For anyone who thinks they're to ugly or whatever, this is me before and after transitioning. Seriously senpai just fuckin do it. whatever 'it' is.
>>6123753
so the one with long hair is the before and the fattie on the right is after?
You're still uggo btw.
My grammar is poor but the message is rich senpai.
>>6123765
The fattie is before. I'd say it's an improvement at least.
I mean I guess you went from an unfuckable uggo to a barely passing hon that can be used as a cocksleeve for some beta.
Improvement?
>>6123791
Awh come now, I'm not that bad.
>>6123783
>meme'd ya
>>6123805
you almost pass, but you still look like a typical nerdy beta guy.
>>6123825
Good meme, I like it. It just needs a caption or something.
>>6123791
Don't listen to this faggot, anon. You're not that bad, and I bet your personality is wonderful.
>>6123828
Is it just cuz of the short hair? Or the lack of makeup?
>>6123838
I guess if you like constant references to everything and talking about problems then yeah, A+ in that department.
>>6123805
This keeps switching between twink femboy and androgynous tomboy in my head
>>6123841
short hair doesn't help, but your facial features are still quite guyish
>>6123885
I don't think this is true. It seems like a lot of the trans girls on here have such a set idea of what they want to look like that they don't see how varied women's faces are. You look 100% passable and very beautiful, OP.
GET OUT NOW YOU'RE TOO PURE FOR THIS BOARD
>>6123885
I think my body makes up for it. Noticeable tits and a grippy ass.
Kinda old but nothing really changed besides the hair.
>>6123911
Lel no way, huge hands, sounds like a guy. I can't.
I always found it interesting how opposite transitioning is.
The Chads obviously become hons, but the fat beta nerds seem to have the best transitions.
>>6123930
Doesn't obesity decrease testosterone flow or something? Idk.
>>6123963
Increases estrogen.
>>6123805
Those blackheads, everywhere ... and all the rashes
>>6123976
There ya go. I'd say that's the reason.
This is my latest attempt at trying to be girly. Other than the yellowey teeth I thought it wasn't bad.
>>6123989
How do I fix those?
>>6123995
no. you look very visibly trans. That brow...
I like how OP made this thread to inspire people but it immediately degenerated into the opposite
>>6123995
>the chad who become hon
>>6124014
I guess I got swept up by the critiques :/
I think I look decent. I think anyone can look decent with a little elbow grease.
>>6124040
You look nice. People on this board are too critical. It's easier for them to shit on your looks than to deal with their own fears about transitioning.
You look lovely, OP, and I think that it is inspiring.
>>6124002
You don't. Too much T and junk food has turned your nose into Swiss Cheese for the rest of your life. You can minimize it but you'll always have pore problems.
>>6124131
Oui, I guess it's a flaw I can live with. Or cover up. But I'm content with that. Guys don't seem to care.
>>6124126
Well thanks, to you and everyone else who has complemented me.
Whatever makes you feel comfortable at the end of the day.
But guys! Seriously transition. Do it now or you'll regret it. Take that first step. I regret even waiting till 16. It's never too early.
>>6123930
>The Chads obviously become hons, but the fat beta nerds seem to have the best transitions.
like this?
>>6124178
I'm 19 now. I didn't start hormones till 18, even though I was out at 16. I'm just sayin that's when I started this journey.
>>6123753
For anyone who thinks they're too ugly or whatever, you're absolutely right, i'm the same before and after transitioning. Seriously senpai if you don't pass before whoremoans you already fucked up.
>>6124202
Do you actually think you're ugly? I think you're pretty. I bet every person I know would agree too babe.
>>6123915
would snuggle/10
>>6124215
I think i'm so ugly that i can't even take transitioning seriously anymore, it's like a bad joke that got out of hand and turned into a huge trainwreck and to present female i have to be on several levels of irony not to cringe the fuck out.
>>6124202
Get better at make up. You probably already pass with out it anyway.
>>6123930
Chads don't always become hons sometimes they look way better than the fat nerd ones when their bone structure is softened
>>6124228
youre def being too hard on yourself. work on growing out your hair and work on makeup. you're definitely on the right track.
