be ready for accidental misgendering though
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>>6175688
>>6175707
ahaha sounds scary

oh well time to go full time hon mode...
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>>6175736
Honestly if your boss is behind you, it's one of the safest places to start socially transitioning. You're safe to fail at first because they know already and can't really do anything about it.

Worst case if it ends up being a really toxic environment you can find a new place to work, but you might as well take it as an opportunity
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>>6175804
this, also if people actively harass you then you can get a severance while you search for a new job.
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>>6175545
you sound like a major hon
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>>6175539
>>6175545
t. hon
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>>6170301
I value spreading knowledge about secret women's mysteries, like how hops makes boobs happen with regular use. (not even beer, but beer works if you work for a living.-.
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>>6170317
>>6170844

Maybe that is why they waited until they couldn't repress it anymore?

>>6174471
I do it because I have to. I simply have no other choice. Well I could kill myself. I will wait a bit longer for that though.
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>>6175202
my post flew over your head and that's okay
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>>6173368
neat, I need to find this
thx anon!
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>>6175539

>mfw 3 years HRT and none of my friends even know I'm trans (broke contact with all of them)
>not going to present until I can afford FFS/BA/VFS
>should be in a few years when I'm ~25
>going to have surgeries then live in a cave until I'm healed
>reemerge somewhere on the other side of the globe where nobody knows me
>meditate/hypnotize myself to forget past life
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>>6178530
guy's name is John Elder Robison fyi
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>>6175539

Every time I hear the "I just couldn't keep suppressing my femininity so I went full time immediately" it's 9/10 some hon lord sperg-autist who just wants to wear thigh highs and 8" size 13 heels in public (that they had to buy from the cross dressing section of their local sex shop).
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>>6178572
it's totally masochistic how people on this board refuse to start living full-time/ at least making attempts towards socially transitioning until they can pass.
do you think that >>6178548 is more reasonable??
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>>6178548
>never train voice
>never learn manerisms from other people
>never learn to dress properly
you're gonna stun them, hon
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>>6178572
everytime I hear someone waiting until she turns 23-25 to start living I can't imagine a human being on the other side of the screen. at least some live in boymode, that's better, but the whole idea of being a NEET, getting FFS and then starting to think about what you're gonna do the rest of your life is weird as fuck.

I'd rather deal with a violently manly hon working in a lab to the best of her abilities than some kid that looks exactly like a woman and is a piece of shit.
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>>6178790
Not all hons are violent and many. I am quite a pretty and fem hon.
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>>6178781

I am that poster.

>>6178790

>I can't imagine a human being on the other side of the screen

Anon you're hurting me.

>but the whole idea of being a NEET, getting FFS and then starting to think about what you're gonna do the rest of your life is weird as fuck.

I was raised by personality disordered sociopaths.

>>6178781

>having to *learn* mannerisms

hon...
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I don't know, I almost feel like I've given up. Why would I expose myself to people when I know I won't pass? I've fallen for the wait for surgery meme. I just wish people would treat me like a woman. Even if doctor l someone did I know they would just be humoring me

Also, the ingrained homophobia despite wanting to be a woman, what the fuck?
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>>6178877
>>having to *learn* mannerisms
>hon...
yeah, I'm sure you there are no people in any gender with issues acting like a normal person.

I didn't mean to directly insult you, the thing with generalizations is that they are usually not true for each case. I still believe the things I said, but everything can be fixed. Except the senate, the senate can't be fixed.
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i don't get why you wouldn't wait to be fully passing before socially transitioning
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>>6169303
This is what happens when you spend too much time on /mtfg/ and breathing in their toxicity every day. It's retarded they are a parody of themselves and everything they hated now. You should live your life and never let 4chan convince you that you shouldn't take risks or be confident. Most of the people here will never move out of the basement. The only real question is do you want to like like subterranean troglodyte too or live like a real person?
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>>6179484
Kayla is going on 2 years of hrt soon and doesn't have a girlmode. Pick your fate.
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>>6178877

yes, some people have to learn their mannerisms

saw two people at a trans support group with their legs spread wide open. no matter how well you pass there are masculine habits that will cause people to clock you
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>>6179534
kayla always posts grainy, poor resolution pictures so maybe she doesn't pass
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>>6178790
>I'd rather deal with a violently manly hon working in a lab to the best of her abilities than some kid that looks exactly like a woman and is a piece of shit.
Usually they don't look like women. There are countless examples of these hons you all hate that transitioned in their thirties, passing, and being successful, nobody questioning their gender integrity. There are also countless examples of the bright young trans kids in their late teens that don't pass and spend their entire tweens addicted to steam sales and porn.