>>6124193
people who are on here are usually starting too late, not too early.
>>6124228
How can you say that? You're beautiful. Would fuck. Anytime.
Seriously you're not cringey at all. There isn't such thing as a cringey trans woman. But you gotta believe that. Or else it just seems like nonsense.
You could be fat, or be 45 pre transition. Those are problems. You're fine~<3
>>6124247
There are people transitioning at all ages. One time I saw a documentary on a sixty year old in transition. She didn't look half bad, either. You can do this at literally any time, and still look like girl.
For anyone who thinks they're to ugly or whatever, this is me before and after transitioning. Seriously senpai just fuckin do it. whatever 'it' is.
>>6124284
I should've said after and before. I kinda fucked it up my dude
>>6124260
>There isn't such thing as a cringey trans woman
What. The fuck.
Literally, unless you're some sort of sick fetishist chaser (and i'm not implying you are) you can definitely see cringy ass transgirls trying to look female when all they do is look like silly gay guys.
Not saying all of them are, Cornflakes passes perfectly, some other less notable ones do too but a lot of cringy transwomen are out there and god are they disgusting
If you're gonna hugbox then do it right so i feel better about myself and not that i feel stupid reading that "no cringy transwomen exist" shit.
>>6123805
You are beautiful, omg! Thread those brows, girl. But yeah. Even with short hair, gorgeous. Love your eyes,
>>6124340
relax and take the compliments
>>6124340
What's your voice like? Just as long as it isn't autistically masculine
>>6124340
Okay, okay. Maybe I'm being a little too fuzzy there. Not everyone is built to be trans. You're right. But you can still make the best of what you have. Kristen beck for example. She looks pretty good despite being a navy SEAL for twenty years.
Also I'm not a fetishist lol, I'm only interested in mostly vanilla dudes.
>>6124353
Thanks! Yeah they're long overdue for some plucking.
>>6124382
It's like surly lesbian, or kinda regular beta male.
I will never understand why a person would willingly post their face on this website. Why would you shed the sweet velvet mask of anonymity?
>>6124409
Not saying they're gross though. It'd just improve your appearance. Do you want to be friends? I'll ward off all the buttfaces and we can be sugoi af.
>>6124377
o-okay
>>6124382
I was bullied in middle school for having a girly voice, after puberty it altered it a bit but not much so it should be okay, though i don't have a mic in my webcam to properly check it.
>>6124400
Well she doesn't really look all that great but i get your point, but still, i gotta complain about my face until it gets good so i can complain about my wide as fuck ribcage next, i just have so much self-hate and disgust i need to let it out sometimes.
>>6124421
Because I don't really care for the most part. There are all kinds of buttface people out there in a bunch of communities I am in, 4chan isn't special in that department. Not going to live afraid of what people think of how I look.
>>6124427
I think you should focus on what you like about yourself and accentuate those things.
>>6124427
focus on dealing with your self-hate more and your body less. as you transition you'll find that what you're saying rn is completely true: your dysphoria will move around. Dealing with your self-loathing now will save you years of grief.
>>6124430
I've been seeing you in a lot of threads today and you seem really sweet. hope you're well
Are you trying to pass FtM or MtF? Guy version looks young but a lot less ugly.
>>6124423
Sure, I'm game for friends.
If you gotta kik hmu.
HeartlessAutomaton is my username.
That goes for anyone else too.
>>6124421
Im not afraid of the potential hazards. I stopped caring awhile ago about that stuff.
>>6124427
It's okay. I used to be really obsessed with my weight, or my cleft chin, or brow line. It's just not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things. If someone thinks you're cute you prolly are.
>>6124430
I'd never want the things I post/browse sent to my employer or loved ones. I try to cover my tracks. I thought everybody was like that. Maybe I'm paranoid.
But I guess I understand - nothing to hide, nothing to fear. Good for you.