I open another thread and I see femboys talking about hormones like the anti aging miracle drug. They have a severe peter pan syndrome and you can't deny that this permeates all of the trans community on 4chan. Age is used as the measuring stick of success and youth is the holy grail. All of that wacky shit like being female, socially transitioning, having a life, it all takes a back seat. It's just the younger version of the guys that transition in their fifties so they can wear pantyhose and pvc slut wear.
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>>6179570
A dinner doesn't cook itself anon. Kayla is still waiting and might be waiting or the next 10 years for all we know.
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>>6179594
if you have to put effort into it then you're already fucked
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>>6179589

Thank you for this. Reading this board, it feels like most people here are 17 year olds who dream of becoming anime girls, and anything falling short of that is automatically

>hon
>repress
>you are autist if you waited this long
>muh agn

Also shit like picture of a girl passing totally fine and people ganging up on her because there's a visible vein on one of her hands.
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>>6179523
This times 1,000. I thank god that this board didn't exist when I first transitioned. I know for a fact it would have set me back both physically and psychologically.

Transitioning in many ways is the antithesis of 4chan. It requires courage, resilience, hard work, fortitude, social skills, tactfulness, strong character and conviction, etc. None of these are the values or norms of this board. The more you subscribe to this board's culture, the harder it will be to transition.

>>6179699
Yes. This board is toxic. If I were just starting to transition, I couldn't think of a worse place to be than here. The predominate messages here are completely derogatory, deluded, and counter productive, as you have pointed out.

Any time I speak of my personal experiences, the vast majority of anons just can't fathom that someone could have actually successfully done the thing that they so idolize. So they throw out their favorite slurs like hon and AGP. Ironic how they try so hard to become the thing they hate so much.

They have put successfully transitioning on this unattainable pedestal to where the thought of anyone having the courage, work ethic, and the luck to accomplish it is just completely unbelievable to them, and those who do become their enemy.

Even having fully socially transitioned for years, I still get so fed up with the negatively and niaveity here that I take breaks from this place. Honestly I'd probably be better off never coming to any board on 4chan ever again.

But I still come here, in part out of 4chan being a habit, in part because it can have a certain sick breed a of humor I can find elsewhere (albeit increasingly rarer each year), in part because anonymity is a nice break from reality, and lastly, in part because I know that even if just one or two people benefit from my posts (when I talk about personal things) then that could make a difference in a person's life.

Transition is a process. It doesn't happen overnight.
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>>6179699
>>6180540
very well said, anons. I'm fully transitioned as well and sometimes it gets to me too. this place would've made transitioning impossible for me. it's hard not to worry about young trans people who come on here.
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>>6180577
Glad to know I'm not alone on here anon.
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>>6179589
>>6179699
>>6180540
>>6180577
I agree. On the flip side /mtfg/ is just as much of a hug box as it is toxic. There's a new trip now called Grace, nothing personal but Grace just looks like a man in his twenties or early thirties, not even an attractive man, with terrible acne. For some unknown reason lots of people keep filling Grace with delusions of grandeur and say she looks stunning. If I was starting out and I was exposed to such a disconnect with reality I would probably question if we were all just insane. If I was more unstable I might go as far as to repress just so that I wouldn't have to associate with that culture.
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>>6175539
>>6175545
Ok fuck off.

I get the picture. Back to repression
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>>6180760
Fuck off bully anon
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>>6181029
Except anon is totally right. There's absolutely nothing special about Grace. He looks like an ugly man. Nothing wrong with being ugly, but stop deluding yourselves, god damn.
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>>6181042
Fuck off bully anon
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>>6180760
>early 30s
are you blind, she's 20
sure a bit unhealthy looking but early 30s? come on
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>>6181019
Should have waited for your bell to go off anyways
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>>6181056
kill your self hon
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>>6181071
>salty because his bell didn't go off
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>>6175539
>>6175545
Real talk detected.

It drives me insane how all these kids are transisitoning, but it's"too scary" to get a job. No motherfuckers, you're just scared of actually having to put some work in. Of actually knowing whether you're trans or not. Playing overwatch and taking pills isn't a transisiton.

Get a job, transtrenders
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>>6181101
You cerebellum is about to go off
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>>6181122
Nah u would rather commit suicide
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>>6181122
I honestly just want to transition to a gothy geek girl/woman. I have zero interest in becoming a model or giving anyone make up and fashion tips. I find fashion redundant because I have my own taste.

Still, it's definitely true that just popping pills won't turn you into a woman. Working on your voice and mannerisms is very real, but I just want to point out there's nothing wrong with transitioning into a more tomboy-ish kind of girl. Or any kind of girl you're comfortable with.
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>>6181042
we hon thread now
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>>6180540
Honestly this is why I as a cis bi guy would prefer to see trans split off into a separate board. It's not that I don't support people transitioning. It's that the posters on trans topics here are so absurdly toxic and cruel to each other, it brings the tone of the whole place down. It's as if someone said "what we really need is a trans version of /r9k/" and then forced all the non-porn LGB and A to also be posted on that board.
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what does this bell going off shit mean
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>>6184637
All TS’s will hear that bell go off sooner or later, or they are not a TS. And when that bell goes off, they run... they have no choice in the matter... it is what they were born to do. As you approach 40 and all the things combine... the lack of testosterone, your age and mortality, your biological duties fulfilled, your feminine side screaming at you to explore and live the way you were meant to... your bell goes off... you have to live as a woman or put a bullet in your head.
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>>6184637
latest forced meme
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>>6184647
hi
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>>6184600
>A
Tumblr no
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>>6184637

>his bell never went off
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>>6169627

Rhona hun ur back!!! Xxxxxxx

Paula xox
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>>6186059

Hi hon!!!!! What do u think of my new dress??

April xoxo
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>>6186070
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>>6186070
>>6186078
fucking top
10/10
yes
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>>6169303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShqkBC9zmWM
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>>6186070

ur beauts susan hun!!! april u luk totes fab in that dress n i think u shud deffo wear it more often!!!! x

tina here!!! x
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>>6186104

Thnx! Just got back from the club with the girls ;).

Here's a vid of me dancing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1o59Z8DRtA&feature=youtu.be

April xoxo
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>>6186145
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>>6186145

APRIL HUN!!! Ur def gunna have 2 show me ur moves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! theyre so gud!! i cnt dance 2 save my own lief hun but ur so gud its unreal!! xxxxxxxxxxx

tina hun x
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I wish I could accept being a tranny

;_;
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>>6186220
dnt b sad susan, u got this!! x
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>>6186231
>>6186059
hey girls! kayla here, do you like my coat?? had to borrow it off my mommy but she let me have it for the night in my room lol :P

i just ate pizza lol i'm soooo girly haha pizza lmao
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>>6186220
i wish

i would just overdose

BUT I CANT DIE
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>>6186240
lmfao kayla! i just had sum pizza myself xx heres a pic i just took with my hon friends eating pizza together :D it was so gud, am definitly comin back here agen x lol
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>>6184600
That is completely understandable anon. Have something like a board for sexuality and board for gender? I doubt this will ever happen though for two reasons. One, I was shocked when 4chan even made an /lgbt/ board, and two, gender is still a facet of sexuality so trannies would still flood the sexuailty board with their shit flingging.

The trannies here are predominantly a mixture of /r9k/ and /pol/ and it's really completely awful in so many aspects. Just look at how this thread devolved into "hon posting" and personal attacks.

>>6186220
As I said earlier in this thread, this board's culture is the antithesis of what is needed for self-acceptance and transitioning. I would have never accepted myself as trans if I was hanging out in a places as toxic as this. If I were you I would avoid internet LGBT communities completely and focus on your real life. I would also find a good therapist, as this can be crucial. Finding a good therapist is pretty tough though, but if you want it badly enough you will do it. Good luck.
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>>6169303
>be me
>prepared to laugh at Hons
>cigarette break for group..
>shit I don't have any I forgot them
>nice hon sees me checking my pockets
>"I got loads of smokes... Want a few?"
>"I haven't seen you around, are you new here? I can introduce you to everyone if you're shy"
>"we're going to smoke some weed after if you want to come hang out for a couple hours"
>tfw Hons are actually chill as fuck
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>>6175539
>>6175545
>grew up in extreme Christian community with republicans
>never called a faggot
>always a sports star
>mamed by strangers even pre hrt
>disrespected in kindergarten once and 8th grade
>beat the fuck out of them both times cause not going to label me a little bitch like you
>literally just turn off my masculine filter and just be myself
>feminine body posture etc
>shaved a little orange concealer girl
>lazy dont give a shit 5 o clock shadow people think I'm an emo femboy