>>6124443
Meh, only thing i liked about myself was my confidence on my third suicide attempt and i think i should definitely accentuate in that area
But jokes (or not) aside, thank you anyways, you look very cute and sound like a nice person
>>6124448
But shiet, isn't that how people end up as hons? My dysphoria is already all over the place and you're telling me it will literally never end? There will be no such time where i look at myself and see myself without disgust? What's even the point then? Should've stayed a guy then if it still means i have to learn to come to terms with this stuff
>>6124458
I'm a chick now. Or at least a try hard femmeboy.
>>6123753
You are cute but you look like a bird.
>>6124486
Can't tell what you started off as. Go third gender or some shit like that, you have the looks to do it.
>>6124454
Oh, wow, that's really sweet! Thank you so much. Totally made me smile. <3 I hope you are, too!
>>6124475
I'm not posting harmful shit.
If I was I'd be taking more precautions.
I'm just trying to help the community out.
>>6124475
Oh, I hope I didn't sound assuming. I just meant it hurts more when it's like a community I am a part of. I am a member of the gyaru fashion community, and unfortunately there are a lot of people who post very unkind things about fellow members. That makes me really sad. Nothing wrong with preserving your anonymity! <3 <3 <3 Doesn't make someone any better or worse. :)
>>6124499
I don't want to be a tumblr feg. I have some standards to adhere to. thinkin about going the soldier route once they start taking trannies, but I can't be too much of a faggot, feel me?
>>6124480
I'm really sorry you're having troubles. I understand in my own way. I know this probably doesn't help, but I think you look cute. Honestly, uhm... I'm sure you look great even without makeup. <3 But yeah, with practice, you'll feel really comfortable and more confident in your makeup skills. Art on your face. And thank you for being kind. If you need any help or support, I'm here, okay? :)
>>6124537
Haha, okay. Best wishes.
>>6124508
>>6124507
You both seem friendly and chill. No reason for anybody to harass you. Still... I've seen some things.
Besides, being anon is comfy.
>>6124567
It can be, especially somewhere like the deepweb. Otherwise it seems pointless to me.
>>6123753
If you can dream it, you can do it!
>>6123753
>Putting the before picture after the after picture
Why though?
>>6123930
>opposite
It's not opposite, all of it is on one sensible spectrum from extreme feminine to extreme masculine. Fat beta nerds are more feminine / less masculine than chads so when you both the same distance in the feminine direction the fat beta nerds land on qt 3.14 territory while the chads land in still masculine hon zone.
>>6124766
>>6124787
True, I guess I mean opposite in terms of success/QOL
>>6124787
I'd say it depends if the Chad is good looking solely because of good bone structure or he is also very masculine.
>>6124202
you'd pass better without the fucking corpse paint on love
>>6123753
It's kind of hard not to think that when chris-chan looks better than you.
>>6124284
I knew bjork was a beautiful trans.
>>6124188
where is the chad? I don't see any...
>>6124228
maybe we can't tell in that pic, but you look fine. you shouldn't aim for the absolute best looking female when very few cis women get there.
>>6124377
what's the point of a compliment when you can't help but feel it's a general comment instead of anything related to you? that other post was really shitty at complimenting anything besides being alive.
>>6124480
>and you're telling me it will literally never end?
where did you read that? anon was telling you to deal with your other issues because transitioning or not won't fix paralel problems like low selfesteem or dismorphia. You need counseling for those.
>>6124480
yes, obviously you still have to come to terms with this stuff. it's different after you transition, but you still have to deal with being trans. talk to your fucking therapist about this.
not hating yourself won't make you a hon. but, honestly, i don't understand why this board hates hons so much. so they don't measure up to your fantastical, impossible standards of feminine beauty. at least they're fucking happy and supportive.
What did you do to lose the weight? I wanna lose my fat too :c
>>6124766
It was hastily thrown together on a smart phone.
>>6126158
I starved myself for a few months.500-700 calories a day.
>in b4 that's unhealthy
It wasn't. I suffered no I'll side effects according to my doctor. And I lost like 70 pounds in three months.
I did 'it' and I'm 7 months in and basically just look younger. How long should I wait before I know I'm completely past any hope and only FFS will save my sorry ass?