Have fun being some weird degenerate that has to make up excuses and muh struggle or some shit because you're not actually transsexual and you ha e to learn how to be a girl like some sociopath
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>>6186934
Make sure you smoke as much as possible hun :^)
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>>6187053
You must be shit at femulating if you don't study proper mannerisms.

I bet you don't even pass.
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>>6187140
>femulating

i adore seeing a hon in action thinking everyone had it as hard as her

I've had female mannerisms since I learned to walk since my mom raised me single and most of my family was female anyway. 2 months into HRT and I get she'd unanimously and without eye blinking, which gets pretty easy when you're 5'3 and 92 lbs.

Some people don't need to 'femulate'. Some people weren't ruined by T and male influences until 20 or 40.
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>>6184637

I think it is simply a way to describe what it feels like when the methods one used to deal with dysphoria finally completely fail, and no new coping mechanism can be found.

Whether that method was repression and over emphasis on being masculine, or drugs, or sex, or church, or work. Whatever.

I didn't simply discover I was trans. I simply couldn't not act on it anymore. My ability to repress was unhinged. I had no more emotional room to stuff in any more pain. I attempted suicide and failed. So I was left with a clear choice. Try again, or transition. Trying again would mean convincing my doctors, and true friends I was sane enough to not do it.

However, as people showed they really loved me I decided well if I will just kill myself anyway if it doesn't work maybe just try to see if I can transition. So that is where I am now. One year in and started at 39. It fucking sucks but I am surviving and sometimes feel happy even.
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>>6187140
Staying stealth and avoiding any fem behaviors or social cues should be your entire existence if youre "repressed". I know exactly how women are because I lived vicariously through them dating them and surrounded myself with them. Im really comfy around girls and I've been besties with many for a decade or more. Its guys im uncomfortable around but I usually just assume the calm aloof alpha role and nobody gives me shit. But honestly don't really do that anymore since everyone but my parents knows im trans or a girl so its not really a thing.
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>>6186921
>if you want it badly enough you will do it
That's the thing. I don't think I'll ever want it badly enough because it's just easier to ignore it until I kill myself.

I'm not super crazy suicidal but I just have episodes where for a few hours to a day I just lay in bed and cry and legitimately want to kill myself. It started in my mid teens and it's happening more frequently.
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>>6187169
>until 20

get real. You didn't transition early. You are just lucky you had fail genetics. Your life would have been pathetic as a 5'3" guy
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>>6187220
That only gets worse as you get older.
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>>6187214
>im comfy with girls
>I know girls so well
>because I fucked them a lot and was their boyfriends

I don't think you understand female behavior. Also females are not uncomfortable around guys they like guys
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>>6187236
I've experienced that and it makes me scared, but I'm less or equally as scared of killing myself as I would be of trying to transition.
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>>6187225
>get real. You didn't transition early.

I said "until 20" not referring to myself, but the minimum time the hon probably transitioned.

I did my own at 15, with a short interruption until I changed to a school where I could stealth. (I'm >>6171028 by the way)

>Your life would have been pathetic as a 5'3" guy

Not really, lol. I'm in midget country so height doesn't really matter. I'm more pathetic as a girl because I'm sustained by someone else.

Things were working out pretty well as a guy, with a stable gf (as stable a teenager can get), close group of normie friends, virginity lost at 14 and a bright future in medicine ahead.

As a girl I (technically) only lost my 'virginity' (being a girl, only butt virginity counts. Why the fuck would I care about my dick?) at 19 which is embarassingly late, am permanently houseNEETing on bf's back, and have almost no social life aside from raveing and festival attending since I don't want to trust people enough to befriend them.