>>6126745
Younger can work to your advantage. That becomes more apparent as you age. I'm sure you look fine. If you want, offer up a picture, I don't mind paying complements :^)
>>6123753
What if I'm too handsome to transition?
>>6126789
Then don't transition? Duuh.
>>6126789
That doesn't stop anyone. If it's something that feels like a necessity it won't stop you.Especially if you don't think you can live without doing it. Take that over death.
Some changes are spectacular. But for the most part is it just weight loss.
>>6126802
Seems legit
>>6126802
you forgot that part about FFS :^)
>>6123838
Trust me, she doesn't
>>6126776
Err, I don't think so. I've posted my pic before and I know I don't pass. I'll give it some more time.
>>6123753
You weren't ugly, just fat, with pretty feminine bones.
Check ur privilege
>>6126908
Thanks for saying so~
It was still a lot of work trying to slim down. But I was plug-ugly at one point
(Me before hormones trying to pass as a girl
>>6124202
you look perfectly fine and cute you fucking whore
>>6127320
I thought they were enlarged pores.
Also, go figure. I really don't mind em desu.
>>6123995
crispin glover in drag as olivia newton john
>>6127453
Actually not an inaccurate comparison.
They're a tad bit older than how I think I look in that pic tho,
>>6124202
Uh, for someone who fucking loves the dark semi-goth look I'm quite happy with the way you look. 9/10 would make wifu just by your face alone.
>>6126741
>tfw starving self for 3 months and somehow not losing weight.
I don't know how I'm fucking this up when I eat things come in 1 serving size and say directly on the back that they are x many calories. fucking body man.
>implying you were ugly
pic related.
>>6130253
it's not luck. It's early transition. Brow doesn't develop till mid-late male puberty/
>>6129970
Jesus this kid ended up beautiful as fuck. Literally way hotter than 90% of cisgirls.
>>6130258
How do you tell if you have a prominent brow? It sounds like a dumb question, but I didn't even know it was a thing til 2 weeks ago - running my fingers across my forehead, I don't feel very much.
>>6130161
Are you staying hydrated? Are the foods you eat high in fiber and nutritional value? Those are essential.
>>6130593
You can kinda just see it when you look at yourself from the side. If your brow juts out there's your answer.
>>6130237
I think you'd be a cute lady. No lie :^)
>>6123805
Looks like a femboy tbhq.
>>6130746
>Looks like a femboy tbhq.
Came here to say this. Would fug, but in a homo way.
>>6123930
who like
reads this?
>>6130746
It's a start. Femmeboys can make pretty cute ladies wouldn't you say?
>>6126041
Because most of the people who post here area bunch of myopic and misanthropeic shitstains whose only escape from their own self hatred is to redirect it at others.
>>6123753
Qt would bang
>>6123753
>transitioning
Strange word to use when you just let your hair grow.
>>6132709
I was on hormones for like five months at that point. I had also change my name legally.
>tfw look androgynous/baby faced
>get on hrt
>does absolutely fucking nothing
>still don't pass
>2+ years and still same as before
thought I got lucky, instead it was just a sick joke that nature decided to play on me
fuck everything
>>6133715
Did you ever get your levels checked? Did it at least reduce muscle and everything?
>>6133745
my levels are fine, i don't know about muscle mass, maybe, i gave up on trying to be female anyway
clearly my body doesn't like estrogen
i fucking hate those timelines where people change so much and im just the fucking same
>>6133760
Did any fat deposit in your face? Were you older when you started?
>>6133767
>Did any fat deposit in your face?
nope
also i started at 22, probably too late
>>6126802
you would have been the honliest without ffs.
guess you make a good advertisement for bart.
>>6133775
You didn't even grow breasts? That's really strange. What drugs were you on?
>>6133791
nah i got ugly tranny boobs like every other tranny
also the usual drugs, 4mg estrofem 50mg cypro
>>6133802
I'm on 200mg spiro, maybe it's the AA you are on? idk if cypro is more potent than spiro or something.
This is starting to scare me as someone only 2months in that -also- has a baby face.
>>6133775
Have you considered things like dermal fillers or facial fat transplants? That stuff is a lot cheaper than FFS, especially dermal fillers, so if your main issue is lack of fat deposits that can really help you.