I guess I just wanted to stay cute forever and it outweighed the whole bad side of transitioning.
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>>6187264
I figured what the hell. If I am going to go out anyway might as well try. Transitioning is hard when you are old, but I am starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel. It isn't so horrible. I have even had real moments of contentment and happiness. I am truly glad that I let myself experience this. Even if I eventually fail and kill myself.
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>>6187276
Stay strong. You can pull it off.
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>>6187239
I think you're just desperate to legitimize your autism. I just specced charisma and speech. Maybe you shouldn't have put so many points in bitch nigga. You could always reroll.
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>>6187281
I have found a great deal of support, and some amazing close friends. I got to find out who truly cares about me. It was both very hurtful and joyous.

I am trying, and I think I will actually make it, but it is still a day by day thing. I still have vivid visualizations of me killing myself every single day almost. Mostly do to the bigoted atmosphere. Trans being so in your face 24/7 since Cait. Sometimes it is just almost too much.
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>>6187310
Honest advice? 4chan might be making it worse. Trans culture here is not 'honest', it's not 'straightforward', it's mean, abusive, and self-appraising.

It's basically a bunch of grown women who never got to experience being a high school girl and throw sass at each other because they want to live the drama out someway.
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>>6186280
Hey sister!
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>>6186240
fuck dude not cool, that pic is only when I was a few months on hormones anyway
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>>6187342
Kayla, refer to >>6187317, for the love of everything.
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>>6187317
No trans space is with out crazy. None. Transition is traumatic for most people, but then so is not. To benefit from 4chan one must simply be aware. Take the good for what it is and acknowledge the bad.

I find this to be one of the best trans site out there. It can be cruel, but it isn't always, not do I think cruelty and drama are this sites true heart.

This site reflects the drama of sad traumatized people trying to find themselves. Whether that is venting self hate onto others or absorbing that hate because you understand and love that anonymous thing in the ether.

I check this site like once a week or so. it is kooky fun with funny, and often sweet pics and people.

I really love you children.
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>>6187342
You looked great then, and I am sure you look better now. However that isn't why you are awesome. Fuck the haters.
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>>6187369
I would rather bathe in self hate then self love, I look like shit but it pushes me harder. Also I don't wear girl clothes anymore, not until I consistently fail boy mode, which I am at about 50/50 right now
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>>6187378
Oh Kayla. I love you even if you don't love yourself. I understand though. I hate myself. You remind me of me and it is so weird. It is ok to not be perfect.
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>>6187365
/lgbt/ has officially become /susans/
I remember it was becoming cancer about a year ago but it is now stage 4.
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>>6187406
pfft. You poor self hating dummy. As if someone being nice to you is bad. See I insulted you. Does that make you feel better? You stupid twit I love you.
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>>6187342
You deserve it for posting your pics here just like when people mock you for posting your dick on /b/, Eliot.
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>>6187328
see?? see? even arnie can pass with a good haircut and a cute smile on her face

Hugz & kisses, Valerie :)
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>>6187317
>grown women

We will never be real women, anon. Why haven't you learned that yet?
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>>6187731
Woman is simply a title. Its meaning is as varied as the people who use it.
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>>6187756
On tumblr, maybe. We're male, plain and simple.
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>>6187767
Perhaps, but male is a physical definition. Being male doesn't automatically make one a man. Just as giving birth doesn't necessarily make one truly a mother. Those are honorific titles, and often have to do with cultural ritual. It is bestowed. I contend even the confines of your strict version of reality that a male can be a woman.
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>>6187767
nope lol

why should I care about your definition when the rest of society validates me?

t. passing tranny
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>>6186921
I come here not because I want to but because I really have no place to go, I'm a neet and have no real friends. My attempts to escape into the real world have always been met with failure and I'm simply not strong enough to go full time alone.

I'm really not sure there is anyway out at this point, my behavior is so deeply engrained, the only way out is suicide
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>>6187951
You will be ok. Never give up hope. People do care and love you.
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>>6187951
You need therapy not 4chan. Stop making excuses and get the help you need.
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>>6188026
I went to therapy for several months and it didn't help at all, if anything it made me worse
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>>6180595
>>6180577
>>6180540


You're right. this board's too toxic.
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>>6189320
>le toxic maymay
>>>/susans/
>>>/lauras/
>>>/r/transpassing
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/iamcaitforums/
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>>6185304
>>6186070
>>6186240
Omg Rhonda, Paula, April, Kayla
Pizza party? Count me in, gurls!! Mayb we could do some gurly lesbian fun afterwards, tee heee xxx

Here I brought my pizza costume with me, you like it???

- Laura xoxox
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Here let me show you myself, gurls
BTW Boys back off!! You can't have me anyway, tee hee. I like girls only xx

Hugs and kisses,
- Laura
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>>6187342
are you runlvl -- if it's you you'll know the rest of the name -- on a different community just curious
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>>6189809
>>6189832
You know, I think the people who seek out these images, save them, rename them, read their posts, and then repost these photos on other sites, adding you own pseudo posts to go along with them (what you are doing here) are even creepier than the sources.

Seriously, you people have an unhealthy obsession with these weird old fetishists. Of all the things you could be doing with yourself and your time, you choose this.

I hypothesize that you are just a sad, repressed homophobe who wants to transition and be happy, but you're too much of a coward to do it. So instead you search the internet, looking for the bottom of the barrel, and then you rub it in everyone else's face, in a pathetic attempt to make others, who actually have the guts to transition, feel as bad as you do about yourself.

>tl;dr you're less socially adjusted than the people in the photos you're posting
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>>6190212
>le projection
oh hunn don't be liek that!! that's not very ladylike behavior
- Lucy, xoxo
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>>6190212
LOL don't be salty because one of your pics got posted and roleplayed with in this thread, hon. kill yourself, we need less people like you in this world
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>>6169366
>bell goes off
What this mean?
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>>6188026
>>6188036
therapy is useless except to people who have literally never introspected
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>>6190298
Therapy can still be pretty nice it's comforting to have someone to talk to about your problems even if they don't really care. Plus sometimes things become more apparent to people when they vocalize something rather than just think about it.
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>>6190459
then why blow the money when you can just talk to people on 4chan? i've even had far more insightful comments from anons than from a number of therapists
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>>6190477
Some people are scared of 4chan, plus some insurance require therapy in order to start hrt or get surgery, or get whatever other meds they need.
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>>6169303
I think most of the people that judge hons have never actually met any. Out of the dozen or so I've had the pleasure of hanging out with at meetings were all extremely nice, genuine people. They're not just just nasty fetishist cross dressers. I was going to this one months meeting for a while where the group was like 4-6 old ladies and me (22) and my gf (19) and they were always fun to chat with. They were more fem and confidant than both us who transitioned in our teens. They're just too old to give a fuck, super sage.
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I think therapy groups can be a good thing since you can meet hot trans dudes there. :^)

Why would I pay attention to mtfs at all? What am I, a gay retard?
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>>6190493
so then it isn't actually useful as i said...
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>>6175545
>I passed so bad I got laughed at in public
>now I'm a beautiful model

If you want people to take you more seriously try not being so retarded and delusional
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>>6178660
Well it's more reasonable to me. I want to be a dentist and have a good career. I sacrifced socially transitioning for a couple years for that. I was on hormones but I actually cut my hair to go through interviews. So I set myself back a lot. Now I am in dental school and I'm getting ffs this christmas and I am 23. Am I sad that I'm a bit older and lack some girl socialization that some other girls who went full-time at 19-20-21 , yes. But I don't think I did things wrong. And desu I feel ahead in important ways than most ts. Sure my life starts a bit later but it's going to be a good life. Looking forward to when I am 26, passing well and fairly pretty and making plenty of money. I'm excited. But hopefully my surgery doesn't get botched ! That scares me.

I am lucky though my dad is paying for my surgery even though he doesn't really see me as a girl. Weird world !
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>>6180540
It's a process that goes no where if your face isn't within female averages enough
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>>6181122
For me Its actually that it's too scary transitioning in front of professionals who I desire respect from. If I had a shity min wage job or was a neet it would be much easier for me to transition. Instead I decided I wanted to have a good career that requires face to face interaction and this is why I need to be more careful with my transition and my face needs to be perfect before I can easily transition other social aspects into my life.