>>6124202
Don't listen to the hugboxers, you look like shit
>>6133826
its never to late to start my dude.
Also I'm sure you look fine~
>>6123753
You want from fun guy who probably was fun at parties, to something that is still a guy but wants to be a girl?!?! You will never be a girl, you cant transition, you cant have periods, or menopause, the correct hormones.... If someone says "i feel like i should of been born an amputee"...you don't go chopping off their legs...you treat their mental disorder...
>>6123753
>>6123805
>>6123930
>>6123995
>>6124188
>>6124202
>>6124400
>>6126802
>>6129965
>>6129970
Still got XY chromosomes and are male.....pretending to act like what you THINK a female is does not make you female by anyones standards except gay guys who just want to fuck dudes anyway...Your chromosomes are still XY
>>6134105
Please don't. don't listen to naysayers. I bet you're beautiful in your own way.
>>6134057
Also my dude. The treatment is validating their gender identity. In the overwhelming majority of cases this works.For a lot of us it's either that or death....do you just want us dead? Like honest question.
>>6134327
Most people don't care or even support your death
>>6134336
Which is honestly how it should be. People should just not give a fuck about it. I don't want advocacy I just want people to let me live my life ya know? Most trans people are like everyone else.
>>6134382
It would be okey if this "people" would be totaly isolated from normals. Atleast some trans people want to date "cis-people". So its a problem if they don't tell them immediately or better wear a symbol ( just like the jews in germany in 1933), so that everybody can discriminate against thhem
>>6134620
I'm not him. But I can tell you I just hate trans as I hate everything degenerate. Your argument is pretty low. "Anybody who doesn't support lgbt-rights, is a closed-fag" Yes, it might be true that some repress it. But we should honor them, becasue they repress this degenerate behaviour, even if they could have it easier your way
>>6124202
Michael Cera quit fucking playing around
>>6134663
Let's be real. No good argument comes out of an image board. We're just ducking around here and expressing opinions.
>>6134714
I know. Everybody just tries to find his echochamber and trigger others with different opinions
>>6134725
200mg sprionolactone and 8mg estradiol. Works wonders for me.
Maybe talk to your doc about switching?
>>6134760
i'll just have my balls cut off and be done with AA altogether
>>6134771
There's also lupron depot or the zolodex implant
>>6134771
I've thought about doing that so many times. But then I remember I'll botch it and die of blood loss :)
>>6134781
>lupron
well since i am an old man (24) my endo told me my insurance just won't cover it
>>6134725
>cypro can act as an agonist on the androgen receptor
what does that mean? also source?
I'm mtf male to faggot/failure. You can do it too! :D
>>6135077
>tfw failed transition
>just call myself a femboy now
Thank fuck I chose a unisex name.
>>6135094
So what exactly defines a failed transition? I need some examples.
>>6134396
>>6135118
>be on hormones 2 years
>still look like a dude with long hair
>whenever I presented female I got misgendered like crazy, couldn't deal with it so just went back intothe closet
>at least when I'm misgendered I'm expecting it
That's how you fail. Ffs cannot save me.
>>6135273
You really went back into the closet? Sounds incredibly rough. I'm so sorry. Like no joke. Id say cosmetic surgery but that shits expensive. You continuing hormones? Or did you just stop everything altogether?
>>6135299
I'm still on hormones. I only detransitioned into a femboy. I have considered FFS but I'm a broke as shit and don't know how much it can do.
Anyway it's a weird place to be, wish I could present female and be stealth but being a girly looking guy is better then being a full blown man I guess.
>>6135343
I'm thinking with age it'll become more apparent that you are on hormones, and you'll eventually be able to go steatlh.
I mean you can still wear makeup and dress however you want. Why not? I mean if you have to be a guy, be the prettiest fuckin man out there.
If you need some emotional support you can kik me; HeartlessAutomaton is my username.
That goes for anyone too :^)
>>6136653
What was forehead like? Just reading about it gets me sick.
>>6136669
Pretty bad tbqh.
>>6130237
Literally perfect skin