Its also harder for me because I have a successful boyfriend who doesn't care how I act or look like and spoils me like a princess desu and all this is inertia that makes it difficult to socially transition when I already have happy things in my life. Like going to Disney world with my boyfriend :D who is paying for it. Yes I am bragging a bit I love him
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>>6193248
>Well it's more reasonable to me. I want to be a dentist and have a good career

I think that's a really smart plan too, i was doing the same until family forced me to move out & live on my own, and I couldn't afford college at the same time.. it set back my career options quite a bit but i made enough progress and its too bad

i've met many trans girls who focused on transitioning early but then have no careers or options and still live at home or whatnot
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>>6180540
I rarely visit the boards nowadays but nice to see there's still some voice of reason

its sad to see other trans girls fall for that culture when starting to transition..
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>>6193307
I'm in a place now where I don't know how to advance, every decision I made prior to transition was a bad one, now I'm trapped with no real education and unable to get a job. I desperately want to change but I can't
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>>6193270

If one is too masculine, but enjoys HRT and femininity, it may be better to tell the bigots to suck your gt, move to a transfriendly region and be visibly trans.
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>>6169303
I used to scoff at "hons" but honestly they're a hell of a lot braver than I am. I transitioned passably. I fit neatly into society without rocking the boat with loud activism or catty LGBT-centric witticisms all the time, and even then I have a mini-breakdown whenever I don't think I pass perfectly. They can go outside in a tutu and drag makeup like fucking Divine and not give any fucks at all.

That's downright impressive.
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>>6193410
i like the way you think

in a way hons really are "stunning" and "brave" for going outside despite looking like that, i genuinely unironically applaud them
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>>6190477
Talking to 4chan about your problems is universally a bad idea even if you were paid to do it.
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>>6187342
It's pretty recent stop lying. You're going on 3 years mones now, where is the great change you were talking about? By this point nothing else changes much at all.
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>>6193817
>trust me, I'm a 4chan endo
hrt takes 6 years for some stuff, 3 years is half of it and two months is literally nothing. it's almost a pretransition pic.
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>>6180760
Grace is just a man at this point. Even people like Bexe look better but standards have made such a downward swing for hon territory. Anyone that used to get mocked would be a homecoming queen of /mtfg/ today.
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When I fist came out I went to a local support group. There was a much older person transitioning. Much older. In her 60's. When I fist saw her I was put off. I judged her harshly. I was embarrassed by how I thought people viewed me.

Over time as we both progressed she really started to look good, but that isn't why I love her. She was endlessly kind, and patient, and sweet.

She was so encouraging and helped people who needed support as she had some means.

She recently had grs, and just looked so happy. She helped others get it too and paid for flights and gifts.

She died this morning from cancer she didn't even know she had. She got three months of her whole life as herself. Just three months, but that is so much more than any of us will ever get if we are selfish and vain and cowardly.

You don't know how much time you get to live. There is so much more to care about than stupid stereotypes that play into transphobia.

I will miss you and always love you Joi
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>>6187365
<3
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this place is crazy but I like it majority of the time
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>>6193850
I assume she's in hon heaven by now
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>>6190260
oh dont worry hun
im sure your bell will go off too once you have 7 children to abandon in your late 50s.
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>>6193942
oh Joi
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>>6193942

>tfw qt transgirl hell is hon heaven
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>>6193850
cancer? was it related to HRT in any way? .^)
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>>6193307
Sometimes I feel like I should have put things off and socially transitioned after college between trying then tried to get into dental school. But I can't take things back. And I was worried my parents wouldn't put up with my bullshit if they felt I was a lazy neet
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>>6180540

I agree with this poster. A lot of damaged people congregate on 4chan, and it's a shame that the trans community here hasn't developed into something more of a life line for people who just aren't sure about where else they can turn for information and some real talk without the bile. And that's not to say that there aren't some cool people here - there's one poster in particular, Akala i think her name is, whose posts are consistently helpful and grounded. The cynicism circulating re trans issues on this forum is debilitating, and to be honest I only ever return when I'm feeling like shit about myself for whatever reason
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>>6194457
No
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>>6200568
Akaka is completely out of touch with what it is like to live as a trans women and they post like a redditor. Reddit trans are the worst and they always have boring, feel good, and mostly importantly DELUSIONAL stuff to say
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>>6178266
>I do it because I have to. I simply have no other choice. Well I could kill myself. I will wait a bit longer for that though.

ohhoohhooh kill yourself

I bet you never tried
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>>6175539
> How does your hair fall in a grocery store when you reach for item?

it's so fucking deep
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>>6201427
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